Tony G From rbradvica@covina.lightside.com Thu Nov 30 20:02:11 1995 Date: Thu, 30 Nov 95 20:03 PST To: owner-halloween-l@netcom.com From: rbradvica@covina.lightside.com (R. Bradvica) Subject: halloween list Status: O X-Status: Hi Don, in the last couple of days my internet provider has been expriencing problems so messages may have bounced from my account. PLEASE resubscribe me to the list as this is the best list on the net. I tried to resubscribe but was not able to. Only 335 days til halloween! thank you robert rbradvica@lightside.com From owner-halloween-l Fri Dec 1 12:33:19 1995 Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 12:28:03 -0800 (PST) From: Don Bertino To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: your mail Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 30 Nov 1995, Usoff_P wrote: > unsubscribe halloween-l Usoff_P Please don't send unsubscribe messages to the list. Send them to listserv@netcom.com with unsubscribe halloween-l Thanks! don bertino@netcom.com ____/^\_____________________________________ Disney ascii art & / \ || FDC MCP || / \ animations are at <______\ [] [] [] || [] [] [] || [] [] [] /______> ftp.netcom.com ======\----------------||----------||----------------/=== /pub/be/bertino========\______________||__________||______________/===== From owner-halloween-l Fri Dec 1 17:28:03 1995 Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 20:20:29 -0800 From: bobbyr@ix.netcom.com (Bobby Rosenberger ) Subject: Re: Party Props... (The Mausoleum) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: You wrote: >another option for columns is to contact your local carpet dealer they >should have some empty rools that they could give you. That's a great idea! That would make the whole thing much lighter. I'm going to look into that! Bobby R. From owner-halloween-l Fri Dec 1 18:32:19 1995 From: TheLazer@aol.com Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 12:36:21 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Re[2]: Strobe advice, 2nd. try Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: A book called "Boy Wonder" Can someone find out the Auther of this, or It's Number.. If so I can see if I cant get a hold of a copy! Jay From owner-halloween-l Fri Dec 1 18:35:06 1995 Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 03:51:40 -0700 From: Lauren Jones To: ljones@hal.aphis.usda.gov, halloween-l@netcom.com, halloween-l@netcom.com.-Reply Subject: Where the Haunts Are Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: I'm going to start a catalogue of addresses of privately-run haunted houses across the U.S. When you know for a fact that you're going to be in in 1996, please email your address, maybe the name of the nearest large city, and local directions from that city. I used to call mine "Three Eyes" because we always had a 3-eyed jack-o-lantern somewhere out front...so, if you have a name for your creation, send that, too. From owner-halloween-l Fri Dec 1 18:46:49 1995 From: Stuart_McIntire_at_AISDC@ccsmtp.uage.com Date: Mon, 27 Nov 95 09:08:25 EST To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re[2]: How To Run A Financially Successful Haunted House Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: An add-on to Robert's answer: >the book is a pretty good source of info and works really well as a check >list to see that everything necessary is getting done. i've seen other book >on the subject but this on e seems the best. here is some of the stuff >covered... >CHAP 1 >how to make money >sale of tickets >concessions >other services >CHAP 2 >how to find a location >getting people to help >organization chart >CHAP 3 >a first class attraction >floor plan >costumes >CHAP 4 >legal and safety precautions >check list >CHAP 5 >how to advertise >clip art >hype list >TV copy >radio copy >press stories >press photos >CHAP 6 >room designs(approx 55 pgs. some great ideas and some that might inspire >great ideas) >CHAP 7 >make it fun >one liners >sick jokes >epitaphs skip this chapter!!! >CHAP 8 >easy costume guide >rubber masks >CHAP 9 >make up >easy guide >professional >clown make up(for those evil clowns!!!) >that's the toc. if you see anything that interests you send me an e-mail >and i'll elaborate if i can. >also we have been doing "houses" for 5 years now. and they get more >successful year after year. both financially and terror wise. it is very >expensive at first to buy all of the props and building materials. but >reusing these thing helps and stuff does seem to accumulate very fast. we >have a huge storage facility filled to the roof with props after just >those 5 years. also making plans for your house way in advance also helps >so you can spread out purchases through out the year and look for thing at >garage sales and such. >you pretty much just need to get a book with torture devices in it and >build them by looking at the pictures. i'm still trying to find someone >with a background in magic to help me build a working guillotine!!! >i hope that some of this long message helped. Thanks for the great overview, Robert! As the one who started this thread, you saved me the time and trouble of putting the response together :) I can add that though I look for new sources of info and ideas every year, this is the one I always go back to. You can use this book for everything from simple trick-or-treat ideas to elaborate haunted houses. I've got another book that was recently published which has some good ideas also. I'll post the info on that one very soon. Have I ever run a financially successful haunted house? I guess that depends on your definition! :) Years ago, I did some volunteer work with the Rockville, MD Jaycees. I have no idea what the gate was, but I can guarantee we made oodles of money. More recently (as I've posted previously), I've been the PTA chairman of the annual Halloween party at our kid's school. We've put this together each year with the intent to break even, but always figured if it cost us money, it was worth- while to provide a family fun night. With that in mind, the first two years we did anywhere from 50 to 100 dollars in the black. The third year we went overboard to the tune of several hundred dollars. This year I reigned in my assistants and put together a budget. In the end, we were about $230 in the red. I consider that a success, both personally and as a PTA since we really did achieve our goals of providing entertainment and at the low, low cost of roughly 41 cents per guest. If you can find this book (it was on the shelves this year), it's well worth the cost. It's an excellent organizational tool and educates the reader pretty well regarding how to get the publicity you need. Not to mention some very *excellent* creative ideas. As far as looking for this type of material, it's not easy. This one is five star IMHO. Come to think of it, I've got probably two more books worth posting information on, so I'll put that at the top of my "to do" list. Till then, - Stu [ stuart.mcintire@uage.com ] From owner-halloween-l Sat Dec 2 11:06:15 1995 Date: Fri, 01 Dec 1995 08:40:30 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Franklin Subject: Re: All Fired Up on Halloween To: halloween-l@netcom.com Cc: halloween-l@netcom.com, lewisw@oasys.dt.navy.mil Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Well now... Definitely an impressive effect. ;) Did you tell people it was just the flames of Hell and not to worry, or did you panic once you saw what might have happened? (I would have panicked...) ------- Mark From owner-halloween-l Sun Dec 3 06:30:58 1995 From: TonyGJr@aol.com Date: Sat, 2 Dec 1995 14:40:47 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Keep the Halloween flame alive. Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: During the Halloween season I had seen a massive amount of posting. Now that Xmas is upon us, I see everyone unbsuscribe like mad and this is turtning into a ghost town. Can we PLEASE keep Halloween alive all year long? Thank you. Tony From owner-halloween-l Sun Dec 3 09:54:44 1995 From: TonyGJr@aol.com Date: Sat, 2 Dec 1995 14:37:21 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: All Fired Up on Halloween Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: For safety's sake, be careful around open flames or better yet, use the electric candle types instead. Also, it is a much better idea to use a central sound room with wires instead of tape recorders everywhere. Off my soapbox. a cute Idea I used one year for organ pipes was rolled up paper spray painted silver. all together into ranks, they looked fairly decent. At the time, I was about 14 though and would prefer metal pipes now instead.... Tony G. Halloween lives with me 365 days a year. From owner-halloween-l Mon Dec 4 15:57:13 1995 Date: Sun, 3 Dec 1995 13:42:50 -0700 (MST) To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: trix@primenet.com (Darlene Horwath) Subject: Fanning the flame Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: >To: halloween-l@netcom.com >From: trix@primenet.com (Darlene Horwath) >Subject: Fanning the flame >Cc: >Bcc: >X-Attachments: > >Halloween will stay alive and well on my website 365 days a year! >People are still asking for costume ideas! And gory food is always popular. > >I hope you all had a chance to visit "the graveyard". For those who didn't, I took all the great epitaphs that were posted out here, along with a photo of someone's graveyard from the halloween-l ftp site and voila! It turned out to an incredibly popular place for people to visit, and add their own suggestions. Since then, I have also added a Halloween play list, with suggestions that were posted out here. (Special thanks to you John...now I think everything is spelled right too) > >If anyone is in the mood to start working on more pages for next year...I'm all ears (no relation to Ross Perot)! Some suggestions I'v had are: > -Halloween and horror movies Page(already started) > -A tribute to Elvira > -A virtual maze > >LEt me know what you think... > >Trix > >>During the Halloween season I had seen a massive amount of posting. Now that >>Xmas is upon us, I see everyone unbsuscribe like mad and this is turtning >>into a ghost town. Can we PLEASE keep Halloween alive all year long? Thank >>you. >> >>Tony >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Is that a modem in your pocket or RU just happy 2C me! http://www.primenet.com/~trix/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-halloween-l Mon Dec 4 23:55:29 1995 Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 06:22:34 -0600 (CST) From: Alana Jordan To: halloween-l@netcom.com Cc: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Keep the Halloween flame alive. Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Is anyone else a big fan of THE NIGHTMARE BEFORE CHRISTMAS? I love that movie! I'm trying to give our Christmas decorating a little HALLOWEEN twist! Alana From owner-halloween-l Tue Dec 5 09:36:12 1995 From: RoboJay@aol.com Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 20:46:39 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Epitaphs Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: I'd like to see some of those epitaphs that were in your graveyard. Could you send me a list? Thanks. From owner-halloween-l Tue Dec 5 19:33:20 1995 From: Stuart_McIntire_at_AISDC@ccsmtp.uage.com Date: Mon, 04 Dec 95 09:25:12 EST To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: History of Pepper's Ghost Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: History of Pepper's Ghost Author: halloween-l@netcom.com at Internet Date: 11/29/95 11:38 AM Dave writes: (somewhat abbreviated): >Greetings. I am an amateur magician/illusion-designer... To the >best of my knowledge, here is how the "Pepper's Ghost" illusion came >about. >The illusion is named after John Henry Pepper, a chemistry professor at London Polytechnic Institute... >Pepper's presentation, though, was not the "original" design for >this illusion.... >In "Conjuring," James Randi specifically mentions Disney's use of >this principle in their haunted ballroom scene... >For further reading, some books (including those already mentioned) >on magic history which mention this illusion are: >Conjuring >by James Randi >ISBN 0-312-08634-2 >(C)opyright 1992 >Making Magic >by Edwin A. Dawes & Arthur Setterington >ISBN 1-85375-009-3 >(C)opyright 1992 >Our Magic >by Nevil Maskelyne & David Devant >(No ISBN Listed) >(C)opyright 1946 >(Not specifically about history, but it provides priceless >insight into the performers and principles of the day.) >The Illustrated History of Magic >by Milbourne Christopher >(Sorry, I don't know the ISBN or copyright because I don't have >this one in my personal library . . . yet.) >Sorry for the verbosity, but I don't like giving incomplete answers. >Hope that helps. Hi, Dave! No need to apologize for the lengthy response - it's exactly what I was hoping for (and it is indeed very helpful). I'll definitely look for the books...I'm an inveterate reader from way back (my wife might even say incorrigible :) I can't say I'm an aspiring magician, but at the same time I realize that all of us "haunters" could learn a trick or two when it comes to creating illusions... Thanks for an excellent response! - Stu [ stuart.mcintire@uage.com ] From owner-halloween-l Wed Dec 6 00:30:47 1995 From: RoboJay@aol.com Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 20:19:52 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Keep the Halloween flame alive. Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: In a message dated 95-12-05 03:22:40 EST, Alana wrote: >Is anyone else a big fan of THE NIGHTMARE BEFORE CHRISTMAS? I love that >movie! I'm trying to give our Christmas decorating a little HALLOWEEN >twist! What a teriffic idea! Skeletons, bats, witches, devils (instead of angels) and pumpkins on the tree! Orange and black along with red and green! Haul out your La Dia De Los Muertes (did I get that right?) decorations and hang some tinsel on them. Put a Santa cap on that skeleton. How about a reindeer skull as a decoration? Great way to scare religious nuts away from you house. From owner-halloween-l Wed Dec 6 17:40:18 1995 From: "BHendrsn@kirk.microsys.net" To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 01:37:00 +0000 Subject: Re: Keep the Halloween flame alive. Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Alana Jordan writes: > Is anyone else a big fan of THE NIGHTMARE BEFORE CHRISTMAS? I love that > movie! I'm trying to give our Christmas decorating a little HALLOWEEN > twist! Heh. I'm on the lookout for one of those life-size inflatable Santas (my old one exploded and cannot be repaired). I really do want to put Santa in a coffin or Santa with a chainsaw up on the roof one of these years. Just watch.. I'll do it too. ;) -Brian From owner-halloween-l Wed Dec 6 18:19:24 1995 From: LVDUDETTE@delphi.com Date: Mon, 04 Dec 1995 19:31:00 -0500 (EST) Subject: Holloween lives with me To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: I, for one, am not someone who forgets about Holloween during the rest of the year. In fact, I keep my eyes open for items to buy all the time. Just a few days ago, I found those strings of blacklights that was talked about at Spencers Gifts and bought them. I can't wait to use them! Can I use them for Christmas?????? I'll sure try!! :-) Keep the spirit(s) alive! |+|----------------------------------------------------------|+| |\| Leane Verhulst lvdudette@delphi.com |\| |\| |\| |\| Someone's at the door... Where are you Mulder? |\| |\| -American Gothic -X-Files |\| |+|----------------------------------------------------------|+| From owner-halloween-l Wed Dec 6 18:24:45 1995 Date: Tue, 5 Dec 1995 17:11:37 -0700 (MST) To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: trix@primenet.com (Darlene Horwath) Subject: Re: Epitaphs Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: The graveyard is at: http://www.primenet.com/~trix/gyard.htm >I'd like to see some of those epitaphs that were in your graveyard. Could you >send me a list? Thanks. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Is that a modem in your pocket or RU just happy 2C me! http://www.primenet.com/~trix/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-halloween-l Wed Dec 6 18:32:40 1995 Date: Mon, 04 Dec 1995 15:14:54 -0700 From: Lauren Jones To: m_franklin@cariboo.bc.ca Cc: halloween-l@netcom.com, lewisw@oasys.dt.navy.mil Subject: Re: All Fired Up on Halloween -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Mark Franklin 12/01/95 11:40am writes: > Well now... Definitely an impressive effect. ;) Did you tell people it > was just the flames of Hell and not to worry, or did you panic once > you saw what might have happened? (I would have panicked...) There was a lull in the visitors at the time, so it was just the insiders that got a look. Actually, it wasn't until later that I realized how serious the whole thing was. The next year, however, the theme was "A Visit to Hell"........ From owner-halloween-l Wed Dec 6 20:22:31 1995 Date: Mon, 4 Dec 95 07:10 PST To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: bdosfx@wimsey.com (Brian D. Oberquell) Subject: Organ pipes - another suggestion Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: RO X-Status: >a cute Idea I used one year for organ pipes was rolled up >paper spray painted silver. all together into ranks, they looked fairly >decent. At the time, I was about 14 though and would prefer metal pipes now >instead.... > >Tony G. I did a play that required a pipe organ with smoke coming from the pipes; I built a shell that a portable keyboard could be placed into (the audience couldn't see that it wasn't a 'real' organ being played) and used suitably painted PVC water pipe; it wasn't touching the smoke gen so there was no chance of it melting. Brian From owner-halloween-l Wed Dec 6 20:26:51 1995 From: roy.leblanc@nopc.org (Roy LeBlanc) Date: 03 Dec 95 20:20:10 -0600 Subject: Keeping the Halloween flame alive. To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: On (02 Dec 95) TonyGJr@aol.com wrote to the list... T > Can we PLEASE keep Halloween alive all year long? Thank you. We're doing our part here in New Orleans. I work for WWNO the local National Public Radio Affiliate. We run a program on Sunday nights for kids called 'Rabbit Ears Radio'. This is the first weekend in December and tonight's feature was "The Legend of Sleepy Hallow" as told by Meryl Streep. Say, anybody want to review "The Nightmare Before Christmas" and post it on BOTH lists. :-) -Roy LeBlanc -- |Fidonet: Roy LeBlanc 1:396/17.40 |Internet: roy.leblanc@nopc.org | | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own. From owner-halloween-l Wed Dec 6 21:14:28 1995 From: "BHendrsn@kirk.microsys.net" To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Sun, 3 Dec 1995 15:54:48 +0000 Subject: Re: Keep the Halloween flame alive. Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: > During the Halloween season I had seen a massive amount of posting. Now that > Xmas is upon us, I see everyone unbsuscribe like mad and this is turtning > into a ghost town. Can we PLEASE keep Halloween alive all year long? Thank > you. Hey, I'm not going anywhere. Does anyone know how many subscribers we had at the peak of the Halloween season as opposed to now? How much have we dropped? -Brian From owner-halloween-l Wed Dec 6 21:29:55 1995 From: "BHendrsn@kirk.microsys.net" To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Sun, 3 Dec 1995 15:54:51 +0000 Subject: Re: All Fired Up on Halloween Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: > For safety's sake, be careful around open flames or better yet, use the > electric candle types instead. Also, it is a much better idea to use a > central sound room with wires instead of tape recorders everywhere. Agreed. If nothing else, run a speaker from each tape recorder to the site. It's cheap, it's quick, and much safer than setting yourself on fire. ;) > Off my soapbox. a cute Idea I used one year for organ pipes was rolled up > paper spray painted silver. all together into ranks, they looked fairly > decent. At the time, I was about 14 though and would prefer metal pipes now > instead.... The last time we needed piping line that (it wasn't for a pipe organ, but the same general thing), we got various sized cardboard rolls and wrapped them with 1/16" metal sheeting with rivets in the back. Looks solid, very light, and quite effective. -Brian who has just finished his plans for a full-sized mahogany coffin for next year that will allow you to "vanish" (false back). Now... out to the shop! ;) From owner-halloween-l Wed Dec 6 21:36:16 1995 Date: Sun, 3 Dec 1995 13:42:48 -0700 (MST) To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: trix@primenet.com (Darlene Horwath) Subject: Fanning the flame Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Halloween will stay alive and well on my website 365 days a year! People are still asking for costume ideas! And gory food is always popular. I hope you all had a chance to visit "the graveyard". For those who didn't, I took all the great epitaphs that were posted out here, along with a photo of someone's graveyard from the halloween-l ftp site and voila! It turned out to an incredibly popular place for people to visit, and add their own suggestions. Since then, I have also added a Halloween play list, with suggestions that were posted out here. (Special thanks to you John...now I think everything is spelled right too) If anyone is in the mood to start working on more pages for next year...I'm all ears (no relation to Ross Perot)! Some suggestions I'v had are: -Halloween and horror movies Page(already started) -A tribute to Elvira -A virtual maze LEt me know what you think... Trix >During the Halloween season I had seen a massive amount of posting. Now that >Xmas is upon us, I see everyone unbsuscribe like mad and this is turtning >into a ghost town. Can we PLEASE keep Halloween alive all year long? Thank >you. > >Tony > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Is that a modem in your pocket or RU just happy 2C me! http://www.primenet.com/~trix/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-halloween-l Wed Dec 6 21:49:47 1995 Date: Sun, 3 Dec 1995 13:42:46 -0700 (MST) To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: trix@primenet.com (Darlene Horwath) Subject: Re: Keep the Halloween flame alive. Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Halloween will stay alive and well on my website 365 days a year! People are still asking for costume ideas! And gory food is always popular. I hope you all had a chance to visit "the graveyard". For those who didn't, I took all the great epitaphs that were posted out here, along with a photo of someone's graveyard from the halloween-l ftp site and voila! It turned out to an incredibly popular place for people to visit, and add their own suggestions. Since then, I have also added a Halloween play list, with suggestions that were posted out here. (Special thanks to you John...now I think everything is spelled right too) If anyone is in the mood to start working on more pages for next year...I'm all ears (no relation to Ross Perot)! Some suggestions I'v had are: -Halloween and horror movies Page(already started) -A tribute to Elvira -A virtual maze LEt me know what you think... Trix >During the Halloween season I had seen a massive amount of posting. Now that >Xmas is upon us, I see everyone unbsuscribe like mad and this is turtning >into a ghost town. Can we PLEASE keep Halloween alive all year long? Thank >you. > >Tony > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Is that a modem in your pocket or RU just happy 2C me! http://www.primenet.com/~trix/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-halloween-l Thu Dec 7 13:00:02 1995 From: "BHendrsn@kirk.microsys.net" To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 17:18:33 +0000 Subject: Re: Keep the Halloween flame alive. Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: > In a message dated 95-12-05 03:22:40 EST, Alana wrote: > > >Is anyone else a big fan of THE NIGHTMARE BEFORE CHRISTMAS? I love that > >movie! I'm trying to give our Christmas decorating a little HALLOWEEN > >twist! > > What a teriffic idea! Skeletons, bats, witches, devils (instead of angels) > and pumpkins on the tree! Orange and black along with red and green! Haul out > your La Dia De Los Muertes (did I get that right?) decorations and hang some > tinsel on them. Put a Santa cap on that skeleton. How about a reindeer skull > as a decoration? > > Great way to scare religious nuts away from you house. Sheesh, now I *KNOW* I'm going to have to do it! ;) -Brian From owner-halloween-l Sat Dec 9 03:25:15 1995 Date: Fri, 8 Dec 1995 08:54:58 -0800 From: bobbyr@ix.netcom.com (Bobby Rosenberger ) Subject: X-10 question... To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Where the heck can I get one! I've been hearing about them and have asked before but haven't gotten any response... Does anyone have anymore info one them? I have seen 'Plug and Play' or something like that at Radio Shack that can control lights etc, with your computer, is that the same thing? Thanks, Bobby R. From owner-halloween-l Sat Dec 9 03:50:16 1995 Date: Fri, 8 Dec 1995 06:29:14 -0800 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: "D.D." Subject: RE: Pepper's Ghost Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Another book detailing the "Pepper's Ghost" type effect is The Encyclopedia Of Stage Illusions by Burling Hull, I.S.B.N. #0-915926-22-9, copyright 1980. This $100.00 (15 years ago) book was originally limited to only 500 copies and I have no idea if it was ever reprinted by Magic Limited. The book contains 220 stage illusions in various degrees of detail. Denny From owner-halloween-l Sun Dec 10 03:37:56 1995 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Mitch Maulik Subject: Re: X-10 question... Date: Sat, 9 Dec 1995 07:27:52 -0700 Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Hi Bobby, I got mine at the Worthington Group, Ltd, which was a suggestion from someone on this newsgroup. I talked to Rich as recommended, later finding out he is the boss. They are VERY helpful and knowledgeable, I just could not get to them to ask these questions over the weekend. Their prices are also VERY good. If you look at someones elses post here a while back I think they had 40% off list while most others had 20-25% off. I bought the Universal URC-3000 command Center ($23.95 I think) and the On-For-All 4005 remote ($23.75). I got it shipped to me, clear out here in WYOMING....for $7.00....2nd day Federal Express! I will definately be using them more than the other sources I have for X-10! Their phone number is 1-717-226-8864. Tell Rich I sent you. I have absolutely no affilliation with Worthington, just an X-10 hacker out here that was VERY satisfyed with their products and service. OH..by the way I got the help I needed to operate the X-10 stuff and it is GREAT!!! Just in time for Christmas too. I think it would also be great for Halloween. Well I am no expert, but I will answer any other questions you have, if I know the answer. Feel free to E-mail me anytime. Take care and good luck! Happy Holidays! <>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<> <> Mitch Maulik Wyoming is more than a State.... <> <> E-Mail: mmaulik@wyoming.com It's a State of Mind...... <> <> http://www.wyoming.com/~maulik/ <> <> S-Mail: 840 Rainbow Drive <> <> Riverton, WY 82501-2829 <> <>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<>><<> From owner-halloween-l Sun Dec 10 13:08:06 1995 Date: Sat, 9 Dec 1995 22:21:30 GMT To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Mark & Cheryl Subject: theremin Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: It was through this group that I was introduced to theremin music. I checked out the web page and recognized the strange sounds. Did you hear about the documentary called "Thermin: An Electronic Odyssey" that won the Filmmakers Trophy at Sundance? It was in our Friday's paper. From owner-halloween-l Tue Dec 12 18:43:30 1995 Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 20:07:04 +0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: grizelda@astral.magic.ca ('Greysting' [Ron Orr]) Subject: Hallowe'en in December Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Keep forgetting to mention this, as the thread's been going for a bit now. A few years ago we wanted to decorate our Christmas tree a little differently; nothing overt, just a few odd details. One of the things we did was to print up some skulls on the laser printer, cut them out, colour them, and hang them from the tree. Our daughter went wild over the idea and did them all herself in an afternoon. Now she has a little sister, so we're going to run off another sheet or two (24 to a sheet) for her. So now it's a tradition. :) Hmm...wonder if we should replace those old angels with bats... Ron Ho, Ho, Ho My Foot From owner-halloween-l Thu Dec 14 11:08:56 1995 Date: Sun, 10 Dec 1995 22:44:39 +0100 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: przybyla@epix.net (kevin Przybyla) Subject: Longer Lasting Fog Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: I have been using the standard liquid for my fog machine.The problem is the fog dissipates too quickly.Is there anything I can add to the standard liquid to extend the life of the fog?? Thanks to all who respond. Kevin :) From owner-halloween-l Thu Dec 14 11:11:57 1995 Date: Mon, 11 Dec 1995 08:16:32 -0500 From: dallan@dow.com (D.S. Allan, Dow Chemical) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: X-10 question... Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: The Plug and Play thing at Radio Shack is the same as X-10. There is a lot of discussion of X-10 in the comp.home.automation newsgroup, if you can get to Usenet news. If not, I'll send you the FAQ on your request. Regards, David -------------- >From: SMTP%"halloween-l@netcom.com" 9-DEC-1995 07:07 >To: halloween-l@netcom.com >CC: >Subj: X-10 question... > >Where the heck can I get one! I've been hearing about them and have >asked before but haven't gotten any response... Does anyone have >anymore info one them? I have seen 'Plug and Play' or something like >that at Radio Shack that can control lights etc, with your computer, is >that the same thing? > >Thanks, > >Bobby R. From owner-halloween-l Thu Dec 14 11:18:30 1995 From: "BHendrsn@kirk.microsys.net" To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Sun, 10 Dec 1995 02:35:24 +0000 Subject: Re: All Fired Up on Halloween Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: > >-Brian > > who has just finished his plans for a full-sized mahogany coffin > >for next year that will allow you to "vanish" (false back). Now... > >out to the shop! ;) > > > So do we are the coffin plans available? Well, the plans are on paper at the moment, but I can probably convert to ASCII or GIF or something and make them available if there is a demand. I really went at this wanting to make a real, solid coffin that will probably weigh 150+ lbs when finished. No more of the cheesy cardboard/pressboard/whatever coffins that have to be reconstructed every year, this is a woodworker's masterpiece that will probably end up with brass fittings and the whole thing (if I can either find commercially available brass fittings or can talk a coffin manufacturer out of some). -Brian From owner-halloween-l Fri Dec 15 12:25:50 1995 Subject: Re: Longer Lasting Fog To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 15:31:48 -0500 (EST) From: "Nathan Kahn" Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: > > I have been using the standard liquid for my fog machine.The problem is the > fog dissipates too quickly.Is there anything I can add to the standard > liquid to extend the life of the fog?? > Thanks to all who respond. > Kevin :) > According to my headers screen, netcom sat on this message for 4 days. Ridiculous! The answer -- no, sorry. Okay, wait. If your question is, "is there something I can add to extend the life of the fog, that will still give me something that is guaranteed safe to breathe?" Then the answer is no. If the question is "is there something I can add, that will still give me fog that is *probably* safe to breathe, but not 100% guaranteed?", then the answer would be -- try adding just a little glycerin. You can buy it at a drug store. Glycerin will generally make fog thicker and longer-lasting, and most machines burn cool enough that glycerin will not create harmful byproducts, but glycerin *will* add to the "clog" factor. i.e. machines that use fog fluid containing glycerin clog up faster than machines that don't, which is why most manufacturers have taken glycerin out of their formulas. Nathan nathan@theatrefx.com sent on Thursday 12/14 at 3:30 pm Eastern time From owner-halloween-l Fri Dec 15 12:55:10 1995 Date: Tue, 5 Dec 95 10:23 PST From: glenn@gcrocker.sj.scruznet.com (Glenn Crocker) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: ...then one FOGGY Christmas Eve... Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: My in-laws, after hearing that the fog machine I ordered for Halloween had finally arrived (NEVER use the US Postal Service for packages. I tried to get the vendor to use UPS, but they wouldn't. They do now, after waiting more than a month for their COD money. ;-), asked my wife if I'd been trying to figure out how to incorporate it with our Christmas decorations. Naturally, I've been trying like hell to figure out how to chunk the fog up to make snow, or _anything_ to use this wonderous device before next Halloween. Well, they had the excellent idea of putting a Rudolph reindeer out on the front lawn and blowing fog all around him. "Then one foggy Christmas Eve, Santa came to say, Rudolph with your nose so bright (hmmmm, strobe light? Laser?) Won't you guide my sleigh tonight?" Muahahahahaha! The fog machine is pretty cool. It's an American DJ "FogHog" (has a lovely graphic of a pig with fog coming out its nose on the side. ;-). It has a 700 watt heater, about a 5 minute heating time for 1 minute of fog, and claims 6000 ft^3 of fog per minute. The only problem with it is that I really want _ground_ fog, not up-in-the-air fog. Others have suggested cooling the fog down with dry ice or somesuch, so I think I'll try that. I'm also planning to use a plastic trash can with a fan attached to it as a "flow regulator", so I can get fog while the machine is heating up. The fog juice stinks a bit, smells like smoke, but if I can get it to hug the ground better, that won't matter. Any ideas on how to get fog machine fog to become ground fog would be very much appreciated. -glenn From owner-halloween-l Fri Dec 15 14:52:04 1995 Date: Fri, 15 Dec 1995 14:43:24 -0800 (PST) From: Don Bertino To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: ...then one FOGGY Christmas Eve... (fwd) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: On Fri, 15 Dec 1995, Glenn Crocker wrote: > It took over 10 days for this message to get through Netcom's mailer. > Bizarre. This one's my fault. His eamil address is differant then his subscribed address. It bounced into my "approve" folder which I did not check for ten days. *slap* *slap* Sorry. don bertino@netcom.com ____/^\_____________________________________ Disney ascii art & / \ || FDC MCP || / \ animations are at <______\ [] [] [] || [] [] [] || [] [] [] /______> ftp.netcom.com ======\----------------||----------||----------------/=== /pub/be/bertino========\______________||__________||______________/===== From owner-halloween-l Sat Dec 16 12:30:17 1995 From: Stuart_McIntire_at_AISDC@ccsmtp.uage.com Date: Fri, 15 Dec 95 16:50:03 EST To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: ...then one FOGGY Christmas Eve... Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: ...then one FOGGY Christmas Eve... Author: halloween-l@netcom.com at Internet Date: 12/5/95 10:23 AM Glenn writes: (abbreviated) >Well, they had the excellent idea of putting a Rudolph reindeer out on >the front lawn and blowing fog all around him. >"Then one foggy Christmas Eve, >Santa came to say, >Rudolph with your nose so bright (hmmmm, strobe light? Laser?) >Won't you guide my sleigh tonight?" <...LOVE it!...> >Any ideas on how to get fog machine fog to become ground fog would be >very much appreciated. I've seen a converted Coleman cooler used. Cut a hole in each end of the cooler and attach dryer vent hoses (something small- er would probably work better) - one for input, one for out- put. Fill the cooler with dry ice, hook the hose to the fog- ger and away you go! - Stu [ stuart.mcintire@uage.com ] From owner-halloween-l Sun Dec 17 12:53:22 1995 Date: Sun, 17 Dec 1995 02:22:21 -0700 (MST) From: Arlea Anschutz To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: theremin Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: I was playing "Bladerdash" (aka "the dictionary game") with my gaming group tonight and the word _theremin_ came up. I knew the defintion of the word due to my subscription to this list. Consequently, I won the game. There's one reason to stay subscribed after Halloween! ****************************************************************************** Arlea Anschu"tz Hige sceal the heardra anschutz@ucsu.colorado.edu Heorte the cenre |\ Mod sceal the mare |\ The ure maegen lytlath | --Bryhtwold, 10 August 991 ****************************************************************************** From owner-halloween-l Tue Dec 19 01:05:26 1995 Date: Mon, 18 Dec 1995 07:06:27 -0800 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: "D.D." Subject: RE: Then One "heavy" foggy... Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Stuart mentioned using dry ice in a beer cooler to cool down your fog to keep it low lying. Stu is exactly correct in his advice. I've also found that just using 10 or 20 pounds of regular ice in a cooler will work fine and is a lot cheaper. Part of the secret to getting heavy fog from a fog machine is not only cooling the fog but to use a fog juice that has a fairly short hang time. With a short hang the fog will dissipate as it warms and rises. Theatre Effects sells a fog juice (Their "LMX"??) just for this purpose. Also- using a short hang time fog juice with little or no water content helps conserve ice. If your fogging outside, any type of breeze will spoil the effect of low fog. Happy Holidays, Denny From owner-halloween-l Tue Dec 19 03:28:11 1995 From: Stuart_McIntire_at_AISDC@ccsmtp.uage.com Date: Mon, 18 Dec 95 12:07:51 EST To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: The Holiday Season Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: I'd like to wish my fellow compatriots a very Happy Holiday - be it Christmas, Hanukkah, Kwanzaa or what have you. You're a great bunch who haven't failed to amuse or educate and for that, I'm grateful. Be good and be careful - there are crazies out there (yes, besides us Halloween nuts). Stay safe and stay warm! - Stu [ stuart.mcintire@uage.com ] From owner-halloween-l Thu Dec 21 12:47:38 1995 Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 12:37:12 -0800 (PST) From: Don Bertino To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Hi all! Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Hi! I just wanted to say Merry Christmas to all and a Happy New Year. May all your wishs (and Halloween decoration designs) come true (and are finally built) this year. :) don bertino@netcom.com ____/^\_____________________________________ Disney ascii art & / \ || FDC MCP || / \ animations are at <______\ [] [] [] || [] [] [] || [] [] [] /______> ftp.netcom.com ======\----------------||----------||----------------/=== /pub/be/bertino========\______________||__________||______________/===== From owner-halloween-l Thu Dec 21 14:31:17 1995 From: revcoal@pcnet.com Date: Wed, 20 Dec 1995 19:36:19 -0800 Subject: Re: The Holiday Season To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 18 Dec 95, Stuart_McIntire_at_AISDC@ccsmtp.uage.com wrote: >I'd like to wish my fellow compatriots a very Happy Holiday - be it >Christmas, Hanukkah, Kwanzaa or what have you. > >You're a great bunch who haven't failed to amuse or educate and for that, >I'm grateful. > >Be good and be careful - there are crazies out there (yes, besides us >Halloween nuts). Stay safe and stay warm! Did anyone catch the Ellen DeGeneres show tonite? Her parent's gave her a cemetery plot as a Christmas gift, and she and her coworkers/friends end up spending Christmas Eve at the cemetary, decorating tombstones. Reminded me of this list! \|/ Best wishes for a --O-- /|\ MAGICAL HOLIDAY //|\\ ///|\\\ and a ////|\\\\ /////|\\\\\ HEALTHY and HAPPY O O ||| O O __|||__ NEW YEAR! Donna J. Logan ;-> From owner-halloween-l Sun Dec 31 05:55:43 1995 From: Stuart_McIntire_at_AISDC@ccsmtp.uage.com Date: Wed, 27 Dec 95 11:41:25 EST To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: What Was In Your Stocking? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Now that the holidays are winding down, I'm curious...what gift did you get (or receive) that applies to the Halloween holiday? I didn't get anything to use at Halloween, But I did give my wife a CD player for Christmas. Yes, believe it or not, the McIntires are finally in the 20th century (just in time for the 21st!) :) Now I've gotta go get all the good music and sound effects on CD that I've got on tape...just what I needed - a gift that will continue to cost me for years to come! So, what did you get? - Stu [ stuart.mcintire@uage.com ] From owner-halloween-l Sun Dec 31 17:47:40 1995 Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 09:27:14 -0700 (MST) To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: trix@primenet.com (Darlene Horwath) Subject: Re: What Was In Your Stocking? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: >Now that the holidays are winding down, I'm curious...what gift did you get >(or receive) that applies to the Halloween holiday? I got a halloween karaoke sing along tape, and 3 dozen black candles!!! I guess I really have some strange friends, huh? How about anybody else???? Trix a/k/a Dar From owner-halloween-l Tue Jan 2 15:17:42 1996 Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 14:58:33 -0800 (PST) From: Don Bertino To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: What Was In Your Stocking? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: On Sun, 31 Dec 1995, D.D. wrote: Hi Denny and All! > Good idea, my wife and daughter gave me a full size human skeleton prop for > next year. This now gives me three to work with. The rest of Christmas was > very traditional, I seem to be the only one in the family getting body parts > as gifts. I got a 16" scrow saw, yahoooooo! And orders to make twenty differant patterns..... for my wife :) How many sunflowers and watermelons can you cut out before you pass out???? :) So, I got a expresso machine, with a frother? (Steams the milk, I am still learning) It puts out sooo much steam that I have to use it outside for Halloween. :) I mean Cafe Mochas and more fog (steam), how can I lose? :) :) So I have set a goal of doing one project a month for Halloween/Christmas. Let's give it a try. don bertino@netcom.com ____/^\_____________________________________ Disney ascii art & / \ || FDC MCP || / \ animations are at <______\ [] [] [] || [] [] [] || [] [] [] /______> ftp.netcom.com ======\----------------||----------||----------------/=== /pub/be/bertino========\______________||__________||______________/===== From zeitler@bnlls1.nsls.bnl.gov Tue Jan 2 20:46:22 1996 Date: Tue, 02 Jan 1996 23:49:04 -0500 From: "Edward J. Zeitler" To: owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re:What Was In Your Stocking? Status: O X-Status: Stu wrote: >Now that the holidays are winding down, I'm curious...what gift did you get >(or receive) that applies to the Halloween holiday? As far as Halloween related stuff goes my wife got me Gremlins II on LD, and a resin kit of Doctor Phibes with both normal (semi anyway) and deformed heads. This was a nice suprise because the Phibes movies are my favorite Vincent Price flicks. -- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Edward J. Zeitler + Keep your worries behind you, + + zeitler@bnlls1.nsls.bnl.gov + so you can see what's before you. -Nektar + +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-halloween-l Wed Jan 3 08:26:30 1996 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 08:23:32 -0800 (PST) From: Don Bertino To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: What Was In Your Stocking? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 2 Jan 1996, BHendrsn@microsys.net wrote: > Don Bertino wrote: > > I got a 16" scrow saw, yahoooooo! And orders to make twenty differant > > patterns..... for my wife :) How many sunflowers and watermelons can > > you cut out before you pass out???? :) > > Ha! As a fellow woodworker, I rather envy you. Of course, I > couldn't fit a 16" scrollsaw in my shop so I shouldn't complain. ;) > > So, what scary stuff are you going to carve for everyone? I am not sure yet. Stuff for the graveyard for sure. :) Actually January will be the month I try to build Scott's/Denny's Homemade Spider web maker/spinner. :) don bertino@netcom.com ____/^\_____________________________________ Disney ascii art & / \ || FDC MCP || / \ animations are at <______\ [] [] [] || [] [] [] || [] [] [] /______> ftp.netcom.com ======\----------------||----------||----------------/=== /pub/be/bertino========\______________||__________||______________/===== From owner-halloween-l Wed Jan 3 08:46:31 1996 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 08:37:36 -0800 (PST) From: Don Bertino To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: halloween-l archives moved Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Hi all! I just wanted to let everyone know that the halloween-l archives have moved to http://ftp.calweb.com/~bertino Thanks! don bertino@netcom.com ____/^\_____________________________________ Disney ascii art & / \ || FDC MCP || / \ animations are at <______\ [] [] [] || [] [] [] || [] [] [] /______> ftp.netcom.com ======\----------------||----------||----------------/=== /pub/be/bertino========\______________||__________||______________/===== From TFG96@uno.cc.geneseo.edu Tue Nov 14 10:29:32 1995 From: TFG96@uno.cc.geneseo.edu Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 13:32:04 -0500 (EST) Subject: signing off To: owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Hello, I am having trouble signing off this list (halloween-l), would you please help me. Thank you, Tom Gigliotti TFG96@uno.cc.geneseo.edu From owner-halloween-l Tue Nov 14 19:17:39 1995 Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 23:02:38 +0500 To: Lauren Jones From: grizelda@astral.magic.ca ('Greysting' [Ron Orr]) Subject: Cheap Decorating Cc: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Thanks for the ideas. We've done some of them (couldn't find our gravestones for some reason) but that skeleton idea is great! Gotta try it next year - seems _so_ far away right now, doesn't it? Ron Addams Family Wannabe From owner-halloween-l Wed Nov 15 00:09:54 1995 Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 06:40:30 -0500 (EST) From: "Donna J. Logan" To: "D.D." Cc: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Post halloween Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 13 Nov 1995, D.D. wrote: > Thankfully you're not the only person on this list with tears > in their eyes asking "why can't everyday be Halloween?". > Even as I type, my wonderful skulls and spiders are being > replaced by cute Christmas decorations. My offer to put a > white beard and a Santa hat on the flying ghost was only > met with stern silence. It'll be up to us to keep the list alive > despite the jolliness and warm feelings of the upcoming > season. Well, maybe you could have more success suggesting a flying angel instead.... according to the Bible, the Angel Of The Lord was always terrifying, definitely not a cute cherub (or a jolly old elf like Santa...)...it was never specified exactly what was so terrifying about the AOTL, so it could be open to interpretation...... ...I can see it now: Armeggedon Christmas...... ;-> From owner-halloween-l Wed Nov 15 00:50:26 1995 Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 04:05:27 -0700 From: Lauren Jones To: grizelda@astral.magic.ca, halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re[2]: Being humbled at Halloween decorating -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: >>> 'Greysting' [Ron Orr] 11/08/95 01:02pm >>> I'm looking forward to collecting ideas for next year. I help decorate the town library each year for the Hallowe'en Ghost Walk & am always looking for low-cost scary decorating ideas. Sure wish we could afford some of the Big Special Effects, though. (*sigh*) ================== We through up a 3-room haunted house to benefit a daycare center here and got it together in about 2 or 3 days with very little cost and people raved. I don't go the horror route at all, I'm "traditional" ;-) One of our little scenes was a graveyard with bare trees made of dead branches pulled out of the woods outside the building, covered boxes inscribed with epitaphs, and floating/walking skeletons that appeared out of nowhere. To make the skeletons look real (not just bouncing from the ceiling with a string), I told them to dress all in black including gloves, then put black hoods over their heads and attached those hard, flat, phosphorescent plastic skeletons to the front of them around their necks. The legs were loosely attached and the actors held the skeletons' arms at the edges and waved them and reached out to people. Even when you knew how it was done, you could not *see* how it was done! You can't imagine how effective this simply little trick is until you've seen it. I had the skeletons appear and disappear into thin air by having the actors cross their arms in front of them and turn their backs to the "audience." The trick to this is to make it absolutely black behind, around, and beneath the skeletons (the ceiling isn't crucial unless there's too much reflection from it). Stretchy spiderwebs and a yellow fluorescent circle for a moon taped up in the back completed the scene. From owner-halloween-l Wed Nov 15 21:11:49 1995 From: "BHendrsn@kirk.microsys.net" To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 09:40:48 +0000 Subject: Re: Re[2]: Post halloween Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: > Welll...we can always pull out our copies of Nightmare Before > Christmas for a more gradual seasonal transition, can't we? Done and done. ;) > Sidebar: You probably noticed the door that was left wide open > for sequels related to holidays throughout the year...when Jack > Skellington "discovered" the doorway to Christmas Town, he was > in the woods where on the trees were painted images of an Easter > Egg, a turkey, etc. Willl Jack and Company soon be visiting us > throughout the year?...Only time will tell! Unfortunately, Nightmare Before Christmas didn't make enough money for a whole string of them and was quite a bit of work to boot. I think I remember seeing somewhere that the production work on NBC was close to two years, which is incredible in today's production schedules. -Brian From owner-halloween-l Wed Nov 15 21:56:06 1995 From: Stuart_McIntire_at_AISDC@ccsmtp.uage.com Date: Tue, 14 Nov 95 11:05:47 EST To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re[4]: strobe light advice Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Re[2]: strobe light advice Author: halloween-l@netcom.com at Internet Date: 11/14/95 10:18 AM Jay answers (my questions deleted for brevity): >Yep, just splice into the cord that you plug into the wall and install your >switch.. Make SURE that it is the cord that carryes the 120 volt power, not >the 1000Plus trigger part of the strobe >Well first off you cant dim any type of Florcsent bulb, unless the >transformer is made for that purpuse.. That being means that those nice >screw in mini power saveing blubs they sell at the store, CAN NOT be >dimmed.. Nor can you dim any type of Halagne track lighting, or Halagen >light. Unless again the transformer is made for this. Most home kits are not >made this way. You cant dim a stobe light. Well you can but it invovles >fooling with alot of High Power stuff and electronics. So if you need to dim >a strobe, then the best bet is to go buy one that comes that way.. {I think >there about 200$ these days} >Basicly if the light you want to dim has a Transformer powering it you cant >dim it. Unless again the Transformer is made for this.. Also, those >transformer arnt too cheap. Other than that just make sure the Dimmer you >use is rated for the wattage of what your trying to dim. >As for the question of a dimmer switch on a cord. Well heck they might sell >it. If not you can just make one. Take a Dimmer like you would put on your >wall, the kind that lets you dim all the way, mount it in a box and then >connect your cord going to the wall into the box and the dimmer. Then go from >the dimmer in the box to your lamp. >Hmm, well you can buy a two way switch. So I would think that you could buy a >Two Way dimmer. Only thing is that it wouldnt work the right way. What you >really need is a Cross Fader. I know that most light boards have them. {Then >agian they cost into the thousnds} I guess the best way to do it is to get >two dimmers and to steady hands and just do it by dimming one up and useing >your other hand dim the other out. Thanks, Jay! Great advice...as you suspected, I don't really want or need to spend a fortune to accomplish the effects I'd like. And if I ever con- jure up the patience, I'll make an attempt to do an ASCII sketch of the effect that I need to use two dimmers for - it just won't be anytime soon. - Stu [ stuart.mcintire@uage.com ] From owner-halloween-l Fri Nov 17 13:28:41 1995 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 95 07:46:12 EST To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: lewisw@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Bill Lewis) Subject: Reply post test Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: This is a test, I replied to a couple of posts on Monday and I haven't seen them come back on the mailing list. So ignore this one. Bill lewisw@oasys.dt.navy.mil You can beat a dead horse, but you can't make him drink. Even a blind nut gets a squirrel every once in awhile. If it's fixed, don't break it. Measure once, Cut twice. From owner-halloween-l Fri Nov 17 13:29:42 1995 From: alt@ixstar.att.com (Arthur Louis Todesco +1 +1 708 979 1120) Date: Wed, 15 Nov 95 07:26:56 CST To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Here's a unique idea Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: A friend of mine has been adding a few things each year at Halloween. This year besides the computer playing his real pipe organ when someone comes to the door, and the air-driven pop-up ghost (as I have described previously), he added an air driven piston to the screen door. When a person would come up to the door, he would have the air sloooowly open the screen door. Of course the organ was already playing. Art From owner-halloween-l Fri Nov 17 17:09:02 1995 Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 15:29:58 -0700 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com, bhayes@student.umass.edu Subject: Terror on Church Street -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: 11/15/95 12:01pm writes: > Has anyone been to Spooky World in Berlin, MA? This is > "America's Horror Theme Park". I havn't had a chance to > go yet, but it is supposidly really great! I have a short video on it--looks like a lot of fun! They do hayrides as well... Apparently, there're a number of attractions in and around Hershey, PA. When I get the chance, I'll post them. From owner-halloween-l Fri Nov 17 17:41:54 1995 From: Michael Worth To: "'halloween-l@netcom.com'" Subject: RE: Terror on Church Street Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 17:36:15 -0700 Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: ------ =_NextPart_000_01BAB381.554135C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >>>Has anyone gone to Terror on Church Street in Downtown Orlando? That = has got to be one of the scariest Haunted Houses I have even been in<<< Been there, done that. LOVED every minute of it. Wish I could go = tomorrow! 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Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Just thought I'd share the note that came in the mail yesterday. It was a thank you note from someone we don't know from several blocks away. It said: Our family took your Halloween "tour" & loved it. It was clever scary, the kids were thrilled. Thank you for the time & expense it must have taken. Kinda made it all worth while, except we all know that we do it cause we like to. Art Todesco From owner-halloween-l Sat Nov 18 08:30:27 1995 Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 04:27:56 -0700 From: Lauren Jones To: djc@cc.UManitoba.CA, halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Tombstone addendum -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: My favorite tombstone in my cemetery was/is: I TOLD YOU I WAS SICK It's old, but it gets a chuckle! From owner-halloween-l Sun Nov 19 00:56:59 1995 Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 20:17:07 -0700 (MST) To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: trix@primenet.com (Darlene Horwath) Subject: Re: Terror on Church Street -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: They started a Spooky World West in Minneapolis this year, and I went the first weekend. It is located on about 80 acres, in a restored prairie village. The site was perfect for Halloween fun and foolery. The attractions were good (not great, yet). There was a hanuted house done by Tom Savini with some pretty decent special effects, a hayride with lots of stops for scary scenes and skits by live actors, a mini-midway with halloween theme games, roving ghouls and goblins, photo opportunities in a coffin, the Munstermobile, a costume and gift shop with alot of costume supplies, scaryoke hosted bu Tiny Tim and Bobby "Borris" Pickett and a chance to meet various vamps and horror movie stars. I was fortunate enough to meet Elvira and Lyrch. I also took several pictures, which will be posted in my Halloween-O-Webbery scrapbook...sometime before next year! All in all, we had a pretty good time. And to make it even better we won the tickets to boot! ($14.00 each otherwise) Happy post-hallomortem Trix a/k/a Dar > 11/15/95 12:01pm writes: > >> Has anyone been to Spooky World in Berlin, MA? This is >> "America's Horror Theme Park". I havn't had a chance to >> go yet, but it is supposidly really great! > >I have a short video on it--looks like a lot of fun! They do >hayrides as well... > >Apparently, there're a number of attractions in and around >Hershey, PA. When I get the chance, I'll post them. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Is that a modem in your pocket or RU just happy 2C me! http://www.primenet.com/~trix/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-halloween-l Mon Nov 20 02:59:01 1995 Date: Sun, 19 Nov 1995 05:12:43 -0800 From: milwiron@ix.netcom.com (D.D. ) Subject: Re: Reply post test To: lewisw@oasys.dt.navy.mil Cc: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: You wrote: >This is a test, I replied to a couple of posts on Monday and I haven't >seen them come back on the mailing list. >So ignore this one. Hi Bill, Don't feel like the Lone Ranger, about half the mail I send to the list is getting lost now. I've cc'd this to the list, we'll see if it shows. I sent a complaint to Netcom's support services on 10-20 and got a reply from them on 11-17. They replied "the problem has been fixed". Denny 11-19 From owner-halloween-l Mon Nov 20 03:33:40 1995 Date: Sun, 19 Nov 1995 16:50:41 +0000 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: "Gary (Howling Spirit)" Subject: Re: Hmm Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: >AGH! I have to talk to this man.! Will he be able to hear you??? >7000 watts of stearo power!! Next thing you will tell me is that he had 500 >subwoofers that did a really good Earthquake simulation! Methinks... if he has 500 subwoofers and the power to drive them, it wouldn't just be a simulation, wouldn't it CAUSE the REAL THING????? From owner-halloween-l Mon Nov 20 16:07:47 1995 From: TonyGJr@aol.com Date: Sun, 19 Nov 1995 16:00:32 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Re[2]: strobe light advice Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: On dual ganging dimmers, you can try buying 2 dimmers then rewiring them to a stereo potentiometer with the two pots wired opposing :) That would make a great controller for such effects like paintings that change their picture by lighting, or making a horro room behind a cheesecloth type of painting... From owner-halloween-l Mon Nov 20 16:45:30 1995 From: TonyGJr@aol.com Date: Sun, 19 Nov 1995 16:06:09 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Re[2]: Being humbled at Halloween decorating Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Ron, the best bet is to look into this killer newsgroup. It's much more fun to "roll your own" special effects instead of spending megabucks on things. Little tricks can do good things. For example, here's one I've used for years: Wire 2 LEDs together with a serial resistor of about 1K. Wire this whole shebang into a 9V battery clip. Tape up the connections, make sure you uise bright LEDs. They make great eyes peering out from bushes or dark places... From owner-halloween-l Tue Nov 21 03:10:42 1995 From: Stuart_McIntire_at_AISDC@ccsmtp.uage.com Date: Mon, 20 Nov 95 09:03:08 EST To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re[2]: Reply post test Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Hi all, In response to the problem Bill and Denny have experienced, I can say that I've now probably seen the missing messages (Monday Nov. 20th). Both Bill and Denny had replies to my inquiries re: dimmers and were frustrated about not seeing the posts. I can relate! About 4 to 6 weeks ago, I had replied to various posts and never saw them come back. It's a shame - I had some great input, but I'm not sure everyone saw them. Anyway, both Bill and Denny have been kind enough to reply directly to my E-Mail address in the past on various topics and this not only makes a good way of making sure I see their replies, but also made a great way for me to get to know them a little better. I tend to like the personal touch, but I also understand the importance of everyone seeing the feedback. Keep plugging away guys (and gals), persistence pays off! - Stu [ stuart.mcintire@uage.com ] ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Reply post test Author: halloween-l@netcom.com at Internet Date: 11/20/95 6:32 AM You wrote: >This is a test, I replied to a couple of posts on Monday and I haven't >seen them come back on the mailing list. >So ignore this one. Hi Bill, Don't feel like the Lone Ranger, about half the mail I send to the list is getting lost now. I've cc'd this to the list, we'll see if it shows. I sent a complaint to Netcom's support services on 10-20 and got a reply from them on 11-17. They replied "the problem has been fixed". Denny 11-19 From owner-halloween-l Fri Nov 24 13:38:30 1995 Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 00:31:25 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Franklin Subject: Re: Mausoleum on the Cheap! To: halloween-l@netcom.com Cc: lewisw@oasys.dt.navy.mil Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 21 Nov 1995, Lauren Jones wrote: > through the mausoleum, a glowing > "Twilight Zone" logo lit up the picture > window, and that was the year I > caught on fire (no injuries). Do tell how that happened... :) Sounds like a really effective special effect. -------- Mark Franklin m_franklin@cariboo.bc.ca From owner-halloween-l Fri Nov 24 19:19:23 1995 Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 05:35:27 -0800 From: milwiron@ix.netcom.com (D.D. ) Subject: Re: Post halloween/Theremins To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: You wrote: >Nice little Theremin group. I was wondering if there was a schematic for a >modern version using easy to find op amps and off the shelf parts? If >you or anyone could make draw a schematic up and FTP site, it can help >spread the notoriety... :) Hi Tony, Check out for a ton of Theremin info and links to sites that offer plans. I've checked the plans myself and decided not to hassle with the "coil hunt" so I bought one of the first kits shipped from PAiA. The address above has my very short review of the kit and its' sound qualities. Denny From owner-halloween-l Sat Nov 25 00:42:13 1995 Date: Fri, 24 Nov 95 15:06 PST To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: rbradvica@covina.lightside.com (R. Bradvica) Subject: Re[2]: Strobe advice, 2nd. try Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: > BTW, as I think I mentioned previously, I learned this effect > from a book bought many moons ago titled How To Run A Financially > Successful Haunted House by Phillip Morris. great book! we've gotten lot's of great ideas for our haunted house. including the effect discussed previously in this thread. > > *** An aside to Bill Lewis *** > > Bill, if we do the haunted house next year, we HAVE to find > a way to make this work! the area must be kept very dark and you need a LARGE piece of glass. > > - Stu [ stuart.mcintire@uage.com ] robert rbradvica@lightside.com From owner-halloween-l Sat Nov 25 01:02:32 1995 From: Ldwarf@aol.com Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 16:41:58 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: How To Run A Financially Successful Haunted House Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: hi all ... ...i have been lurking for a while...and have found loads of helpfull information. THANKS. (now all i need to find is a source of CHEEP neon sign transformers) ...i love holoween and would like to some day open a " house". My backround ??? i have worked in the theatre for 11 years, in positions from lighting designer, to properties master, to special efx, i spent the summer as relief prop master, technical director, and pyro tech. on the Batman stunt show at six flags in NJ. i have a good working knowledge of the artistic and technical aspects ,( hell if you cant make it out of foam , tape, and fiberglass... it cant be made ! ) but im lost , when it comes to the business end of things... i am wondering if the book "How To Run A Financially Successful Haunted House" by Phillip Morris. is a worth getting ? i would love to hear from anyone who has it, or who could recomend another book or two on the subject. would also like to hear from anyone who has run a " financially succesfull" house. has anyone been to King Richards fair , in carver mass.? they have a museum of torture... about a dozen reproductions of torture devices, set up in a cave like cavern... the content changes a bit from year to year, i think. ... its cool... but not gorry enough !!! i would like to find a good (visual) source of information, regarding devices of torture...i enjoy building " sick" props ...do plans exist ???? Ldwarf@aol.com. "Spell check ?... we don't need no stinkin' spell check" From owner-halloween-l Mon Nov 27 10:04:52 1995 From: TheLazer@aol.com Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 18:51:29 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Terror on Church Street Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Okay, I got the idea... Sounds cool, are they good effects, or cheap "I know how they did that," Stuff? Jay From owner-halloween-l Mon Nov 27 11:01:04 1995 From: TonyGJr@aol.com Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 16:33:32 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Post halloween/Theremins Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Thanks. I bought a Gnome off them many years back when I was a kid. (now I use an Ensoniq ESQ-1 to write my music :) Tony From owner-halloween-l Wed Nov 29 06:34:15 1995 Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 04:25:30 -0700 From: Lauren Jones To: m_franklin@cariboo.bc.ca, halloween-l@netcom.com Cc: lewisw@oasys.dt.navy.mil Subject: Re: Mausoleum on the Cheap! -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: The Twilight Zone logo or me catching on fire? >>> Mark Franklin 11/24/95 03:31am >>> On Tue, 21 Nov 1995, Lauren Jones wrote: > through the mausoleum, a glowing > "Twilight Zone" logo lit up the picture > window, and that was the year I > caught on fire (no injuries). Do tell how that happened... :) Sounds like a really effective special effect. -------- Mark Franklin m_franklin@cariboo.bc.ca From owner-halloween-l Wed Nov 29 07:18:09 1995 Date: Mon, 27 Nov 95 22:00 PST To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: bdosfx@wimsey.com (Brian D. Oberquell) Subject: "Theremin" documentary Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Siskel and Ebert were talking about this, and I was wondering if anyone out there had seen it yet? It looks good... From owner-halloween-l Wed Nov 29 07:19:52 1995 From: "BHendrsn@kirk.microsys.net" To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 12:02:43 +0000 Subject: Re: Re[2]: Being humbled at Halloween decorating Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: > Brian, the resistor makes all the diference if you want eyes peering at you > or if you want one shot strobe lights... Considering that I have been doing this without resistors for many years and haven't blown out a set of LEDs yet... > Seriously, the resistor is not needed if you use small lamps. The design is > for LEDs which DO require the resistor. Besides, with the resistor, they will > last much longer.... :) Which is true. However, they are so cheap that they can be considered disposable anyhow. -Brian From owner-halloween-l Wed Nov 29 07:41:47 1995 Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 21:58:28 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Franklin Subject: Re: Mausoleum on the Cheap! -Reply To: Lauren Jones Cc: halloween-l@netcom.com, lewisw@oasys.dt.navy.mil Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 28 Nov 1995, Lauren Jones wrote: > The Twilight Zone logo or me > catching on fire? > The catching on fire of course. :) I figure that must have been amazingly effective in scary people who where there (n doubt including yourself). ----- Mark Franklin m_franklin@cariboo.bc.ca From owner-halloween-l Wed Nov 29 07:56:00 1995 From: bhayes@student.umass.edu Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 15:39:03 -0500 Subject: Re: Terror on Church Street To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: On Sun, 26 Nov 1995 TheLazer@aol.com wrote: > Okay, I got the idea... > > Sounds cool, are they good effects, or cheap "I know how they did that," > Stuff? > > Jay > Well..some of them are pretty obvious, but that is to be expected. Everything else is VERY professional. They obviuously have a BIG budget!! Bri :) Brian Hayes University of Massachussetts Hotel, Restaurant, and Travel Administration bhayes@student.umass.edu visit my homepage at: http://www-vms.oit.umass.edu/~bhayes/index.html ******************************************************************************** "Am I a good man? Am I a madman? It's such a fine line between a good man and a bad...." ******************************************************************************** From owner-halloween-l Wed Nov 29 08:08:23 1995 Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 20:04:14 -0800 From: bobbyr@ix.netcom.com (Bobby Rosenberger ) Subject: Re: Party Props... (The Mausoleum) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: >2 questions though, How thick was the sytrofoam, and did you distress >it any? 1) The styrofoam was 1 inch thick. 2) No. I didn't distress the styrofoam... after adding the dark grey paint and the vines it was difficult to distinquish texture under the black lights... sounds like it might be fun to experiment with tho', especially if you were going to use it in different lighting. I think I said this in the original post, but a dremel with a sanding stone bit works really well for sculpting styrofoam. >> >>Bubbling brain chamber >>Dracula's Coffin cooler >>spinning-spiral wheel >>Warlock's brew/wall fountain >>Jacobs ladder (mainly its environment, since we've talked about >>the ladder itself) > >Well they all sound worthy of writing up! How about pictures? Ok, good! I'm glad you liked it. I'm working on writing up some of the others... takes so dern long... The pictures are being developed... I have access to a nice scanner... Does anyone know where I might send them if I have some good ones? I know there are Web pages out there but I don't know if I can just send them or what... or maybe an ftp site... let me know. It would be nice to see a picture (other than ascii) as well as a description. Bobby R. From owner-halloween-l Wed Nov 29 08:20:45 1995 Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 12:15:38 -0600 From: David Kiihne To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: History of Pepper's Ghost Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: >>> 11/20/95 02:38pm >>> Now you've got me curious...what is the origin of the "Pepper's Ghost" you mentioned? I know Disney uses this effect (and/or variations of this effect) at the Haunted Mansion. Is Pepper's Ghost a Disney creation? Stuart, Greetings. I am an amateur magician/illusion-designer with a more-than-passing interest in the history of magic and the origins of illusions. To the best of my knowledge, here is how the "Pepper's Ghost" illusion came about. The illusion is named after John Henry Pepper, a chemistry professor at London Polytechnic Institute. Pepper presented this illusion in 1862 at the institute and received considerable press coverage for it. After its popular introduction, the principle was noted as being used in "Hamlet" (for Hamlet's father), in "Macbeth" (for Banquo's ghost), and in a stage version of "A Christmas Carol." Obviously, the idea has been used extensively for other purposes in the years since then. Pepper's presentation, though, was not the "original" design for this illusion. According to James Randi in his book "Conjuring," Pepper's illusion was a modification of an idea by Henry Dircks, a Liverpool civil engineer. Dircks immediately protested Pepper's success by publishing the complete method for the illusion along with a complete record of its history and construction. Another source, "Making Magic" by Edwin A. Dawes & Arthur Setterington, lists Henri Robin as having presented a similar illusion in Paris in 1847. In "Conjuring," James Randi specifically mentions Disney's use of this principle in their haunted ballroom scene, a ballroom filled with "ghost" dancers. He states that the method used by Disney is actually closer to the original Dircks design than to Pepper's derivation. (By the way, Pepper's changes made it possible for a larger audience to view the illusion.) Despite its contested (and confusing) origination, the term "Pepper's Ghost" is generally used to refer to any illusion which uses an angled glass plate to reflect semi-transparent images into a "live" scene. For further reading, some books (including those already mentioned) on magic history which mention this illusion are: Conjuring by James Randi ISBN 0-312-08634-2 (C)opyright 1992 Making Magic by Edwin A. Dawes & Arthur Setterington ISBN 1-85375-009-3 (C)opyright 1992 Our Magic by Nevil Maskelyne & David Devant (No ISBN Listed) (C)opyright 1946 (Not specifically about history, but it provides priceless insight into the performers and principles of the day.) The Illustrated History of Magic by Milbourne Christopher (Sorry, I don't know the ISBN or copyright because I don't have this one in my personal library . . . yet.) Sorry for the verbosity, but I don't like giving incomplete answers. Hope that helps. Dave From owner-halloween-l Fri Dec 1 05:09:25 1995 Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 12:42:39 -0700 From: Lauren Jones Cc: halloween-l@netcom.com, lewisw@oasys.dt.navy.mil Subject: All Fired Up on Halloween Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: The year we did the Twilight Zone, one of the indoor scenes was a skeleton playing the piano. I stacked silver-painted cardboard tubes of various diameters and lengths on the back of the piano, and had an irregularly flashing dark blue C7 bulb going off behind it to simulate lightning behind old organ pipes (these cheap things sometimes really surprise you in how good they look!). Also behind the organ pipes was a cassette recorder playing baroque organ music in minor keys. I had run out of time, so the tape was only recorded on one side. Every 30 or 45 minutes, the tape would run out, and if you reached behind the pipes to hit the rewind, pulled your arm out, then reached in again to hit the stop and play buttons to start the tape again, that was two chances you'd knock the organ pipes (which were not secured to the piano top to each other--ran out of time there, too!) all over the floor. So I got into the habit of reaching in, hitting the rewind button, and waiting until I could hit the stop and play buttons before pulling my arm out. About 2/3 of the way through the evening, when we had a lull in the trick-or-treaters and no one was coming through, I heard the voice of my "Rod Serling" actor several feet behind me saying, "Don't move!" I started to turn around to see why he wasn't out on the street, and he said, louder, "Don't move!" A couple of party guests appeared in the archway beyond, said something like "Oh, my God!" and disappeared. A second later, somebody's making dull, slapping noises around my head, and the people in the back of the house ran in with a sauce pan of water from my kitchen and poured it over my left shoulder and the left side of my head. My costume that year was The Angel of Death, and I was wearing huge black wings that I had to go sideways through doors in, and while I was waiting for the tape to rewind, the "elbow" of the left wing had had just enough time to sit in the flame of a candle and had begun to catch fire. I was also wearing a long, black gown of the kind of fabric they don't allow children's sleepwear to be constructed of, and if "Rod" hadn't come inside when he had, I would have pulled my arm out from behind the pipes, my sleeve would have gone right into the flame, and the gown I was wearing would have ignited and melted into my skin. The funny thing is, the wings were barely damaged, but everyone made me promise never to wear them again. From owner-halloween-l Sat Dec 2 03:55:50 1995 From: Stuart_McIntire_at_AISDC@ccsmtp.uage.com Date: Fri, 01 Dec 95 08:33:22 EST To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: All Fired Up on Halloween Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: I've always heard that we suffering artists have to make sacrifices for our work...I guess the moniker "Angel of Death" was appropo in this case! ;) I've never been able to figure out how to simulate spontaneous combustion, but this is sure an excellent case study, wouldn't you all agree? - Stu [ stuart.mcintire@uage.com ] ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: All Fired Up on Halloween Author: halloween-l@netcom.com at Internet Date: 12/1/95 8:23 AM The year we did the Twilight Zone, one of the indoor scenes was a skeleton playing the piano. I stacked silver-painted cardboard tubes of various diameters and lengths on the back of the piano, and had an irregularly flashing dark blue C7 bulb going off behind it to simulate lightning behind old organ pipes (these cheap things sometimes really surprise you in how good they look!). Also behind the organ pipes was a cassette recorder playing baroque organ music in minor keys. I had run out of time, so the tape was only recorded on one side. Every 30 or 45 minutes, the tape would run out, and if you reached behind the pipes to hit the rewind, pulled your arm out, then reached in again to hit the stop and play buttons to start the tape again, that was two chances you'd knock the organ pipes (which were not secured to the piano top to each other--ran out of time there, too!) all over the floor. So I got into the habit of reaching in, hitting the rewind button, and waiting until I could hit the stop and play buttons before pulling my arm out. About 2/3 of the way through the evening, when we had a lull in the trick-or-treaters and no one was coming through, I heard the voice of my "Rod Serling" actor several feet behind me saying, "Don't move!" I started to turn around to see why he wasn't out on the street, and he said, louder, "Don't move!" A couple of party guests appeared in the archway beyond, said something like "Oh, my God!" and disappeared. A second later, somebody's making dull, slapping noises around my head, and the people in the back of the house ran in with a sauce pan of water from my kitchen and poured it over my left shoulder and the left side of my head. My costume that year was The Angel of Death, and I was wearing huge black wings that I had to go sideways through doors in, and while I was waiting for the tape to rewind, the "elbow" of the left wing had had just enough time to sit in the flame of a candle and had begun to catch fire. I was also wearing a long, black gown of the kind of fabric they don't allow children's sleepwear to be constructed of, and if "Rod" hadn't come inside when he had, I would have pulled my arm out from behind the pipes, my sleeve would have gone right into the flame, and the gown I was wearing would have ignited and melted into my skin. The funny thing is, the wings were barely damaged, but everyone made me promise never to wear them again. From owner-halloween-l Sat Dec 2 14:07:59 1995 From: "BHendrsn@kirk.microsys.net" To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 23:29:55 +0000 Subject: Re: Re[2]: How To Run A Financially Successful Haunted House Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: > I can add that though I look for new sources of info and ideas > every year, this is the one I always go back to. You can use > this book for everything from simple trick-or-treat ideas to > elaborate haunted houses. I've got another book that was recently > published which has some good ideas also. I'll post the info > on that one very soon. That would be a great I was going to run down to the bookstore and order "How to run a Financially Successful Haunted House" but I might want to wait for your book too. Make sure you post the ISBN too! ;) > Have I ever run a financially successful haunted house? I > guess that depends on your definition! :) > Years ago, I did some volunteer work with the Rockville, MD > Jaycees. I have no idea what the gate was, but I can > guarantee we made oodles of money. I've run some very financially successful houses privately before, although I don't think we figured in the overhead of all the props, etc. since we had to purchase very little. How the heck do you amortize a coffin anyhow? > Come to think of it, I've got probably two more books worth > posting information on, so I'll put that at the top of my > "to do" list. Do it, Stu, do it! ;) -Brian From owner-halloween-l Tue Dec 5 01:54:36 1995 Date: Mon, 04 Dec 1995 20:23:39 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Franklin Subject: Re: All Fired Up on Halloween -Reply To: Lauren Jones Cc: halloween-l@netcom.com, lewisw@oasys.dt.navy.mil Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 4 Dec 1995, Lauren Jones wrote: > There was a lull in the visitors at the time, so it was just the insiders that > got a look. Actually, it wasn't until later that I realized how serious the > whole thing was. The next year, however, the theme was "A Visit to > Hell"........ :) That's good to hear. I like the theme for the next year.... -------- Mark From owner-halloween-l Sat Dec 9 08:36:54 1995 From: RoboJay@aol.com Date: Fri, 8 Dec 1995 02:59:42 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Halloween lives with me Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com