> > "MidEVIL Times" > > Most of us probably did the same thing! > Welcome aboard, and I hope you live near me > so I can stop by... > > Hey, can we do a registry of who's setting > up this year with city and state info? I'd > be willing to write a little html with > locations, descriptions, etc. if Don can put > the file on his site with a link from the > Halloween-L page... Sure, let me know and I'll set it up. don bertino@netcom.com ____/^\_____________________________________ Disney ascii art & / \ || FDC MCP || / \ animations are at <______\ [] [] [] || [] [] [] || [] [] [] /______> http://www.calweb.com \----------------||----------||----------------/=== /~bertino===============\______________||__________||______________/===== From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Mon Jul 8 13:01:52 1996 Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 11:54:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Bertino To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: WRONG IDEA Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 1 Jul 1996, Lisa Marie Peterson wrote: > At 05:40 AM 6/29/96 -0700, you wrote: > >I love pumpkin carving. Not only that but this year I am growing my own > >pumpkins for my haunted yard. We use the store bought patterns and change > >them around to fit our mood. [...............] > Hello Kathy! Did you say pumpkin carving? I started carving pumpkins last >year and ended up doing about 30 of them by the time the holiday was over. >We live in New Almaden which is kind of isolated, so we only get about 10 >trick-or-treaters (yes, I said ten). Everyone, kids and adults, LOVED the >pumpkins! We hope to get a few more visitors this year due to the reaction >the pumpkins got. Anyway, I don't think there is anyway to recreate the >golden "flicker" of candlelight. But if you or your husband are at all >electrically inclined, you might try those little lightbulbs for nightlights. >They are the same size as the old-style christmas lights (not the tiny ones >you mostly see today). Sure there is. You gotta check out the C-9 Flicker bulbs, they would be perfect. A strand of 25 C-9 Christmas lights would do the job. The lights are generally spaced 1 foot apart, so you could unscrew every other bulb and cover the socket with electrical tape. You can go with individual flicker bulbs or buy and build a flicker/shimmering kit from any electronics supply house. With a kit, and whole strand would shimmer together, while individual bulbs would be, well individual. :) don bertino@netcom.com ____/^\_____________________________________ Disney ascii art & / \ || FDC MCP || / \ animations are at <______\ [] [] [] || [] [] [] || [] [] [] /______> http://www.calweb.com \----------------||----------||----------------/=== /~bertino===============\______________||__________||______________/===== From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Mon Jul 8 14:40:43 1996 Date: Sun, 07 Jul 1996 22:28:54 -0500 From: "Bobby R." To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: OK gang Help Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: > > I am really, REALLY interested this year in adding action to my yard. > I want the bodies in the graveyard to turn, the arms try to dig out of > the grave, and the coffin to open. Can any of you help me with beginners > plans for these robotics. I am not a pro so this has to be a starter > guide for non technical persons willing to learn. Can anyone help? > Thank You All For Your Help. > Kathy > The new kid on the crypt. I'd also be interested in hearing some beginners tips on adding action to a "scene". Last year I constructed the ever popular "Pop-Ghost" and tried my hand at the "Floating Ghost"... the first was a great success, the second was a dismal failure. Too much wind and too many trees caused headaches too great to complain about. Anyway, sounds like a great topic. Bobby R. P.S. Has anyone out there had any experience with the book "Control the World with Your PC" by Paul Bergsman? I'm thinking of getting it, but it's $35 so I'd like to hear that it's worth it before I buy it. From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Mon Jul 8 14:44:24 1996 Date: Sun, 07 Jul 1996 19:08:18 -0700 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Pumpkins and Low-Tech Halloween Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: We started with one hay bale and my daughter dressed as a witch. And from then on it has only grown. It is great that on here those who are just starting can get help from someone with a little more practice. And those of us who have a little more practice can ask and learn from the people who really know what they are doing. No one acts like they are any better than anyone else, so I have never felt stupid asking even the dumbest questions. I will love to see your information about your non tech Halloween. Kathy the new kid on the crypt From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Mon Jul 8 14:55:12 1996 Date: Mon, 8 Jul 96 06:13:39 EDT To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Bill Lewis Subject: Re: Growing moss on decorations Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: At 08:07 AM 7/6/96 -0500, you wrote: > I would like to grow real moss (not Spanish) on some of my decorations... >skulls, tombstones, etc. Don't ask why, I have no idea why I wander off on >these tangents. > I've heard that if you mix moss you find growing on a rock or tree with >milk (I think?) in a blender, you then have a concoction that can be painted >on to surfaces. If kept wet and shaded this mixture will grow moss on just >about anything. I've heard of mixing it with beer and sugar in a blender, and then paint it on but I haven't tried it (yet). > Does anyone have the actual formula and procedure, and what do you feed it >once it does grow? I've got a patch of moss under a maple tree in the yard, I never feed it. From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Mon Jul 8 14:56:37 1996 Date: Sun, 07 Jul 1996 19:03:54 -0700 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Homemade Goodies, etc. Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Thanks for the great idea. I am going to give it a try and see what happens. Most of the people do know us but they are so careful. Thanks Kathy From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Mon Jul 8 15:15:24 1996 Date: Sun, 07 Jul 1996 22:38:51 -0500 From: "Bobby R." To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Growing moss on decorations Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: > > I don't know how to help you but I really like the idea. So when you find > out please send it to me. The idea of real moss growing on the tombstones > sounds creepy. I am having a dungeon this year and that would be a great > look. Not a bad idea, good thinking. > Kathy > the new kid on the crypt Kathy, Hi, I'm Bobby. I am also planning on doing a dungeon this year. I'd love to hear some of your ideas. My dungeon will exist in my basement. I generally cover the walls with black plastic and paint a scene on it. Last year I did a graveyard scene with some florecent highlights, it really looked great. But I'm not too sure about dungeon walls. My current idea is to hang the plastic and paint large stone blocks all over the basement. Then hang skeletal remains from shackles... that kind of thing. What about you? Bobby R. From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Mon Jul 8 15:34:32 1996 From: milwiron@btprod.com Date: Fri, 05 Jul 1996 06:59:21 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Giant Skull... Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: At 09:24 PM 6/30/96 -0500, you wrote: >Hey Guys (and Gals), > >I've had an idea pop into my head here in the last couple of weeks and I think I'm going to do it... but I need advise. (Balance deleted for brevity) We have a couple of miniature golf places around here with those giant skulls you mentioned... I drool, the wife says "no". Anyhow, from my molding and casting experience I'd be tempted to do a rough foam sculpt out of the thickest expanded foam you can find to layer together. Then I'd cover it with fiberglass laminate. This is a pretty common way of doing outdoor decorations. The only wrinkle is you need to use an epoxy base laminating resin, not the more commonly found polyester (styrene monomer) based. Epoxy laminating resins can be found at boat supply places, automotive refinishing suppliers usually sell the polyester type. Polyester based laminating resins will melt your Styrofoam sculpt, epoxy won't. You may be able to get away with Styrofoam and polyester resin if the foam is sealed with a number of coats of outdoor latex paint first, this is risky though if the resin gets through to the foam. After you get the fiberglass shell made you can always gouge out the foam or dissolve it out with acetone, leaving the shell only and opening the possibilities of animation or internal lighting. Another good way of protecting a Styrofoam sculpt (mentioned in earlier posts) is to paint on a few coats of Stage Coat before your final paint. Denny B.T. Productions' Terror By Design Haunt Supplies & Scare Wares From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Mon Jul 8 18:23:59 1996 Date: Mon, 08 Jul 1996 07:05:48 -0700 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: where are you Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: For awhile there things were waking up but I think all of you have gone back into your coffins. It is only 116 days to Halloween and do you know where your skeleton is??? I was hoping someone out there could give me some help with making my monsters move this year but sofar no replies. I will take any ideas anyone can give me, I don't care how easy or how hard that will be my husbands job to work it out. We went to Santa Cruz to the boardwalk this weekend and checked out their haunted house. I have seen better work on some of the photos you have posted on your pages. They did have a great clock on the outside that I am going to work on. So everyone put on your sunblock and dark glasses and come out of your coffins and start talking. Kathy the new kid on the crypt From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Mon Jul 8 20:27:10 1996 Date: Mon, 08 Jul 1996 07:12:35 -0700 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Inexpensive One-way Mirror Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Thanks for the ideas on how to do the mirror thing. You live close to me maybe I can come take a look at the finished product to see how it works. I live in Sonoma and my husband has been trying to get this effect for awhile now. We were just up your way taking a computer to a friend who goes to school there. She needed a upgrade so hubby did some work on it for her. What a nice area. Thanks again for the tip will be looking forward to future mailings. Kathy the new kid on the crypt Looks like everyone else is still in their crypts!! From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Mon Jul 8 21:24:47 1996 Date: Mon, 8 Jul 96 15:05:04 -0700 (PDT) To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: bdosfx@wimsey.com (Brian D. Oberquell) Subject: Re: Giant Skull... Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: >We finally went to a >craft store and bought plaster rolls. They are rolls of fabric with the >plaster on them, just like the doctors use for broken arms. You might want to check in your area for medical supply stores, because sometimes you can get better prices for plaster bandage (and better selection of widths) than at craft stores. I always enjoy watching the store clerk's face when I'm buying a bunch of plaster bandages, rubber tubing, syringes and collection bags... :-) Brian ______________________________________________________________________________ Brian D. Oberquell The Wizard's Den SPFX Studio 210 Cornell Way Port Moody, B.C. CANADA V3H 3W2 Phone (604) 931-6298 Pager (604) 895-3721 From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Mon Jul 8 21:38:02 1996 Date: Mon, 8 Jul 96 15:04:59 -0700 (PDT) To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: bdosfx@wimsey.com (Brian D. Oberquell) Subject: Re: Inexpensive One-way Mirror Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: I had to make a one-way mirror for a Dracula play years ago; I used the same method Rick tested with the window film (although I believe the film I used was 50% reflective instead of 80%), and the total cost was $25 for a 2 by 3 foot mirror (that included extra film because I took it for granted that I'd mess up the first application -- which I did!) compared to $75 for a "real" one-way mirror... The best part was since the theatre company I made it for didn't have a suitable place to store it, I'm storing it for them so I can use it whenever I want to! Brian ______________________________________________________________________________ Brian D. Oberquell The Wizard's Den SPFX Studio 210 Cornell Way Port Moody, B.C. CANADA V3H 3W2 Phone (604) 931-6298 Pager (604) 895-3721 From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Mon Jul 8 21:52:12 1996 Date: Mon, 08 Jul 1996 08:28:20 -0600 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Punkies Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Tim writes: > Yeah,I heard that story about the turnips. > Now, I would hate to have to do the > complex drawings I do these days on one of > them! Since you don't carve through the faces of punkies (turnip lanterns), only scratch through the thin skin, you might be able to do even more complex drawings (except that your "canvas" would be a lot smaller)! :-) From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Tue Jul 9 01:31:07 1996 Date: Mon, 08 Jul 1996 14:15:00 -0700 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Growing moss on decorations Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Bobby R. I have a dungeon planned for a part of our haunted yard. I am going to block off a corner and cover it with stone printed paper. I am going to make PVC pipe into bars. Add a Skeleton and some shakles and rats. Now put a green light bulb pointing up to give weird shadows. Instant dungeon. Just a idea but I have a catalog that I get large rolls of display paper from that is easier than painting on plastic. Did that for a few years and this saves time. It is called the "Anderson's School Events Catalog " and the number is#1-800-748-7004. They have always been good about sending things even if it is just a small order. You might want to give them a try. The price for a 48"x50' roll of brick patterned paper is $17.70. Have you found the nightmare factory page on the computer yet? They have a catalog full of everything that you can dream of. Back to work, talk more later. Kathy the new kid on the crypt From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Tue Jul 9 02:57:15 1996 Date: Mon, 08 Jul 1996 11:11:18 -0600 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Attraction Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Don Bertino wrote: > BTW, even try the local TV weatherperson, > they love to do remotes, or atleast the > ones that live in +40 degree weather.... :) As a matter of fact, someone in the neighborhood called the local NBC affiliate (WRC, for you Washingtonians), and they sent a camera crew out and we made the 11:00 news. From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Tue Jul 9 03:15:16 1996 From: dbell@cup.portal.com To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Inexpensive One-way Mirror Date: Mon, 8 Jul 96 10:02:25 PDT Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Great posting from Rick Hill! I've just started working on this same angle again, and am leaning the same way: Mylar film on a frame, as an inexpensive, lightweight, partial mirror (or full mirror, for that matter.) I think the real trick is going to be getting the film stretched *tight* and flat, on a sufficiently rigid frame. For a large mirror - several feet on a side - this could be a real problem. I'm going to try something like the following: Build an open (top & bottom) box, like a waterbed frame, from 1X lumber. This will be the four "sides" of the hallway or whatever. Attach the film with some form of stretcher bars, if possible, to the open faces of the box. May have to break down and use glue here, which makes the assembly tough to break down and store... To keep the long sides of the box from bowing in, attach 1x2 or 1x4 on the outsides, on edge, to make the sides 'T' or 'U' sections. Now, if the film could be atteched to separate structures, like canvas stretcher bars, they could be lightly attached to the box, and the box probably wouldn't need additional external bracing. This would also give you two flat picture frame assemblies to wrap and store, and a box that could be broken down. Later!! Dave dbell@cup.portal.com From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Tue Jul 9 03:29:38 1996 Date: Mon, 08 Jul 1996 13:09:29 -0700 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: OK gang Help Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Bobby R. You are one step ahead of me what is the pop up ghost? And since you said it worked well tell me how to do it. PLEASE!!! Any action is better than no action at all. I have seen some books to but the prices are really high. I was wondering if I could use the internet Library to look animatronics up. Any ideas? Waiting to hear from you. Kathy the new kid on the crypt From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Tue Jul 9 03:36:04 1996 Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 17:52:52 -0500 From: raven@kehleyr.phys.ttu.edu (Morgan Bottrell) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: flourescent floss Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Well, apparently the net ate my post, at least I haven't seen it. :( Balger makes 5 colors of flourescent "blending filament" and also "braid" in the same colors. If you want to tat, I'd guess that the braid might be better. I get mine at the cross-stitch shop in town. I think cross-stitch stores carry it, although most of them stick it behind a counter in a glass case in the cities I've lived in. (3 diff cities in 3 diff states. ;-) The colors are : 051F tangerine (orange) 052F grapefriut (whitish) 053F lime (green) 054F lemon-lime (yellow) 055F watermelon (reddish/pinkish) I still wish they'd come out with a blue. :-) Do any of you make your own yard figures? I was thinking that I would like to try that if I got a chance this year. Do they make a good flourescent paint for stuff like that? I think it'd be really neat to have stuff that was too heavy to carry off that glowed in the dark. (I'm really annoyed about people stealing stuff out of my yard, but putting up a fence for the yard isn't in the budget this year, and probably not next year :( I'm definitely a "low-tech" yard. I'm gonna try a big rope spiderweb and a big paper mache spider if I get a chance too, but other than that it'll probablt just be graves and pumpkins and a few figures... and the obligatory ghosts in tree. (I really only have one tree of any size in the front yard.) Morgan raven@kehleyr.phys.ttu.edu From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Tue Jul 9 08:43:01 1996 From: milwiron@btprod.com Date: Mon, 08 Jul 1996 18:35:09 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Growing moss on decorations Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: At 10:38 PM 7/7/96 -0500, Bobby wrote: >My current idea >is to hang the plastic and paint large stone blocks all over the >basement. Then hang skeletal remains from shackles... that kind >of thing. Hey Bobby, There's a "how-to" haunted house video called Secrets Of The Haunted Mansion, it has a really nice segment about painting "rock" onto flat surfaces. It's excellent for folk like me who are artistically challenged. The guy demonstrating in the video does an excellent job of highlighting and texturing without a lot of work, the results are very 3-D looking. The tape also shows the construction of an inexpensive and simple Iron Maiden. Try to beg or borrow a copy of the tape, I think you'll enjoy it. I had copies in stock up until a week ago but that was it, there won't be anymore shipped from the makers this season. It's worth finding, if you can. Keep us posted on your dungeon. Denny B.T. Productions' Terror By Design Haunt Supplies & Scare Wares From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Tue Jul 9 08:58:51 1996 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 08:12:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Bertino To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Growing moss on decorations Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 8 Jul 1996 milwiron@btprod.com wrote: Hi Denny! > There's a "how-to" haunted house video called Secrets Of The Haunted > Mansion, it has a really nice segment about painting "rock" onto flat > surfaces. It's excellent for folk like me who are artistically challenged. > The guy demonstrating in the video does an excellent job of highlighting and > texturing without a lot of work, the results are very 3-D looking. The tape > also shows the construction of an inexpensive and simple Iron Maiden. Try to > beg or borrow a copy of the tape, I think you'll enjoy it. > I had copies in stock up until a week ago but that was it, there won't be > anymore shipped from the makers this season. It's worth finding, if you can. Man, the list is really heating up. It's great! I was thinking of buying the video from you, sheesh..... Next year, it will be less thinking and more buying.... :) don bertino@netcom.com ____/^\_____________________________________ Disney ascii art & / \ || FDC MCP || / \ animations are at <______\ [] [] [] || [] [] [] || [] [] [] /______> http://www.calweb.com \----------------||----------||----------------/=== /~bertino===============\______________||__________||______________/===== From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Tue Jul 9 10:06:56 1996 Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 18:26:58 -0700 (MST) To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: trix@primenet.com (Darlene Horwath) Subject: Help plan a Halloween Wedding Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: I just got email from someone who is interested in help planning a halloween wedding. He/she is looking for ideas for a coustume wedding and ideas for thebridal party and grooms men, music, cake for decorations and center pieces etc. Does anyone have suggestions??? The wedding isnt until 1997, and I wasnt given any $$$ limits...so what do ya think? Trix From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Tue Jul 9 14:13:33 1996 From: milwiron@btprod.com Date: Mon, 08 Jul 1996 18:43:43 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Growing moss on decorations Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: At 06:13 AM 7/8/96 EDT, Bill wrote about growing moss: >I've heard of mixing it with beer and sugar in a blender, and then paint it >on but I haven't tried it (yet). > >> Does anyone have the actual formula and procedure, and what do you feed it >>once it does grow? > >I've got a patch of moss under a maple tree in the yard, I never feed it. > Hey Bill, My news server is up and running again (like the wind in the night, the idiotic, bloody, #!&*$^*?!). Can I say that here? I posted the same question to a couple of gardening newsgroups. I'll post what I find out. Beer huh? Hmmm, makin' me thirsty, I wonder if there are any bottles of Red Dog in the fridge? Denny B.T. Productions' Terror By Design Haunt Supplies & Scare Wares From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Tue Jul 9 20:06:37 1996 From: Stuart_McIntire_at_AISDC@ccsmtp.uage.com Date: Tue, 09 Jul 96 08:17:49 EST To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re[2]: Giant Skull... Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Denny replies: >>I've had an idea pop into my head here in the last couple of weeks and I >>think I'm going to do it... but I need advise. (Balance deleted for >>brevity) >We have a couple of miniature golf places around here with those giant >skulls you mentioned... I drool, the wife says "no". Well, Denny, if you ever get that ultralight out of the living room (and the Hog out of the bedroom), Sue might be a < little > more receptive to giant skulls... ;) This would be a good time for those interested to go through the halloween-l archive vault to find the thread(s) on the giant spider to set on top of the house... - Stu From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Tue Jul 9 20:28:47 1996 From: Stuart_McIntire_at_AISDC@ccsmtp.uage.com Date: Tue, 09 Jul 96 08:11:57 EST To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Haunt Registry Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: If the haunt is run by a professional organization (i.e.: Silo X) and they have a web page, it would be nice to have the URL so we can link up to their site... - Stu ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Haunt Registry Author: halloween-l@netcom.com at Internet Date: 7/6/96 2:12 PM Just received some info on her haunted house from new lister Kathy. I guess I should get more organized... Let's see...info needed from each haunt... ========================================= NAME OF HAUNT (if you have a special one) ADDRESS YOUR NAME (CONTACT) LOCAL DIRECTIONS EMAIL/PHONE/OTHER CONTACT METHOD IF DESIRED THEME (MOVIE MONSTERS, HAUNTED SCHOOL, ETC.) DESCRIPTION (GIVE US A HINT!) INTENDED AUDIENCE (TOO MUCH FOR THE KIDDIES?) =========================================== Did I leave anything out? From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Tue Jul 9 21:01:32 1996 From: Stuart_McIntire_at_AISDC@ccsmtp.uage.com Date: Tue, 09 Jul 96 08:24:50 EST To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re[2]: Growing moss on decorations Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Bobby, >Hi, I'm Bobby. I am also planning on doing a dungeon this year. >I'd love to hear some of your ideas. >My dungeon will exist in my basement. I generally cover the >walls with black plastic and paint a scene on it. Last year I >did a graveyard scene with some florecent highlights, it really >looked great. But I'm not too sure about dungeon walls. My >current idea is to hang the plastic and paint large stone blocks >all over the basement. Then hang skeletal remains from >shackles... that kind of thing. What about you? A good dungeon should have the requisite torture devices at the very least. How about a rack that actually s-t-r-e-t-c-h-e-s the victim? Don't for- get to add rats and bats, sound effects, and a smoldering cauldron of hot coals... Now if you want to make your dungeons like the "pros," you'll want the best detail possible. Black plastic is fine for the budget-concious, but have you considered walls that have that "real stone" look? Do it in 3-D relief and paint it a mottled gray. Perhaps mix something in the paint to give it a textured look. The possibilities are numerous. Give it some thought - you'll end up with a memorable haunt... - Stu From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Tue Jul 9 21:21:33 1996 From: milwiron@btprod.com Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 06:20:40 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: where are you Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: At 07:05 AM 7/8/96 -0700, you wrote: >For awhile there things were waking up but I think all of you have gone >back into your coffins. It is only 116 days to Halloween and do you know >where your skeleton is??? I was hoping someone out there could give me >some help with making my monsters move this year but sofar no replies. It's a huge area of study. A person can build animated figures out of Tinker Toys or titanium. Without being more specific in describing your abilities, experience, resources (tools, time, money) and goals, it's almost an impossible request to fill. For starters: The book- Robot Builder's Bonanza by Gordon McComb has a lot of very basic (aimed at chidren?) mechanical linkages and electronics (watch for mistakes). The four volume- Ingenious Mechanisms by Jones, Horton and Newell shows thousands of mechanisms for automation. Robot Builder's runs around $17.00 at bookstores and Ingenious Mechanisms can be found for anywhere from $90.00 to $200.00 for the set at industrial suppliers and technical book dealers. Also, check the newsgroup- comp.robotics.misc and the Halloween archives for some home-built pneumatics. After that, there are a couple of books available on basic animatronics. Denny B.T. Productions' Terror By Design Haunt Supplies & Scare Wares From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Tue Jul 9 21:31:52 1996 From: milwiron@btprod.com Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 07:25:10 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Inexpensive One-way Mirror Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: At 10:02 AM 7/8/96 PDT, Dave wrote: >Great posting from Rick Hill! I've just started working on this >same angle again, and am leaning the same way: Mylar film on a >frame, as an inexpensive, lightweight, partial mirror (or full >mirror, for that matter.) > >I think the real trick is going to be getting the film stretched >*tight* and flat, on a sufficiently rigid frame. For a large >mirror - several feet on a side - this could be a real problem. >I'm going to try something like the following: Build an open >(top & bottom) box, like a waterbed frame, from 1X lumber. Hey Dave, Good idea, much safer than using un-tempered glass with applied film in a public display. You may want to consider making the stretcher bars out of something like aluminum angle, Unistrut or Erecto-Slotted angles. Gonna cost more but the "sags and bags" will be a lot easier to control in a doorway size span. Years ago I did a display project for a customer using a 1.5 mil. Mylar film and ended up spring loading one side (each direction) of the tensioning frame to compensate for slight changes in humidity and temperature. I used the cheap "handyman" extension springs hooked into the frame. The adjusting sides of the frame just had a number of 1/4-20 screws for take up. To attach the film, I used polyester film, acrylic adhesive, double face tape. One $6.00 roll did the whole thing easily. Later, Denny B.T. Productions' Terror By Design Haunt Supplies & Scare Wares From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Tue Jul 9 21:42:07 1996 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 08:07:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Lund To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: where are you Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: I used a slow rotating barbeque motor to activate (raise and lower) Dracula in his coffin. I had to make an elliptical (sort of egg shaped) wheel out of wood to attach to the working end of the motor. It works great, I have the lightweight coffin leaning beside my front door at about a 20 or 30 degree angle. Dracula is just a peice of styrofoam with a mask on it. A hinged wooden track is mounted to the bottom of the coffin and the loose end falls over the block of wood on the motor. The action of the block of wood raises and lowers the track slowly. Small kids are scared to death and so are a lot of grown ups. I keep it on continuously, but this year I may activate automatically when people come to the door. Good luck Larry _ ___c \ _| \_ __\_| oooo \_____ ~~~~|______________/ ~~~~~ On Mon, 8 Jul 1996, Michael Marcrum wrote: > For awhile there things were waking up but I think all of you have gone > back into your coffins. It is only 116 days to Halloween and do you know > where your skeleton is??? I was hoping someone out there could give me > some help with making my monsters move this year but sofar no replies. I > will take any ideas anyone can give me, I don't care how easy or how hard > that will be my husbands job to work it out. > We went to Santa Cruz to the boardwalk this weekend and checked out their > haunted house. I have seen better work on some of the photos you have > posted on your pages. They did have a great clock on the outside that I > am going to work on. > So everyone put on your sunblock and dark glasses and come out of your > coffins and start talking. > Kathy > the new kid on the crypt > From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Tue Jul 9 22:04:32 1996 From: "R. C." To: Subject: Re: OK gang Help Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 07:00:02 -0700 Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: > You are one step ahead of me what is the pop up ghost? And since you > said it worked well tell me how to do it. PLEASE!!! Any action is better > than no action at all. I have seen some books to but the prices are > really high. I was wondering if I could use the internet Library to look > animatronics up. Any ideas? Waiting to hear from you. > Kathy > the new kid on the crypt Pop up ghosts are very simple to do, the only problem I still have is automating them so they will pop up when people walk by. In the past I have used water and air pressure to make the ghost pop up. With the water pressure my friend designed a piston type thing made out of PVC pipe. He placed a smaller PVC pipe into a larger one, then we had the hose hooked up to the bottom of the larger one. When you turned the hose on the head on the pipe you slowly rise up. Our air pressure one worked really good. We ran a string from behind a table we set up to the ceiling. We had cut a hole in the bottom of a soda can that we later painted white, so it would show up in the blacklight. The we used an air pressure machine, with someone sitting under the table to set it off. For this all you do is press the button on the hose to release the air onto the bottom of the can and it shoots up the string. If we had a stronger air pressure machine, or some type of piston we may have been able to do something heavier, rather than a can. This year I am thinking of using a rotisserie motor to turn and press the lever to turn the air on so someone doesn't have to sit controlling the ghost that pops up. I'll probably start testing towards the end of July, and I'll tell you how things go. Ryan C web: http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/ccnet/disney.htm Here You Leave Today and Enter The World Of Yesterday, Tomorrow, and Fantasy. Inscription above entrance to Main Street, USA, Disneyland. From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Tue Jul 9 22:45:07 1996 Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 07:39:01 +0100 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Lisa Marie Peterson Subject: pumpkin lighting Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: >Anyway, I don't think there is anyway to recreate the >golden "flicker" of candlelight. But if you or your husband are at all >electrically inclined, you might try those little lightbulbs for nightlights. >They are the same size as the old-style christmas lights (not the tiny ones >you mostly see today). >Sure there is. You gotta check out the C-9 Flicker bulbs, they would be >perfect. A strand of 25 C-9 Christmas lights would do the job. The lights >are generally spaced 1 foot apart, so you could unscrew every other bulb >and cover the socket with electrical tape. You can go with individual >flicker bulbs or buy and build a flicker/shimmering kit from any electronics >supply house. With a kit, and whole strand would shimmer together, while >individual bulbs would be, well individual. :) Are these lights electric? I've never seen them, that would be cool. Is there a major chain that carries them out of Christmas season? (I live in San Jose). ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Lisa Marie Peterson Ph. 408-467-4626 Administrative Asst. - CellAccess Division Fax 408-451-9361 FORE Systems, Incorporated peterson@fore.com 2115 O'Nel Drive, San Jose, CA 95131 : ) ; ) : ) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Tue Jul 9 22:57:26 1996 From: Stuart_McIntire_at_AISDC@ccsmtp.uage.com Date: Tue, 09 Jul 96 12:21:46 EST To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re[2]: Growing moss on decorations Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Kathy sez: >I have a dungeon planned for a part of our haunted yard. I am going >to block off a corner and cover it with stone printed paper. I am going >to make PVC pipe into bars. Add a Skeleton and some shakles and rats. >Now put a green light bulb pointing up to give weird shadows. Instant >dungeon. Kathy (and all) - see the archives for a great effect we pulled off a couple of years ago which I called (for lack of a creative name) - "the Monster in the Cage." It's a great (inexpensive) idea which utilizes your basic cage of PVC pipe in a more "interactive" way. Sure to get the kiddies screaming! >Just a idea but I have a catalog that I get large rolls of display >paper from that is easier than painting on plastic. Did that for a few >years and this saves time. It is called the "Anderson's School Events >Catalog " and the number is#1-800-748-7004. Thanks, Kathy. This has already been one of the more useful tips I've come across on the list in quite a while... >Have you found the nightmare factory page on the computer yet? They have >a catalog full of everything that you can dream of. By all means, check out the Nightmare Factory. Just be advised - they (and others...NF isn't unique in this regard) often have quite an impressive markup on merchandise that can be found just about anywhere. That's no knock on NF or any other supplier...every- one has to make money. Many times, though, you can find better pricing if you're a smart shopper. Case in point, you may remember a few weeks ago someone was looking for a vulture. One of the web suppliers had it marked up MANY times over what most people retail the exact same bird for. The market is smaller than you might think. Dozens of Halloween suppliers sell merchandise made by a handful of manufacturers. Caveat emptor. >Back to work, talk more later. Indeed! - Stu From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 10 03:53:34 1996 From: TonyGJr@aol.com Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 16:16:26 -0400 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: OK gang Help Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: pop up ghost? a real easy way it to use one of those can antennas that telescope. Another is a motor pulling a string... From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 10 04:10:30 1996 From: TonyGJr@aol.com Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 16:08:19 -0400 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Growing moss on decorations Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: I'd recommend cardboard. In case of a fire, plastic walls give off poisonous fumes, while cardboard just burns without fumes... (in terms of a dungeon with plastic walls) From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 10 08:34:05 1996 Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 07:24:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Bertino To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Re[2]: Giant Skull... Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 9 Jul 1996 Stuart_McIntire_at_AISDC@ccsmtp.uage.com wrote: > Denny replies: > > >>I've had an idea pop into my head here in the last couple of weeks and I > >>think I'm going to do it... but I need advise. (Balance deleted for > >>brevity) > > >We have a couple of miniature golf places around here with those giant > >skulls you mentioned... I drool, the wife says "no". > > Well, Denny, if you ever get that ultralight out of the > living room (and the Hog out of the bedroom), Sue might > be a < little > more receptive to giant skulls... ;) Heh heh heh...... > This would be a good time for those interested to go > through the halloween-l archive vault to find the > thread(s) on the giant spider to set on top of the > house... Speaking of giant spiders, I just uploaded a image of a 25ft spider on top of a house from Wisconsin 1994. It's on the web site http://www.calweb.com/~bertino/halloween.html bertino@netcom.com ____/^\_____________________________________ Disney ascii art & / \ || FDC MCP || / \ animations are at <______\ [] [] [] || [] [] [] || [] [] [] /______> http://www.calweb.com \----------------||----------||----------------/=== /~bertino===============\______________||__________||______________/===== From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 10 09:21:39 1996 Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 08:09:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Bertino To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: pumpkin lighting Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 9 Jul 1996, Lisa Marie Peterson wrote: > >Sure there is. You gotta check out the C-9 Flicker bulbs, they would be > >perfect. A strand of 25 C-9 Christmas lights would do the job. The lights > >are generally spaced 1 foot apart, so you could unscrew every other bulb > >and cover the socket with electrical tape. You can go with individual > >flicker bulbs or buy and build a flicker/shimmering kit from any electronics > >supply house. With a kit, and whole strand would shimmer together, while > >individual bulbs would be, well individual. :) > > Are these lights electric? I've never seen them, that would be cool. Yes there 110V. 175 watts per strand. > Is there a major chain that carries them out of Christmas season? (I live in > San Jose). If you buy them as "Christmas" lights out of season, you will pay a fortune. I would imagine most bulb stores would have these. Looking under "Light Bulbs & Tubes" in the yellow pages, I see a couple that would have them. Bulb Store 408-737-2852 Brilliant Lighting Products 415-952-3255 Call around, see what they have. Heck Home Depot may even have them. These I'm sure would be more than buying them during Christmas, or even better after at 75% off. I do remember Walmart having them for 4 for .80 after Christmas. Hope this helps! don bertino@netcom.com ____/^\_____________________________________ Disney ascii art & / \ || FDC MCP || / \ animations are at <______\ [] [] [] || [] [] [] || [] [] [] /______> http://www.calweb.com \----------------||----------||----------------/=== /~bertino===============\______________||__________||______________/===== From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 10 09:35:01 1996 Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 08:14:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Bertino To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: where are you Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 9 Jul 1996, Lund wrote: > I used a slow rotating barbeque motor to activate (raise and lower) > Dracula in his coffin. I had to make an elliptical (sort of egg shaped) > wheel out of wood to attach to the working end of the motor. It works > great, I have the lightweight coffin leaning beside my front door at about > a 20 or 30 degree angle. Dracula is just a peice of styrofoam with a mask > on it. A hinged wooden track is mounted to the bottom of the coffin and > the loose end falls over the block of wood on the motor. The action of the > block of wood raises and lowers the track slowly. Small kids are scared to > death and so are a lot of grown ups. I keep it on continuously, but this > year I may activate automatically when people come to the door. Thanks Larry Where would we all be without rotissrie motors? :) don bertino@netcom.com ____/^\_____________________________________ Disney ascii art & / \ || FDC MCP || / \ animations are at <______\ [] [] [] || [] [] [] || [] [] [] /______> http://www.calweb.com \----------------||----------||----------------/=== /~bertino===============\______________||__________||______________/===== From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 10 14:39:45 1996 Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 16:33:43 -0700 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Punkies Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: What kind of tools do you use to carve partway through the pumpkin. Is there some kind of tool that I can buy? I have only carved completly through and I would like to try the other style this year. Kathy the new kid on the crypt From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 10 15:20:48 1996 Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 16:26:36 -0700 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Giant Skull... Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: I they say that I am a sick puppy. I love the idea of a medical supply store. I will try it next time. I can see the use of most of the things on your list, but why the collection bags?? Kathy the new kid on the crypt From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 10 15:43:35 1996 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 20:13:38 +0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: grizelda@vianet.on.ca (Ron Orr) Subject: Re: Growing moss on decorations Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: > I've heard that if you mix moss you find growing on a rock or tree with >milk (I think?) in a blender, you then have a concoction that can be painted >on to surfaces. If kept wet and shaded this mixture will grow moss on just >about anything. >Denny Ooh! Ooh! I know this one! The trick is apparently to use _buttermilk._ You dig up the stuff you want (I assume it's _lichen,_ not moss; the lime-green stuff that grows up the sides of stone buildings, right?) and mix it carefully in a blender with the buttermilk. I think it's supposed to pour on; anyway, the buttermilk acts as a binder and food until the lichen/moss/whatever gets hold on where you put it. Some garden railroaders of the old-and-worn-look school (the equipment, not them...) use thisb technique to get plant m aterial growing in the fine ballast between the rails. Surprisingly, it isn't too badly affected by the sun, but again, it could be because they used the more-resistant lichens. Ron gathering no moss From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 10 17:39:56 1996 Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 22:17:39 -0700 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: OK gang Help Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: You end your message with one of the greatest sayings in the world as far as I am concerned. I read that every time I walk into Disneyland. It is so true. Thanks for the ideas. Kathy the new kid on the crypt From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 10 18:09:53 1996 From: Stuart_McIntire_at_AISDC@ccsmtp.uage.com Date: Tue, 09 Jul 96 16:51:24 EST To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re[2]: OK gang Help Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Kathy, Complete instructions for pop-up ghosts are in the halloween-l archives. Good luck! - Stu ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: OK gang Help Author: halloween-l@netcom.com at Internet Date: 7/9/96 4:43 PM Bobby R. You are one step ahead of me what is the pop up ghost? And since you said it worked well tell me how to do it. PLEASE!!! Any action is better than no action at all. I have seen some books to but the prices are really high. I was wondering if I could use the internet Library to look animatronics up. Any ideas? Waiting to hear from you. Kathy the new kid on the crypt From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 10 18:45:33 1996 From: Stuart_McIntire_at_AISDC@ccsmtp.uage.com Date: Tue, 09 Jul 96 13:07:57 EST To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Help plan a Halloween Wedding Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: No $$$ constraints?!? I'd try to get hitched at the Haunted Mansion at Disneyland/World if at all possible! ;) - Stu ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Help plan a Halloween Wedding Author: halloween-l@netcom.com at Internet Date: 7/9/96 12:58 PM I just got email from someone who is interested in help planning a halloween wedding. He/she is looking for ideas for a coustume wedding and ideas for thebridal party and grooms men, music, cake for decorations and center pieces etc. Does anyone have suggestions??? The wedding isnt until 1997, and I wasnt given any $$$ limits...so what do ya think? Trix From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 10 19:09:29 1996 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 13:33:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Marsha Michie To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Punkies Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 8 Jul 1996, Lauren Jones wrote: > Tim writes: > > > Yeah,I heard that story about the turnips. > > Now, I would hate to have to do the > > complex drawings I do these days on one of > > them! > > Since you don't carve through the faces of > punkies (turnip lanterns), only scratch > through the thin skin, you might be able to > do even more complex drawings (except that > your "canvas" would be a lot smaller)! :-) There is an upscale restaurant here that uses small pie-size pumpkins for table decorations for October. They use the process you're describing - making relatively complex patterns that don't go all the way through the skin, and then burning a candle inside to show up the design. It's a really lovely effect, one that would be hard to do with a larger pumpkin. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marsha Michie michie@utk.edu | http://aztec.lib.utk.edu/~michie/ From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 10 19:15:06 1996 From: milwiron@btprod.com Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 15:34:47 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Growing moss on decorations Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: At 08:12 AM 7/9/96 -0700, Don wrote: >> There's a "how-to" haunted house video called... >Hi Denny! >Man, the list is really heating up. It's great! >I was thinking of buying the video from you, sheesh..... Next year, it will >be less thinking and more buying.... :) > Hey Don, Yup, the participants of this list should all be proud of their contributions and accomplishments. It's not easy for anyone to keep the Halloween spirit going all year with work loads, family commitments and wondering spouses. One of my customers (are you on this list yet Bob?) asked me today what my wife thought about all of this... she thinks I'm nuts. Like geez, am I the only person in the neighborhood building a radio controlled spider? Denny B.T. Productions' Terror By Design Haunt Supplies & Scare Wares From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 10 19:27:00 1996 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 14:31:11 -0700 (PDT) To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: rrhill@ucdavis.edu (Rick Hill) Subject: Re: Inexpensive One-way Mirror Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: >Great posting from Rick Hill! I've just started working on this >same angle again, and am leaning the same way: Mylar film on a >frame, as an inexpensive, lightweight, partial mirror (or full >mirror, for that matter.) > >I think the real trick is going to be getting the film stretched >*tight* and flat, on a sufficiently rigid frame. For a large >mirror - several feet on a side - this could be a real problem. >I'm going to try something like the following: Build an open >(top & bottom) box, like a waterbed frame, from 1X lumber. This >will be the four "sides" of the hallway or whatever. Attach the >film with some form of stretcher bars, if possible, to the open >faces of the box. May have to break down and use glue here, which >makes the assembly tough to break down and store... To keep the >long sides of the box from bowing in, attach 1x2 or 1x4 on the >outsides, on edge, to make the sides 'T' or 'U' sections. > >Now, if the film could be atteched to separate structures, like >canvas stretcher bars, they could be lightly attached to the >box, and the box probably wouldn't need additional external >bracing. This would also give you two flat picture frame >assemblies to wrap and store, and a box that could be broken >down. > >Later!! > >Dave >dbell@cup.portal.com I'm sorta thinking that you build two frames. Holes through the corners allow them to be bolted together "face to face". Then, either cut a groove in the face of one frame (or both) and run rubber tubing in it OR run a bead of silcone rubber sealer on both faces OR adhere sheets of rubber (like dental dam) to both faces. Now, lay the film on the rubberized side of one of the frames, align the other frame rubberized side toward the film, lightly bolt the two frames together, pull the film until taught, firmly bolt the frames together. The rubberized surfaces hold the film in place. This is the approach I am trying. If it works, the frames can be constructed out of 1X and hinges at their corners, since they will gain ridigity when bolted together. Pull the hinge pins and you have 8 pieces of 1X to store. Also, these appraoches should leave the film undamaged, so it can be rolled up and stored in a packing tube until next year! Richard Hill Computer Operations Manager Office Phone: (916) 757-3002 UCD Bookstore FAX: (916) 757-3010 UC Davis E-Mail: rrhill@ucdavis.edu From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 10 20:06:03 1996 Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 22:21:29 -0700 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Re[2]: Growing moss on decorations Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Stu, You would not believe how many catalogs I now have in my house. The difference in prices can be as much as 100% markup. If you do some shopping you can usually get the original supplier. Talk later Kathy From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Thu Jul 11 01:11:01 1996 Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 06:54:35 -0600 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Halloween Antiques Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: My incoming Internet mail wasn't working yesterday, so I'm trying to catch up this morning! Over the weekend, I finally got to go through a book I bought last winter (bibliographic info below) and really got into the Halloween mood (okay, so it's post-4th-of-July--the traditional beginning of Halloween season)! Anyway, the book contains Halloween decorations, postcards, costumes, partyware, etc., from before the turn of the century through ~1970, and I was in Halloween heaven. I have a few old cutouts that were given to me as antiques when I was a child, and I have a few antique postcards. The artwork on some of this stuff is incredible, although the subject matter is often very different than modern themes. I discovered that one of my old homemade decorations was popular around the turn of the century (20th...we're going to have to specify this soon!), although I used modern materials. If you want to see what your ancestors thought about Halloween (they apparently LOVED it!), check out this book. I picked up my copy at G Street Fabrics on Rockville Pike in Maryland, for you DC suburban types. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Halloween in America: A Collector's Guide With Prices. 1995. Stuart Schneider. Schiffer Publishing, Ltd. 0-887-40707-2 $29.95 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Thu Jul 11 02:21:00 1996 Date: Wed Jul 10 11:33:32 1996 From: nd8748@sunams.usma.army.mil (McKiernan Diane) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: where are you Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Please help me unsubscribe to this list. Thanks! From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Thu Jul 11 03:12:18 1996 Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 11:41:49 +0100 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: makeup@earthlink.net (Tad Peters) Subject: Re[2]: Growing moss on decorations Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: snip > > A good dungeon should have the requisite torture > devices at the very least. How about a rack that > actually s-t-r-e-t-c-h-e-s the victim? Don't for- > get to add rats and bats, sound effects, and a > smoldering cauldron of hot coals... > > Now if you want to make your dungeons like the > "pros," >snip There is a company out here called Straight From The Grave, that manufactures and sells wall pieces that are 18"x30" of molded stone-looking stuff. They sell each piece for $7.00. You can order from us if you need these high quality, professional looking stone slabs for decorating any hauted house wall. Tad Tad Peters A. Harlequin Costume makeup@earthlink.net 9589 Foothill Blvd http://home.earthlink.net/~makeup Rancho Cucamonga, CA 91730 murphy_for_congress@desktop.tyrell.com (909) 948-2950 From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Thu Jul 11 04:34:23 1996 From: milwiron@btprod.com Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 07:54:27 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Growing moss/Safety Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: At 04:08 PM 7/9/96 -0400, Tony wrote: >I'd recommend cardboard. In case of a fire, plastic walls give off poisonous >fumes, while cardboard just burns without fumes... >(in terms of a dungeon with plastic walls) > Hey Tony, Thanks for bringing up safety. I tried to raise the issue a few months ago and only a couple of people joined in. In 1984, 8 customers were killed in a fire that swept through the Haunted Castle at Six Flags Great Adventure in New Jersey. Very few flame retardant building materials were used in its' construction. The fire was started by a teenage customer using a cigarette lighter to illuminate his way through a maze portion of the attraction. I've seen more than my share of haunted houses and small personal "home" haunts where the scariest thing was taking my family in and wondering if all the plastic and cardboard was going to catch fire from someone with a Bic lighter or an extension cord nailed into a wall. It would be a nice addition to Darlene's haunted house registry to include which haunts met local, minimum safety codes. Later, Denny B.T. Productions' Terror By Design Haunt Supplies & Scare Wares From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Thu Jul 11 04:47:06 1996 Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 07:21:39 -0700 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Help plan a Halloween Wedding Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: I am a wedding photographer and this is right up my alley. Give me a little while to work on this. I will come up with some great ideas for the bride to be. Kathy the new kid on the crypt From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Thu Jul 11 04:57:03 1996 From: "D. Joseph Creighton" Subject: Let me pick your brains (yummy)... To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 10:56:57 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Hee hee... 'tis almost time... As an aside: is everyone else here like me in that they're far more hyper over Hallowe'en than they ever were as kids during Christmas? 8-) I think we have a theme for this year, but I need an idea or two in order to flesh it out (pun intended). Note that I'm being intentionally vague here so that when we all share our stories afterwards, mine will be fresh reading. :) We'd like some ideas on how to liven up a graveyard, since it will be the center of activity and focal point for this year (if weather permits, the kids won't even be reaching the house). We have tombstones -- I'll even be making more -- and lots of plastic "wrought iron" fencing to give it a nice look. But there aren't really any trees around to permit something like a flying ghost setup, so whatever your suggestions, they should probably be as self-contained as possible. Oh, and I've already checked the archives. :) Thanks. - Joe -- "Crazy, joy-riding cyber punks..." -- Cyber Fuzz, _Outland_ by B. Breathed http://www.ee.umanitoba.ca/~djc/ D. Joseph Creighton [ESTP]\ Sr. Programmer, DB Support: Administrative Systems Joe_Creighton@UManitoba.CA \ University of Manitoba Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Thu Jul 11 05:45:34 1996 Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 18:23:15 -0700 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Growing moss on decorations Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Your building a radio controlled spider. How did I miss that message. Want all details. Sounds really cool. My husband just came in the door with a hydraulic pump and I have plans for a very BIG ghost on the top of the house. One that goes up and down with lights on it. Boy are the neighbors going to love me. I think our spouses need to start a support group, so they can know that they are not the only ones suffering from this insanity. Kathy the new kid on the crypt From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Thu Jul 11 08:34:45 1996 Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 08:02:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Bertino To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Unsubscribe instructions Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 10 Jul 1996, McKiernan Diane wrote: > Please help me unsubscribe to this list. (I have unsubscribed her from the list) To unsubscribe from the halloween-l list, please send mail to listserv@netcom.com with unsubscribe halloween in the body of the post. don bertino@netcom.com ____/^\_____________________________________ Disney ascii art & / \ || FDC MCP || / \ animations are at <______\ [] [] [] || [] [] [] || [] [] [] /______> http://www.calweb.com \----------------||----------||----------------/=== /~bertino===============\______________||__________||______________/===== From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Thu Jul 11 11:54:19 1996 Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 06:58:40 -0600 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Giant Skull... -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: All this talk of giant skulls reminds me of the skull slide on Skull Island at Six Flags Over Texas years ago. Now *that* was a giant skull... From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Thu Jul 11 12:02:48 1996 Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 07:09:17 -0600 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Low-Tech Movement Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: One year, we had a department store dummy in costume and mask set up under a tree, surrounded by huge spider webs spun by a friend who brought in scaffolding to do 20-30 ft orbs. While he was up in one of the trees, he asked if I wanted the dummy's arm to move (actually, an empty sleeve--the arm was coming up out of a grave several yards back). All he did was run 50 lb fish line (the old invisible black stuff you can't find anymore) from the cuff of the robe up and forward through a crotch in a tree limb overhead, then back to the front porch. All you had to do was tug on this line from several yards away, and the dummy's arm would move forward. To make it better? worse? We tied the cuff to a lantern so that the dummy would thrust the lantern out toward the guests. This would always happen just as the people waiting in line would have come to a concensus that it was only a dummy because of the thing's feet. From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Thu Jul 11 19:09:03 1996 Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 21:48:04 -0500 From: "Bobby R." To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Spinning 'Twilightish' Spiral Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Hello again, I had some time so I thought I'd describe a simple little effect I did last year. I know most of the people on this list are more sophisticated than this, but... here goes. During my search for a motor to run my floating ghost last year, a friend gave me an old sewing machine motor... not big enough for the ghost circuit. But... After adding a switch from the local hardware store to control the speed of the motor I began construction of my wheel. I bought a 4 foot square, 1 inch thick piece of styrofoam and cut a perfect circle out of it, painted it black. Then I painted on several spirals spinning out from the center of the disk to the edge. I used flourecent colors... orange and green I think. Almost done. I tried affixing my foam wheel directly to the sewing machine motor shaft but it the styrofoam wasn't strong enough to take the spinning. So... I crafted a 6 inch disk from 1 inch pine scrap. And then bored a hole in the center where the sewing machine shaft would snugly fit. Next I bored out about a 6 inch circle in the center of the back side about half way through the styrofoam and hotglued the wooden disk into the hole. It's important to get the shaft in the exact middle or your spiral will wobble. So be careful when glueing in the wooden disk. Since my party was in the basement I was able to fasten some boards from the ceiling to about mid-wall. I mounted my motor on the boards, then hung my black plastic sheets to cover the motor and mouting brackets, then affixed my spinning wheel. My whole basement was flooded with flourecent black lights so the colors glowed brightly as the wheel spun. In the end I had a variable speed 'Floating Spinning Spiral'... looked a lot like something out of the Twilight Zone beginning. Clear? Hope so. Bobby R. -- bobbyr@ix.netcom.com "Nobody's listening, they're just waiting to talk" From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Thu Jul 11 20:25:53 1996 Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 05:20:23 -0700 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Re[2]: OK gang Help Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Thanks Stu, can use all the help I can get. Kathy the new kid on the crypt From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Fri Jul 12 04:10:02 1996 Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 09:10:49 +0100 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Lisa Marie Peterson Subject: cauliflower brain Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Last night my brother-in-law told me about a "cauliflower brain" that he used to make, and it sounds pretty easy... Soak a cauliflower head in tomato juice for about two days - At this point the cauliflower will be pink, and will have swelled a little. All of the little bumps should be smooth, but you will still see the different "sections" of the brain. The squiggley "brain lines" are drawn on with red paint (I'm not sure what kind of paint, I will check). Apparently this looks quite realistic and discusting from a short distance. Lisa Marie ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Lisa Marie Peterson Ph. 408-467-4626 Administrative Asst. - CellAccess Division Fax 408-451-9361 FORE Systems, Incorporated peterson@fore.com 2115 O'Nel Drive, San Jose, CA 95131 : ) ; ) : ) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Fri Jul 12 04:23:18 1996 Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 05:39:41 -0700 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Re[2]: Growing moss on decorations Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Is Straight from the grave in your area. I live in Sonoma and would love to check that store out. I have gone to your site and filled out your form. If you have a catalog I would love to have it. How far are you from Sonoma? Kathy the new kid on the crypt From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Fri Jul 12 04:39:15 1996 From: Stuart_McIntire_at_AISDC@ccsmtp.uage.com Date: Thu, 11 Jul 96 10:04:26 EST To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Let me pick your brains (yummy)... Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Joe, We'd like some ideas on how to liven up a graveyard... O.K., Joe, you've forced my hand... :) Here's what you do. Set yourself up with some animated figures. These are both for the shock/surprise effect with slightly different approaches, so pay close attention. You need to coordinate jaw movements and words. The first figure lays there looking deader than a door- nail. No movement. As the "victims" approach, they hear something very faint, a little high-pitched. Is that the "dummy" talking? They lean over for a closer look. Again, that high-pitched noise. <..."oil can... oil can!..."> Then WHAM! The figure sits bolt upright all at once! Maniacal laughter is an option here. Be sure to have plenty of bathroom tissue on hand... Second figure. Also coordinated jaw movement/sound, this time the movement first, then the words. As the victims approach, the figure sits up (make sure these movements are fairly dramatic - you need them to REALLY jump) and says "OY! Ten THOUSAND years will give you SUCH a crick in the neck!" All dreamed up while I was in a fairly whimsical mood last night...I KNEW someone would give me a chance to use it right away! Oh, and I've already checked the archives. :) Oh sure, Joe. The archive police have already surrounded your home...there's no escape... - Evil and Demented Doc Stu From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Fri Jul 12 05:13:04 1996 From: Stuart_McIntire_at_AISDC@ccsmtp.uage.com Date: Thu, 11 Jul 96 18:22:32 EST To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re[3]: Growing moss on decorations Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Tad, >There is a company out here called Straight From The Grave... O.K., Tad, you've certainly piqued my interest... Do you have an address/phone number/website URL? Do they offer a catalog of any sort? - Stu From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Fri Jul 12 05:34:39 1996 From: Stuart_McIntire_at_AISDC@ccsmtp.uage.com Date: Thu, 11 Jul 96 15:55:23 EST To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re[2]: Giant Skull... -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: >All this talk of giant skulls reminds me of >the skull slide on Skull Island at Six Flags >Over Texas years ago. Now *that* was a giant >skull... I was always intrigued by the Phantom's Skull Cave. As far as I was concerned (as a ten- year old, anyway), it was the coolest home imagineable (maybe topped only by the Batcave, of course). And I haven't even gone to see the movie yet... :( From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Fri Jul 12 06:13:24 1996 Date: Thu Jul 11 07:29:37 1996 From: nd8748@sunams.usma.army.mil (McKiernan Diane) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: RCPT OF: Re: where are you Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: nd8748 received your mail >Subject: Re: where are you >Date: 10Jul 11:33:32 1996 From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Fri Jul 12 06:27:21 1996 Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 06:37:13 -0600 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Punkies, Flicker Bulbs Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Michael Marcrum writes (Kathy?): > What kind of tools do you use to carve > partway through the pumpkin. Is there > some kind of tool that I can buy? I bought a kit with tools and patterns to do this one year. If I remember correctly, the tools were like clay sculpting tools: differently shaped and width wire loops on wooden handles. It really worked out very well. The trick was to scrape off the skin and some of the rind in the areas you wanted to light, then scrape at the rind from the inside enough to make those areas translucent while leaving the rest of the pumpkin opaque. The other part of the trick was to use 2 or 3 candles inside to provide enough light. Flicker bulbs--I've only seen then in C7 and standard/Edison base, not in C9. Like to have some of those, too, if available. I've been keeping my eyes out for flicker bulbs in the DC/MD/VA area, but haven't seen any C7s yet. The standard base variety are available for $3.99 at The Lamp Shop in Wheaton Plaza, MD year-round. If you can wait until after Christmas (or even the pre-Christmas sales), the prices are at least 1/2. The only problem here is that the flickers are hard to come by after the fact. From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Fri Jul 12 06:29:09 1996 From: Stuart_McIntire_at_AISDC@ccsmtp.uage.com Date: Thu, 11 Jul 96 08:47:03 EST To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re[2]: Growing moss on decorations Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Have at her, Denny! ;) - Especially Evil Doc Stu :) ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Growing moss on decorations Author: halloween-l@netcom.com at Internet Date: 7/11/96 8:41 AM Your building a radio controlled spider. How did I miss that message. Want all details. Sounds really cool. My husband just came in the door with a hydraulic pump and I have plans for a very BIG ghost on the top of the house. One that goes up and down with lights on it. Boy are the neighbors going to love me. I think our spouses need to start a support group, so they can know that they are not the only ones suffering from this insanity. Kathy the new kid on the crypt From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Fri Jul 12 09:33:09 1996 From: milwiron@btprod.com Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 12:31:43 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Hydraulics and Halloween Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: At 06:23 PM 7/10/96 -0700, Kathy wrote: > My husband just came in the door >with a hydraulic pump and I have plans for a very BIG ghost on the top of >the house. Hi Kathy, Must be one big, HEAVY ghost. If nobody else is gonna bite, I guess I'll ask. What the heck are you going to do with a hydraulic pump for Halloween? Denny B.T. Productions' Terror By Design Haunt Supplies & Scare Wares From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Fri Jul 12 09:34:40 1996 From: milwiron@btprod.com Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 10:22:55 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Growing moss on decorations Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: At 06:23 PM 7/10/96 -0700, you wrote: >Your building a radio controlled spider. How did I miss that message. >Want all details. Sounds really cool. (much deleted) >Kathy >the new kid on the crypt Hi Kathy, I thought everyone wanted to hear about low tech Halloween stuff. Boris is 20 inches long by 15 inches wide and 10 inches tall. He walks by octapedal (is that a word??) action of all his legs. The radio is a 6 channel Futaba, though only 2 channels are in actual use thus far for forward, reverse, speed control, left and right. The other channels may be utilized later for sound, pinchers and shooting webs (Silly String). Turning by differential action of the left and right sets of legs works but on really rough surfaces such as in the lawn he starts tripping over himself putting un-needed extra stress on his gearing. Final steering may be changed to a hidden, steerable tailwheel in his butt. I've done mechanical engineering and product development all of my adult life, mainly for the toy industry. Boris is just an offshoot of many past projects. Denny B.T. Productions' Terror By Design Haunt Supplies & Scare Wares From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Fri Jul 12 10:04:05 1996 Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 08:22:32 -0700 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Hydraulics and Halloween Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Hubby says that it came from a old car and was used to operate the convertable top. I am sure that it is to much power for what I am planning, but my husband has this gleam in his eyes and I think the area really could be in trouble. He said something about giant dragon. Every been at the Excalibur in Vegas??? BIG DRAGON!! If you have any other ideas please send them. Kathy the new kid on the crypt From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Fri Jul 12 13:29:48 1996 From: TonyGJr@aol.com Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 16:14:24 -0400 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Growing moss/Safety Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: What would be the best materials for walls then? I would go for cardboard, personally, but I don't know how to fireproof the stuph. I heard of the Great Adventure fire, a truly tragic occurrance. Lots of ride safety codes changed because ofthat incident. Older wooden dark rides and walk throughs have been scrapped inf avor of the newer all metal units. From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Fri Jul 12 14:08:58 1996 From: Stuart_McIntire_at_AISDC@ccsmtp.uage.com Date: Thu, 11 Jul 96 16:49:47 EST To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Photos Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Kathy, One of the great things about this list is that we get people from all walks of life and all types of backgrounds... I've been struggling with this one for the past couple of Halloweens. I saw in a book a long time ago a special effect where you use your camera to create a ghost image out of a person. Can this be done with a Polaroid? - Stu From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Fri Jul 12 14:44:35 1996 From: milwiron@btprod.com Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 10:22:57 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Growing moss on decorations Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: At 08:13 PM 7/9/96 +0500, you wrote: > Ooh! Ooh! I know this one! > > The trick is apparently to use _buttermilk._ You dig up the stuff >you want (I assume it's _lichen,_ not moss; the lime-green stuff that grows >up the sides of stone buildings, right?) and mix it carefully in a blender >with the buttermilk.... Hey thanks Ron, Lichen... moss...? That's a tough one for me, it's green fuzzy stuff found growing outside, not on bread. I'm gonna give it a try. Thanks much, Denny B.T. Productions' Terror By Design Haunt Supplies & Scare Wares From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Fri Jul 12 18:48:39 1996 Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 08:24:58 -0700 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Growing moss on decorations Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Sounds great, please take pictures so we can all see it when you are done. That is the sort of thing I want to try but I don't know where to start. I am looking for what I need just to make a body twist left and right at the waist and the arms go up and down. Any ideas? Kathy the new kid on the crypt From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Fri Jul 12 19:39:57 1996 From: milwiron@btprod.com Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 18:05:19 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Roof top ghost, was Growing moss Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: At 06:23 PM 7/10/96 -0700, Kathy wrote: > I have plans for a very BIG ghost on the top of >the house. One that goes up and down with lights on it. Boy are the >neighbors going to love me. Sounds like something many of us would like to do. How and what did you make the ghost out of, how does it go up and down? Denny From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Fri Jul 12 19:49:52 1996 Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 23:39:00 -0500 From: Jason R To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Growing moss/Safety Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: > the plastic and cardboard was going to catch fire from someone with a Bic > lighter or an extension cord nailed into a wall. > Well, I can safely say that after 5 years of doing this NOT ONCE have I ever had any problems. A note though on extensions cords.. Bascily the longer the run of the cord, the thicker gauge wire it should be made out of. Long runs should be avoided if possable, and if a cord gets warm, that isnt to good of a sign. Jay -Who is wishing that extra 3400 amp service would get installed so i can fire up the argon lasers. -- Jason R Member FDC {Beach Club lighting tech} VRC Homepage, Use it to find out ALL your Disney info needs. --Http://www.vivanet.com/~thelazer -- "I told'em the truth, and they fell for it"-Harry Anderson. From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Sat Jul 13 00:27:06 1996 From: Stuart_McIntire_at_AISDC@ccsmtp.uage.com Date: Fri, 12 Jul 96 18:02:59 EST To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: That < little > Extra Detail Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Hi, folks. For a nice touch to add to your haunt/mini-haunt, I recalled seeing this at the trade show in Chicago... Most Craft supply stores sell those pre-routered wooden plaques. They also sell pre-cut letters from wood. Lastly, they sell the different paint kits that allow you to simulate marble, antiquing and stone. Make yourself signs for mounting wherever you'd like. Some great suggestions are: Morgue, Asylum, Cemetary, etc. You get the idea. Now paint them up in whatever finish you'd like. I particularly liked the stone finish. You might even add those little wooden plugs painted a steel gray or some such color to simulate masonry nails or bolts. Think like the pros! Details, details, details! Have fun... - Stu From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Sat Jul 13 05:00:59 1996 Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 12:05:55 +0100 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: makeup@earthlink.net (Tad Peters) Subject: Re: Hydraulics and Halloween Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: >Hubby says that it came from a old car and was used to operate the >convertable top. I am sure that it is to much power for what I am >planning, but my husband has this gleam in his eyes and I think the area >really could be in trouble. He said something about giant dragon. Every >been at the Excalibur in Vegas??? BIG DRAGON!! If you have any other >ideas please send them. >Kathy >the new kid on the crypt Why not go for poltergiest and just move the house!! Tad Peters A. Harlequin Costume makeup@earthlink.net 9589 Foothill Blvd http://home.earthlink.net/~makeup Rancho Cucamonga, CA 91730 murphy_for_congress@desktop.tyrell.com (909) 948-2950 From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Sat Jul 13 05:08:06 1996 Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 12:05:49 +0100 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: makeup@earthlink.net (Tad Peters) Subject: Re[3]: Growing moss on decorations Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: >Tad, > >>There is a company out here called Straight From The Grave... > > O.K., Tad, you've certainly piqued my interest... > Do you have an address/phone number/website URL? > > Do they offer a catalog of any sort? > > - Stu No catalog, and we are thier contact to the outisde world. Following is the complete catalog: item description price 1001 10" tall Tombstone (1" thick) 3.75 1002 10" tall Tombstone (2" thick) 5.25 1003 24" tall Tombstone Asst. (2" thick) 13.75 1004 36" tall Tombstone (4" thick) 22.98 1005 48" tall Tombstone (5" thick) 24.98 2001 2' tall coffin 25.98 2002 4' tall coffin 55.98 2003 6' tall coffin 75.98 2004 2' tall coffin (lid only) 17.98 2005 4' tall coffin (lid only) 34.98 2006 6' tall coffin (lid only) 49.98 3001 HANGING PLATFORM 149.98 3002 GUILLOTINE (FULL 6'3" TALL) 149.98 Will be on the web page very soon. Tad Tad Peters A. Harlequin Costume makeup@earthlink.net 9589 Foothill Blvd http://home.earthlink.net/~makeup Rancho Cucamonga, CA 91730 murphy_for_congress@desktop.tyrell.com (909) 948-2950 From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Sat Jul 13 05:17:12 1996 From: Stuart_McIntire_at_AISDC@ccsmtp.uage.com Date: Fri, 12 Jul 96 13:20:18 EST To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Want To Impress The Neighbors? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Hey Kathy, You know, I may or may not get around to doing this by this Halloween, but *some day*..... If you want to impress friends and neighbors, there's nothing like a good old-fashioned Jacob's Ladder. A requisite prop in all the old horror movies in the mad scientist-type labs, the Jacob's Ladder is a really cool effect. I'm no electrician and have never built one, but as I understand, it in- volves such simple and easy-to-find parts as a neon sign transformer and wire coat hangers... My best advice? (Familiar refrain) - check out the archives. There's a whole section on the Jacob's Ladder! Have fun and good luck... - Stu From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Sat Jul 13 07:25:48 1996 From: milwiron@btprod.com Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 08:33:25 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: How To Operate A Haunted House book Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Hey All, The book- How To Operate A Financially Successful Haunted House by Phil Morris has been printed a couple of times. I've only seen the last printed version from 1988. Does anyone have "both" or all of the printings? What are the differences between them? Were any effects left out of later printings? I think I remember Stu mentioning a spiral bound version, were other bindings done? Somebody jes' gotta know. Denny B.T. Productions' Terror By Design Haunt Supplies & Scare Wares From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Sat Jul 13 07:32:54 1996 From: milwiron@btprod.com Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 07:52:00 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: RE: Growing moss / wall pieces Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: At 05:39 AM 7/11/96 -0700, Kathy wrote: >Is Straight from the grave in your area. I live in Sonoma and would love >to check that store out. I have gone to your site and filled out your >form. If you have a catalog I would love to have it. How far are you from >Sonoma? >Kathy How about a full, detailed report back to the list on what you find out Kathy? What are the wall pieces made out of, quality, durability, styles, delivery times, etc. The prices seem very fair. The sooner you can give us a report the better since many of us are trying to get things buttoned down before it's too late to get orders in. Denny From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Sat Jul 13 07:40:47 1996 Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 07:59:42 -0700 (PDT) To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: "David \"HOMER\" Simpson (or one of the Clan)" Subject: Just Another Freak... Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Hey everyone, I'm new around here and I just wanted to say that this is great. Up until a couple of weeks ago, I thought I was a freak for thinking, planning, and building Halloween all year 'round. Well, I guess I'm still a freak, but at least now I'm in good company. >8) Anyways, here's a little about me... I've been building haunted houses for about 13 years now, and have a huge collection of room designs and props. Most of what I have done has been small-scale effects and grand illusions for halloween parties I throw each year, but I've helped build and/or work the major attractions around here... (ie: G.Y.R.O.'s World Of Terror, The ScareGrounds, World's Largest Haunted House, and the Haunted woods...) I'm here looking for new ideas, designs, and tricks, as well as to share my designs and ideas with anyone interested. :) This is gonna be fun. --Jason From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Sat Jul 13 09:20:37 1996 Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 08:54:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Bertino To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Photos Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 11 Jul 1996 Stuart_McIntire_at_AISDC@ccsmtp.uage.com wrote: > Kathy, > > One of the great things about this list is that we get people from all walks > of life and all types of backgrounds... > > I've been struggling with this one for the past couple of Halloweens. I saw > in a book a long time ago a special effect where you use your camera to > create a ghost image out of a person. Can this be done with a Polaroid? Hi Stu! I sure it was done with a double exposure i.e. two shots, one negative. Most 35mm'ers will do this, I havn't seen a Polariod with with feature. Maybe take two pictures, combine them on a color copier? don bertino@netcom.com ____/^\_____________________________________ Disney ascii art & / \ || FDC MCP || / \ animations are at <______\ [] [] [] || [] [] [] || [] [] [] /______> http://www.calweb.com \----------------||----------||----------------/=== /~bertino===============\______________||__________||______________/===== From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Sat Jul 13 10:35:39 1996 From: Stuart_McIntire_at_AISDC@ccsmtp.uage.com Date: Fri, 12 Jul 96 17:51:58 EST To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re[2]: Growing moss on decorations Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Denny replies to Ron: >Hey thanks Ron, >Lichen... moss...? That's a tough one for me, it's green fuzzy stuff found >growing outside, not on bread. >I'm gonna give it a try. So Denny, now that you have the moss/lichen licked (Yecch!), are you going to ask about growing ivy up the side of a mausoleum??? :) - E.D. Stu