work for you. We made flyers out and took them to the schools are friends kids went to. It told our address and what we were doing, plus a easy map. We made it clear that we did not charge and that all treats were wrapped and sealed. We had over 250 kids last year and are hoping to break 300 this year. Just remember this, last year it started to rain about one hour before dark we had given it all up and were ready to say goodnight. Then the first kid showed up. His Dad said that he had been waiting all year to see what we were doing this year and he would not even think about missing it. If he had been the only kid it would have made it all worth while. Keep going, they will come :) Kathy new kid on the crypt From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Sat Jul 20 20:49:54 1996 From: Stuart_McIntire_at_AISDC@ccsmtp.uage.com Date: Fri, 19 Jul 96 10:41:13 EST To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re[2]: Growing moss/Safety Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Trix (and all), >Just catching up on my mail after a real busy week. This sounds like an >excellent idea, but how would I find out this info? Is there some kind of >checklist I could require before giving the "webbery seal of safety"? >Any thoughts? Trix I think Denny had a great idea, but I'm not so sure it's "do-able." As Denny pointed out, many haunts do not get inspected, or get a cursory inspection at best. The more temporary (esp. civic types) are often one evening affairs and if they get inspected, it's usually the opening night (or not long before). Also, I've had friends describe to me haunts that were "tamed down" safety wise until such time as they got their fire mar- shal approval - then they proceeded to slop around the buckets-o-blood, added more devices (hence, more cords to trip over), fire effects, etc. Basically, I think with the exception of the permanent mega-haunts, the safety approvals and track records are too mercurial - and too late-breaking to be of use on Halloween-O-Webbery...but my mind can be changed if anyone has some thoughts in the other direction! - Stu From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Sat Jul 20 20:53:05 1996 Date: Thu, 18 Jul 1996 10:58:07 -0700 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween Subject: Archives Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: I can not find my way back to the Archives. I need to do some research and for some reason I can not get there. Can somebody please give me the URL to the archive area. Thank You. Kathy new kid on the crypt From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Sat Jul 20 20:55:47 1996 From: Stuart_McIntire_at_AISDC@ccsmtp.uage.com Date: Thu, 18 Jul 96 18:19:51 EST To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re[2]: Another newbie. Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Gina/Kathy, and all: >Gina, >Welcome to the greatest Halloween list around. You have some great >ideas. I wish I could get my husband to get organized like you are. You >asked a great question and I hope someone has the answer. A pattern for a >body. If you get a reply please let me know. That would save a bundle on >trying to buy parts. Good luck with your Haunting. >Kathy >the new kid on the crypt Denny had the right idea. One of the suppliers at the Halloween trade show in Chicago offers the kind of dummies you're trying to achieve. If you follow Denny's post, you ought to have a pretty good idea how to make it. Truly, if I think I can make something, I'll avoid buying it to save $$$. These dummies look exactly the way Denny describes, so there's nothing special about them. I don't have the foggiest how to sew, but I'd learn (or die trying ;), or twist my wife's arm to make me some when they become necessary. I believe Bill Lewis has also posted messages about his attempts. Bill likes to use PVC for sturdiness. Cer- tainly works. He had quite an imposing figure in his front yard last year that held up quite well. A com- bination of both ideas (as I think Denny also mentioned) will make you quite a good, re-useable dummy to haul out for many occasions... :) - Stu From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Sat Jul 20 21:06:43 1996 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 14:23:44 -0700 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Growing moss on decorations Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Thanks Kevin, That sounds like a great idea. With some of these new paints you can really get a rock look. You could also use sponges to give a granite look. Let me take a guess at where you got your name.. Ghostbusters :)) Kathy the new kid on the crypt From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Sat Jul 20 21:10:35 1996 From: DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 12:37:29 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Jumping Out for Halloween To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Kathy, You wrote: >What is the Pepper Ghost Illusion?? Well, first off, I believe there is some info on this illusion at Don Bertino's site... (am I right?) I'll quote from the information I put with the writeup for my own version: ------------------------------------- ABOUT PEPPER'S GHOST A brief history follows, very loosely extracted from James Randi's book, Conjuring: In 1862, a Liverpool civil engineer named Henry Dircks constructed a miniature working model of the effect, probably similar in arrangement to the one in Disney's Haunted Mansion attraction. But it was John Henry Pepper, a chemistry professor at London Polytechnic Institute, who, having seen Dircks' model, built the first practical full-size version and exhibited it on stage in London. In the 1860's, magic lantern projector novelties were all the rage in London. Sensation-hungry Londoners (who tended to forget the last big fad or craze as soon as a newer, fresher novelty arrived on the scene) suddenly beheld the new and startling effect of a moving, transparent, three-dimensional ghost appearing next to and interacting freely with a real, solid human actor on an 'ordinary' stage. Pepper's Ghost had indeed materialized, and everyone forgot all about magic lantern shows. The illusion appeared in public demonstrations far and wide, as similar entertainments had before it. Eventually, the effect was incorporated into dramatic productions such as Hamlet, Macbeth, and Dickens' Christmas Carol. This progression seems natural, as special effects usually fare better in supporting roles than as stars in their own right. It should be noted that earlier records of a similar effect exist. A document from 1588 entitled Magica Naturalis mentions a Jean Baptiste Giambittista Della Porta, who apparently constructed one. It is my guess that the public just wasnUt ready for it at the time. *** One discovers, when reading about the many optical illusions presented to the public in the 18th and 19th centuries, that the main working principles of most all of them have wound up finding a permanent home with modern conjurers (or magicians); many also reside comfortably in the special effects departments of the stage and motion picture industries, and (last but certainly not least) amusement parks. Good, uncomplicated, and inexpensive effects never vanish entirely. You'll find DisneyUs Haunted Mansion using simple moving magic lantern slides in company with a Pepper's Ghost apparatus - in perfect harmony, and in full service to entertainment. HOW DOES PEPPER'S GHOST WORK? It's the essence of simplicity, and with careful control of lighting, the effect can be truly startling. The only gimmick in Pepper's Ghost is a single piece of glass, and that doesn't even move. In John Henry Pepper's version, the glass is usually set into a box, a four-legged frame, or similar structure, and is turned at a 45 degree angle to the viewer. You can visualize the piece of glass as a half-open door, or imagine it as one of the mirrors set into a periscope. This simple device forms an optical combiner. You can see straight through the glass, of course, but you can also see a semi-transparent image of any well-lit object placed directly to the right of the glass (in the example below) as if it were also in the space of the directly viewed scene. The two areas should be enclosed (save for the open end facing the glass), built to the same dimensions, have independently controlled lighting, and should be blocked from the view of the audience by scrims or other covering. There are any number of variations of this general effect, and they consist mainly of attempts to find novel ways to position the glass in relation to the viewer in order to make the gimmick less obvious. These include the use of half-silvered glass (two-way mirrors,) as in the Disney illusion which places a ghost next to a rider's reflection in a large mirror in the Haunted Mansion dark ride. The most well known 'serious' use of Pepper's Ghost is in the heads-up display in a fighter plane, where a 'ghostly' image of graphic flight and radar data floats before the pilot. ---------------------------- The Dircks version is the variant that the Haunted Ballroom uses. You are looking into one of several huge, very clean, pieces of glass. The ghosts are actually above and below your Tomb Buggy, and slightly behind it. You see their transparent reflections. >I also would love to know if there is a way to copy the crystal ball illusion Well, there is. It uses a smooth-front head-form, much like the one you start out with when building the Flying Crank Ghost. This becomes the screen for a movie projector (or a video projector.) You can put it in a clean glass ball, and the projection will go right through the glass to the head-form. Film an actor's face with a movie camera, and be sure all the area around that person's face is masked in flat black - velvet, or something similar. When the processed film is projectoe onto the form, you have your talking head. There are companies that will rent you this illusion. It has been years since I rented one... Perhaps someone reading this can supply the address of such a company. There you go. -Doug From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Sat Jul 20 21:20:32 1996 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 17:04:16 -0400 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: "j. barrett" Subject: Re: Test - Please respond Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: hi, i recd this and several other halloween stuff fri afternoon around 4:30, i had been on til 1:00 pm At 08:57 AM 7/18/96 PST, you wrote: > > I have been sending stuff to the list for the last couple of weeks and > getting no response. If you can read this, please post something to > the list regarding it or send me mail personally at: > > dsparks@ligand.com > > Your help is greatly appreciated :) > > Doug > dsparks@ligand.com > j. barrett Portsmouth, RI pattern swaps, handmade items for sale 7/15 new craft patterns located at http://www3.edgenet.net/~jbarrett/ many books/pamphlets/kits for sale or trade. From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Sat Jul 20 21:35:04 1996 From: milwiron@btprod.com Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 16:13:29 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Safety/Scotty back from Vegas Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: >> Stu, >> I get the idea and I will work with you to keep safety part of the >> workings on the list. Thanks for the support. Does Denny really have a >> Tattoo?? Kathy always is smiling back. > >I hear that Denny is covered with tattoos! He's hoping that it will >attract the attention of the youngsters that trick or treat as hookers. > >Sorry Denny....couldn't resist. Hey, aren't you the guy who disappeared without a word on a supposed biz trip to Vegas 3 months ago? I told you the showgirls wouldn't fall for that "son of Howard Hughes" story you came up with. and... I believe I'm trying to attract hookers that trick or treat as youngsters, not the other way around. ;) Denny From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Sat Jul 20 21:57:24 1996 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 17:10:40 -0700 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Disney's Haunted Mansion/Phanton Manor Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: I have sent several messages to the list but have seen none of them posted. Don if this gets through I lost all my bookmarks and can not get back to the archives. Can you help??? Did you get any of the mail I have sent to the list or to you? Kathy the new kid on the crypt From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Sat Jul 20 22:08:17 1996 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 96 20:25:27 -0700 (PDT) To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: bdosfx@wimsey.com (Brian D. Oberquell) Subject: Re: Flesh suggestion Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: > Along these lines, anyone here know of a way to do realistic looking > flesh at CHEAP prices? I want to do the head of the hanged man with > bulging eyes and slightly swollen face. Only problem is paper maiche > (sp) probably will look bad, but then again I don't think I can make > an alginate mold of my head and extrapolate. I've used liquid latex (the white /clear makeup type, not the red moulding rubber sold at craft stores) and blended it with acrylic pigments, or with universal colours that are sold at paint stores. Experimentation will show you the amounts you need. You can paint the mixture on sheet glass to get "pieces" that you can use as required (tip -- soak the brush in dish soap, then scrape the excess off the bristles; the latex won't stick to the brush and can be easily rinsed out). Some years ago I made a "glove" of burned flesh for a play -- I think I'll see if I can borrow it back from the guy I gave it to...it ought to go well with the skull that's been sitting in my kitchen window from last Halloween! ;-) Brian ______________________________________________________________________________ Brian D. Oberquell The Wizard's Den SPFX Studio 210 Cornell Way Port Moody, B.C. CANADA V3H 3W2 Phone (604) 931-6298 Pager (604) 895-3721 From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Sat Jul 20 22:11:24 1996 From: Stuart_McIntire_at_AISDC@ccsmtp.uage.com Date: Fri, 19 Jul 96 15:31:51 EST To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: catalog of interest Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Thanks, Kathy. When I'm not dressed up as a ghoul and scaring the doo-doo out of the kiddies, I put on my OTHER disguise as a responsible, caring adult PTA officer. Among my PTA roles have been fundraising and event plan- ning. Anderson's sounded like it was right up that alley which is why I re- quested the info... From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Sat Jul 20 22:19:41 1996 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 10:39:55 -0700 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: A Catalog Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Jason, they will ask for some kind of confirmation on the fact that you do own a company. They wanted a business care and resale #. I have these things but not knowing what is in the catalog I don't know if it is worth the hassle. Kathy the new kid on the crypt From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Sat Jul 20 22:23:23 1996 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 96 20:25:23 -0700 (PDT) To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: bdosfx@wimsey.com (Brian D. Oberquell) Subject: Re: Raise your bloody hands Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: > This weekend should mark my first attempt at making an alginate mold > to make rubber hands. Does anyone have any experience with this? I am > trying to get enough of a bend in my hands to make it look like the > hands are gripping something. I would like to remove my hands from > the mold also, and this is where the problem lies. Is there a safe > angle for the fingers in which I will still be able to remove my hands > and NOT destroy the mold? > > I was thinking about a grip like holding a soda can. I think that > gives me enough flexibility to use the hands around a stake later on. > > I don't believe I need to coat my hands as long as I remove them while > it is still slightly soft, but I am open to suggestions before I > become club-handed :) > > Doug > dsparks@ligand.com If you use something like a milk carton or box as a mother mould that's big enough to hold your hand while surrounding it with enough alginate, the easiest method is to remove the mould from around the alginte after it's set, then cut a slit in one side of the alginate with a dull knife or spatula and remove your hand; place the alginate back in the carton/box and pour your positive -- there may be a bit of a seam line on the positive but you can always sand that down...and that will also allow you the extra movement to flex your hand. You don't have to grease your hand, but if you're really hairy it's not difficult to put on just enough to keep the hairs down. I usually slick down eyebows/lashes when I do casts but I've found eyes are more sensitive than (most) hands. Brian ______________________________________________________________________________ Brian D. Oberquell The Wizard's Den SPFX Studio 210 Cornell Way Port Moody, B.C. CANADA V3H 3W2 Phone (604) 931-6298 Pager (604) 895-3721 From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Sat Jul 20 22:31:30 1996 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 15:48:41 -0400 From: dallan@dow.com (David Allan) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Homemade Fog vs. Commercial Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: I have read the instructions for the homemade fog machine and also noted the mention of the lower cost commercial versions. My question: does the homemade version put out as much fog as the cheap commercial versions? I priced a 150 W soldering iron as the heart of a homemade version at about $65, so I'm wondering if I should just consider spending a bit more for a compact, proven commercial model. Thanks. David (delurking for a moment) From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Sat Jul 20 22:36:42 1996 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 12:37:40 -0700 From: rothe@edsug.com (Bill Rothe - Tekware sys mgr) Subject: Re: Help plan a Halloween Wedding To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: I knew a couple that were planning to have an Addams Family Wedding at one time.... They were going to be Gomez & Morticia, with Cousin Itt as best , etc.etc.etc...... I think Fester was going to do the service.. Unfortunately, they broke up before the planning ever got off the ground.... But, it would've been a *truly* memorable wedding! -bill. From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Sat Jul 20 22:40:55 1996 From: Stuart_McIntire_at_AISDC@ccsmtp.uage.com Date: Fri, 19 Jul 96 13:08:29 EST To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re[2]: Spinning 'Twilightish' Spiral Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Bobby R. sez... >P.S. I noticed last week the first stirrings of life at the >SILO X up the street! The tarp came off the helicopter out >front and they were testing the red lights strung up on the >fence. (There's that fuzzy feeling again!) Bobby - Some associates of mine in Tempe, AZ visited the Silo-X mega haunt last year and had a blast. You may have read the threads regarding the setting up of a Haunt Registry on Halloween-O-Webbery (a highly recommended web site belonging to Trix - a longtime member of the mailing list). If at all possible, try to get the details for this Silo-X attraction and post them to the list so Trix can add it to her site. Our goal is to have the most comprehensive Halloween haunt listing anywhere. I have already forwarded something like 18 different mega- and mini- haunts (and everything in between). Let's make this a true nationwide directory! - Stu From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Sat Jul 20 22:43:57 1996 From: Stuart_McIntire_at_AISDC@ccsmtp.uage.com Date: Fri, 19 Jul 96 15:00:13 EST To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re[5]: Not much time left (grin) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Try this: http://ares.csd.net/malls/rmcm/costumes/contortions/distort.html - Stu ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re[4]: Not much time left (grin) Author: halloween-l@netcom.com at Internet Date: 6/26/96 10:38 AM Anyone have a number to get a catalog? Or god forbid a web page address? Doug ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Re[2]: Not much time left (grin) Author: halloween-l@netcom.com at gateway Date: 06/22/96 08:01 PM > Hi Jane! Welll....Tombstone Productions sells a vulture > (which, if I'm not mistaken, is made by Distortions) > which will run you a cool $135.00 - part number DU1150. > > I believe I saw it at the trade show...it's a pretty > large "latex/rubber/vinyl" type of guy. I didn't see > it on Distortion's web page, but they don't put all > the good stuff out there... Anything made by Distortions Unlimited (DU part numbers) can be pretty much counted on to be great quality. The problem is actually getting the stuff as they can never keep up with demand. Order DU stuff early!! Nathan ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Nathan Kahn Home: kahnn@pa.net Work: nathan@theatrefx.com Work Web: http://www.theatrefx.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Sat Jul 20 23:04:51 1996 Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 22:46:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Bertino To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Archives Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 18 Jul 1996, Michael Marcrum wrote: > I can not find my way back to the Archives. I need to do some research > and for some reason I can not get there. Can somebody please give me the > URL to the archive area. Thank You. It's http://www.calweb.com/~bertino to both. don bertino@netcom.com ____/^\_____________________________________ Disney ascii art & / \ || FDC MCP || / \ animations are at <______\ [] [] [] || [] [] [] || [] [] [] /______> http://www.calweb.com \----------------||----------||----------------/=== /~bertino===============\______________||__________||______________/===== From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Sat Jul 20 23:24:18 1996 From: DSparks@mercury.ligand.com Date: Fri, 19 Jul 96 14:46:04 PST To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: The spectre, part three, and last. Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Can you repost part two, I may have missed that somehow. Thanks, Doug Sparks dsparks@ligand.com From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Sat Jul 20 23:32:13 1996 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 96 16:55 PDT To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: rbradvica@lightside.com (R. Bradvica) Subject: Re: Photos Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: >Now, I haven't tried this (I have no Polaroid), but it might work. The >Instamatic film works by being exposed then an electric motor pushes the film >through some rollers which squishes the fixer onto the film. The reason that >a Polaroid won't work is that once it's exposed, the motor takes over & you >can't expose it again. What if you remove the battery from the camera, shoot >your first shot of a person, re-install the battery then shoot a black >background? Of course, you have to remove the battery in complete dark so the >film won't get exposed (I think the battery is in the same compartment as >the film.) >Just a thought. >roy. > actually i think that the battery is in the film. :( Robert From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Sat Jul 20 23:32:19 1996 From: Scott Axworthy Subject: Re: Re[2]: WRONG IDEA To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 13:48:57 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: DSparks@mercury.ligand.com writes: > > I am going to try the fog spitting pumpkins this year, and am looking > for a way to get a red or maybe blue light inside the pumpkin. Since > the fog will be travelling through the pumpkin's orifice, the colored > light would make an excellent addition to the effect. I hope to space > 3-4 pumpkins, attached in the back by dryer hose, to spew the fog out > into my yard. Any ideas on what to use for lighting the pumpkins? You will love the fog spewing pumpkins! When I originally did this it was indoors and I used a standard "screwbase-outlet on a cord" with a small round bulb. I stuck this in a small hole in the side of the pumpkin. The bulb could easily be replaced with a small colored bulb. If it is being used outdoors, I would be concerned with this type of cord. It was not grounded and had an exposed bulb. Maybe you could use a string of xmas bulbs and stuff about ten inside each pumpkin. Come to think of it, another neat possibility that would give you several other options as well and is much safer is to use outdoor low voltage garden lights. These come in many flavors and have small colored mini-condom like gels that can be placed over the bulbs. These systems are ideal for lighting your outdoor props as well. You could use the mini spots to light the front of your pumpkins and use the other bulbs inside the pumpkins. These systems set up very easy and you can clamp on bulbs anywhere along the wire that you need. They come with a power transformer that typically needs to stay out of the elements. Be sure to keep within the stated load of the transformer by not putting on too many lights, or it will be time to roast marshmellows. -Scott -- Scott Axworthy Phone: 206-649-7668 Cascade Design Automation Fax: 206-649-7600 scott@cdac.com http://www.cdac.com From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Sat Jul 20 23:37:09 1996 From: susie@execpc.com Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 14:25:48 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: From your knucklehead list manager.... To: xmas-l@netcom.com, xmas-l@netcom.com, halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Yeah, Don... we all like those dull toothaches :) <---- Begin Included Message ----> Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 10:03:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Bertino Reply-To: xmas-l@netcom.com Return-Path: owner-xmas-l@netcom.com Subject: From your knucklehead list manager.... To: xmas-l@netcom.com, halloween-l@netcom.com Hi All! I noticed today that I was getting near my 5.5mb quota, and was checking to see what was taking all my space, and WHAT!?!?! A file named "approve"? I setup the procmail filter to copy all the BOUNCE messages to a file named approve but could never get it working.... So I gave up 2 1/2 years ago. As of July 1, it started working again.... Unknown to me. So I have a bunch of files here that need to be approved and posted. About 4 for the xmas-l mailing list About 35 for the halloween-l mailing list My deep and sincere apologies about this. I have hacked the code out so it will be automatically sent to my normal mail folder. This mailing list is acting like it's haunted or something.... I kinda like it in a tooth ache kinda way.... :) don bertino@netcom.com ____/^\_____________________________________ Disney ascii art & / \ || FDC MCP || / \ animations are at <______\ [] [] [] || [] [] [] || [] [] [] /______> http://www.calweb.com \----------------||----------||----------------/=== /~bertino===============\______________||__________||______________/===== <---- End Included Message ----> Susie et in Arcadia ego From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Sat Jul 20 23:44:30 1996 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 16:25:12 -0700 From: rleach@porky.West.Sun.COM (Roy Leach) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: THIS PUMPKIN LIST Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: {Snip} > > We have a long driveway and I used to put a carved pumpkin every > other post or so along each side. The pumpkin carving chore was > getting to be just that, a severe chore. We can't carve them too > early in the Northwest or they start to mold quickly and turn > to mush. Have you tried treating the inside of the pumpkins to make them last longer. It seems to me that spraying the cut surfaces with hair spray or spray laquer should make them keep longer. {SNIP} > > For the driveway I also "aim" the faces to look at the on-coming > cars so I don't carve the face dead center on each side. It makes > for some new interesting twists on the faces as well. Cool! > One word of caution, (keeping in line with the safety thread...I don't > want the wrath of tattooed, Fire Marshall Denny after me :-) ) the > candle gets very close to the wall that you are hanging the pumpkin on. > I have noticed scorch marks on my fence but my fence is usually soaking > wet from all the rain and has lots of naturally grown moss on it. These > types of pumpkins are good candidates for a candle that is in a little > glass or something (like you find on the table at your nearest intimate > restaurant.) > How about small electric bulbs? I like putting a red and a blue flicker bulb in. As each goes off at a different rate, there are 3 color combinations. Happy haunting! roy. From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Sun Jul 21 08:05:09 1996 Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 13:04:10 +0100 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: makeup@earthlink.net (Tad Peters) Subject: Re: Re[2]: Growing moss on decorations Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: > >Hey! I work in Rancho Cucamonga! Gimme more informatiom! Gimme >Gimme Gimme!!! :) > >-Brian we are located at: 9589 Foothill Blvd., near the intersection of Archibald and Foothill. our hours are about to change and we are going on vacation for theifirst time in 5 years but after August 5th, everything should be back to normal. Tad Peters A. Harlequin Costume makeup@earthlink.net 9589 Foothill Blvd http://home.earthlink.net/~makeup Rancho Cucamonga, CA 91730 murphy_for_congress@desktop.tyrell.com (909) 948-2950 From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Sun Jul 21 08:14:13 1996 Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 13:04:24 +0100 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: makeup@earthlink.net (Tad Peters) Subject: English Ren Clothing Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Since there have been some many requests, here is the price list for Ren Clohting, off the rack. s/m/l ITEM FABRIC RETAIL bodice 1.5 yds 59.98 bodice reversable 1.5 yds 79.98 blouse 4 yds 39.98 skirt 4 yds 34.98 noble shirt 3 yds 69.98 pants 2 yds 29.98 venations 2.5 yds 59.98 shirt-yolk 4 yds 49.98 jerkin 2.5 yds 39.98 shirt-pirate 4. yds 54.98 chemise 6 yds 54.98 Tad Peters A. Harlequin Costume makeup@earthlink.net 9589 Foothill Blvd http://home.earthlink.net/~makeup Rancho Cucamonga, CA 91730 murphy_for_congress@desktop.tyrell.com (909) 948-2950 From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Mon Jul 22 06:00:41 1996 Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 23:24:48 -0800 From: Tad Peters To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Help plan a Halloween Wedding Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Bill Rothe - Tekware sys mgr wrote: > > I knew a couple that were planning to have an Addams Family Wedding > at one time.... > > They were going to be Gomez & Morticia, with Cousin Itt as > best , etc.etc.etc...... > > I think Fester was going to do the service.. > > Unfortunately, they broke up before the planning ever got off the > ground.... > > But, it would've been a *truly* memorable wedding! > > -bill. > We have done a couple of those Adams Family Weddings, but the one that we have costumed have alwasys been Adams families. -- Tad Peters A. Harlequin Costume makeup@earthlink.net 9589 Foothill Blvd http://home.earthlink.net/~makeup Rancho Cucamonga, CA 91730 murphy_for_congress@desktop.tyrell.com (909) 948-2950 From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Mon Jul 22 08:05:55 1996 Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 07:22:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Bertino To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Jumping Out for Halloween Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: On Fri, 19 Jul 1996 TonyGJr@aol.com wrote: Hi Tony! > For redoing the crystal ball in the Haunted Mansion, two technologies were > used. the older technology was the classic "project a face onto a dummy head" > trick, with the projection beam shining through a rtiny mirror some 6 feet > away on the rail around the seance area, and the projector down below. Yeap! > the newer technology uses fiber optics in a whole bundle projecting the face > in a sort of back projection. Whether they use TV or film projection right > there with this, I do not know. It makes for a smaller unit, which is > mounted u der the table to the point where they added the floating table > effect to it... Which they are still not happy with. The table wobbled and fiber optics isn't known for it's ability to bend and flex over and over and over..... :) It seems to have been fixed now, but they don't like the color nor focus it has right now. Look for this to be worked on in September... > Another fun crystal ball rear projection was in the humorous ride Knott's > Berry Tales with a gypsy lady watching TV in her crystal ball... Watching westerns.... :) don bertino@netcom.com ____/^\_____________________________________ Disney ascii art & / \ || FDC MCP || / \ animations are at <______\ [] [] [] || [] [] [] || [] [] [] /______> http://www.calweb.com \----------------||----------||----------------/=== /~bertino===============\______________||__________||______________/===== From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Mon Jul 22 08:32:50 1996 Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 07:48:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Bertino To: Stuart_McIntire_at_AISDC@ccsmtp.uage.com Subject: Re: "Ghost In The Mirror" (Disney HM Effect) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 22 Jul 1996 Stuart_McIntire_at_AISDC@ccsmtp.uage.com wrote: Hi! > Disney uses the "ghost in the mirror" effect while you ride their "Boomobile" > (they probably have their own name for the effect - I know they have a > different name for the transportation apparatus). The effect works well be- > cause as you sit in the ride, the ghostly face appears *between* the passen- > gers and not on top of them. "Doombuggy"..... Or "Atomobile' for the Adventures thru Inner Space... :) > Since I'm putting together a walk through attraction, I'm wondering how I > can best pull off the effect considering I can not control the placement of > the viewer(s). _How To Operate A (Financially) Successful Haunted House_ > gives you plans for a similar effect which requires live actors to be the > ghosts, and that way you can move around and place yourselves as needed, but > I'd prefer something that doesn't require additional staff and is operated > somewhat automatically as the viewers approach. I think a simlar feat can be pulled off looking down a hallway and something being off to one side: ______ | | | 2 | | | -----\ | | 4 \ | ----- \<3 | | | 1 | 1 where you are 2 where are looking 3 sheet of plastic or mylar 4 area with ghost that is slowly lit and unlit with x10 dimmers. (You'd think being moderator of rec.arts.ascii that I could do better then this..... :) don bertino@netcom.com ____/^\_____________________________________ Disney ascii art & / \ || FDC MCP || / \ animations are at <______\ [] [] [] || [] [] [] || [] [] [] /______> http://www.calweb.com \----------------||----------||----------------/=== /~bertino===============\______________||__________||______________/===== From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Mon Jul 22 09:23:27 1996 From: Stuart_McIntire_at_AISDC@ccsmtp.uage.com Date: Mon, 22 Jul 96 11:19:40 EST To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re[2]: "Ghost In The Mirror" (Disney HM Effect) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: King Don responds... ;) >I think a simlar feat can be pulled off looking down a hallway and something >being off to one side: (Pepper's deleted) Being the ambitious sort I am, I naturally planned to do the Pepper's Ghost this year...I had also hoped to do the "ghost in the mirror," but for the application I asked about, Pepper's is the perfect solution. BTW, Don, Denny and I had some discussions on this, and I'd like to get your feedback. What if you combined any two of the following illusions: Pepper's, the "Well," and the "ghost in the mirror" (or a variation of the ghost)...do you think, for example, you could get an effective illusion by combining the Well with Pepper's? - Stu From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Mon Jul 22 10:52:00 1996 Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 19:50:28 -0400 (EDT) From: "AARON D. HARPER" To: Darlene Horwath Subject: Re: Help plan a Halloween Wedding Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 8 Jul 1996, Darlene Horwath wrote: > I just got email from someone who is interested in help planning a halloween > wedding. He/she is looking for ideas for a coustume wedding and ideas for > thebridal party and grooms men, music, cake for decorations and center > pieces etc. > > Trix Wow Great Idea... We did that in 91 and everybody thought we were crazy. What we did was to have a normal ceremony but the reception had the halloween theme. It worked out so that we not only had our crazy idea come to life but we also had pictures we can show our grandkids... ************************** Shaggy Office of Instructional Research Univ. of N.C. at Greensboro http://www.uncg.edu/~adharper adharper@hamlet.uncg.edu harperad@steffi.uncg.edu From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Mon Jul 22 11:24:27 1996 From: Scott Axworthy Subject: Re: THIS PUMPKIN LIST To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 09:07:05 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Roy Leach writes: > > {Snip} > > > > We have a long driveway and I used to put a carved pumpkin every > > other post or so along each side. The pumpkin carving chore was > > getting to be just that, a severe chore. We can't carve them too > > early in the Northwest or they start to mold quickly and turn > > to mush. > > Have you tried treating the inside of the pumpkins to make them last longer. > It seems to me that spraying the cut surfaces with hair spray or spray laquer > should make them keep longer. > I have never tried treating the insides of the pumpkins. Has anyone ever tried this? I suppose the key is to kill off any fungus and critters that cause spoilage. If WonderBread can stay squishy and fresh so long, why can't my pumpkins! Maybe bleach, or food preservatives, or lysol, or maybe I'll just wipe them down with WonderBread! -Scott -- Scott Axworthy Phone: 206-649-7668 Cascade Design Automation Fax: 206-649-7600 scott@cdac.com http://www.cdac.com From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Mon Jul 22 11:39:16 1996 From: Scott Axworthy Subject: Re: Safety/Scotty back from Vegas To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 09:15:00 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Denny: milwiron@btprod.com writes: > > >> Stu, > >> I get the idea and I will work with you to keep safety part of the > >> workings on the list. Thanks for the support. Does Denny really have a > >> Tattoo?? Kathy always is smiling back. > > > >I hear that Denny is covered with tattoos! He's hoping that it will > >attract the attention of the youngsters that trick or treat as hookers. > > > >Sorry Denny....couldn't resist. > > Hey, aren't you the guy who disappeared without a word on a supposed biz > trip to Vegas 3 months ago? I told you the showgirls wouldn't fall for that > "son of Howard Hughes" story you came up with. And you were right... > > and... > I believe I'm trying to attract hookers that trick or treat as youngsters, > not the other way around. ;) I did miss the nuance there, that is much different. Maybe this is the year that they will return! -Scott -- Scott Axworthy Phone: 206-649-7668 Cascade Design Automation Fax: 206-649-7600 scott@cdac.com http://www.cdac.com From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Mon Jul 22 11:44:04 1996 From: Scott Axworthy Subject: Re: Hi-Tech Halloweenies To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 09:19:56 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Dave: dbell@cup.portal.com writes: > > Man - this list is really heating up! Some great new people, > with some great ideas! This should keep the blood flowing, > right through October... > > I've been thinking (look out!!) about flying ghosts and > Doug Ferguson's cranky spectres. We've all used styrofoam > and cheesecloth as lightweight materials in the past, but > I was wondering about something *really* light, almost > non-existant, nearly invisible until illuminated, and > certainly high tech: Anybody given any thought to aerogels? ^^^^^^^^ You've peaked my curiosity! I have never heard of an aerogel. I have been on the look out for new ghost materials for some time. I had originally used a thin plastic (real thin...the cheap plastic dropcloths that you get at the paint stores. -Scott -- Scott Axworthy Phone: 206-649-7668 Cascade Design Automation Fax: 206-649-7600 scott@cdac.com http://www.cdac.com From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Mon Jul 22 13:41:16 1996 Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 22:01:51 -0700 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: catalog of interest Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: No problem Stuart, and if you have any problems drop me a line and I will see what I can do to help. They are pretty good so I don't think you will have any problems. Kathy the new kid on the crypt From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Mon Jul 22 14:12:59 1996 From: DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 11:15:29 -0600 (CST) Subject: Communication problems... To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: I have heard from at least two members of the list, telling me they are building the FC Ghost. This is neat, and I'm glad I went through the trouble of writing it up. If anyone else is trying to do the project, and running into problems, e-mail me directly. I haven't even seen the posts I put up two days ago, and If you try to contact through the halloween-l via the netcom server, it may be days before you hear from me. I sent Larry Lund a small list of potential problems areas to avoid, and I'll share it with the group: One tip, on the pulleys, is to make sure they can pivot freely as the lines angle with the crank. Also, be sure the swivel piece attached to the crank's end is high enough to clear the center (where the motor is attached.) Also, don't try to run the assembly without a counterweight. --- One other thing that's very important: Make sure that the marionette can move freely. I realize that this is in the instructions, but it's essential. Also, be sure to note the corrections to the L.E.D. math setion! I sent the correction out, but I'm not sure it made it - I never got a copy back from netcom. I was off by a decimal place! (Should be .015, NOT .0015) All the figures in the examples were therefore in error. I have made corrections to the entire text (parts 1-3) and have it as a single file if you need it. E-mail me if you do. -Doug From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Mon Jul 22 14:21:46 1996 Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 22:38:02 -0700 (PDT) To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: "David \"HOMER\" Simpson (or one of the Clan)" Subject: Re: A Catalog Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: At 10:39 AM 07/19/96 -0700, you wrote: >Jason, > they will ask for some kind of confirmation on the fact that you do own >a company. They wanted a business care and resale #. I have these things >but not knowing what is in the catalog I don't know if it is worth the >hassle. As I understood it they sell props... but in volume... if someone can tell us what its about... please do so :) --Jason From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Mon Jul 22 14:23:49 1996 Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 22:52:37 -0700 (PDT) To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: "David \"HOMER\" Simpson (or one of the Clan)" Subject: Re: Re[2]: Spinning 'Twilightish' Spiral Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: > Bobby - Some associates of mine in Tempe, AZ visited > the Silo-X mega haunt last year and had a blast. > You may have read the threads regarding the setting > up of a Haunt Registry on Halloween-O-Webbery > (a highly recommended web site belonging to Trix - > a longtime member of the mailing list). If at all > possible, try to get the details for this Silo-X > attraction and post them to the list so Trix can > add it to her site. Our goal is to have the most > comprehensive Halloween haunt listing anywhere. I > have already forwarded something like 18 different > mega- and mini- haunts (and everything in between). > Let's make this a true nationwide directory! > Is there a site somewhere that goes into the details of what's specifically in each room, or perhaps room titles. Just curious because most mega-haunts I visit, they have booklets on the rooms and sponsors, its a thing with me, I like knowing what kinds of themes and rooms different haunts have. --Jason From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Mon Jul 22 14:53:57 1996 Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 11:32:09 -0700 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween Subject: Thanks.. Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Sometimes I forget to say Thank You to the people who give me all the great ideas and help. So here is a BIG THANK YOU to all of you that have helped me. You are a great group and my Halloween will be better than ever thanks to all of you,( and safer :) ) Kathy the new kid on the crypt From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Mon Jul 22 15:01:53 1996 Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 07:50:27 -0700 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Jumping Out for Halloween Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Denny, I had a computer problem and lost all my bookmarks and such. I have been trying to get someone to give me the URL to the archives area but I am not seeming to get out. I have not seen any of the mail I have posted. If you get this can you reply. Please!! Kathy the confused kid on the crypt From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Mon Jul 22 15:06:56 1996 Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 13:03:55 +0100 To: Amy Cole From: makeup@earthlink.net (Tad Peters) Subject: Re: Flash Paper Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: >I am looking for a place where I can purchase Flash Paper. Any >information you can give me would be appreciated. Thanks! Amy We sell Flash Paper. We sell it by the envelope. It is priced at $9.98 plus tax. We also sell igniters. Tad Tad Peters A. Harlequin Costume makeup@earthlink.net 9589 Foothill Blvd http://home.earthlink.net/~makeup Rancho Cucamonga, CA 91730 murphy_for_congress@desktop.tyrell.com (909) 948-2950 From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Mon Jul 22 15:17:33 1996 From: milwiron@btprod.com Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 09:23:31 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: How To Operate A Haunted House book Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: At 11:35 AM 7/18/96 -800, you wrote: >Does anyone know if any of the large book stores carry/can order this >thing? I tried last year, right after halloween and all the stores I >asked had never heard of it, couldn't find it by ISBN number of >anything. >I'd love to have it... if I could get it. >-Brian Your book store isn't trying very hard. It's always in stock here but if you'd rather not order from TBD, try The Nightmare Factory's site on the web. You can also have your local book store call us and we can get a copy to them. Denny B.T. Productions' Terror By Design 708-830-9561 fax 708-830-9577 Haunt Supplies & Scare Wares From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Mon Jul 22 15:26:28 1996 From: milwiron@btprod.com Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 04:43:37 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Jumping Out for Halloween Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: At 11:16 AM 7/19/96 -0700, Jason wrote: >Kathy, I just scanned and sent a simplified version of the ballroom from >Phillip Morris' HTOAFSHH :) Hope it goes through all right... Its a UUE >encoded *.JPG. > Hi Jason, I'd suggest not announcing this on the list. The book is still in print and the copywrites are very much in effect. Phil Morris owns the rights to his book and he has some mighty big toes to go stepping on. The book only retails for $12.00 and can usually be found for less than that. I don't think it's a big stretch to expect people to find or order it at their local book store. Denny B.T. Productions' Terror By Design Haunt Supplies & Scare Wares From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Mon Jul 22 15:35:15 1996 From: milwiron@btprod.com Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 05:59:12 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Blatant add- New Haunt "how to" book Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Blatant add follows- Hey All, A new book is being released called Haunted Illusions by P. Osborne, with a forward by Phillip Morris. This book shows how to achieve a haunted house attraction from start to finish and includes the workshop plans (working drawings) for 37 illusions for use in haunted houses and haunts. Some of the plans included are- Living Half Girl, Death By Cremation, Arm Amputation, Mummy Case, Burned Alive, Headless Lady, Torture Chest, etc... Many of these illusions are scaled for use in small areas, others are suitable for room sized displays. Shipping will start in a few weeks and the price will be right around $65.00. Due to the late ship date in relation to Halloween, available quantities will be limited this season, I have a dozen coming in. To reserve a copy, give me a call at TBD. I would suspect other dealers on the web will also carry this book in stock. Denny B.T. Productions' Terror By Design 708-830-9561 fax 708-830-9577 Haunt Supplies & Scare Wares From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Mon Jul 22 15:43:57 1996 Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 01:47:17 -0700 From: Gina Cundiff To: "halloween-l@netcom.com" Subject: The Giant Worm at the Zoo Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Here goes--I have photos I can send, but I don't know how to attach uu-encoded or whatever... For a 70 foot worm-- Years past Materials: 30 5-foot lengths of 2 inch diameter conduit, 20 10 foot lengths of 1 " PVC, heavy wire, a 100 foot long, 20 feet wide roll of clear visquine, spare paint. 1996 Planned materials: 15 20-foot lengths of rebar instead of conduit and PVC. The ribcage is made out of the rebar (or conduit/PVC). \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / Pound conduit into ground at an angle similar to above (about a foot deep), watch that your curves are graceful. (Tell you why in a minute) This first step is where you make or break your worm--literally. Read on before you decide how far apart to put your conduit. Insert PVC into conduit and go across to the other side like it is a rib. You are making a path to wald thru. . . . \ / the PVC forms rounded humps above each "rib" section. Drill holes through PVC and conduit and run heavy wire through to secure. Run some extra PVC over top from mouth to butt, securing with heavy wire at each rib. this prevents ribs from swaying downward. Drape visiquine over end to end. Fold over slack visquine along sides of worm. Use tent stakes or spare 2 x 4 s to anchor visquine to ground. Here is where you find out just how graceful your curves really are. If you have placed your conduit with sharp curves, your visquine will be super tough to keep from wrinkling, and even harder to anchor to the ground, because the amount of slack visquine at the bottom will vary too much. (Major mistake in Year One of worm's appearance). Still to come: Major mistake of Year Two, Major mistake of Year Three, and fix-its for Year Four (this year). Also mouth, butt, worm profits, lighting, painting, & escape hatches. P.S. Paying visitors come up and ask us if they can help put this together!! Neighbors will wonder about you (even more than they already do...;). P.P.S. A slight modification of this also works as a great little temporary greenhouse. -- Come visit Mesker Park Zoo--http://www.evansville.net/~mpzoo/1zoo.htm From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Mon Jul 22 15:58:10 1996 From: DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 10:45:15 -0600 (CST) Subject: BIG oops! Sorry. To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: I made a fatal error in the L.E.D. math of Part 3 Some of you probably caught it already. --------------------------------correction--------------------------- For those of you wishing to use L.E.D.'s in any Halloween project, the following information will be invaluable. Walls of 'bat' eyes and many other such effects are possible with these little wonders, which commonly outlast miniature light bulbs many times over. If you've never played with them, here's your chance to experiment. L.E.D. Math for Imagineers R (ballast) = V (power supply) - V (L.E.D.'s) / 15 x 10^-3 (or .015) ------ V (L.E.D.'s) values (Multiply these values times the number of L.E.D.'s you use in series.) Red 1.8V Yellow 2.0V Green 2.2V Blue 3.4V (Good luck finding blue ones, but they look great!) EXAMPLES: For 2 Red L.E.D.'s on a 12V supply, use a 560 Ohm resistor [or: 1.8 x 2 in series = 3.6 V of Red L.E.D.'s, so... (12-3.6) / .015 = 560 Ohm or 560 Ohm ballast required] For 2 Red L.E.D.'s on a 9V supply, use a 360 Ohm resistor For 2 Red L.E.D.'s on a 6V supply, use a 160 Ohm resistor 2 Red L.E.D.'s on a 3V supply need no ballast - it will probably work, despite the predictions of the formula, but it will eat your battery alive! In other words, you should use at least 6 volts or higher to be practical. NOTES: The LONG lead on an L.E.D. is the ANODE, which expects to see the positive (+) terminal of the D.C. power supply or battery. As mentioned above in the text, the anode of one L.E.D. must be connected to the cathode of the other for the pair to work. L.E.D.'s are, as their name implies, diodes, and thus they will only pass electrical current in one direction. DO NOT connect L.E.D.'s in parallel. ------------------- Lop the previous version off your copy of part 3. I'll happily send a corrected version of the _entire_ project text to anyone who asks. -Doug From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Mon Jul 22 16:04:38 1996 From: Ldwarf@aol.com Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 02:12:50 -0400 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: the mumy, LONG POST Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Hi all... just thought i would take a moment to post a helpfull hint or two to this fine group. i have enjoyed reading all of your ideas , and instructions for creating all sorts of holloween props and decorating ideas, and thought that i might have something of intrest for you all..... just this past week , i was called by some folks who are producing a film in my home state (RI)....the film is called "the perception", and it is being produced by the same folks who did "welcome to the doll house" (...dont know if anyone knows of it...but thats not the point.) well to make a long story short...im told that they have twisted around the shooting dates, and need an egyptian mummy ...soon...like yesterday would be nice... the full time prop master is in over his head,(and he is a bone head to boot) and they need help...(and i thought i would never make a buck with my sick hobby)... we chatted a bit...set a price..( big smile) and now im off to work...but how to do it, on a tight time/money budget...and it has to look good. ...well, ... what follows is my instructions for building a decayed mummy...or any "dead guy" that you may need for a grave yard scene. STEP 1, THINK AND PLAN : get a good photo, look in the libary under "mummy" or one of the reference photos that i used came from an old nationall geographic,, the one with the " iceman" i dont recall the date, and the mag is at the office so you will have to wing it... it dosnt matter... just find a photo or two to use as a starting point. i decided that i needed to make a mold and pour a fiberglass shell, so it would be strong and light, i could have sculpted a body from a block of foam or clay, but sculpting takes a while,could i get good facial detail with foam? and if i used clay and made a mold, for a fiber glass positive, it woud be messy, heavy, and i never get it just the way i want it... i didnt have the time to do a nice job. so i decided to skip the whole first step, who needs to carve, i just made a plaster mold of a person. you could use anyone for the adverage dead guy, but i needed someone with a good boney look, i used a friends 14 year old sister, she was perfect, great lines, killer neck, and jaw. the girl will be a knockout in a few years, but to me that delicate neck and shoulder line and slight build,looked like the perfect starting point for a shrunken skin man...and to top it all ...she was willing to do it for one CD and a pint of Ben and Jerrys STEP 2, THE BIG MESS: get a big bag of plaster from home depot.,be sure to get plaster of paris, not imperial coat, or joint compound. if in doubt, ask the happy dude in the orange apron, they just love to help. get a 25 lb bag and you will have some left after doing a torso. i think it cost 7 bucks.. lay out a plastic drop cloth, tape down the edges, trust me , you will kick up the edges and track plaster all over the place if you forget this simple step... dont ask me how i know... and if you must know, im going for a new look in interior floor coverings, white and crunchy, its the latest vogue. use a lot of petroleum jelly as a release agent, its not all that important on the smooth portions of the body, the plaster just pops off when dry, but boy is it important on the hairy parts like the back of the arms...so just to be sure, grease up all ares to be covered. the plaster will tend to dry your skin, if you dont protect it, but it shouldnt hurt you...also take a moment to lube up your hands and forarms... i dont care how carefull you are, you will get plaster stuck to the back of your knuckles and let me tell you , it only took once for me to learn .if you dont care about detail at this point, you could evenn use a few pieces on plastic wrap on her, we greased her and wrapped her breasts down and out of the way with a piece of trash bag, (yikes who told her she could grow up) because we needed a "male" mummy, and covered her hair withh more plastic wrap to protect her from spills. we laid her out on the floor, on the plastic tarp, with pillows under the plastic, all oround her to support the arms and to prevent the plaster from flowing all around her. you only neet the front half of the torso. it helps if you can have an assistant to help you mix the plaster... just mix it up , and slop it on... try not to build it up too thick. the plaster can get hot as it cures... and real hot if it is too thick...mix up a small bowl an see for yourself ...the heat wasnt a problem for us.. we had a fan on her at all times and built the mould up in several thin layers.. or you could make the first layer with straight plaster and build it up with plaster bandages from the medical supply house,, or simply press a few layers of chease cloth into the wet plaster for strength... try not to make the model laugh... it could crack the darn thing. the plaster will cure in 20 min to a half hour... be patient... when it is dry have the modell slowly flex and stretch , they will tell you when they think that it is cured and that they are ready ... again it helps if you have an assistant to help you lift the mold off....as soon as the mold is off send the model to the shower... she is hot sweaty, stinky, sticky and pissed because you flicked plaster in her hair...give her some ice cream and a big kiss on the cheek...you have just saved a bunch of hours carving STEP 3 THE NOT SO MESSY, BUT STINKY PART: fill in any deep under cuts and imperfections with clay. rub some petroleum jelly into the plaster mold and laminate a few layers of fiberglass cloth into the mold, its easy, like paper mache only it smells, just go to a good hardware store or auto body shop and get a small can, its easy to work with once you get the hang of iit, and the instructions on the can are easy to follow. i used 2 layers of cloth then 2 layers of the mat fabric and boom, just like that im done... while you are waiting for the resin to cure...remember to get a box of rubber gloves for the next time, and wash your hands with acetone, thats the only thing to clean it off... whats that you say, you would never you such a nasty chemical on your skin... ask your wife for some nail polish remover... hasnt killed her ....yet. STEP 4...its not cheating, its saving time for the head i i needed the correct shape and proportions and ive got no time to mess around , so im off to the local toys are us for a plastic skull model. about 14 bucks, and five min. worth of glue time , dont forget to file down thoes perfect teeth, or just knock a few out..and its done.. stick it to the fiberglass torso by pushing a piece of wood up into the back of the head and use a little more fiberglass to hold the wood to the inside of the torso and just , well, sort of laminate the stick into the skull and mak it one big happy unit.. you may need to do some trimming of the torso a get a good fit STEP 4 MAKING IT LOOK DEAD so now you have a good replica of a torso with a skull stuck in the right place ,,, big deall you say, but this is the big trade secret, how to make dead flesh... while you were at the hard ware store you should have piched up a 4 lb can of DURAMS ROCK HARD WATER PUTTY should cost 5 bucks at the "depot"...the stuff is great, ask for it by name... you mix it into a putty like paste, and just spread it onto the form you have created... for a decayed mummy leave it sort of rough and make sure to leave some of the skull visible...and make a few worm holes with a pencil. for a taught leather like skin, build up more , and cover most of the skull, build up an ear or two it the mood hits you, then moisten your hands with watter and smoth out some of the rough texture and polish the surface so it looks like an old boot. i used a combonation of the two methods for my mummy... the durams wil set up in a few min. , longer if you mixed it with lot of watter...this material is great, it can be mixed thin and allmost brushable, or it can be mixed thick like dough..just keep adding and taking away till you like the look and texture. STEP 5, SO YOU SAY YOU CANT PAINT screw paint.. its for sissies with too much time and skill on their hands... get an old can of stain from that project you never finished in the basement... i think i used mahogany , but fake it.. use whatever you have on hand... this is fun not rocket science. paint on a thickk coat of stain and rub it around with that old t shirt you ruined with fiberglass and plaster... thats called recycling...the idea is to rub it into the pores and then remove most of it with the rag. you can use several shades if stain if you want to get fancy ,, or try stippling some black paint on in some of the cracks for that aged and rotted look ..thats it, you now have a great dead guy to half hide in your grave yard if you want a mummy roll up a piece of cardbourd and stick it to the torso , if your fancy you could wrap the whole shebang with fiberglass to make it 1 cohesive unit...or just blow half a roll of duct tape like i did.. and im a professional...HA ... then tear up an old bed sheet, i confess i purchased a few yards of muslin from the fabric store , but hey it had a great texture and it wasnt my budget. but a sheet is fine in a pinch. tear it into strips and wrap it most of the way.. i mixed some white glue, water and stain and painted it onto the strips as i wrapped.. it gave it a nice aged color and crisp texture. add more color as you go, till it looks great. ok so it sounds like a lot of work and the thought of all of thet messy plaster and smelly fiberglass turn you off, but its worth it.. its easy, just get a vision in your head and dive in... its easy to get a nice look without spending the big bucks, sure we have plenty f hi tech methods of doing this... but this is quick and easy... and no joke this Quickie project will be seen in the movie, "the perception" whenever it comes out, so take it from a " pro" in the field... its easy , dont be a wimp try it, no one element is too tough for a novice to master the first time out. i know this is just a quick over view but i will be happy to give any help or more info if needed..and please someone let me know if this is of service anyone and did i say....."to make a long story short.."? forgive the typos...a full day making a mummy will cause the old carpal tunnel to act up ...carfull folks Scott the prop guy From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Mon Jul 22 16:25:15 1996 From: Stuart_McIntire_at_AISDC@ccsmtp.uage.com Date: Fri, 19 Jul 96 13:28:48 EST To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: How To Operate A Haunted House book -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: > 07/12/96 09:33am >writes: >>The book- How To Operate A Financially >>Successful Haunted House by Phil >>Morris has been printed a couple of >>times. I've only seen the last printed >>version from 1988. Does anyone have >>"both" or all of the printings? What >>are the differences between them? Were >>any effects left out of later >>printings? I think I remember Stu >>mentioning a spiral bound version, were >>other bindings done? >The version I have is a perfect bound >(wraparound cover) trade paper edition in >bright green. The bibliographic info for >this edition are: >How To Operate a Financially Successful >Haunted House. Philip Morris and Dennis >Phillips. Imagine, Inc. 1985-1987. >0-911-13711-4. $9.95 >Hope this helps your quest! Hmmm...that makes *three* versions that I'm aware of. The first one I bought sometime in the early '80s. It was printed offset and was spiral-bound between paper covers of bright green paper stock with a line drawing of a haunted house on the cover. The perfect bound trade paper edition mentioned above is one I do not have. The second version I bought about 1994 or so. It's perfect bound with glossy cover stock and has a nice photo of a "real life" haunted house on the front cover. There are numerous additions between the first (?) and third (?) versions, but no deletions that I'm aware of (I still have to go over it with a fine tooth comb). The added pages are fairly obvious for those that are familiar with the original edition. None of the typos or hand-lettered spelling errors were corrected (and they really are glaring). The same crude cartoonish drawings are in both copies I have. Added to the second are even MORE crude (and quite ugly) drawings. I think someone told Phil's grandson that he had drawing ability... ;) Still and all, anyone who claims to love to do Halloween set-ups should own this book. Of the books I've seen, own, or read, it is the one I always come back to. Mind you, I have not paid the price ($50 and up in many cases) for books designed for the professional haunter, but I'm cheap that way :) Is anyone aware of editions aside from these three, and can the person who owns the "second" edition con- tact me directly so I can do a direct comparison between all three known versions? (Your name and E-Mail address were not attached to your response to Denny). Thanks. - Stu From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Mon Jul 22 17:01:32 1996 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 12:19:55 -0700 From: rothe@edsug.com (Bill Rothe - Tekware sys mgr) Subject: Re: How To Operate A Haunted House book To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: *>> Hey All, *>> The book- How To Operate A Financially Successful Haunted House by *>> Phil *>> Morris has been printed a couple of times. I've only seen the last *>> printed version from 1988. *>> Does anyone have "both" or all of the printings? What are the *>> differences *>> between them? Were any effects left out of later printings? I think *>> I remember Stu mentioning a spiral bound version, were other *>> bindings done? Somebody jes' gotta know. Denny *> *>Does anyone know if any of the large book stores carry/can order this *>thing? I tried last year, right after halloween and all the stores I *>asked had never heard of it, couldn't find it by ISBN number of *>anything. The only place I've seen that particular book is in Morris' Costumes Co.'s catalog....I don't have the Phone # with me, tho. They have a number of books on haunts and such. I've been meaning to order one they carry on the old midnight horror shows that were popular in the 30s-50s....don't remember the exact title. -bill. <*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*>| | rothe@ug.eds.com ** Opinions stated here are not those of EDS ** | <*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*>| From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Mon Jul 22 23:46:44 1996 From: milwiron@btprod.com Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 11:16:35 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: "Ghost In The Mirror" (Disney HM Effect) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: At 09:31 AM 7/22/96 EST, Stu wrote in part: >Since I'm putting together a walk through attraction, I'm wondering how I >can best pull off the effect considering I can not control the placement of >the viewer(s). _How To Operate A (Financially) Successful Haunted House_ >gives you plans for a similar effect which requires live actors to be the >ghosts, and that way you can move around and place yourselves as needed, but >I'd prefer something that doesn't require additional staff and is operated >somewhat automatically as the viewers approach. Since it's a walk through, a ghost on the side of a person could be tough unless you can control the spectator's positions. I also understand your not wanting the ghosts to superimpose over these spectators. Sooo... if you have the ceiling height, howz about a Pepper's Ghost or two-way mirror effect with mechanized ghosts (Axworthy Automatic Flying Ghost System and Bicycle Wheel Recycler) flying just above the patron's heads as they walk past. Maybe some ghost rats at their feet. Denny B.T. Productions' Terror By Design Haunt Supplies & Scare Wares From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Tue Jul 23 15:45:53 1996 Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 15:00:45 +0100 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: makeup@earthlink.net (Tad Peters) Subject: Re: Flash Paper Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: >Gee Tad. Either you have a great markup or you're paying too much. We sell >the envelopes to dealers for $****. What kind of igniters are you refering to? > >Nathan (Theatre Effects) >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Nathan Kahn >Home: kahnn@pa.net >Work: nathan@theatrefx.com >Work Web: http://www.theatrefx.com >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Well, gee, Nathan, why dion't you sell it to Amy then. And Btw I am a retail outlet, I am not cheap, I am not wholesale, I am not Target. If you want Target type service along with Target type peices you can go ahead and contact Nathan. Unless of course Nathan won't sell it to you and then his price is Bullshit anyway, and if Nathan does sell to the public, then he is backstabbing companies that buy his products. Actually I don't know of anyone in California that does. Tad Peters Tad Peters A. Harlequin Costume makeup@earthlink.net 9589 Foothill Blvd http://home.earthlink.net/~makeup Rancho Cucamonga, CA 91730 murphy_for_congress@desktop.tyrell.com (909) 948-2950 From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Tue Jul 23 16:34:15 1996 From: "D. Joseph Creighton" Subject: Re: Hi-Tech Halloweenies To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 13:35:11 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: In the last exciting episode, Scott Axworthy wrote: } dbell@cup.portal.com writes: } > Anybody given any thought to aerogels? } ^^^^^^^^ } You've peaked my curiosity! I have never heard of an aerogel. Whoa. Absolutely the coolest (did I say 'coolest'? Darn rights, I did) material on the face of the planet. It looks a lot like a cloud; it's semi-transparent/semi-opaque and is apparently quite strong! But I doubt it's actually available to the public. Anyone care to prove me wrong? Please? - Joe -- "Love truth, but pardon error." -- Francis M. Voltaire http://www.ee.umanitoba.ca/~djc/ D. Joseph Creighton [ESTP]\ Sr. Programmer, DB Support: Administrative Systems Joe_Creighton@UManitoba.CA \ University of Manitoba Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Tue Jul 23 17:57:10 1996 From: milwiron@btprod.com Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 18:36:53 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Flash Paper/the test Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: At 03:00 PM 7/23/96 +0100, Tad wrote: >Well, gee, Nathan, why dion't you sell it to Amy then. >And Btw I am a retail outlet, I am not cheap, I am not wholesale, I am not >Target. If you want Target type service along with Target type peices you >can go ahead and contact Nathan. Unless of course Nathan won't sell it to >you and then his price is Bullshit anyway, and if Nathan does sell to the >public, then he is backstabbing companies that buy his products. Actually I >don't know of anyone in California that does. >Tad Peters Uh oh, someone's brain finally hit the spin cycle. Let's see... who should I trust, Nathan or Tad? Hmmmmm, I know, how about a "bullshit" test? Hey Tad, are you still Straight From The Grave's only retail outlet? Where are the original posts you've been replying to? Howz about giving the "class" another lesson in latex and polymeric chemistry? Jes' gotta love it, Denny From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Tue Jul 23 18:47:22 1996 From: Stuart_McIntire_at_AISDC@ccsmtp.uage.com Date: Tue, 23 Jul 96 10:57:19 EST To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Missing E-Mails From The List Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: I'm concerned that I'm missing (possibly) several posts to the list. Lately, I've been seeing replies to messages, then getting the original post a day or two later. Also, there have been replies to posts (specifically, Tad's messages regard- ing fabrics and flash paper) for which I have *never* seen the requests for info. If someone has those original requests, I'd like to be copied as I may have pertinent info to assist on the topics. Flash paper, especially. If the requestor(s) could forward their message(s), I'd be more than happy to help...otherwise, if one of you "groovy ghoulies" out there could forward the posts, I'd be more than appreciative. Many thanks! - Stu From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Tue Jul 23 23:58:03 1996 Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 23:43:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Bertino To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Missing E-Mails From The List Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 23 Jul 1996 Stuart_McIntire_at_AISDC@ccsmtp.uage.com wrote: > I'm concerned that I'm missing (possibly) several posts to the list. Lately, > I've been seeing replies to messages, then getting the original post a day > or two later. > > Also, there have been replies to posts (specifically, Tad's messages regard- > ing fabrics and flash paper) for which I have *never* seen the requests for > info. If someone has those original requests, I'd like to be copied as I > may have pertinent info to assist on the topics. Flash paper, especially. > If the requestor(s) could forward their message(s), I'd be more than happy > to help...otherwise, if one of you "groovy ghoulies" out there could forward > the posts, I'd be more than appreciative. Well your not the only one. And I sure and the h*ll get them all. Tad, did you posted a reply to a personal message from Nathan to the halloween-l mailing list? If so, you owe Nathan an apology. don bertino@netcom.com ____/^\_____________________________________ Disney ascii art & / \ || FDC MCP || / \ animations are at <______\ [] [] [] || [] [] [] || [] [] [] /______> http://www.calweb.com \----------------||----------||----------------/=== /~bertino===============\______________||__________||______________/===== From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 24 00:17:38 1996 Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 19:22:06 -0400 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: "Freya E. Harris" Subject: Re: Safety Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: At 04:17 PM 7/15/96 -0400, TonyGJr@aol.com wrote: > >Some other tiny points to touch on safety issues: >1. electrical cords. Keep away from foot paths so they cannot be tripped on. >If they must cross a path, something to cover the coards such as a rug or a >cord channel would do the trick. also, make sure that 3 wire grounded wiring >is used throughout. no frayed eletrical cords. > {snip} Since my childhood (as if it ever actually ended!) I have heard that one should NEVER run an electrical cord under a rug. This is a fire hazard. Better put it under something non-combustible. ATLANTA, GEORGIA: Winner of the 1995 World Series AND of the 1996 Olympic Games From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 24 01:58:51 1996 From: Stuart_McIntire_at_AISDC@ccsmtp.uage.com Date: Mon, 22 Jul 96 17:33:08 EST To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re[4]: Spinning 'Twilightish' Spiral Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Jason, >Is there a site somewhere that goes into the details of what's >specifically in each room, or perhaps room titles. Just curious because >most mega-haunts I visit, they have booklets on the rooms and sponsors, its >a thing with me, I like knowing what kinds of themes and rooms different >haunts have. It's been a while since I looked, but I don't think Silo-X has a website. You could try www.silo-x.com, or perhaps www.silox.com Let us know if you find anything! - Stu From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 24 02:08:32 1996 Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 12:48:11 -0400 (EDT) To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: "David \"HOMER\" Simpson (or one of the Clan)" Subject: Re: "Ghost In The Mirror" (Disney HM Effect) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: > >> Disney uses the "ghost in the mirror" effect while you ride their "Boomobile" >> (they probably have their own name for the effect - I know they have a >> different name for the transportation apparatus). The effect works well be- >> cause as you sit in the ride, the ghostly face appears *between* the passen- >> gers and not on top of them. > >"Doombuggy"..... Or "Atomobile' for the Adventures thru Inner Space... :) > >> Since I'm putting together a walk through attraction, I'm wondering how I >> can best pull off the effect considering I can not control the placement of >> the viewer(s). _How To Operate A (Financially) Successful Haunted House_ >> gives you plans for a similar effect which requires live actors to be the >> ghosts, and that way you can move around and place yourselves as needed, but >> I'd prefer something that doesn't require additional staff and is operated >> somewhat automatically as the viewers approach. > >I think a simlar feat can be pulled off looking down a hallway and something >being off to one side: > > ______ > | | > | 2 | > | | >-----\ | >| 4 \ | >----- \<3 > | | > | 1 | > >1 where you are >2 where are looking >3 sheet of plastic or mylar >4 area with ghost that is slowly lit and unlit with x10 dimmers. > >(You'd think being moderator of rec.arts.ascii that I could do better > then this..... :) > >don Killer ascii Don, should I send jpg versions of both for the archive? --Jason From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 24 02:09:15 1996 Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 15:22:00 -0700 (PDT) To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: "David \"HOMER\" Simpson (or one of the Clan)" Subject: Re: Flash Paper Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: At 01:03 PM 07/20/96 +0100, you wrote: >>I am looking for a place where I can purchase Flash Paper. Any >>information you can give me would be appreciated. Thanks! Amy > >We sell Flash Paper. We sell it by the envelope. It is priced at $9.98 plus >tax. We also sell igniters. > >Tad What do the igniters look like? We always use a match, lighter, or candle. --Jason From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 24 02:17:16 1996 From: Stuart_McIntire_at_AISDC@ccsmtp.uage.com Date: Mon, 22 Jul 96 09:31:47 EST To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: "Ghost In The Mirror" (Disney HM Effect) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Folks, Disney uses the "ghost in the mirror" effect while you ride their "Boomobile" (they probably have their own name for the effect - I know they have a different name for the transportation apparatus). The effect works well be- cause as you sit in the ride, the ghostly face appears *between* the passen- gers and not on top of them. Since I'm putting together a walk through attraction, I'm wondering how I can best pull off the effect considering I can not control the placement of the viewer(s). _How To Operate A (Financially) Successful Haunted House_ gives you plans for a similar effect which requires live actors to be the ghosts, and that way you can move around and place yourselves as needed, but I'd prefer something that doesn't require additional staff and is operated somewhat automatically as the viewers approach. Any thoughts? - Stu From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 24 02:19:10 1996 Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 17:18:31 -0700 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Communication problems... Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Doug, I did not receive the last corrections that you sent out. Not due to the list server but to the company I use. When you get time if you want to send it I would appreciate it. My husband is looking at it with the look that tells me it is the project of choice. Thanks Kathy the new kid on the crypt From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 24 02:27:36 1996 From: milwiron@btprod.com Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 05:34:32 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Flash Paper Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: At 01:03 PM 7/20/96 +0100, Amy wrote: >I am looking for a place where I can purchase Flash Paper. Any >information you can give me would be appreciated. Thanks! Amy Hi Amy, I never saw your original post but your best bet would be to contact Nathan at Theatre Effects . Pyro is their business. Denny B.T. Productions' Terror By Design Haunt Supplies & Scare Wares From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 24 02:31:15 1996 Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 08:01:35 -0600 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Polaroids Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: The batteries for the SX-70 types of cameras are packed as part of the film magazine. Karen? I think, sent a note about how it WAS possible to use these cameras for double-exposures (from a UFO researcher's description of how some Polaroids could be double-loaded to produce some of the pics in question. It just occurred to me where I might be able to find that description... From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 24 02:33:58 1996 From: milwiron@btprod.com Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 05:02:42 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Jumping Out for Halloween Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: At 07:50 AM 7/20/96 -0700, you wrote: >Denny, > I had a computer problem and lost all my bookmarks and such. I have >been trying to get someone to give me the URL to the archives area... Hi Kathy, The archives can be found at- which is Don's home page. I've been receiving your posts to the list but Netcom places a very low priority on mailing list activity so it's hard to say when you'll see them. In fact, I've seen messages take over a week to get sent out from the main computers at Netcom. So much for the Information Super Highway. ;) Denny B.T. Productions' Terror By Design Haunt Supplies & Scare Wares From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 24 02:43:28 1996 Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 10:10:08 -0600 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: How To Operate A Haunted House book Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: That's my version below. Is that the one you mean? I'm Lauren Jones, ljones@aphis.usda.gov. Cheers! ======================== The version I have is a perfect bound >(wraparound cover) trade paper edition in >bright green. The bibliographic info for >this edition are: >How To Operate a Financially Successful >Haunted House. Philip Morris and Dennis >Phillips. Imagine, Inc. 1985-1987. >0-911-13711-4. $9.95 >Hope this helps your quest! From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 24 02:55:13 1996 Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 07:51:50 -0600 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Window Display Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Doug writes: > Well, I live in an apartment, and have no front yard these > days to decorate for Halloween. I have only a single front > window to decorate. Two years back, I had a miniature > haunted house diorama, with a building that looked like > something out of "Nightmare Before Christmas". It was > lit from inside, and the windows glowed...glowing stars and > a moon in the sky behind it...MORE...This year...Hotel > Lugosi"... automated, completely, with lighting, sound, and > animation. A ghost gradually appears in the hall (via > Pepper), talks to the person(s) looking in the window, and > then vanishes. Okay...I hope you're planning photos, videotape, etc... From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 24 03:01:37 1996 Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 05:53:09 -0600 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: SFX Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: On my wanderings this weekend, I found some very cheap environmental sfx tapes in the Nature's Course series. Although I usually don't go for the ones with music included, I couldn't resist the dollar store price ($1) and had to check them out. The Blue Skies at Night is a thunderstorm tape with thunder, rain, some wind, and dripping water. It goes on for some time before the music starts, then for awhile after. The music is mostly unobtrusive New Age stuff, and I could imagine Side 1 being particularly effective in a entryway, holding tank setting. These tapes are very short--no more than 15 minutes per side. For what it's worth, Nature's Course series is produced by KRB Music Companies, 7692 Zionsville Road, Indianapolis, IN 46268. From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 24 03:08:20 1996 Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 06:21:31 -0600 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Halloween Wedding Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Freya E. Harris writes: > For music, instead of the trite > traditional wedding marches, try > Mussorgski's "Night on Bald Mountain." > Berlioz' (?) Symphony Fantastique and > Grieg's Peer Gynt suite have some spooky > passages as well. Great ideas! Grieg's Peer Gynt Suite No. 1, especially. And especially In the Hall of the Mountain King (what a wild reception dance that would be!). You know, when I was a toddler, I went to a nursery school that had a record with a Halloween song on it called, I think, "On October 31st." For years, I tried to find this song, particularly because of its haunting melody. A few years ago--yep--I finally found out the melody was In the Hall of the Moutain King. Unfortunately, it's starting to be overused. Side comment: does anyone remember when Pachelbel's Canon in D was unknown to the general population except for viewers at the National Space Museum's showings of *To Fly!* ? From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 24 03:15:35 1996 Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 06:13:46 -0600 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Shrinking Numbers Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: I did my house for years, starting as a kid myself, and we certainly noticed a recurring cycle--you either had schoolage children, or you had toddlers and teenagers. The first group brought LOTS of trick-or-treaters while the second group, obviously, didn't. The theory we developed was that in year 1 of the cycle in that neighborhood there were a lot of kids born; in year 2, even more. In years 3 and 4, less than years 1 and 2, but still a lot of kids. In years 5, 6, and 7, the birthrate was way down, and then the cycle would start over again with a lot of kids in year 1. If you think about it, you can imagine how this might effect the numbers you get. The kids in years 1 and 2 tend to trick-or-treat for more years because they continue after their own optimal age on account of years 3 and 4 still being on the streets. When those kids grow out of it, you're left with the few kids in years 5-7 until the new years 1s come along. Anyway, that's what our theory was. From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 24 03:21:26 1996 From: milwiron@btprod.com Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 09:34:22 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: the mummy, LONG POST Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: At 02:12 AM 7/20/96 -0400, Scott wrote: (much deleted) >STEP 4 MAKING IT LOOK DEAD >so now you have a good replica of a torso with a skull stuck in the right >place ,,, big deall you say, but this is the big trade secret, how to make >dead flesh... while you were at the hard ware store you should have piched >up a 4 lb can of DURAMS ROCK HARD WATER PUTTY should cost 5 bucks at the >"depot"...the stuff is great, ask for it by name... Great post Scott! I just wanted to add that the Durham's Rock Hard Water Putty is truly wonderful stuff to work with. I have access to every kind of industrial molding and casting compound imaginable but I still go back to Durham's for some of my own prop work. The door knocker you see at Don's site of Halloween images and on my home page was a rush Saturday project just before last Halloween. I decided I just had to have an automatic I.R. activated door knocker, so I built that one out of Durham's on Saturday and painted it on Sunday. No, it wasn't dry but it still turned out O.K. The I.R. sensor unit hides in bushes nearby and it starts knocking just as you reach the door. Anyone who hasn't tried the stuff should give it a shot. Denny B.T. Productions' Terror By Design Haunt Supplies & Scare Wares From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 24 11:03:17 1996 Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 13:32:02 -0600 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Font question... -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Doug, where is the site you used "Spirits" on? I'd like to see it! From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 24 11:22:49 1996 Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 10:38:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Bertino To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: halloween-l unaccessable Re: Font question... -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 23 Jul 1996, Lauren Jones wrote: > Doug, where is the site you used "Spirits" on? I'd like