run like this for a few minutes and then stop for a about 70 seconds to reheat. This unit is mounted in my roof top gargoyle and only runs when I can keep an eye on it. I would hold my judgement on the quality of this machine for a couple more weeks of running. The heater seems to be the same type used in most machines but the pump while better than some, is certainly not the quality you would find in a model like the VEI-925 costing only $50.00 more. As most of you can imagine, running in continuous 5 second cycles puts a heavy start-up load on the pump and relay, let's wait and see how it holds up to my abuse. Denny TX 10-16, 2:29PM From owner-halloween-l Wed Oct 18 08:18:15 1995 Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 08:11:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Bertino To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Flying Ghosts Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 16 Oct 1995, R. Bradvica wrote: Hi Robert! > >> I just wanted to say my flying ghost system based on Scott's detailed > >> description posted to this list works great and is THE traffic stopper > >> around here. The foam skeleton/ghost is painted lightly with > >> luminescent paint available from Theatre Effects (Nathan Kahn). At > >> night he's lit up by 2 black light fixtures. > >> Denny > > Does anyone have the original "Flying Ghost" message? I would appreciate it > if you could forward it to me. Yes! Check out http://www.crl.com/~bertino under halloween-l archives "Outdoor ghost" thread. BTW, I have all the images and links to other home pages online. Everyone try it and let me know! ;) don bertino@netcom.com ____/^\_____________________________________ Disney ascii art & / \ || FDC MCP || / \ animations are at <______\ [] [] [] || [] [] [] || [] [] [] /______> ftp.netcom.com ======\----------------||----------||----------------/=== /pub/be/bertino========\______________||__________||______________/===== From owner-halloween-l Wed Oct 18 09:18:12 1995 Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 09:07:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Bertino To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Need help with Yahoo listing Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Hi all! Since we now have a web site, I am going to add a entry into the yahoo server. I need some help with of the options to be set. First of all, which location. As I understand it: SOCIETY AND CULTURE:HOLIDAYS:HALLOWEEN seems to be the best. You can cross ref. it to other directories, so what are your ideas?? A title... ;) The list is alpha sorted so "A halloween decorating mailing list archive" would be sorted to near the top. ;) What do you thing? ;) And a 3 to 8 line description about what we are all about..... So please, give me your ideas and I get it loaded as soon as I can. BTW, the yahoo server is http://www.yahoo.com don bertino@netcom.com ____/^\_____________________________________ Disney ascii art & / \ || FDC MCP || / \ animations are at <______\ [] [] [] || [] [] [] || [] [] [] /______> ftp.netcom.com ======\----------------||----------||----------------/=== /pub/be/bertino========\______________||__________||______________/===== From owner-halloween-l Wed Oct 18 09:40:36 1995 Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 20:53:23 -0700 From: bobbyr@ix.netcom.com (Bobby Rosenberger) Subject: Re: Blacklight bulbs To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: RO X-Status: >I hope some of you have found this message interesting . . . > >Regards, > >Nathan >nathan@theatrefx.com I found that very interesting! Thanks Nathan! For the past two years I've been trying differnt kinds of 'bulb' blacklights and have been very dissappointed! I could have sworn that when I was little a burnout teenager across the street had a bulb that made flourecent colors brilliant. I guess I had never seen ANY kind of blacklight before so it SEEMED brilliant. So.. I've been buying a couple bulb blacklights every time I see a new brand hoping that the others were just made by crappy manufacturers... but it was never the case! All BULB black lights I've seen (and I've seen my share) do next to NOTHING! As a matter of fact, if you have a *real* 4ft tube blacklight and turn on a blacklight bulb it will ruin some of the effect of the other! Geez! When I was at Disney a month or so ago for the kite festival I noticed they used the 4ft tubes in all of their displays and achieved the effect I had been looking for. So I called a lighting place here in town (St. Louis) and asked if they carried them... They did, but they wanted $50 a tube for them!! The cheapest I found in town (at lighting places) was $35 a tube (they were GE)- so I bought two. Then... I walk into Spencers yesterday and a sign hanging over a stack of the same GE tubes said $24.95 a tube!! I went over and picked one up only to notice a sticker that said 'Was 24.95 now 19.95'!!! AAHH! So I bought four more and my whole basement is lit with glowing blacklight tubes. Flourecent colors jump out at you, your teeth glow an eerie white... Oh, on a side note... flourecent monofiliment (fishing string) looks VEEERRRY COOL under blacklight tubes! Anyway, the moral of the story is this... don't buy the bulb type blacklights unless you just like the purple glow for mood lighting... for blacklight effects, they stink (IMHO). If you want blacklight effects definately go with the 4ft tubes, they are more expensive, but you won't be dissappointed... Oh, yeah, and shop around for a good price! Sorry if I babbled. Bobby R. From owner-halloween-l Wed Oct 18 19:46:31 1995 From: Stuart_McIntire_at_AISDC@ccsmtp.uage.com Date: Wed, 18 Oct 95 17:08:21 EST To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Obtanium (Love That Word) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: A few sources: Heathkit (Do they still exist?) Heathkit used to sell easy-to-build electronics kits, many of which could be adapted by us Halloweenphiles. If they're still around, does anyone know where they are or how to get a cat- alog? If not, has anyone else filled the void? Radio Shack hasn't really cut it for me. Their salespeople had no idea what I was talking about when I inquired about color organs. Any good used book store I frequent a hole-in-the-wall used book store where I've picked up a good stage magician book, a good chemistry experiment book (many ideas specifically for Halloween) and Penn & Teller's How To Play With Your Food in recent weeks. The P&T book was even an autographed copy! It has a number inside the cover which may or may not mean that the autographed copies were a limited set. Can anyone confirm or deny? Libraries are also a good source, but to find *old* books, try to find a used book store that consistently carries a wide variety of subjects and titles. Consignment shops/Salvation Army stores. Perfect for old clothes that you can turn into costumes. Military Surplus stores I plan to go look for camouflage netting. The Spencer's that I work at is using camouflage netting as backdrops for the displays. It looks great, and I never would have thought to use it for my scenery. Spencer's does not sell it and I think the manager would look unkindly upon my tearing it down for my own use. :( - Stu [ stuart.mcintire@uage.com ] From owner-halloween-l Wed Oct 18 22:15:51 1995 From: TheLazer@aol.com Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 10:27:17 -0400 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: haunted houses Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Try calling up your local magic shop, they do sell such things. Of course it will cost you a REALLY NICE PRICE {HA Ha HAAA} They might tell you how to build your own, but I doubt it. Or, just try to make one that doesnt really move, just looks like it is going to. You could make the people think that your going to kill the person in just a moment, then buld it up and turn off the lights, just as the guy goes to relese the lever on it. As the lights go off, play a sound of metle scraping metel and have someone scream, then just get the people to move to the next room. Jay From owner-halloween-l Wed Oct 18 22:23:57 1995 Date: Sun, 15 Oct 1995 20:33:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Deborah Tarsiewicz - 3528981 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Blood Dripping Candles Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: On Fri, 13 Oct 1995, Fred Giuffrida wrote: > Just though those of you who made helpful suggestion about how to make > candles that appear to be dripping blood might be interested in my solution. > On the off chance that some one will find this helpful I thought I might mention that I found "hand" candles at my local Pic n Save (So. California) Some were flesh-colored, the others green. The cores were made from red wax so that when burned the fingers appeared to be dripping blood. I lit the green one I bought earlier and was pretty happy with the results. Thanks for reading! Deborah Tarsiewicz dtarsiew@nunic.nu.edu From owner-halloween-l Wed Oct 18 22:23:34 1995 Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 02:07:07 -0700 (PDT) From: "D.J. Johnson" To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: haunted houses Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: On Sat, 14 Oct 1995, R. Bradvica wrote: > It was actually a "working" guillotine. A person was placed in it, the > blade dropped, and the blade triggered some mechanism that dropped the > persons entire body, but when viewed from the front evrything was so quick > that it looked like only the head dropped. Probably my alltime favorite > hainted house effect. And a long time staple of Alice Cooper's stage show, I might add. Very convincing effect. Even better if you get a dummy severed head with fake blood around the neck and put it in a basket below for the "executioner" to pull out. I guess it's that's a matter of taste (or lack thereof). From owner-halloween-l Wed Oct 18 22:29:57 1995 Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 09:25:41 -0700 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: rrhill@ucdavis.edu (Rick Hill) Subject: RE: Fog Machine building questions Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Me too!!! >X-POP3-Rcpt: szmagic@peseta >Date: Thu, 12 Oct 95 18:12 PDT >Mime-Version: 1.0 >To: halloween-l@netcom.com >From: rbradvica@covina.lightside.com (R. Bradvica) >Subject: RE: Fog Machine building questions >Sender: owner-halloween-l@netcom.com >Precedence: list >Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com > >if anyone still has the original message with the direction on how to build >the fog machine i would appreciate it if you could forward it to me. > >thanks >robert > Rick Hill (916) 757-3002 Office Computer Operations Manager (916) 757-3010 FAX UCD Bookstore rrhill@ucdavis.edu UC Davis http://www-bookstore.ucdavis.edu Davis, CA 95616 From owner-halloween-l Thu Oct 19 01:36:31 1995 From: RoboJay@aol.com Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 19:32:26 -0400 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Cheap Skull Effect Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: In a message dated 95-10-16 14:09:38 EDT, Brian Oberquel (bdosfx@wimsey.coml) wrote: >I got one of the red LED buttons to use with a skull I picked up at San >Francisco ($3.99). I extended the LEDs by attaching longer wires (be >careful, this requires fairly skillful soldering 'cause it's a small >circuit board!) and put the LEDs in the eye sockets. The wires ran through >the skull to a hole already in the bottom, and after I reattached the wires >to the circuit board I then hot-glued the button case to the base of the >skull in such a way that I can open it to replace the batteries as needed. >The case is hidden under the skull, and I now have a flashing-eyed skull >for under $10. > >Cheap but effective... > This reminds me of an amusing anecdote that I read in Sam Levenson's autobiography "Everything But Money." (I highly recommend it to anybody - it's funny as all-get-out!) One of Sam's brothers goes to Medical School, where he acquires a human skull. In order to frighten away burglars, the other brothers put a lit candle in it. It works - one prowler does get in, but leaves his tools behind. From owner-halloween-l Thu Oct 19 14:25:33 1995 From: "BHendrsn@kirk.microsys.net" To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 16:49:23 +0000 Subject: Fake Metal Fences Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: I was wondering if someone knew of an economical way to make light-weight lookalikes of the classic haunted house steel fences that you always see. I wanted to use some in my back yard but they are both too expensive and too heavy (they have to be carried through the house) to purchase and just weather them. Any help would be appreciated. -Brian From owner-halloween-l Thu Oct 19 20:11:54 1995 Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 19:12:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Bertino To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: your mail Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 16 Oct 1995 Gary_Calub_at_AISDC@ccsmtp.uage.com wrote: > UNSUBSCRIBE HALLOWEEN-L GARY.CALUB@UAGE.COM Hi Gary, Please, everyone, do not send unsubscribe message to the list. To unsubscribe, send mail to listserv@netcom.com with: unsubscribe halloween-l in the body. don bertino@netcom.com ____/^\_____________________________________ Disney ascii art & / \ || FDC MCP || / \ animations are at <______\ [] [] [] || [] [] [] || [] [] [] /______> ftp.netcom.com ======\----------------||----------||----------------/=== /pub/be/bertino========\______________||__________||______________/===== From owner-halloween-l Sat Oct 21 02:11:22 1995 Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 05:55:41 -0700 From: milwiron@ix.netcom.com (D.D. ) Subject: Re: Flying Ghosts To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: You wrote: >Does anyone have the original "Flying Ghost" message? I would appreciate it >if you could forward it to me. Hi Robert, You'll find all the old posts in Don Bertino's new web site he just announced at . I no linger have the original post, so I hope this helps. Denny From owner-halloween-l Sat Oct 21 02:21:18 1995 Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 10:59:56 -0700 From: milwiron@ix.netcom.com (D.D. ) Subject: RE: Haunted houses To: Halloween-L@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Here are a couple more haunted house effects- One of the local haunted houses put on by the Jaycees has one section of floor has been raised 6 inches or so by building ramps. At one point in the raised section you have to walk over a large nest of live rats. They've built a rat cage into the floor and covered it with a couple pieces of thick Plexiglas or polycarb. The cage then has it's own terrarium type lighting and vents in the sides, hidden from view. A lot of people have trouble walking so close to a bunch of rats. The rats, which look like someone's pets, are completely oblivious to what's going on over them and just go about their normal old rat business, eating, drinking, sleeping... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- For very realistic but fairly safe barbed wire... Get a roll of solid core, low or no-lead content, soft plumbing solder at the hardware store and cut a bunch of it into 1 to 1 1/4 inch lengths. Round off any sharp edges or points with a small file from these pieces just cut. Use a piece of iron lashing wire for the main stringing wire and wrap the small pieces of solder around it, every 6 inches or so. The barbs can be super glued in place to help keep them from moving too easily. This looks exactly like real barbed wire but using soft solder keeps it from forming an edge. Denny Sent 10-18, 12:56PM From owner-halloween-l Sat Oct 21 02:24:21 1995 Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 21:16:45 +0000 From: Andrew Jones Subject: Re: WWW site To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: > From: Don Bertino > Subject: WWW site > I finally have put the halloween-l archives on a www site. > > http://www.crl.com/~bertino It would be *very* helpful if this site is mentioned in the message users get when subscribing to Halloween-l. --------------------------------------------------------- "Don't hate the media. Become the media." -Jello Biafra Andrew I. Jones - aij1@axe.humboldt.edu From owner-halloween-l Sat Oct 21 02:27:51 1995 Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 22:15:10 -0700 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: fishcat@hooked.net (Trystan L. Bass) Subject: Re: Obtanium (Love That Word) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: > Military Surplus stores > I plan to go look for camouflage netting. The > Spencer's that I work at is using camouflage > netting as backdrops for the displays. It > looks great, and I never would have thought > to use it for my scenery. Although I thot of this too late for this year, you can get really cool theatrical netting, scrims, and sheers from large theatrical supply stores. This can be draped & hung from ceilings/walls for exotic & creepy interiors. Can use lights behind it for really neat effects. For mailorder, check out Rosebrand Theatrical Supplies in NY, call (800) 223-1624 for a free catalog. It is a little pricier than getting cheap stuff from the fabric store, but you're paying for quality, heavy-duty materials that can last thru years of partying. Plus, the effects will be more prominent than when using flimsy stuff. --Trystan (T minus 8 days and counting!!!) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Trystan L. Bass fishcat@hooked.net Executive Producer FamousDead@aol.com Famous Dead Person's Ball http://www.hooked.net/users/fishcat/fdpb4.html From owner-halloween-l Sat Oct 21 11:31:44 1995 Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 15:08:45 MDT From: BEDLAM To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Jester costume. Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Please help me...we have looked everywhere for a fabric pattern for a court jesters hat...we cannot find one anywhere. I want one with at least four thingys? on top. If ANYONE could tell me where I can buy one or maybe even e-mail a copy/scan of one I would greatly appreciate it...thanx.. Mike From owner-halloween-l Sat Oct 21 11:35:43 1995 Date: Wed, 18 Oct 95 09:17:46 CDT To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: cunard@sp.ncook.k12.il.us (Carol Cunard) Subject: flying ghost Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: I saw Denny's message about the "Flying Ghost" and it sounds very interesting. I just joined this listserve and was hoping someone could forward the original "Flying Ghost" message? I would appreciate it. Thanks! Carol Cunard cunard@sp.ncook.k12.il.us From owner-halloween-l Sat Oct 21 11:36:59 1995 From: Stuart_McIntire_at_AISDC@ccsmtp.uage.com Date: Wed, 18 Oct 95 13:01:41 EST To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re[2]: Flying Ghosts Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Flying Ghosts Author: halloween-l@netcom.com at Internet Date: 10/18/95 11:57 AM On Mon, 16 Oct 1995, R. Bradvica wrote: << cut, cut, snip, snip, rip, tear, rend >> >Yes! Check out http://www.crl.com/~bertino under halloween-l archives >"Outdoor ghost" thread. >BTW, I have all the images and links to other home pages online. Everyone >try it and let me know! ;) Hi, Don! Geez, if I didn't have bad luck, I wouldn't have any luck at all! I can access the URL, but when I click on the file I want, I get the following message: "ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/be/bertino/ halloween/halloween.music" could not be retrieved. The FTP Log contains a script of the session. I can retrieve *some* of the files using TCP/IP, but not all. The ones I can receive don't seem to have been updated recently, but that could be due to time restraints on your part - I don't know. - Stu [ stuart.mcintire@uage.com ] don bertino@netcom.com ____/^\_____________________________________ Disney ascii art & / \ || FDC MCP || / \ animations are at <______\ [] [] [] || [] [] [] || [] [] [] /______> ftp.netcom.com ======\----------------||----------||----------------/=== /pub/be/bertino========\______________||__________||______________/===== From owner-halloween-l Sat Oct 21 11:38:30 1995 From: Michelle Winters (Volt Temp) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Wed, 18 Oct 95 13:30:06 PDT Subject: RE: Need help with Yahoo listing Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: well, I believe there is a classification for mailing lists and/or archives thereof. seems like a good idea... ---------- From: Don Bertino To: Subject: Need help with Yahoo listing Date: Wednesday, October 18, 1995 9:07AM Hi all! Since we now have a web site, I am going to add a entry into the yahoo server. I need some help with of the options to be set. First of all, which location. As I understand it: SOCIETY AND CULTURE:HOLIDAYS:HALLOWEEN seems to be the best. You can cross ref. it to other directories, so what are your ideas?? A title... ;) The list is alpha sorted so "A halloween decorating mailing list archive" would be sorted to near the top. ;) What do you thing? ;) And a 3 to 8 line description about what we are all about..... So please, give me your ideas and I get it loaded as soon as I can. BTW, the yahoo server is http://www.yahoo.com don bertino@netcom.com ____/^\_____________________________________ Disney ascii art & / \ || FDC MCP || / \ animations are at <______\ [] [] [] || [] [] [] || [] [] [] /______> ftp.netcom.com ======\----------------||----------||----------------/=== /pub/be/bertino========\______________||__________||______________/===== From owner-halloween-l Sat Oct 21 11:39:33 1995 Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 09:26:00 -0500 From: fl21af8s!fl21af8s!tecke@fl21af8s.attmail.com (!tecke) Subject: goodies To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Over the weekend at Walgreens Drug Store ( I'm not sure if they are just in Florida or not), I saw two of the things people have been asking about on this list. The candles that melt blood- these were in the shape of a right hand, skin colored wax on the exterior and red on the inside. They had one that was half burnt and it looked great. Only 3.99 a hand! They also carry the string of black lights ( the one Spencers has for about 24 bucks) for only 9.99 and the standard socket black lights are only 3.99. Great List !!!! Happy Haunting, Tom ( who would rather be out putting the finishing touches on his mobile ghost) tecke@fl21bfes.attmail.com From owner-halloween-l Sat Oct 21 11:48:25 1995 Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 12:19:37 -0700 From: milwiron@ix.netcom.com (D.D. ) Subject: Mailing list delivery To: support@netcom.com Cc: netmail@netcom.com Cc: Halloween-L@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: >From Reuters' News Agency The U.S. Postal Service has decided to acquire Netcom Incorporated. After deciding that Netcom's delivery of mail to it's own mailing lists was taking too long, the Post Master General announced "the Postal Service could do it faster". He went on to say "heck, we invented the information super highway, it only takes us a couple days to get mail across town, beats the bejeezers out of Netcom and hardly nobody here can read or speak English". On another subject, prompted by the recent rash of Post Office shootings by disgruntled employees, he again warned that "shooting fellow postal workers could lead to a stern reprimand and unscheduled time off with pay". From owner-halloween-l Sat Oct 21 11:50:38 1995 Date: Thu, 19 Oct 95 12:12:30 EDT From: crussell To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Blood Dripping Candles Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: On Fri, 13 Oct 1995, Fred Giuffrida wrote: > Just though those of you who made helpful suggestion about how to make > candles that appear to be dripping blood might be interested in my solution. > = On the off chance that some one will find this helpful I thought I = might mention that I found "hand" candles at my local Pic n Save (So. = California) Some were flesh-colored, the others green. The cores were made = from red wax so that when burned the fingers appeared to be dripping = blood. I lit the green one I bought earlier and was pretty happy with = the results. Thanks for reading! = = Deborah Tarsiewicz dtarsiew@nunic.nu.edu ---Hey, just wanted to add that these bleeding hand candles are also at Caldor (NJ at least) for 4.99. Whaat a baahgin...! -colleen From owner-halloween-l Sat Oct 21 12:06:41 1995 From: TheLazer@aol.com Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 10:41:19 -0400 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: They want F/X's Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Well, had my newest idea set up last night. Laser's shining into a mist of water {Ala Fantasimic/Illumanitons} Worked great, in fact a few cars driving by almost went off the road looking at it, talk about cool spooky effects. Only problem is that, the kids run thur are yard, and short of putting up a chain link fence to stop them, there isnt much I can do about it. So, I cant do the laser effect, it is a small risk, that someone could look into it, just right and be blinded. Really it is like being hit by lighting, it probley wont happen. But I dont want to take the chance, alas, it was a GREAT effect. So, now I am trying to use a slide progecter or something else. Jay From owner-halloween-l Sat Oct 21 12:09:33 1995 From: Stuart_McIntire_at_AISDC@ccsmtp.uage.com Date: Fri, 20 Oct 95 09:01:02 EST To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re[2]: your mail Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 16 Oct 1995 Gary_Calub_at_AISDC@ccsmtp.uage.com wrote: > UNSUBSCRIBE HALLOWEEN-L GARY.CALUB@UAGE.COM >Hi Gary, >Please, everyone, do not send unsubscribe message to the list. To >unsubscribe, send mail to listserv@netcom.com with: >unsubscribe halloween-l >in the body. Hi, Don! Mea Culpa. Gary is a co-worker of mine who subscribed after seeing the results after I subscribed to the list. He de- cided he no longer wanted to see the messages, so I (tried to) unsubscribe him. The next day I realized I'd done it wrong, so I re-did it correctly. Sorry Don. Sorry everyone. - Stu [ stuart.mcintire@uage.com ] don bertino@netcom.com ____/^\_____________________________________ Disney ascii art & / \ || FDC MCP || / \ animations are at <______\ [] [] [] || [] [] [] || [] [] [] /______> ftp.netcom.com ======\----------------||----------||----------------/=== /pub/be/bertino========\______________||__________||______________/===== From owner-halloween-l Sat Oct 21 16:16:59 1995 From: "BHendrsn@kirk.microsys.net" To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 18:03:50 +0000 Subject: I have a question about ratcakes Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: I tried to test out the rat cakes that were suggested here and ran into some problems. When I was pouring the cake mix into the tin foil rat mold, the molds deformed. Has anyone had better luck? Thanks -Brian From owner-halloween-l Sat Oct 21 16:17:54 1995 Date: Fri, 20 Oct 95 19:08 PDT To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: rbradvica@covina.lightside.com (R. Bradvica) Subject: Fog chiller Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: I was looking for more of a low fog effect in a graveyard scene. from what i understand the best way is to cool the fog using a fog chiller. I haven't seen one but they don't sound too difficult to build. although i did have a few questions. First i was wondering if i should use dry ice or if a block of regular ice would be sufficent. Also the chiller that was described to me used a squirrel cage fan at the output port and a hose. Should this fan be switch so that it will not melt the ice when fog is not being blown through. TIA Robert From owner-halloween-l Sun Oct 22 05:21:09 1995 Date: Sat, 21 Oct 1995 16:30:53 -0700 From: milwiron@ix.netcom.com (D.D. ) Subject: Re: I have a question about ratcakes To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: You wrote: >I tried to test out the rat cakes that were suggested here and ran >into some problems. When I was pouring the cake mix into the tin >foil rat mold, the molds deformed. Has anyone had better luck? >Thanks >-Brian Hi Brian, Use a few layers of foil to give it some strength, use additional foil to form legs to hold the molds upright. This has worked for me many times. Denny From owner-halloween-l Sun Oct 22 06:25:33 1995 From: TheLazer@aol.com Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 10:30:17 -0400 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Painting light bulbs Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: RO X-Status: You know I once saw the coolest thing, Blacklight Christmiss tree bulbs, they were about 1 inch big and bright enough so you could see them from a disnctence. I havent seen them since though.? I was just thinking cause, what if you had a set up were it was a "Ghosts Christmiss" The tree could have spider webs and such? Hmm, Have to thing about that Jay -->Getting ready to use the Ol' Theater Magic {Thanks guys} Cob Web Spinner!<-- From owner-halloween-l Sun Oct 22 06:43:59 1995 Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 09:48:05 -0700 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: trix@primenet.com (Darlene Horwath) Subject: Re: WWW Sites Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Hi everyone! Thanks for the plug for my page too! I do have links to some of these pages on Halloween-O-Webbery, but If you find any that are just too great to miss, let me know. I have slowly been incorporating info from this group and putting it out on the page. Next up is a compilation of all the halloween songs that have been suggested. Hopefully I will have it up this week.! Happy haunting to everyone! Trix a/k/a Dar >Well every one needs a great list of SCARRY WWW Pages to scan thru this >close to Halloween dont they? Well while scanning thu my hubbys copy of >"Internet World" (GREAT MAG) and I came across a long list of "Dark" sites >to surf to, they couldnt be as great as Trix's tho, but the're try! If ya >like em just let me know. Also there is one (Dan's Gallery of the >Grotesque) that is your into Gore this is the one for you, also you can get >good ideas on how to "make up" things (such as dummies, people, etc.) cuz >they have pics from the police at accidents and directly for the coroners >office, really SICK but ya gotta see it for yourself!!! =) and now the >list BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA (evil laugh) } : D -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Is that a modem in your pocket or RU just happy 2C me! http://www.primenet.com/~trix/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-halloween-l Sun Oct 22 09:08:19 1995 Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 13:30:57 -0700 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: rrhill@ucdavis.edu (Rick Hill) Subject: Re: Flying Ghosts Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: I missed this post. Could someone forward me the instructions for this effect. >> >> Hi All, >> I just wanted to say my flying ghost system based on Scott's detailed >> description posted to this list works great and is THE traffic stopper >> around here. The foam skeleton/ghost is painted lightly with >> luminescent paint available from Theatre Effects (Nathan Kahn). At >> night he's lit up by 2 black light fixtures. >> Denny >> > >Yes, I keep forgetting that our glow paint and makeup is also highly >fluorescent. > >Nathan >nathan@theatrefx.com Rick Hill (916) 757-3002 Office Computer Operations Manager (916) 757-3010 FAX UCD Bookstore rrhill@ucdavis.edu UC Davis http://www-bookstore.ucdavis.edu Davis, CA 95616 From owner-halloween-l Sun Oct 22 09:10:26 1995 Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 18:11:03 EDT From: AHBR60C@prodigy.com (MISS JESSICA M ROOP) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: WWW site Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Wow, sounds great! I'll be sure to check out the site! --Jessica Roop (AHBR60C) | Love the Lord your God, --- --- with all of your heart, | with all of your soul, | and with all of your strength. - Deuteronomy 6:5 For more information on these following things, please e-mail me: The Ocelot Club & newsletter ALL STICKERS & newsletter From owner-halloween-l Sun Oct 22 09:12:01 1995 Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 11:51:47 -0700 From: milwiron@ix.netcom.com (D.D. ) Subject: RE: List server and delivery times To: Halloween-L@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Has the U.S. Postal Service taken over Netcom? Jes' wondering, Denny Tx 10-20, 1:49PM From owner-halloween-l Tue Oct 24 05:03:03 1995 Date: Mon, 23 Oct 1995 21:17:11 -0700 (PDT) From: bobbyr@ix.netcom.com (Bobby Rosenberger) Subject: Re: Halloween Lighting Effects with X10 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: >Let me tell a little about the setup I've been using for the past several >years. It consists of an X10 CP-290 Computer Interface (approx. $45), >several X10 Lamp Dimmer modules, and a DOS shareware package called XA which >controls the CP-290. XA allows you to write X10 script files for lighting >effects. It also has the capability of reading input from your joystick or >LPT port, as well writing output to your LPT port. XA can "spawn" other DOS >applications where appropriate. Let me describe the setup I used last year. >XA (which I authored) really evolved out of projects for Halloween and >Christmas >lighting effects. If you have a CP-290 and you are looking for ways to >utilize X10, then check out this program. > > ftp://oak.oakland.edu/SimTel/msdos/x_10/x10xa300.zip > >If I need to clarify any of the above, please let me know. > >Regards, >Bruce Christensen Bruce, this sounds very cool! What the heck is an X10 and a CP-290 and where can I get them? You said the X10 ran you about $45 but didn't say how much the CP-290 was... Can you give me a good starter list of items I'll need to do a few simple things? I'm a software developer so the computer part will be easy. Thanks! Bobby R. From owner-halloween-l Tue Oct 24 19:47:29 1995 From: "Dr. Johnny Gills, Jr." To: "'halloween-l@netcom.com'" Subject: pumpkin carving Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 19:47:02 -0500 Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: hi folks, i am looking for some info on halloween pumpkin carving. we are having a little contest on my job and i am looking for some help. is there any help out there? johnny From owner-halloween-l Wed Oct 25 06:41:27 1995 Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 08:17:13 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: cartee@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu (Lewis Cartee) Subject: Re: pumpkin carving Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: >hi folks, > i am looking for some info on halloween pumpkin carving. we are > having a little contest on my job and i am looking for some help. > > is there any help out there? > >johnny Johnny: Take a look at the products by Pumpkin Masters, which are available in South Louisiana in K-Mart, Wal-Mart, and most of the drug stores. PM offers pumpkin carving designs, techniques, and tools that allow even a first-timer to carve a very good jack-o-lantern. Lewis From owner-halloween-l Wed Oct 25 10:23:31 1995 Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 10:14:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Bertino To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: WWW site Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 18 Oct 1995, Andrew Jones wrote: > > I finally have put the halloween-l archives on a www site. > > > > http://www.crl.com/~bertino > > It would be *very* helpful if this site is mentioned in the message > users get when subscribing to Halloween-l. You are 100% correct. I will make the changes today! don bertino@netcom.com ____/^\_____________________________________ Disney ascii art & / \ || FDC MCP || / \ animations are at <______\ [] [] [] || [] [] [] || [] [] [] /______> ftp.netcom.com ======\----------------||----------||----------------/=== /pub/be/bertino========\______________||__________||______________/===== From owner-halloween-l Wed Oct 25 10:33:38 1995 From: "D. Joseph Creighton" Subject: Recipe To: halloween-l@netcom.com ("The Halloween-ies") Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 16:30:50 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: [ I've seen a similar idea in the archives, but this one sounded so good that I just had to share it with the list. Please take note that I've made no effort to censor the original wording in anyway, I take no responsibility for you reading it, for you finding it disgusting, or for your delirious rage afterward for being so insulted by the whole thing. So there. :P - Joe ] Remember: I warned you... > Susan Mudgett's Deep Shit Cookie recipe, by > scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us > > here, by popular request(believe it or not) is the recipe for my > famous disgusting cookies that look like cats poops(rolled in > grape-nuts, which makes lovely fake kitty litter.) > > last warning-many of you may not want to read this! (She really means it, you know) > this is the recipe for little gator's famous "deep shit cookies" > > there are two flavors-chocolate(dark brown), and gingerbread(light > brown) > > i seldom measure carefully so amounts may need adjustment, > especially on flavoring. the cookies are dense and not very > sweet, this is necesssary so that they will keep their shape > during baking. if you use white flour or sugar they may be > tastier but they won't look like shit. > > chocolate ingredients: > > 1/2 cup honey > 2/3 cup (1 and 1/3 stick) butter, margarine, or lard > 1 egg > 1 tsp vanilla or peppermint extract > 2 cups whole wheat flour > 1/3 cup cocoa powder > grape-nuts(tm) cereal > > gingerbread ingredients: > > 1/4 cup honey > 1/4 cup molasses > 2/3 cup(1 and 1/3 stick) butter or margarine, or lard > 1 egg > 2 and 1/3 cups whole wheat flour > spices-ginger, cinnamon, cloves to taste(maybe 1/2 tsp each) > grape-nuts(tm) cereal > > mix-ins: > > coconut(tapeworms) > chocolate chips > butterscotch chips > peanut butter chips > cooked spagetti or ramen noodles(roundworms) > corn > peanuts > m&ms > "those puffy pastel things you find at chinese restaurants"(shrimp > chips-to look like the cat ate styrofoam packing pellets-i haven't > tried this) > > to make: > microwave the honey till it bubbles(about 1 minute). add the > butter,(i've been told using lard makes for a more realistic > texture and softer cookie) and the molasses, if any. add the egg, > mix well, then mix in all the other stuff. add mix-ins of your > choice to some or all of the batter. > > chill 1 hour in the freezer or several hours in the fridge. roll > dough logs of random length and the diameter of cat poops. roll > logs in grape-nuts and bake at 350 degrees till done(maybe 10 to > 15 minutes but with my flaky oven you never know). note: someone > with a reliable oven says it's closer to 20 minutes for > him.(thanks paul!) > > serve in a disposable cat litter box on a bed of grapenuts, with a > cat litter scoop. i hear you get lovely effects by decorating the > box and scoop with melted chocolate or pudding. i imagine brown > sugar might work as a substitute for the new clumping litters, but > i haven't tried it. i've been told that mixing brown sugar with > the grapenuts "sweetens up the cookie a bit while still looking > truly hideous." > > this recipe worked especially well at the halloween party where > the table was already decorated with plastic flies. -- "Slow down faster!" -- my wife, Laurie, about my driving habits. http://www.ee.umanitoba.ca/~djc/ D. Joseph Creighton \ Sr. Programmer, DB Support: Admin Computer Services Joe_Creighton@UManitoba.CA \ University of Manitoba Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada From owner-halloween-l Wed Oct 25 10:43:39 1995 Date: Thu, 19 Oct 95 14:57:08 PDT From: lfarr@santa.stratacom.com (Lisa Farr) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Fake Metal Fences Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: There's a company called Seasonal Sensations that sells a kit for making cardboard cemetery gates. It's about $35, comes with its own glue gun, takes about 3 hours to assemble. Way cool, though. I don't have their number, but can find it if necessary. Check the 800 directory. I find cardboard works well for making props like gates, fences, etc., if you're not in too damp of an area! From owner-halloween-l Wed Oct 25 10:56:02 1995 From: "D. Joseph Creighton" Subject: Re: Need help with Yahoo listing To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 12:04:46 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: In the last exciting episode, Don Bertino wrote: } A title... ;) The list is alpha sorted so "A halloween decorating } mailing list archive" would be sorted to near the top. ;) What do you } thing? ;) Some ideas (alphabetically, speaking): Absoultely the Best Ideas for Halloween Tricks and Decorations Archived Ideas from the Halloween Mailing List } And a 3 to 8 line description about what we are all about..... Be wary here. Yahoo (by default) uses this description when matching against searches, so you'll want to include as many keywords or phrases as possible if you want to ensure successful hits. Since 'Halloween' will presumably be in the title, you can cover the gambit in the description, ie: Questions and comments on using dry ice, foggers, special effects (both lighting and sound), as well as party food, party themes, mask and costume ideas, tombstones, and more! (Gads, I should work for an ad agency. ;) Hope that inspires. - Joe -- "The time you enjoy wasting is not wasting time." -- T.S. Eliot http://www.ee.umanitoba.ca/~djc/ D. Joseph Creighton \ Sr. Programmer, DB Support: Admin Computer Services Joe_Creighton@UManitoba.CA \ University of Manitoba Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada From owner-halloween-l Wed Oct 25 12:24:01 1995 From: "Niziol, Chris" To: "Halloween List" Subject: Halloween Tips Date: Wed Oct 25 14:31 EDT 1995 Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Here is an assembled guide for Halloween tips, enjoy! Good Advice: * Never read a book of demon summoning aloud, even as a joke. * Do not search the basement, especially if the power has just gone out. * When it appears that you have killed the monster, *never* check to see if it's really dead. * If you find that your house is built upon or near a cemetery, was once a church that was used for black masses, had previous inhabitants who went mad or committed suicide or died in some horrible fashion, or had inhabitants who performed necrophilia or satanic practices in your house move away immediately. * If your friends speak to you in Latin or any other language which they do not know, or if they speak to you using a voice which is other than their own, shoot them immediately. It will save you a lot of grief in the long run. NOTE: It will probably take several rounds to kill them, so be prepared. * When you have the benefit of numbers, *never* pair off or go it alone. * As a general rule, don't solve puzzles that open portals to Hell. * Never stand in, on, above, below, beside,or anywhere near a grave, tomb, crypt, mausoleum, or other house of the dead. * If you're searching for something which caused a noise and find out that "it's just the cat," leave the room immediately if you value your life. * If appliances start operating by themselves, move out. * Do not take *anything* from the dead. * If you find a town that looks deserted, it's probably for a reason. Take the hint and stay away. * Don't fool with recombinant DNA technology unless you're sure you know what you are doing. * If you're running from the monster, expect to trip or fall down at least twice, more if you are of the female persuasion. Also note that, despite the fact that you are running and the monster is merely shambling along, it's still moving fast enough to catch up with you. * If your companions suddenly begin to exhibit uncharacteristic behavior such as hissing, fascination for blood, glowing eyes, increasing hairiness, and so on, get away from them as fast as possible. * Stay away from certain geographical locations, some of which are listed here: Amityville, Elm Street, Transylvania, Nilbog (God help you if you recognize this one), the Bermuda Triangle, or any small town in Maine. * If your car runs out of gas at night, do not go to the nearby deserted-looking house to phone for help. * Beware of strangers bearing tools such as chainsaws, staple guns, hedge trimmers, electric carving knives, combines, lawnmowers, butane torches, soldering irons, band saws, or any device made from deceased companions. Halloween Party Help Guide !!! =============================== Symptom : Drinking fails to give satisfaction and taste ; shirt front is wet. Fault : Mouth not open when drinking or glass being applied to wrong part of face. Solution : Get another pint and practice in front of a mirror. Continue with as many pints as necessary until drinking technique is perfect. Symptom : Drinking fails to give satisfaction and taste ; Beer unusually pale and clear. Fault : Glass is empty. Solution : Find someone who will get you another pint. Symptom : Feet cold and wet. Fault : Glass being held at incorrect angle. Solution : Turn glass so that open end is pointing at ceiling. Symptom : Feet warm and wet. Fault : Loss of self-control. Solution : Go outside and stand beside nearest dog - After a while complain to its owner about its lack of house training. Symptom : Apartment is blurred. Fault : You are looking through the bottom of your empty glass. Solution : Find someone who will get you another pint. Symptom : Room swaying. Fault : Air turbulence unusually high - window may be cracked. Solution : Insert broom handle down back of jacket. Symptom : Room moving. Fault : You are being carried out. Solution : Find out if you are being taken to another party - if not complain loudly that you are being hi-jacked. Symptom : The opposite wall is white and has a lights on it. Fault : You have fallen over backwards. Solution : If glass is still full, and no one is standing on your drinking arm, stay put. If not, get someone to lift you up and lash you to the bar. Symptom : Everything has gone dim and you have a mouth full of teeth and fuzz - bunny+s. Fault : You have fallen over forwards. Solution : Same as for falling over backwards. Symptom : Everything has gone dim. Fault : The party is dying. Solution : PANIC !!!!! TOP 10 REASONS TRICK-OR TREATING IS BETTER THAN SEX: 10. Guaranteed to get at least a little something in the sack. 9. If you get tired, wait 10 minutes and go at it again. 8. The uglier you look, the easier it is to get some. 7. You don't have to compliment to the person who gave you candy. 6. Its ok when the person you're with fantasizes you're someone else, because you ARE someone else. 5. 40 years from now, you'll still enjoy candy. 4. If you don't get what you want, you can always go next door. 3. Doesn't matter if kids hear you moaning and groaning. 2. Less guilt the next morning. AND the number 1 reason: 1. You can "do" the whole neighborhood!!!!! HAPPY HALLOWEEN AND HAPPY TRICK(s) OR TREATING!!!! Chris From owner-halloween-l Wed Oct 25 15:08:15 1995 Date: Sun, 22 Oct 1995 19:23:02 -0700 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: trix@primenet.com (Darlene Horwath) Subject: your years of experience Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: RO X-Status: Coleen sent me this direct email, but suggested I post my reply to the group since some of you might like to hear it and add to it too! > I am a subscriber to Halloween -l and have communicated once >before with you on an email basis about recipes (and they look goooed!). Thanks! I have several more if you need particular food ideas let me know! >I know you are a veteran halloween partier.... You caught me! and I was wondering >if you have any advice for me regarding things to do, ie. party >activities for a H- party. I dont have a hardcore crowd--i practially >had to bribe/threaten them in order to get them to come in costume-- >but they are pretty game for most stuff, i think.. ('specially after >a bit of punch...). >Do you have any ideas/standbys that you rely on, or do you just >let folks mingle about...??? I would really appreciate your advice..! I just had a big bash here last night. Now it will be non stop fun for the next week or so. I just love this time of year! A couple of thoughts- If you can't get um to come in costume...pick a color and have them dress in all that color (I used orange and or black). That gets everyone in the mood... Another option is to dress like your favorite dead person. Ive seen some great ones: John Lennon, Jackoe O., Curt Cobain (gorrry), Charlie Chaplin, Hitler, Elvis (not sure if he is really dead or not, but we let it go). That way people can get as into it as they want. Nearly everyone has someone they look like or are a fan of... Entertainment: Gory food is a great way to get people in the mood. Be sure to have some fun with dry ice. We added it to the mystery punch and kept it in a crock pot. 13 lbs did us for the night. If you can swing a bonfire, that is surpurb! We had one last night and they almost started taking my deck apart for more wood. It was still going strong at 3am! We also had a tarot reader (but any type of reader-palmist, tea leaves, psychic ect- would be excellent). A big hit !!! We had tables set up for regular party games like oodles, liar's dice and trivia games. Halloween music is a must!! There have been several suggestions on the H-mailing list for great tunes. One more mixer type idea is to have eitherr a casino night or give people money to bid on mystery prizes in a all Hallows Auction. Hope this helps a little!! Let me know if you need any more last minute ideas! Best wishes for a festive time to everyone!!!! Trix a/k/a Dar -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Is that a modem in your pocket or RU just happy 2C me! http://www.primenet.com/~trix/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-halloween-l Wed Oct 25 15:17:22 1995 Date: Mon, 23 Oct 1995 12:48:35 -0400 Subject: Favorite Blood Recipes? From: Fred Giuffrida To: "Halloween List" Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: There was a short lived thread recently in alt.theatre.stagecraft on recipes for fake blood. Corn Syrup and food coloring seems to be a favorite and I think this would be what I might use if I were making homemade blood capsules (though my dentist wouldn't like it). However, I'm pretty sure if I spread that around outside I'd be getting rid of ants until winter. Someone else posted a mixture of flour and water, simmered for about a half hour and then adding a lot of red food coloring and a dash of green. I tried this, but the flour imparts a "grainy" texture I don't like. I substitued corn starch as a thickener and I think I like that better. Anyone else have a favorite blood recipe they'd care to share? ~Fred ------------------------------------------------------------- Fred Giuffrida Paladin Software Quality Macintosh Consulting Services Phone: (603)595-0855 Internet: giuffrida@paladin.mv.com AOL: PaladinSft eWorld: FredG From owner-halloween-l Wed Oct 25 18:21:47 1995 From: "Dr. Johnny Gills, Jr." To: "'halloween-l@netcom.com'" Subject: RE: pumpkin carving Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 18:41:46 -0500 Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: ------ =_NextPart_000_01BAA30A.08105B00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit thanks for the suggestions. johnny ---------- From: Lewis Cartee[SMTP:cartee@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu] Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 1995 8:17 AM To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: pumpkin carving >hi folks, > i am looking for some info on halloween pumpkin carving. we are > having a little contest on my job and i am looking for some help. > > is there any help out there? > >johnny Johnny: Take a look at the products by Pumpkin Masters, which are available in South Louisiana in K-Mart, Wal-Mart, and most of the drug stores. PM offers pumpkin carving designs, techniques, and tools that allow even a first-timer to carve a very good jack-o-lantern. 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To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 08:53:37 -0500 (EDT) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Fred Giuffrida Wrote: >Anyone else have a favorite blood recipe they'd care to share? > >~Fred Quite by accident, I discovered that red (pink looking) cotton candy when slightly moistened looks great. It can even be made to look like it has clots! -- | Neil Kenig | Securicor Telesciences Inc. | | n.kenig@telesciences.com | 351 New Albany Road | | | Moorestown, NJ 08057 | From owner-halloween-l Thu Oct 26 07:27:06 1995 Date: Thu, 26 Oct 95 07:07 PDT To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: bdosfx@wimsey.com (Brian Oberquell) Subject: Re: Favorite Blood Recipes? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Fred Giuffrida recently posted: (most of message clipped) >Anyone else have a favorite blood recipe they'd care to share? I have accumulated quite a few over the years, but the one that I use the most is Dick Smith's blood recipe as follows: WHITE CORN ZINC OXIDE/ RED FOOD YELLOW FOOD KODAK WATER SYRUP CORN STARCH COLOUR COLOUR (1) PHOTO-FLO (2) 1 PINT 1/2 LEVEL TSP. 1 OZ. 2 1/2 TSP. 1 OZ. 1 OZ. 1 QUART 1 LEVEL TSP. 2 OZ. 5 TSP. 2 OZ. 2 OZ. 2 QUARTS 2 LEVEL TSP. 4 OZ. 1 OZ. + 4 TSP. 4 OZ. 4 OZ. 3 QUARTS 3 LEVEL TSP. 6 OZ. 2 1/2 OZ. 6 OZ. 6 OZ. 1 GALLON 4 LEVEL TSP. 8 OZ. 3 OZ. + 2 TSP. 8 OZ. 8 OZ. (1) -- If you are NOT using Ehler's brand yellow, use only ONE-HALF the amount indicated. (2) -- Only use the Photo-Flo (a wetting agent which makes the blood flow and soak into fabric better) if you are NOT going to use the blood in the mouth. MIXING PROCEDURE -- Put the zinc oxide or cornstarch into a bowl, add an equal amount of water and stir into a paste. Add the food colour and stir, then add a little of the corn syrup and mix well. Pour into a container that holds more than the final amount (you have to mix before using as it can separate), add the remaining corn syrup and mix well, then add the amount of water specified and mix again. This will give you blood with normal consistency. The blood may look too bright when used on white materials; if you need to darken it add about 35 drops of green colouring per quart to darken. If you want to thin it for pumping, make it up with the Photo-Flo but dilute the corn syrup with an equal amount of water before you mix in the rest of the ingredients. For thicker blood, add small amounts of smooth peanut butter (experiment with the amount until you get the thickness you want). Keep the blood refrigerated when not in use or it will grow mould and be wasted; shake it up before use. Although this formula usually washes off of clothes and skin with no trouble, certain fabrics may stain (it _will_ stain Spandex!) so test them first and/or use old clothing that you won't mind ruining. I've used this for years and never ruined any clothing, but...caveat emptor! Depending on the colour of the fabric it's being used on and the effect I need, I may add some blue F.C. to the blood -- as with anything in life, it's a matter of taste and preference. Regards, Brian ______________________________________________________________________________ Brian D. Oberquell The Wizard's Den SPFX Studio 210 Cornell Way Port Moody, B.C. CANADA V3H 3W2 Phone (604) 931-6298 Pager (604) 895-3721 "15 years in the business and we still have all our fingers" From owner-halloween-l Thu Oct 26 10:39:57 1995 From: "Niziol, Chris" To: "Halloween List" Subject: The town of Nilbog Date: Thu Oct 26 13:11 EDT 1995 Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Nilbog or goblin spelled backwards, does exist ! It is one of those towns, that is here one day and disappears. It reappears in a different location. Where will it appear next? Who knows. Be sure and let us know if you do know where and when it appears........... ---------- From: Deborah Tarsiewicz - 3528981 To: Niziol, Chris Subject: Re: Halloween Tips Date: Wednesday, October 25, 1995 3:34PM On Wed, 25 Oct -1, Niziol, Chris wrote: > ...Amityville, Elm Street, Transylvania, Nilbog (God help you if you > recognize this one), the Bermuda Triangle, or any small town in Maine. I will probably regret asking but what on earth is Nilbog??? Thanks in Advance! ############################################################################ ## Deborah Tarsiewicz dtarsiew@nunic.nu.edu From owner-halloween-l Fri Oct 27 17:15:49 1995 Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 15:54:13 -0500 (CDT) From: Detah To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: pumpkin carving Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 24 Oct 1995, Dr. Johnny Gills, Jr. wrote: > hi folks, > i am looking for some info on halloween pumpkin carving. we are > having a little contest on my job and i am looking for some help. > > is there any help out there? > > johnny > Try target or walmart for some kits. They have some interesting traditional and non-traditional patterns(spiders, ghosts, etc). Hope this helps. Your message was a little vague and nonspecific. sincerely, Detah Do not ask too many questions, I may have to kill you. There are two kinds of people on this Earth and You are not either of them. From owner-halloween-l Sat Oct 28 13:18:07 1995 From: glenn@zuni.chaco.com (Glenn Crocker) Subject: Virtual Jack-O-Lantern, http://www.chaco.com/~glenn/jack/ To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Sat, 28 Oct 1995 12:19:59 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Howdy. I've constructed a VRML Virtual Jack-O-Lantern on the Web. There's currently 3,888 different jack-o-lanterns you can make using an HTML form (choosing different eye shapes, etc). Check it out at: http://www.chaco.com/~glenn/jack/ VRML is the Virtual Reality Modelling Language. It's a file format for describing 3d scenes and objects (like 3d pumpkins. ;-). If you use MS Windows, you can get a viewer for VRML files at: http://www.chaco.com/vrscout So with a VRML viewer and the Virtual Jack-O-Lantern, you can make a 3d pumpkin, then walk around it, get inside it for a "candle-eye-view", etc. Not terribly useful, but it does look kinda cool. -glenn From owner-halloween-l Sun Oct 29 11:57:33 1995 Date: Mon, 23 Oct 1995 10:00:36 -0400 Subject: Re: Painting light bulbs From: Fred Giuffrida To: "Halloween List" Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: RO X-Status: >You know I once saw the coolest thing, Blacklight Christmiss tree bulbs, they >were about 1 inch big and bright enough so you could see them from a >disnctence. I havent seen them since though.? > >I was just thinking cause, what if you had a set up were it was a "Ghosts >Christmiss" The tree could have spider webs and such? > >Hmm, Have to thing about that > >Jay > >-->Getting ready to use the Ol' Theater Magic {Thanks guys} Cob Web >Spinner!<-- > As someone pointed out last week. These were on sale for $15 for a string of 25 bulbs at Spenser Gifts. Of course I went right out and bought a set. They are kindof cool (actually that's supposed to be a plus. They don't get as hot as normal black lights.) Also, they don't seem to have the same effect as real black lights, but rather just cast a purple haze on everything. I still like them though. They're already strung around my kitchen. (I'm NOT going to wait until the day of the party to start decorating the house this year!) ~Fred ------------------------------------------------------------- Fred Giuffrida Paladin Software Quality Macintosh Consulting Services Phone: (603)595-0855 Internet: giuffrida@paladin.mv.com AOL: PaladinSft eWorld: FredG From owner-halloween-l Sun Oct 29 12:25:23 1995 From: alt@ixstar.att.com Date: Mon, 23 Oct 95 08:56:51 CDT To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Fake Metal Fences Re: xx Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: > I was wondering if someone knew of an economical way to make > light-weight lookalikes of the classic haunted house steel fences > that you always see. I wanted to use some in my back yard but they > are both too expensive and too heavy (they have to be carried through > the house) to purchase and just weather them. What we have done to surround the graveyard is to use simple 2 x 2 stakes in the ground; horizontal 1 x 2 near the top and the bottom of the stakes using drywall screws (we use thousands of these each halloween!). The fence pickets are any old junk plywood (1/4 or 3/8") cut about 6" wide with a 'point' on the top. These are drywall-screwed to the horizontal members at random spacing and angles (to give it that old, beat-up look). My wife painted them using white, black, and grey dry brushing to make them look old. It stores very compactly. Art Todesco alt@ixstar.att.com From owner-halloween-l Sun Oct 29 14:25:14 1995 From: Stuart_McIntire_at_AISDC@ccsmtp.uage.com Date: Wed, 25 Oct 95 09:19:20 EST To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: pumpkin carving Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: pumpkin carving Author: halloween-l@netcom.com at Internet Date: 10/24/95 11:27 PM >i am looking for some info on halloween pumpkin carving. >johnny I guess I should really get E-Mail at home since that is where all of my Halloween source material is. There are more than a few books on pumpkin carving available at a variety of places. Most are pattern books that are also sold with special carving tools. You should be able to find them just about anywhere. Interesting note: I learned new methods of carving which "peel" off the dark orange outer shell and expose the yellow-white flesh underneath from these books. It's a nice effect...the pumpkin really glows nicely with a good light source inside. And here I always thought you had to cut gaping holes in your pumpkin to get a good face! Suddenly I felt like a neophyte! :) - Stu [ stuart.mcintire@uage.com ] From owner-halloween-l Sun Oct 29 14:46:51 1995 From: RoboJay@aol.com Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 19:44:14 -0400 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Foamcore for Halloween Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: The person asking about how to make a fake fence reminded me of that miraculous material, foamcore. It's a thin sheet of styrofoam - like material sandwiched between layers of paper and comes in a variety of sizes and thicknesses. I've used it for costumes, decorations, protest signs and displays - and it has many more uses! Unlike cardboard, it doesn't get soggy when wet; and it's sturdier and more rugged. Consider foamcore! It may be a little late this year, but for next Halloween - let your imagination soar like a witch on her broom! From owner-halloween-l Sun Oct 29 15:23:17 1995 Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 23:48:23 -0700 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: dumptv@gargamel.ptw.com (Dean & Nancy & Dumpsterpiece Theatre) Subject: Re: Favorite Blood Recipes? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: > >Anyone else have a favorite blood recipe they'd care to share? > My husband, who works in fx, gave me his fave- 1 part corn syurp 3 parts red food color 1/4 or 1/2 part chocolate syrup the chocolate makes it more opaque hope it helps---- love the tarot reader idea!! I'm gonna do it! our party is on the 28th.... We replaced all the pictures haning on our walls with posters from horror movies, and posters out of fangoria magazines!! OF course, orange lights, skulls and spider webs everywhere!!! we are having a blast just getting ready!!!! Nancy ............................................................................ ............................................. ...........................................Watch Dumpsterpiece Theatre! .........................10pm Friday Nights......... KPAL TV..... Palmdale CA ....................................Cable channel 35.....UHF channel 38 ..............................Bad Movies- - -Ugly Co Hosts- - -Free Prizes! From owner-halloween-l Sun Oct 29 15:33:59 1995 Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 22:40:00 -0500 From: fl21af8s!fl21af8s!tecke@fl21af8s.attmail.com (!tecke) Subject: RE: pumpkin carving To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Johnny, What I have been doing for the past several years seems to work VERY well. The most important part is, of course, the pattern. I found some neat patterns in an old BOY SCOUT magazine that one of the kids had received. 1. Resize the pattern to fit your pumpkin 2. Using a straight-pin, in a connect-the-dots fashion, transfer the pattern onto the front of your pumpkin 3. Using an adjustable speed drill, drill a small hole about 1/4" into the section to be removed 4. Insert a coping saw blade ( the finer the tooth resolution, the better ) into the hole and cut out your "connect-the-dots" pattern While this technique may be slow, I have made some spectacular looking jack-o-lanterns. Happy Halloween and good luck in your contest! Tom ---------- From: owner-halloween-l To: halloween-l ('halloween-l Subject: pumpkin carving Date: Tuesday, October 24, 1995 7:47PM hi folks, i am looking for some info on halloween pumpkin carving. we are having a little contest on my job and i am looking for some help. is there any help out there? johnny From owner-halloween-l Mon Oct 30 07:52:08 1995 From: "BHendrsn@kirk.microsys.net" To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Sun, 29 Oct 1995 22:52:37 +0000 Subject: Re: Foamcore for Halloween Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: > The person asking about how to make a fake fence reminded me of that > miraculous material, foamcore. It's a thin sheet of styrofoam - like material > sandwiched between layers of paper and comes in a variety of sizes and > thicknesses. I've used it for costumes, decorations, protest signs and > displays - and it has many more uses! Unlike cardboard, it doesn't get soggy > when wet; and it's sturdier and more rugged. Consider foamcore! It may be a > little late this year, but for next Halloween - let your imagination soar > like a witch on her broom! I'm surprised that I hadn't thought of foamcore, since I also fly RC airplanes, but I ended up doing something else instead of the fence. I'm going to start working a little earlier next year for that kind of thing and it should look *REALLY* nice. Thanks. -Brian From owner-halloween-l Mon Oct 30 07:52:23 1995 From: "BHendrsn@kirk.microsys.net" To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 01:44:44 +0000 Subject: Party Wrap-up Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Well, it was an interesting party, I'll tell you that. Thanks to everyone for the ideas, etc. Now that I've been taking most of the stuff down, I've been coming up with new ideas for next year. I've got a ton of pictures and once they are developed, I might put them up on a web page somewhere. Does this list stay active even after Halloween? I'm planning on spending a *LOT* of time this year getting ready for next year. I'm leaving some of the scary stuff up for Halloween proper and am re-arranging to scare the snot out of the little kids. This evening, I started stringing my flying skeleton and setting up my front window displays. It should be a great night. What I have planned so far is as follows: At the front door, I have the entire entry done in heavy spider webbing and lit only in blacklight. Unfortunately, my motion-detector gargoyle knocker won't work under these conditions because there isn't enough light for the motion detector to work, but that's something to worry about for next year, I guess. Anyhow, off to one side, I've strung heavy fishing line at a severe angle across the front of the house. It is dark enough so that the line is absolutely invisible. I have a skeleton suspended on the line about 15 feet up behind a pillar and when I trigger it, it slides down the line right up to the door and the blacklight. It looks *NICE* coming down, guaranteed to scare anyone who gets the treatment. As for the inside, I have my entry closed off with black plastic and lit with dim red and green bulbs. Lots of sick stuff laying around, live rats, skulls, one of those lightning spheres, etc. I have a chair set up with a fake body in it and an identical chair and costume which I can switch and be the "dummy". When the real dummy is out, my wife will be handing out candy, but I can switch chairs in about 30 seconds and can come to life on very little notice. All I need to do now is move the graveyard that I had out in the back yard to the front yard on Halloween and I'll be ready to rock. Hopefully, one of my friends who has a great Jason get-up will come by again this year with his prop chainsaw. It has no moving parts but sounds exactly like a real chainsaw. Chasing people around with that always brightens up my day. ;) -Brian From owner-halloween-l Mon Oct 30 10:12:58 1995 Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 08:22:32 -0800 From: milwiron@ix.netcom.com (D.D. ) Subject: Re: Party Wrap-up To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: (Most of Brian's great post deleted for brevity) Brian Wrote: > Does this list stay active even after >Halloween? Let's keep it active! Denny From owner-halloween-l Mon Oct 30 16:06:47 1995 From: slk@locus.com (Susan Lively Klug) Subject: Re: Party Wrap-up To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 13:30:04 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: > Hopefully, one of my friends who has a great Jason get-up will come > by again this year with his prop chainsaw. It has no moving parts > but sounds exactly like a real chainsaw. Chasing people around with > that always brightens up my day. ;) > > -Brian prop chainsaw!!! Oh man I gotta have one of those. Any clue where your friend found it? Susan From owner-halloween-l Mon Oct 30 19:06:05 1995 Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 13:23:57 -0800 (PST) From: Don Bertino To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Trick or Treat (tongue-in-cheek)( Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: (Forwarded from a good friend of mine) For those of you who have not seen this list I thought you might enjoy it. I did not make it this list up although I found it amusing (I'm sure this comes as a great shock to you all). ftp.netcom.com ======\----------------||----------||----------------/=== /pub/be/bertino========\______________||__________||______________/===== From owner-halloween-l Mon Oct 30 20:34:05 1995 From: Michael Worth To: "'halloween-l@netcom.com'" Subject: RE: Party Wrap-up Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 20:19:39 -0700 Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: ------ =_NextPart_000_01BAA705.1F8820C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >prop chainsaw!!! Oh man I gotta have one of those. Any clue where >your friend found it? >Susan Why not simply remove the chain from a real Chain Saw? It's Noisy, and = it looks and sounds like the real thing because it is the real thing.=20 MW ------ =_NextPart_000_01BAA705.1F8820C0 Content-Type: application/ms-tnef Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 eJ8+Ig8DAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAENgAQAAgAAAAEAAQABBJAG ACgBAAABAAAADAAAAAMAADADAAAACwAPDgAAAAACAf8PAQAAAEsAAAAAAAAAgSsfpL6jEBmdbgDd AQ9UAgAAAABoYWxsb3dlZW4tbEBuZXRjb20uY29tAFNNVFAAaGFsbG93ZWVuLWxAbmV0Y29tLmNv bQAAHgACMAEAAAAFAAAAU01UUAAAAAAeAAMwAQAAABcAAABoYWxsb3dlZW4tbEBuZXRjb20uY29t AAADABUMAQAAAAMA/g8GAAAAHgABMAEAAAAZAAAAJ2hhbGxvd2Vlbi1sQG5ldGNvbS5jb20nAAAA AAIBCzABAAAAHAAAAFNNVFA6SEFMTE9XRUVOLUxATkVUQ09NLkNPTQADAAA5AAAAAAsAQDoBAAAA AgH2DwEAAAAEAAAAAAAAA0o4AQiABwAYAAAASVBNLk1pY3Jvc29mdCBNYWlsLk5vdGUAMQgBBIAB ABIAAABSRTogUGFydHkgV3JhcC11cADNBQEFgAMADgAAAMsHCgAeABQAEwAnAAEASQEBIIADAA4A AADLBwoAHgAUABEAKgABAEoBAQmAAQAhAAAAQTRGOTIyQ0NGNzEyQ0YxMUE4Qzc0NDQ1NTM1NDAw MDAA/gYBA5AGAOwCAAASAAAACwAjAAAAAAADACYAAQAAAAsAKQAAAAAAAwA2AAAAAABAADkAwODr tj+nugEeAHAAAQAAABIAAABSRTogUGFydHkgV3JhcC11cAAAAAIBcQABAAAAFgAAAAG6pz+268wi +aUS9xHPqMdERVNUAAAAAB4AHgwBAAAABQAAAFNNVFAAAAAAHgAfDAEAAAAXAAAAZnJxdGZseXJA aXgubmV0Y29tLmNvbQAAAwAGEO1wx9UDAAcQuQAAAB4ACBABAAAAZQAAAFBST1BDSEFJTlNBV09I TUFOSUdPVFRBSEFWRU9ORU9GVEhPU0VBTllDTFVFV0hFUkVZT1VSRlJJRU5ERk9VTkRJVD9TVVNB TldIWU5PVFNJTVBMWVJFTU9WRVRIRUNIQUlORlIAAAAAAgEJEAEAAABzAQAAbwEAAJ0CAABMWkZ1 bzvZ0P8ACgEPAhUCqAXrAoMAUALyCQIAY2gKwHNldDI3BgAGwwKDMgPFAgBwckJxEeJzdGVtAoMz dwLkBxMCgH0KgAjPCdk78RYPMjU1AoAKgQ2xC2DgbmcxMDMUUAsKFFFlC/JjAEAgPhnNE1BvzRPQ YwVAG/FwIBFxC4AQc2F3IR1AIE9oYiADgkkgZxwQAZAgMRGAdmUgAiAeoWYgSHRobxGwLiAUsG5G eRywCkEgd2gEkGWvCocZ7xr/HAV5CGEgA1A5CJBuZCPwCGAkQWl0nj8KhSCfIa8bflN1HRCebgqP JjclbyZ4V2gf0OpuHBAgAJBtC1Af0BYQfwRgHpEfMB6gHMMj8QNwIGceUBYQB0AgQy3jBhB3oj8f kEl0JwehbwQALHksLnAkoyAVoG9rGwQgMHJzJIIEIGxpa48tdC6jHzALgGcgYgWQ/mEooB6gMLEE ADI9H4AlDCxNVyjlFTEANsAAAwAQEAEAAAADABEQAAAAAEAABzDgV6pwP6e6AUAACDDgV6pwP6e6 AR4APQABAAAABQAAAFJFOiAAAAAAIb8= ------ =_NextPart_000_01BAA705.1F8820C0-- From owner-halloween-l Wed Nov 1 07:50:14 1995 Date: Mon, 30 Oct 95 17:09:12 PST From: lfarr@santa.stratacom.com (Lisa Farr) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Party Wrap-up Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Yep, this years party was a success. The theme was "Back from the Dead". The best costumes were Jack (from Jack in the Box) and a road kill frog. Big thanks to whoever created the cold-cuts-over-the-plastic-skull recipe. It was a BIG hit. I made some modifications - I put a balloon inside the skull, filled it with water and froze it. The Jello wouldn't stick, so I left it out. I found peeled radish eyes made it look really horrible, especially with some red Jello squished into the socket. That, the brain dip, and cat s*** cookies made for a completely disgusting array of party food. (Pilsbury Reese's Pieces cookie dough makes rad cat turds - just bake-n-shape!) Rented a Roscoe 1500 fog machine, which was a win. It came with a dryer-tube that we threw dry ice cubes into to cool the fog and make it hug the ground. Worked great. Now to start planning for next year's party.... From owner-halloween-l Wed Nov 1 07:55:42 1995 Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 07:30:21 -0800 (PST) From: Don Bertino To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Party Wrap-up Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 30 Oct 1995, D.D. wrote: > (Most of Brian's great post deleted for brevity) > > Brian Wrote: > > Does this list stay active even after > >Halloween? > > Let's keep it active! Hi Denny! Yes, certainly! Let's hear about everyones Halloween and the new and great ideas everyone did and/or saw. don bertino@netcom.com ____/^\_____________________________________ Disney ascii art & / \ || FDC MCP || / \ animations are at <______\ [] [] [] || [] [] [] || [] [] [] /______> ftp.netcom.com ======\----------------||----------||----------------/=== /pub/be/bertino========\______________||__________||______________/===== From owner-halloween-l Wed Nov 1 08:05:48 1995 From: "BHendrsn@kirk.microsys.net" To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 00:44:44 +0000 Subject: Re: Party Wrap-up Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: > > Hopefully, one of my friends who has a great Jason get-up will come > > by again this year with his prop chainsaw. It has no moving parts > > but sounds exactly like a real chainsaw. Chasing people around with > > that always brightens up my day. ;) > > > > -Brian > > prop chainsaw!!! Oh man I gotta have one of those. Any clue where > your friend found it? I know he used a real chainsaw with the chain removed but he has removed a lot of parts to make it very lightweight. I'll ask him for the details (assuming he shows). -Brian From owner-halloween-l Wed Nov 1 11:54:11 1995 From: "D. Joseph Creighton" Subject: Hallowe'en Debrief To: halloween-l@netcom.com ("The Halloween-ies") Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 11:17:34 -0600 (CST) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Well, it wasn't a party per se, even though we did have fun putting it on. Geared for the kids who come by, here's a debrief of our little Hallowe'en venture, done the only way I know how... :) - - - - - - - - - - As your car slows, you reach a small country home. Looking down the long, 250 foot driveway and into the yard, you can see the house lit by an erie green glow with a backdrop of looming oaks and elms. The kids in the back seat are now standing up and looking around at things, curiosity getting the best of them. They remember this place from last year and are expecting a good scare right from the start. Gathering your courage, you turn the wheel and begin the long drive in. Halfway down the road, a light comes on, shining at you from the dashboard of a vehicle some 50 feet in front. As it revolves under the very familiar red and blue filter, it's quite obvious that there is some kind of police presence here. Even the children know there must be a problem: one of them whispers, "Uh oh..." As you continue your approach slower now, the driver's side door of the vehicle opens and a man steps out. His flashlight is on and he is walking towards the vehicle and meets up with you just as you come to a stop. You tell the children they'd better sit down and you open your window. "Is there a problem," you ask? The children are amazingly quiet. The man leans in slightly, shining his flashlight around the interior of the vehicle. In a suit and tie, kept warm only by his long overcoat, he has a laminated clip-on ID badge hanging from his coat's lapel with his picture and signature on it. The letters "FBI" are clearly visible. "I'm afraid so." He flashes a wallet ID taken from his pocket, similarly emblazoned with a picture and signature. "I'm a special agent with the FBI. We've recently tracked down a homicial maniac who was stalking this area, using a butcher's knife to chop the arms and legs off of anyone he could catch." He turns his flashlight to light up a dark shape laying on the ground in the distance ahead. "As you can see, he's been taken care of." He turns his attention back to you. "However, we'd appreciate it if you could all walk the rest of the way so as not to disturb the crime scene." Checking with the kids (they all say they're not scared) you agree. With the lights of the car now off and everyone standing outside, the green glow of the house combined with the flashing red and blue cruiser lights is quite strange. The FBI agent leads the way down the rest of the road. You can see that the body on the ground is covered by a black bag with only the feet and legs visible. A very large butcher's knife is beside it. [ It's obvious that the body is nothing but a stuffed set of clothes ] Protecting the area from people getting too close is a line of yellow tape with the words "DANGER" written on it over and over again. "Please," suggests the FBI agent, "avoid the police line. It's for your own safety." The kids walk a wide arc around the body itself, but seem unconcerned about the police line. They are quite sceptical about what's laying on the ground and a few even whisper that it's not even real. After climbing a set of stairs, everyone finally arrives safely at the door to the house. A light misting of dry ice fog laps at their feet. "I'll wait here while you visit," the FBI agent says from the ground, "and escort you back to your vehicle when you're done." "Thank you," you say. [ Insert usual Trick-or-Treat / Hallowe'en Apples / *doorbell ring* here. My wife pleasantly greets the guests and invites them in to give them their candy. Inside, a pumpkin of a silly face sits on a nearby table and the house is pleasantly friendly. One child informs my wife that he wasn't scared at all. The body outside was so fake. In fact, he says, he's bored. Oh well... ] After prompting the children to say their thank-yous, you open the door and, as promised, the FBI agent is waiting with his flashlight at the bottom of the stairs. He smiles and waits for you and your group to come down and meet him. "I hope you all had fun," he says. Many of the kids pipe up with a happy "yes". A chatter ensues as they all head back to their vehicle. Passing by the police line, the children are not avoiding the "body" at all. And why should they? They have their treats and that fake body wasn't so scary. But this time, they're wrong. Dead wrong. The "body" comes to life, grabbing the nearby knife and howling to get at the kids. The children scream. The FBI agent steps out from the group, pulls out a revolver [ starter pistol/.38 replica which fires .22 blanks ] and vocally warns off the maniac. But it's no good. The children are quickly backing up, heading to their vehicle, but that's where the maniac is heading too. The agent is forced to fire. BLAM. BLAM. The maniac stumbles. The children scream. "Hurry, get to your car!" The maniac takes another few steps to the children. The children scramble. BLAM. BLAM. The last shot drops the maniac cold right on the edge of the driveway, just as the kids are piling into the car. They are standing on their seats, eyes riveted to the still form on the ground as you turn the car around and begin to head off. As you drive beside the body of the maniac, he once again springs to life, chasing the vehicle along its side, clawing at the windows and swinging his large butcher's knife in the air. The children scream. [ A scream so loud my wife heard it from the doorstep ] You gun the motor and leave the maniac behind, howling for blood. Finally, you're safe once more... until next year, that is. - - - - - - - - - - I hope you enjoyed the show. This was a collage of all the visitors we had during the evening. A few children were too scared to walk in, so we let the car pull right up beside the house. Of course, we got them coming out anyways. :) Some parents were a bit tentative about going for the walk themselves and decided instead to let their children brave it out for them. They were then quite aware of the swapping out of the fake body while their children were inside and could anticipate the mayhem they were about to witness. It was also so nice that the parents all seemed to play along with the seriousness of being "pulled over," whether or not they walked in. It made things that much more real to the kids, I think. Anyway, I'm looking forward to hearing everyone else's stories of their big night! Happy Hallowe'en all. - Joe -- "One test is worth a thousand expert opinions" -- Bill Nye the Science Guy http://www.ee.umanitoba.ca/~djc/ D. Joseph Creighton \ Sr. Programmer, DB Support: Admin Computer Services Joe_Creighton@UManitoba.CA \ University of Manitoba Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada From owner-halloween-l Wed Nov 1 14:09:39 1995 Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 13:49:45 -0800 (PST) From: Don Bertino To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Being humbled at Halloween decorating Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Hi All! Hope everyone had a great Halloween! I can't wait to hear what you all did *and* what are your plans for next year..... :) Me? I bought a hand clicker counter to count kids and was amazed when it read 663 at 9:00pm. Yikes! I took pictures and will put it on the web site later, but... I took off at 9:00pm to see "the court" There was a write up in the newspaper and thought I would go see. Man oh man. 5 watt laser (damn thing had to have a disel generator for it, 440V 50amp) 10 computer controled can lights that moved in sync. 7,000 watt sound system 20 strobe lights at least at least two "slide" show projectors these things must of been really really bright. They lit up a three story house's front with a rotating image. All the lights where on differant houses and where all in sync. Man! I am saving my pennies... :) He had to FAA approval to do the light show. Anyway, back to my, plain old halloween house... (sob) Now lets see, if I do the flying ghost system for Christmas and put Santa on it..... :) don bertino@netcom.com ____/^\_____________________________________ Disney ascii art & / \ || FDC MCP || / \ animations are at <______\ [] [] [] || [] [] [] || [] [] [] /______> ftp.netcom.com ======\----------------||----------||----------------/=== /pub/be/bertino========\______________||__________||______________/===== From owner-halloween-l Wed Nov 1 16:04:08 1995 From: alt@ixstar.att.com Date: Mon, 30 Oct 95 12:42:02 CST To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Flying Ghost, again Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: RO X-Status: Just thought I'd let you know about my flying ghost system. I built a basic out-and-back (to use roller-coaster terminology). On the parkway tree was a 18" 2x4 strapped vertically to a large vertical branch. I used large plastic "wire ties." On this was mounted a 5" wheel with built-in bearing. These plastic wheels were bought at American Science and Surplus for $3. I mounted the wheel to a bench grinder and cut a groove using a wood chisel like a lath. When mounted on a threaded rod it made an excellent pulley. This was mounted horizontally. At the house end was a 200 RPM motor (from AA&S) with a 6" plastic wheel mounted to the motor shaft. The tread from the wheel was removed making it a nice pulley too; it also fit the motor shaft. I used .080" weed whacker nylon using crimp-on ferrells to secure. Too allow the ghost to be heavier, I provided a plastic covered steel wire mounted below the pulley system. A fishing pulley and weight was used as the trolley on the steel wire with the ghost hanging from the weight. A small chain was used to attach the trolley to the nylon pulley with appropriate swivel link to eliminate tangling. The nylon pulley only pulls the ghost; all the ghost weight it on the heavy wire. For the ghost, one of the store-bought ghosts was used at the basis. The motor that makes it wiggle and the inside light was disconnected. Instead I used 2 green LEDs for eyes. It was then outfitted with a new white cloth (where's my bed sheet!) making it about 2 feet high; the LEDs poke through the cloth. When it starts up there is sufficient noise to start the internal sound unit and LED eyes going. The ghost goes out to the tree and back where a limit switch stops it at the house; the electronic noise also stops and the LED eyes shut down. A timer (from AS&S) sends him on the round trip once every minute; the round trip take about 25 seconds. Looks really good when he comes out of the tree branches and leaves. Next year I plan on replacing the cheesey ghost sound with a custom sound chip and a good speaker, i.e. using the heavy duty pulley system. Art Todesco alt@ixstar.att.com