> to see it! (I'm not Doug...) :) He did some great images that I put up on the halloween-l web site. It is a great looking font. BTW, it is down. Calweb ftp space (where all the files are) has been down from 07/23/96 to current and they don't know when it will back up. (Hopefully today) I have been checking around and it looks like the halloween-l mailing list will be moving soon to Best.com I have heard nothing but good things from Best users (most former netcom.com users) Go figure..... If anyone out there has any experince with best.com good or bad, please email me directly. Thanks, don bertino@netcom.com ____/^\_____________________________________ Disney ascii art & / \ || FDC MCP || / \ animations are at <______\ [] [] [] || [] [] [] || [] [] [] /______> http://www.calweb.com \----------------||----------||----------------/=== /~bertino===============\______________||__________||______________/===== From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 24 14:38:04 1996 Date: Mon, 22 Jul 96 14:54:19 CDT From: jeffh@oakhill-csic.sps.mot.com (Jeff Hunsinger) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Growing moss on decorations Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: I stumbled on an article describing how to grow moss over the weekend. The article was geared towards growing the moss in a yard, but the info could be helpful anyway. The suggestion was to mix the moss with buttermilk, then pour it over the surface where you intend the moss to grow. They also suggested a soil pH of about 5.5 and keeping the area free of leaves. The article said the moss will establish itself fully after one to two years. Sounds like this is a good one to start early! Jeff From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 24 14:40:01 1996 Date: Mon, 22 Jul 96 17:13 EDT From: Donna_KENNY@umail.umd.edu (dk62) Subject: Re: Re: catalog of interest To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Well, hi! Our weekend was fine......we had a yard sale (Dave's idea and NEVER again -- posting signs all over creation!). ANyway, we made a whopping $25, plus the $10 I made today, MOnday, when a tiny old woman nearly knocked down our front door at 10 am, wanting to know if we'd sold that nice little guitar on Sat. (We hadn't; she bought it for $10). ON Sunday we took the loot and tried a new restaurant in Laurel, and we spent much of Sat. afternoon and evening outdoors at a neighbor's party, and that was GREAt because the weather was SOOO NICE! I think we must have slept all Sunday morning away, since I don't remember anything before noon :) Today is Lia's twenty-month "birthday" but we're coping. I'm so happy with Dave (as opposed to other relationships and my EX-husband) that although we get stressed, I remain pretty happy, day to day. I did go through the baby clothes last night, though, and had to pack away all the used eighteen-month stuff, as Lia is now twenty months and plump (or at least she was plump when her picture was taken at the end of March...). That made me really sad -- what else can I say? Lisa called on Sat. because Tom had left me a message on Friday saying that they needed to cancel our plans with them for Sat. because Lisa had sort of lost it. Anyway, she was the most upset I've ever known her to be when she called on Sat. We understood that they probably needed to veg out over the weekend, but lisa was too keyed up for that, too. SOme of this is because she and her best friend for many years aren't in touch right now ebcause of the different stresses in Lisa's life over the last few months (primarily the adoption, but all that other stuff, too), and she's frustrated and hurting about that. I didn't know what to say to her, really -- just that "if in doubt, do nothing" might apply to her friend right now, since Lisa didn't feeel up to dealing with it. So. Nina and Michael from our travel group are coming over *this* next Sat., since they ended up going to Philly this (last) weweekend to see Nina's folks. We invited them over and have sent them a copy of everyone's names and numbers from our travel group (except for the Toys, that is, which we don;t have). They don't have any packing lists!! Can u imagine? We have ZILLIONS! Anyway, we wanted to extend ourselves to them as so many in the adoption community have done for us over this last year, and we look forward to having them over this weekend. The Holt Agency stuff makes me furious, though I think it's also *good* news, since it means CHina is running again, so to speak. Did you see that blurb last night during the Olympics, the part about that Chinese women's gymnastics team leader? Made me cry. Glad you're out of the foxhole -- sometimes just chilling out helps everything. Did you see Helen and Mike? If so, how are they doing> I'm so happy with Dave (as opposed to previous partners and my EX-husband) that I really fel okay most of the time, except, of course, that Lia is probably speaking Chinese well by now...if other little girls and their aptitude for language at an early age is any indication, and it depresses me to DEATH to have to get rid of the clothes smaller than 2 and 3T! So. When do you plant o call the Ted-ster again? Does he know about Holt? Lisa says Tom talked with Ted on Friday...no news, etc., except that Mr. Gay Su is back from London, though a few days late, and is expected to see CA today or tomorrow, and hopefully will get our travel dates (we'll see). Still, traveling *is* an eventuality......... so, I guess that means that the longer we wait, the more likely it is it will happen soon! (sorry -- survival for me means looking on the bright side, or maybe some it is faith...and I agree with Shelly....we all have to decide to have a good day as opposed to a bad day, really -- although it's hard and means more stress as days go on) (Still, I think that positive vibes help everythiing....) Well, thanks for keeping me posted from the Net lists......so, have any other DC area agencies received dates????? TTYS! Donna From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 24 15:03:31 1996 From: Ldwarf@aol.com Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 21:23:52 -0400 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: test Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: bla bla bla,,,,...,., test test i have not seen my post... have you ???? if you can read this please let me know..... From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 24 15:04:07 1996 From: Stuart_McIntire_at_AISDC@ccsmtp.uage.com Date: Mon, 22 Jul 96 19:46:29 EST To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re[2]: Jumping Out for Halloween Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Denny posts: >Hi Jason, >I'd suggest not announcing this on the list. The book is still in print and >the copywrites are very much in effect. Phil Morris owns the rights to his >book and he has some mighty big toes to go stepping on. >The book only retails for $12.00 and can usually be found for less than >that. I don't think it's a big stretch to expect people to find or order it >at their local book store. Yikes! How did I miss that??? What Denny says is very true. Phillip Morris has been around for longer than any of us can remember. Morris' catalog is THE bible for Halloween and related diversions. If the Morris catalog doesn't carry it, it's not worth buying...as the cliche turns... Point being, the Phillip Morris company is the Big Bad Dude on the block. You can expect any Big Bad Dude to jealously guard their copyrights. And copyright laws are no small thing. In most cases, it's how people make their livings. That's why this administration is so interested in enforcing the anti-piracy laws against foreign nations. So now we've gone from the small to the big picture. Let's go back again. Be very, very careful what you disseminate on the list. Some material simply is not public domain. Some IDEAS are, but printed material is not until something like 75 years after initial publication (can anyone confirm/ deny that?). So distributing Morris' published material is a violation of copyright laws. Doing ascii drawings of the Pepper's Ghost illusion (the Morris book calls it the "Classic Spirit Method") is not a copyright violation. Fine line? Yes and no. But you can take the Pepper's concept, call it anything you like, put it in a book with your own instructions and illustrations and publish/copyright it up the wazoo and you will not be violating copyright laws. The illusion has, after all, been around since the late 1800s. And the Disney Haunted Mansion uses it to great effect...they can not sue Phillip Morris for using Pepper's in their book, Morris can not sue Don Bertino for his ascii drawings. Once you publish someone else's work without permission and/or compensation, you're in deep doo-doo. But I don't think this isolated instance will draw Phil's attention. I hope... :) - Stu From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 24 15:04:57 1996 From: Ldwarf@aol.com Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 21:26:02 -0400 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: test Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: how long does it take between the time a message is sent...and when it is posted... im lost..i havnt seen a thing....HELP From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 24 15:21:17 1996 Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 08:44:12 -0600 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: A Catalog -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: About the catalog...just call back as a business. Make it up. How do you think I get in the wholesale area of ----CENSORED---- every year? I did a little haunted house to benefit the daycare center here at the office last year, and now every catalog with anything Halloween in it appears on my desk! Someone gave me a catalog recently with a copper kettle with a wooden handle; the copper has a jack-o'-lantern face carved out of it--cool! (Faith Mountain Company, 1-800-822-7238) From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 24 15:26:48 1996 Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 06:02:03 -0600 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Colored Light Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: : > I am going to try the fog spitting > pumpkins this year, and am looking > for a way to get a red or maybe > blue light inside the pumpkin. I can think of a number of ways. Run C7 pinchlights into your pumpkin, or string a regular C7 Christmas strand from pumpkin to pumpkin with burned out bulbs in the sockets you don't want to use. Or create a pinchlight with a C7 nightlight and an extension cord (all of these are nontechy, nonwiring ways!). Or, use a candle with cellophane or tissue in the desired colors behind the cut-out features--although you'd have to make auxillary openings for the "smoke" to escape. How about using Cyalume lightsticks inside the jack-o'-lanterns? They make them in red, white, and blue glow now, as well as the usual green. From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 24 15:31:18 1996 Date: Tue, 23 Jul 96 06:07:43 EDT To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Bill Lewis Subject: Re: Communication problems... Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: At 11:15 AM 7/21/96 -0600, you wrote: > >I have heard from at least two members of the list, telling me >they are building the FC Ghost. This is neat, and I'm glad I went >through the trouble of writing it up. Add me to the list. I've had this large geared motor I've been hanging on to for years (It's actually been in the family for about 30 years) that I've wanted to do something with, this is perfect. Now if I can only finish building the garage in time to put some effort into it. Bill Lewis NSWC Carderock Division Code 6060 (301) 227-2742 lewisw@oasys.dt.navy.mil lewisb@erols.com From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 24 15:36:35 1996 From: milwiron@btprod.com Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 08:22:15 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Safety first/tattoos Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: At 01:50 PM 7/19/96 -0700, you wrote: >Scott, > That was a good one. All those tattoos, I guess he does not need to >dress up for halloween. I hope those are older trick or treaters. I know >the headline on our mail says Mike, but that is because I do not know how >to put my name on there too. I am his wife Kathy. Thanks for the visual I >now have of Denny. >Kathy For an actual photo of me, take a look at my "props" page. I didn't have a picture to use of the Corpse Kit, so I just used a pic of myself after a night of drinking with Stu, Nathan and Scotty (you should've seen them, whoa!). Denny B.T. Productions' Terror By Design Haunt Supplies & Scare Wares From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 24 15:44:50 1996 Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 21:47:00 -0700 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Re[2]: Another newbie. Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Stu, Thanks for the reply, I am going to try to make my own bodies as was suggested. I am a seamstess and I love a good challenge. I can hear it now at the store, can you help me I am trying to make a body. Kathy the new kid on the crypt From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 24 15:50:32 1996 From: milwiron@btprod.com Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 05:00:41 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Homemade Fog vs. Commercial Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: At 03:48 PM 7/19/96 -0400, you wrote: >I have read the instructions for the homemade fog machine and also noted >the mention of the lower cost commercial versions. My question: does the >homemade version put out as much fog as the cheap commercial versions? >I priced a 150 W soldering iron as the heart of a homemade version at >about $65, so I'm wondering if I should just consider spending a bit >more for a compact, proven commercial model. >Thanks. >David Hey David, If you can't find a soldering iron at a garage sale or an industrial cartridge heater at surplus you'd be much better off buying an inexpensive commercial fogger. My reasons for coming up with that design were based more on "goofing around in the shop" rather than economic priorities. If you enjoy and understand serious and potentially dangerous tinkering it can be fun to build your own fogger, otherwise, just pop for the built in safety and convenience of a commercial one. Small commercial foggers have at least a 700 watt heater in them so they're way ahead of a 150 watt soldering iron for producing fog. I built three of those foggers (gave 2 to friends) based on my instructions last year and they work well. I ended up doing my final versions using cartridge heaters up to 1,200 watts, all of my units had "over-heat" protection built in. An unregulated cartridge heater WILL easily and instantly cause a melt down of your coils and ignite any nearby flammable materials. If you decide to build one, please add a thermostat, thermal fuse and overload fuse into your wiring, never leave it unattended. Denny From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 24 15:55:36 1996 Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 08:54:59 -0600 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Crystal Balls Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Kathy writes: > I never thought of the fortune teller area. I even > have the tarot cards and the whole thing. the only > problem is the cost of the crystal ball :( Any one > have a idea for a inexpensive crystal ball that looks > good??? My artist friend frequents thrift shops, and she found a couple of props that will do the trick. A few years ago, huge, hollow ball paperweights in which you could stick floral arrangements were popular. Maybe even an old-fashioned round-type fish bowl would work. A large clear glass Christmas tree ball set upside down on a fancy napkin ring with filmy fabric gathered near the base might work. If you mount something like that on a small box (cardboard would do) and shove those twinkling, chasing Christmas strands under the box, the lights should reflect upward on the inside of the ball. Shoving clear irridescent ribbon inside might give the lights something to reflect off of that's more substantial. This is real fun to test... From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 24 15:55:47 1996 Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 21:52:07 -0700 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Safety/Scotty back from Vegas Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: OK Denny what is the real story. Hookers, Las Vegas, youngsters, and lets not forget a body full of tattoos. Are you sure you only dress up at Halloween or is this something you do all the time. Is there a real you?? Kathy new kid on the crypt From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 24 16:04:51 1996 Date: Sat, 20 Jul 1996 22:12:08 -0700 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Help plan a Halloween Wedding Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: For a Halloween Wedding you have to have a good old groaning organ playing in the background. I can see Lurch sitting at the keyboard now. Main colors would have to be black, red, and orange. For the favors they could use black net with red ribbon and candy corn. This could get out of hand really quick. One more thought all the guests should come dressed to go with the theme. Kathy the new kid on the crypt From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 24 16:06:33 1996 From: DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 01:28:13 -0600 (CST) Subject: Halloween 'Soft-toy' To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: If you possess a Macintosh system, and have a copy of Hypercard 2.0 or higher, send me a mail message, and I'll return you a copy of my "Dark Ride Construction Set" via UUencode, Binhex, or the format of your choice. It's especially nice for kids and the young-at-heart, although it's nothing to compare with the recent roller coaster simulators on the market. The stack performs a card-by-card animation of a trip through a fantasy] dark ride found in an abandoned amusement park. When you have ridden the 'relic', you are offered the opportunity to program your own ride. Instructions (help-driven) are included, and those who love to create their own graphics (and know their way around hyperCard) will have a bit of fun with this. I wrote this stack several years ago, and I guess I was looking for an audience of Halloween loving types to share it with. Although it is not a really sophisticated program, I think you will enjoy it! It's a haunt, after all. :-) -Doug Ferguson From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 24 16:12:59 1996 Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 08:37:30 -0600 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Pumpkins Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Scott's pumpkin carvings on both sides is brilliant! Some friends of mine used a similar technique one year to illuminate their tombstones in their dark yard: they carved the front side in the usual way, then carved a rectangle in the back so the light could shine up on the stones. Here's a thought about the scorched posts: stick a layer or two of aluminum foil on the posts behind the pumpkins. I've done this on the undersides of shelves when I've put lighted stuff in bookcases. >>> Scott Axworthy 07/18/96 08:47pm >>> This is a little late in the pumpkin thread but I am trying to catch up on a few of these great topics and thought I would throw in my favorite carved pumpkin idea. Thanks to Tim for the Pumpkin references, I think I will have to try and grow a monster pumpkin next year. At our last party we had about 30 carved pumpkins with about 20 in a big "patch" in an island in the driveway. (This was somewhat of a Nightmare Before Xmas" setup and included a scarecrow a'la Jack in his scarecrow outfit. This was cool but not the topic of this post. We have a long driveway and I used to put a carved pumpkin every other post or so along each side. The pumpkin carving chore was getting to be just that, a severe chore. We can't carve them too early in the Northwest or they start to mold quickly and turn to mush. So this task would take valuable time in the days before the party. So I started to look for shortcuts and came upon a great technique. This won't work for all your pumpkins but if you have the right area you will love it for some of them. The idea is nothing more than to get two jack o'lanterns from one pumpkin. I clean the beast and then carve two faces in the pumpkin on opposite sides. I then slice the whole thing vertically down the middle. On my fence I tack in a couple of nails that are left sticking out about an inch out. The nails are about 5 inches apart depending on the pumpkin size. I then hang the pumpkin on the nails (like hanging a picture.) There is still plenty of space for the candle to go inside. This looks great as you come down the driveway with pumkins staring at you from both sides and it is half the work to accomplish the same look. You can use this anywhere you have a wall to hang the pumpkin on. I figured out a few tricks to make it easier. I cut the clean-out hole in the side instead of the top. It makes it stronger at the top for hanging and a side hole makes it easier to get to the candle in the tight space in 1/2 a pumpkin. The plug will stay in without a problem. The vertical cut needs to pass through the middle of the clean-out hole. For the driveway I also "aim" the faces to look at the on-coming cars so I don't carve the face dead center on each side. It makes for some new interesting twists on the faces as well. One word of caution, (keeping in line with the safety thread...I don't want the wrath of tattooed, Fire Marshall Denny after me :-) ) the candle gets very close to the wall that you are hanging the pumpkin on. I have noticed scorch marks on my fence but my fence is usually soaking wet from all the rain and has lots of naturally grown moss on it. These types of pumpkins are good candidates for a candle that is in a little glass or something (like you find on the table at your nearest intimate restaurant.) T D AKER writes: > > > > > Thanks to the pumpkin mailing list I am > > on I am hoping to get that GREAT PUMPKIN > > so that I can take kids pictures next to > > it... > > WHAT pumpkin mailing list!? > > > WELL, here is the address on the web where it is: > http://www.athenet.net/~dang/pumpkins.html > The place to sign up for the giant pumpkin list is in > this web page,go here and sign up.They are great people > who know more about growing the big ones than anybody. > Thats about enough verbiage for a sliced pumpkin. Thanks again for the pumpkin references. -Scott -- Scott Axworthy Phone: 206-649-7668 Cascade Design Automation Fax: 206-649-7600 scott@cdac.com http://www.cdac.com From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 24 16:13:05 1996 From: Stuart_McIntire_at_AISDC@ccsmtp.uage.com Date: Fri, 19 Jul 96 16:24:33 EST To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Disney's Haunted Mansion/Phanton Manor Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Imagineer Wannabee Don writes: ;) >Hi All! >I'm sure one of the top Haunted House's in the world is Disney's HM. It has >inspired me as well as many other people. But we don't get to see it >often enough.... :( Well, Don, my guess is you've been through there a minimum of several dozen times at the very least... :) ...whereas I've been through exactly twice. :( One of the unfortunate things is that I can't download the midi files off your web page (that is, I could, but can't play them). Someday...but I console myself with accessing your Disney archives on a regular basis and checking out the URL you posted for the HM script for my "fix" whenever I need it. Thanks for the reminder/update! - Stu From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 24 16:22:56 1996 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 10:46:25 -0700 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Test - Please respond Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Doug, Yes, I got your SOS. I have read it and I am sending you back a reply. I will send one to your email address to. Kathy the new kid on the crypt From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 24 16:23:40 1996 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 10:44:19 -0700 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: From your knucklehead list manager.... Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Hi Don, I was wondering what was happening not hearing from you. I have been trying to find my way to the archives, I dumped a bunch of my stuff by accident and lost the URL. Can you help me please. Kathy the new kid on the crypt From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Thu Jul 25 04:49:22 1996 From: DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 18:55:50 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Font question... -Reply To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: >Doug, where is the site you used "Spirits" on? Don Bertino's neat website, under the Halloween goodies. Look for the fonts section. http://www.calweb.com/~bertino -Doug F. From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Thu Jul 25 04:56:37 1996 From: DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 18:39:56 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Window Display To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: >Okay...I hope you're planning photos, videotape, etc... Lauren, I would love to do that, but the display is very 'low-light' and works only at night. I have photos, however, of the construction phase, and a complete writeup of the project is in the works. It will include scale plans. Expect this sometime next month. I will announce it here, and you can have it via mail. Don't send requests yet - I am still answering mail on the F.C. Ghost. :-) -Doug Ferguson From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Thu Jul 25 09:40:09 1996 Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 08:52:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Bertino To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: "Ghost In The Mirror" (Disney HM Effect) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 22 Jul 1996, David "HOMER" Simpson (or one of the Clan) wrote: > >I think a simlar feat can be pulled off looking down a hallway and something > >being off to one side: > > > > ______ > > | | > > | 2 | > > | | > >-----\ | > >| 4 \ | > >----- \<3 > > | | > > | 1 | > > > >1 where you are > >2 where are looking > >3 sheet of plastic or mylar > >4 area with ghost that is slowly lit and unlit with x10 dimmers. > > > >(You'd think being moderator of rec.arts.ascii that I could do better > > then this..... :) > > Killer ascii Don, should I send jpg versions of both for the archive? Sure... I'd love to see it. don bertino@netcom.com ____/^\_____________________________________ Disney ascii art & / \ || FDC MCP || / \ animations are at <______\ [] [] [] || [] [] [] || [] [] [] /______> http://www.calweb.com \----------------||----------||----------------/=== /~bertino===============\______________||__________||______________/===== From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Thu Jul 25 09:49:10 1996 Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:35:10 -0700 From: rleach@pongo.West.Sun.COM (Roy Leach) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: test Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: > From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 24 14:40 PDT 1996 > Return-Path: > From: Ldwarf@aol.com > Date: Sun, 21 Jul 1996 21:26:02 -0400 > To: halloween-l@netcom.com > Subject: test > Sender: owner-halloween-l@netcom.com > Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com > > how long does it take between the time a message is sent...and when it is > posted... im lost..i havnt seen a thing....HELP > Hey, is this a trick question like "How long does it take to reach the center of a Tootsie Pop?" I recieved this at 3:20 pm Wed, July something (you don't think that just because I spend my life surrounded by millions of dollars of computer equipment that _any_ of them can tell me the date). roy. From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Thu Jul 25 09:50:57 1996 Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 08:59:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Bertino To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Halloween 'Soft-toy' Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: On Sun, 21 Jul 1996 DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu wrote: > If you possess a Macintosh system, and have a copy of Hypercard 2.0 > or higher, send me a mail message, and I'll return you a copy of my > "Dark Ride Construction Set" via UUencode, Binhex, or the format > of your choice. It's especially nice for kids and the young-at-heart, > although it's nothing to compare with the recent roller coaster simulators > on the market. > > The stack performs a card-by-card animation of a trip through a fantasy] > dark ride found in an abandoned amusement park. When you have ridden > the 'relic', you are offered the opportunity to program your own ride. > Instructions (help-driven) are included, and those who love to create > their own graphics (and know their way around hyperCard) will have a > bit of fun with this. But... But..... But.... I don't have a Mac... Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhh.... Sounds like fun! don bertino@netcom.com ____/^\_____________________________________ Disney ascii art & / \ || FDC MCP || / \ animations are at <______\ [] [] [] || [] [] [] || [] [] [] /______> http://www.calweb.com \----------------||----------||----------------/=== /~bertino===============\______________||__________||______________/===== From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Thu Jul 25 10:21:14 1996 From: Scott Axworthy Subject: Re: "Ghost In The Mirror" (Disney HM Effect) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 10:40:56 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Denny, Stu and all: milwiron@btprod.com writes: > > At 09:31 AM 7/22/96 EST, Stu wrote in part: > ...deleted... > > Since it's a walk through, a ghost on the side of a person could be tough > unless you can control the spectator's positions. I also understand your not > wanting the ghosts to superimpose over these spectators. > Sooo... if you have the ceiling height, howz about a Pepper's Ghost or > two-way mirror effect with mechanized ghosts (Axworthy Automatic Flying > Ghost System and Bicycle Wheel Recycler) flying just above the patron's > heads as they walk past. Maybe some ghost rats at their feet. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ In a flash of brilliance, Denny has hit on what could be a cool effect. This one has been *haunting* me since I read his post yesterday. A mini-pepper's that would be a self contained unit that is tucked in the edge of a hallway. Rat ghosts! Too cool! -Scott I've got to get this house painting out of the way! -- Scott Axworthy Phone: 206-649-7668 Cascade Design Automation Fax: 206-649-7600 scott@cdac.com http://www.cdac.com From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Thu Jul 25 12:07:54 1996 From: DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 19:07:34 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Communication problems... To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: >Add me to the list. I've had this large geared motor I've been hanging on to >for years (It's actually been in the family for about 30 years) that I've >wanted to do something with, this is perfect. Great! This makes you number 6 or 7 of the builders. :-) I've never had such a response to a porject like this! Best of luck. -Doug F. (make that 'project'. Oops.) From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Thu Jul 25 16:02:28 1996 From: LCIRUSS@aol.com Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 15:12:31 -0400 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: New Book Release Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Hello everybody, I am another new member to the list. I have been lurking in the shadows and enjoying the exchanges for about 3 weeks now. I came out of the dark to post my first bit of information I thought some of you might be interested in. There's a new Pre-Publication Introductory offer of a book titled - The Complete Haunted House Book by Tim Harkleroad It covers creating, operating and marketing a professional Haunted House Attraction. It also has a section on Monster make-up. It was written by a professional magician with over 10 years experience with Haunted Houses. The book is 200+ pages and covers finding a location to construction of scenes, advertising, marketing, costumes, special FX and illusions. Pre-Publication price of book (before Aug. 15, 1996) $24.95 + $4.00 shipping After Aug 15 $29.95 + $4.00 shipping Order Direct from: Moonlighting Publications 420 Taylor St. Bristol, TN 37620 They will accept personal checks or money orders 4-6 weeks delivery and dealer inquiries welcome. This advertisment was found in Magic Magazine - no phone number was given Thats all for now, Russell From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Thu Jul 25 16:10:30 1996 To: halloween-l From: William E Rompala Date: 24 Jul 96 8:27:57 Subject: Re: Hi-Tech Halloweenies: aerogels Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: In the last exciting episode, Scott Axworthy wrote: } dbell@cup.portal.com writes: } > Anybody given any thought to aerogels? } ^^^^^^^^ } You've peaked my curiosity! I have never heard of an aerogel. >Whoa. Absolutely the coolest (did I say 'coolest'? Darn rights, I did) >material on the face of the planet. It looks a lot like a cloud; it's >semi-transparent/semi-opaque and is apparently quite strong! >But I doubt it's actually available to the public. Anyone care to prove >me wrong? >Please? >- Joe I did some surfing on this to find out about it. They really look cool: Do a lycos search on aerogel. Well, good news and bad news. Good news: You can purchase it from: Aspen Systems, Inc. 184 Cedar Hill Street Marlborough, MA 01752 USA telephone (508) 481-5058, Ext. 16 or fax (508) 480-0328 The Bad News: The current price is $2,000 per cu. ft. (in any form) for quantities under 10 cu. ft. Mediocre Good News: The price will be below $100 per cu. ft. for firm orders of 50,000 cu. ft. or more. Hey, if we all chip in........ =) Hey! If anyone wants to try and make their own, The Chromates: MgCrO4 ZnCrO4 The Ferrites: ZnFe2O4 Zn19MgFe40O80 Zn3MgFe8O16 ZnMgFe4O8 ZnMg3Fe8O16 ZnMg19Fe40O80 MgFe2O4 The Lanthanums: LaFeO3 LaCrO3 =) The manufacturing process is intensive and involves high pressure etc. -W -=- William Rompala Who _was_ going to deal with A. Harlequin Costume but no longer. Rompala Consulting http://www.netaxs.com/~romwil From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Thu Jul 25 16:34:06 1996 Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 04:44:29 -0600 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Disney's Haunted Mansion Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: You know, I checked out Disney's Haunted Mansion web sites, and unless my memory is r e a l bad, I don't remember any Little Leota or any bride other than the dressmaker's dummy in the attic. Have they changed things since I went in 1992? From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Thu Jul 25 19:08:23 1996 Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 06:11:00 -0600 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Spirits Font Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: I think I misunderstood! I wasn't looking for the Spirits font--I was the one who submitted it to the archives--I thought someone had used it in their web page and wanted to check it out! I used the Blood of Dracula font in something I'm working on; if I get it into any shape, I'll let you all know! >>> 7/24/96, 08:55pm >>> >Doug, where is the site you used "Spirits" on? Don Bertino's neat website, under the Halloween goodies. Look for the fonts section. http://www.calweb.com/~bertino -Doug F. From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Thu Jul 25 19:36:57 1996 Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 06:06:49 -0600 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Window Display and Low-Light Photography Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: writes: > I would love to do that [photograph it], but the display is very > 'low-light' and works only at night. I have photos, however, of > the construction phase, and a complete writeup of the project is in > the works...MORE... Ahh...yes...same problem I have. Virtually all of my old photos of Halloweens past are blasted by flash. One year, I got someone who half knew what she was doing to use 1000 speed film and a tripod, and I got two okay prints of the mansion silhouette in the Window. Someone who really knew what they were doing would have done much better. Do you know anyone who can do fast film and timed exposures on a tripod for you? Good luck! From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Thu Jul 25 19:59:21 1996 Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 04:59:28 -0600 From: Lauren Jones To: DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu, halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Dark Ride Construction Set Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Cool! I can save a binhex here on the PC and transfer it to my Mac at home! An off-the-wall question, but your description of the abandoned amusement park brought back a memory and a question. The memory is of reading a juvenile book of fiction about a large family--turn of the century, I think--where the youngest child disappears on his tricycle on an off-season, cloudy day and winds up in an abandoned amusement park. One day, I'll try to track this down. The question is about an art print of an old carousel, abandoned in a field. Problem: I don't know the artist or the title. A carousel enthusiast I ran into at Savage Mill [not a haunted house: a very old textile mill-turned-antique center!] thought the artist might be French; someone else suggested Louis Icart as the artist, but so far, no dice. Still looking. Book and painting--haunting! Where's the web site you used the Spirits font on? I'd love to see it! From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Thu Jul 25 20:19:26 1996 Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 19:54:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Bertino To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Disney's Haunted Mansion Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 25 Jul 1996, Lauren Jones wrote: > You know, I checked out Disney's Haunted Mansion web sites, and > unless my memory is r e a l bad, I don't remember any Little Leota > or any bride other than the dressmaker's dummy in the attic. Have > they changed things since I went in 1992? Eeeck... Your name is what again???? ;) Yes there are two brides, on that talks and one that just moans... IIIII DDDDDOO IIIII DDDDOOO (straight line for Denny to step in :) Little Leota is to the left after exiting from the Doombuggies, she's maybe 16" tall and says the famous words "Hurry back, Hurry back, make sure to bring your death certicate if you decide to join us..." BTW, for Disney's HM 25th Ann., someone put together a HM watch that when you pressed the side, it played her little speil. They where going to around $250-$300, only 999 of them made.... :) Someone was selling them this week in alt.disney.collecting for $150, but YMMV.. don bertino@netcom.com ____/^\_____________________________________ Disney ascii art & / \ || FDC MCP || / \ animations are at <______\ [] [] [] || [] [] [] || [] [] [] /______> http://www.calweb.com \----------------||----------||----------------/=== /~bertino===============\______________||__________||______________/===== From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Thu Jul 25 21:48:53 1996 From: TonyGJr@aol.com Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 16:46:50 -0400 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Halloween Wedding Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: One great song I always use for funeral parlor settings is the baroque classic Albioni's "Adagio". Give it a shot :) From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Thu Jul 25 22:06:34 1996 Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 13:14:36 +0100 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: makeup@earthlink.net (Tad Peters) Subject: I have made a mistake. Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: I in my hasty defense of our industry have made a major mistake. I did indeed reply to personal mail from Nathan to the list. Nathan I am sorry. Tad. Tad Peters A. Harlequin Costume makeup@earthlink.net 9589 Foothill Blvd http://home.earthlink.net/~makeup Rancho Cucamonga, CA 91730 murphy_for_congress@desktop.tyrell.com (909) 948-2950 From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Thu Jul 25 22:21:46 1996 From: DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 18:32:46 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Communication problems... To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: >I did not receive the last corrections that you sent out. On their way. The jpegs are available at Don's website, and you will need them to see the entire system. -Doug From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Thu Jul 25 22:27:15 1996 Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 13:14:53 +0100 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: makeup@earthlink.net (Tad Peters) Subject: to the list. Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: I made a mistake and slammed someone I should not have slammed for any reason. I have actually never had any dealings personal or professional with Nathan and I have apologized to him. In the world of business, when it is your family's mouth that gets fed or not, sometimes things hit you the wrong way, and I took offence to something that was not intended to be harmful or even cross in any way. to Nathan, the list and to http://www.theatrefx.com I am sorry. From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Thu Jul 25 22:29:14 1996 From: DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 18:43:52 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: the mummy, LONG POST To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: >The door knocker you see at Don's site of Halloween images and on my home >page was a rush Saturday project just before last Halloween. A darn NICE rush project! Looks great. -Doug F. From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Thu Jul 25 22:41:50 1996 Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 02:40:26 -0400 (EDT) To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: "David \"HOMER\" Simpson (or one of the Clan)" Subject: Re: Re[2]: Jumping Out for Halloween Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: At 07:46 PM 07/22/96 EST, you wrote: >Denny posts: > >>Hi Jason, > >I'd suggest not announcing this on the list. The book is still in print and >>the copywrites are very much in effect. Phil Morris owns the rights to his >>book and he has some mighty big toes to go stepping on. > >The book only retails for $12.00 and can usually be found for less than >>that. I don't think it's a big stretch to expect people to find or order it >>at their local book store. > > Yikes! How did I miss that??? > > What Denny says is very true. Phillip Morris has been around > for longer than any of us can remember. Morris' catalog is > THE bible for Halloween and related diversions. If the Morris > catalog doesn't carry it, it's not worth buying...as the cliche > turns... > > Point being, the Phillip Morris company is the Big Bad Dude > on the block. You can expect any Big Bad Dude to jealously > guard their copyrights. And copyright laws are no small > thing. In most cases, it's how people make their livings. > That's why this administration is so interested in enforcing > the anti-piracy laws against foreign nations. > > So now we've gone from the small to the big picture. Let's > go back again. Be very, very careful what you disseminate > on the list. Some material simply is not public domain. > Some IDEAS are, but printed material is not until something > like 75 years after initial publication (can anyone confirm/ > deny that?). So distributing Morris' published material is > a violation of copyright laws. Doing ascii drawings of the > Pepper's Ghost illusion (the Morris book calls it the "Classic > Spirit Method") is not a copyright violation. Fine line? > Yes and no. But you can take the Pepper's concept, call it > anything you like, put it in a book with your own instructions > and illustrations and publish/copyright it up the wazoo and > you will not be violating copyright laws. > > The illusion has, after all, been around since the late > 1800s. And the Disney Haunted Mansion uses it to great > effect...they can not sue Phillip Morris for using Pepper's > in their book, Morris can not sue Don Bertino for his > ascii drawings. Once you publish someone else's work > without permission and/or compensation, you're in deep > doo-doo. > > But I don't think this isolated instance will draw Phil's > attention. I hope... :) > > - Stu > Thanks Denny and Stu, I'll remember that. I'll be a good boy now and hope Granmpa Morris forgives me. --Jason > From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Thu Jul 25 22:41:55 1996 From: DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 18:31:06 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: "Ghost In The Mirror" (Disney HM Effect) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Stu, I know someone already mentioned the 'outdoor flying ghost' system as a solution to your "ghost in the mirror" effect, but I thought I would toss out a possibile addition to it. Have the ares that your guests are passing through covered by a series of motion detectors. In each detector zone, the ghost will only move if two conditions exist: 1) people are present in the zone, and 2) the ghost is still in the same zone behind the two way mirror. This will require some sensinmg switches along the path taken by the ghost (one for each zone) and some simple relay logic, but should achieve the result to a certain degree. At the end of your walkway, the ghost could be programmed to circle back around and stop before reaching the first mirror segment, waiting for the next guest to step into the first zone. Just a thought. -Doug F. From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Thu Jul 25 23:24:02 1996 From: Peepley@aol.com Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 07:54:18 -0400 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: test Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: can read, have read jas From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Thu Jul 25 23:42:41 1996 Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 05:59:11 -0600 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: The Polaroid Double-Exposure Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Think I found the info on making Polaroid double exposures. As Karen mentioned, the subject was brought up several years ago in relation to possible fraud during the Gulf Breeze, FL UFO sightings. Check the following web sites for the brief discussion (if you can't reach the WWW, let me know and I'll pull off an ASCII version and mail it to you). Cheers! http://liquefy.isca.uiowa.edu/info/paranet/infopara/3xx/331 http://liquefy.isca.uiowa.edu/info/paranet/infopara/3xx/332 From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Thu Jul 25 23:52:11 1996 Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 09:46:45 -0400 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: kahnn@pa.net (Nathan Kahn) Subject: Re: Flash Paper Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: >>Gee Tad. Either you have a great markup or you're paying too much. We sell >>the envelopes to dealers for $****. What kind of igniters are you refering to? >> >>Nathan (Theatre Effects) >Well, gee, Nathan, why dion't you sell it to Amy then. > >And Btw I am a retail outlet, I am not cheap, I am not wholesale, I am not >Target. If you want Target type service along with Target type peices you >can go ahead and contact Nathan. Unless of course Nathan won't sell it to >you and then his price is Bullshit anyway, and if Nathan does sell to the >public, then he is backstabbing companies that buy his products. Actually I >don't know of anyone in California that does. > >Tad Peters Tad, that message to you was a *private* one (off-list), and was simply an offer to sell you flash paper wholesale for $****, since from your retail price I believe it is likely that you are paying more than that. I can't sell Amy flash paper for $**** (unless she decides to open a store). Thanks for publishing my confidential wholesale price on the 'net . . . I'm sure all the retailers of flash paper in the United States are grateful . . . Nathan ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Nathan Kahn Home: kahnn@pa.net Work: nathan@theatrefx.com Work Web: http://www.theatrefx.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Fri Jul 26 00:09:17 1996 Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 13:01:35 -0700 (PDT) To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: rrhill@ucdavis.edu (Rick Hill) Subject: Re: Halloween 'Soft-toy' Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: >On Sun, 21 Jul 1996 DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu wrote: > >> If you possess a Macintosh system, and have a copy of Hypercard 2.0 >> or higher, send me a mail message, and I'll return you a copy of my >> "Dark Ride Construction Set" via UUencode, Binhex, or the format >> of your choice. It's especially nice for kids and the young-at-heart, >> although it's nothing to compare with the recent roller coaster simulators >> on the market. >> >> The stack performs a card-by-card animation of a trip through a fantasy] >> dark ride found in an abandoned amusement park. When you have ridden >> the 'relic', you are offered the opportunity to program your own ride. >> Instructions (help-driven) are included, and those who love to create >> their own graphics (and know their way around hyperCard) will have a >> bit of fun with this. > >But... But..... But.... I don't have a Mac... Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhh.... > >Sounds like fun! > >don >bertino@netcom.com ____/^\_____________________________________ It is! Richard Hill Computer Operations Manager Office Phone: (916) 757-3002 UCD Bookstore FAX: (916) 757-3010 UC Davis E-Mail: rrhill@ucdavis.edu From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Fri Jul 26 00:25:42 1996 Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 21:34:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Lund To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Ref: Flying Crank Ghost Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: I just finished the flying crank ghost posted by Doug Ferguson. It works great!! His directions were very complete and I did not have much trouble getting a working ghost. What little problems I came across I am going to post. Maybe it will help some others out. I purchased 1x1/8 by 3 feet aluminum for the crank. The final measurement from the motor shaft to the swivel I found best at 16 inches. I started at 18 1/2 inches but this was just a little to long. 3/8 plywood is quite flexible, I had to put 1x1 supports around the perimeter of the 4x4 to keep it from flexing. I think if I had to do it again I would use 1/2 or 3/4. Lots of trouble with the pulley's, first I bought non-swivel pulley's then I went and bought swivel pulley's (quite expensive). I still had problems. Since I was using 70 lb. test Kevlar fishing line which is very strong and abrasive resistant, I just used a smooth screw in eye bolt where the line goes to the head, no pulley there. The only swivel pulley I needed was the one leading to the counterweight. The arm pulley's I left as fixed. I had no trouble with the armature, but it took me 2 days to find Blue Florescent paint. I got the motor that Doug recommended from Grainger's (2Z806), it cost $40.90. It is quite powerful and I recommend it. Spencer gifts had the black light on sale for $19.99. It is 18 inches and 15 watts. I had room to mount it on the underside of the plywood in the front and it also works very good. On the Styrofoam head, I hollowed out the eyes, cut off the nose and made 2 nostrils there. I made the mouth an oval shape. Eye sockets, nostrils and mouth were painted black. 2 of my grandchildren won't go near it. (I have 13 grandchildren). I installed the eyes and potentiometer and am running the LED's with a 9 volt battery. I carved out the back of the skull and mounted the battery and pot right back there. If anyone knows how I can make the eye's go bright and dim automatically I would like to know. Manually doing that with the pot looks great, and I would like to automate that feature. I have a 2 car garage with a 16 foot door in front. The door has 4 panes of glass in them. I mounted the whole thing to the rafters in the center of my garage. My wife would not let me bring the thing in the house and start making holes in the ceiling to mount it. When you walk up the driveway to the house you cannot miss the apparition flying in the black light in the dark garage. My neighbor gave me an oil burner transformer so I made a Jacobs ladder. This will also go in the garage and looks great next to the ghost. I really like having it in the garage so no one will get hurt or destroy the fragile ghost. I am really a newbie to this list, but so far I have built the flying crank ghost and the Jacobs ladder. Next I want to make the flying ghost, the outdoor one with the bicycle tire rims. Maybe next year. Anyone that wants a really nice effect for Halloween, I highly recommend the Flying Crank Ghost by Doug Ferguson. Thanks Doug!!! Larry _ ___c \ _| \_ __\_| oooo \_____ ~~~~|______________/ ~~~~~ Lawrence H. Lund 179 Studley Street Brentwood, NY 11717 E-mail: llund@suffolk.lib.ny.us llund179@aol.com llund@worldnet.att.net Phone: (516)-231-8790 Fax: (516)-434-9315 From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Fri Jul 26 00:33:08 1996 From: DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 12:01:27 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Halloween 'Soft-toy' To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: >But... But..... But.... I don't have a Mac... Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhh.... Oooooh! Well, Don, you can have a used Mac Plus for about $100.00, from what I hear. :-) It'll run on that. ::ducking and running:: -Doug F. From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Fri Jul 26 00:45:20 1996 To: halloween-l From: William E Rompala Date: 25 Jul 96 15:17:40 Subject: Re: Communication problems... Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Call me 7. 007. I already have people scouting out motors and LEDs for me and am ready to go! -W William Rompala Waiting for JPGs! Rompala Consulting To: halloween-l @ netcom.com @ SMTP cc: From: DWFWW @ jazz.ucc.uno.edu @ SMTP Sent: Wed 07/24/96 07:07:34 PM EDT Subject: Re: Communication problems... >Add me to the list. I've had this large geared motor I've been hanging on to >for years (It's actually been in the family for about 30 years) that I've >wanted to do something with, this is perfect. Great! This makes you number 6 or 7 of the builders. :-) I've never had such a response to a porject like this! Best of luck. -Doug F. (make that 'project'. Oops.) From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Fri Jul 26 02:15:31 1996 From: DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 21:20:52 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Spirits Font To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Re: Spirits Font >I thought someone had used it in their web page and wanted to check it out! I just used it in the illustrations for the Flying Crank Ghost plans. Download the graphics from Don's site: crank1.jpg thru crank4.jpg -Doug From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Fri Jul 26 02:21:10 1996 From: DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 21:47:14 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Window Display and Low-Light Photography To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: >Do you know anyone who can do fast film and timed exposures >on a tripod for you? I can do this. I was referring to videotape. :-) I will do time exposures of the window this year, and it will have an improved ghost as well. It uses a miniature version of the FC Ghost system with the same motor. I can't have pictures ready in advance, alas. Just the construction phase shots, one of which is a test with a ghostly skeleton sitting on the corridor floor. Sorry for the confusion! -Doug From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Fri Jul 26 07:36:14 1996 Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 07:08:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Bertino To: xmas-l@netcom.com, halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Attention Pegasus mail users (RCPT messages) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: ATTN: PEGASUS MAIL USERS!!! Your mailer is responsible for the "RCPT" messages that have been flooding the lists, since Pegasus has a feature that demands a receipt be sent back once people have read your message. To switch off this feature press F9 before you send a message, and check that there is an 'N' next to the column entitled 'Confirm Reading' and 'Confirm Delivery'. Thanks for your help in this matter. don bertino@netcom.com ____/^\_____________________________________ Disney ascii art & / \ || FDC MCP || / \ animations are at <______\ [] [] [] || [] [] [] || [] [] [] /______> http://www.calweb.com \----------------||----------||----------------/=== /~bertino===============\______________||__________||______________/===== From owner-xmas-l@netcom.com Fri Jul 26 08:05:46 1996 Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 07:08:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Bertino To: xmas-l@netcom.com, halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Attention Pegasus mail users (RCPT messages) Reply-To: xmas-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: ATTN: PEGASUS MAIL USERS!!! Your mailer is responsible for the "RCPT" messages that have been flooding the lists, since Pegasus has a feature that demands a receipt be sent back once people have read your message. To switch off this feature press F9 before you send a message, and check that there is an 'N' next to the column entitled 'Confirm Reading' and 'Confirm Delivery'. Thanks for your help in this matter. don bertino@netcom.com ____/^\_____________________________________ Disney ascii art & / \ || FDC MCP || / \ animations are at <______\ [] [] [] || [] [] [] || [] [] [] /______> http://www.calweb.com \----------------||----------||----------------/=== /~bertino===============\______________||__________||______________/===== From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Fri Jul 26 10:34:40 1996 Date: Fri, 26 Jul 96 06:22:58 EDT To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Bill Lewis Subject: Re: Disney's Haunted Mansion/Phanton Manor Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: At 04:24 PM 7/19/96 EST, you wrote: >Imagineer Wannabee Don writes: Actually, to some degree, Disney's Imagineer's inspired me to become an engineer. > One of the unfortunate things is that I can't download > the midi files off your web page (that is, I could, but > can't play them). I did, and I can, though for some reason there is alot of vibrato in the HM music when played through my old soundcard at home (PAS16 using FM synth), but it sounds alot better running it through my old Roland MT-32. Can't wait to take it to a friend's house. He has an awsome ($1K +/-) Midi module. Come by sometime Stu, and I'll play it for you. From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Fri Jul 26 11:14:59 1996 Date: Fri, 26 Jul 96 06:50:48 EDT To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Bill Lewis Subject: Re: Window Display and Low-Light Photography Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: At 06:06 AM 7/25/96 -0600, you wrote: > writes: > >> I would love to do that [photograph it], but the display is very >> 'low-light' and works only at night. I have photos, however, of >> the construction phase, and a complete writeup of the project is in >> the works...MORE... > >Ahh...yes...same problem I have. Virtually all of my old photos of >Halloweens past are blasted by flash. One year, I got someone who >half knew what she was doing to use 1000 speed film and a tripod, and >I got two okay prints of the mansion silhouette in the Window. >Someone who really knew what they were doing would have done much >better. Do you know anyone who can do fast film and timed exposures >on a tripod for you? Most automatic SLR camera's will do low level light w/o a flash (time exposure). All of the pictures of my graveyard (on the web site) were created this way. I use a tripod, and in lieu of using a cable release, I use the automatic timer. I just have to judge the delay so there aren't any cars coming down the road. BTW I also only use whatever speed film is in the camera (usually 100-400). Bill Lewis NSWC Carderock Division Code 6060 (301) 227-2742 lewisw@oasys.dt.navy.mil lewisb@erols.com From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Fri Jul 26 12:02:27 1996 Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 06:41:42 -0600 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Don's Web Site Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: I hadn't checked out Don's Halloween web site for awhile--WOW! And Doug's illustrations for the flying ghost--WOWWOW! I never ceased to be amazed at the talents of the people on this list... From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Fri Jul 26 12:21:38 1996 Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 05:25:47 -0700 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: test Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: As for your test I did receive it, but almost 5 days after you posted it. It is not just this list it is all of them. People on every list I am on with all sorts of different servers and other lists are having the same problem. Kathy the new kid on the crypt From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Fri Jul 26 13:10:42 1996 Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 05:20:53 -0700 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Re[2]: Jumping Out for Halloween Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Stu and Gang, I have just returned from a few days off and see I am as usual in it up to here! I asked for help and ideas and several fine folks jumped in and gave me some great help and ideas. So it is my fault if there is any backlash. I have now bought Mr. Morris's book for myself so no more stuff will be sent, I promise :) To those great people that have been helping me Thank You, sorry I got you in trouble. Stu I hear from someone that you are a great person to just sit down and have a good chat with. They suggested I try it sometime if I want to talk with someone with knowledge and good ideas. On the bright side of all this is that maybe Mr. Morris will hear about this and join our group!! You never know... Kathy as usual causing trouble the new kid on the crypt From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Fri Jul 26 13:17:26 1996 Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 12:32:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Bertino To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: test Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: On Fri, 26 Jul 1996, Michael Marcrum wrote: > As for your test I did receive it, but almost 5 days after you posted it. > It is not just this list it is all of them. People on every list I am on > with all sorts of different servers and other lists are having the same > problem. It has to do with mailing lists. Most mail readers set Precedence: as list or junk. This is the lowest order of mail to be sent or recieved. In other words, when the mailer's have nothing better to do, send this mail.... Everything goes before it. On a busy server, that's a couple of days. I'm looking for other servers BTW. don bertino@netcom.com ____/^\_____________________________________ Disney ascii art & / \ || FDC MCP || / \ animations are at <______\ [] [] [] || [] [] [] || [] [] [] /______> http://www.calweb.com \----------------||----------||----------------/=== /~bertino===============\______________||__________||______________/===== From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Fri Jul 26 13:25:56 1996 From: milwiron@btprod.com Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 10:49:23 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Hi-Tech Halloweenies: aerogels Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: At 08:27 AM 7/24/96, you wrote: >I did some surfing on this to find out about it. They really look cool: Do a >lycos search on aerogel. > >Well, good news and bad news. or fax (508) 480-0328 >The Bad News: > >The current price is $2,000 per cu. ft. (in any form) for >quantities under 10 cu. ft. I found the same basic info. Oh well, back to cheese cloth and urethane foam for me. Denny B.T. Productions' Terror By Design 708-830-9561 fax 708-830-9577 Haunt Supplies & Scare Wares From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Fri Jul 26 15:25:42 1996 From: DSparks@mercury.ligand.com Date: Wed, 24 Jul 96 16:26:49 PST To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Colored Light Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Ah lightsticks, now there is something I hadn't thought of. That might be just the safety-oriented thing to do also since it would not be affected by the fog :) Thanks Doug dsparks@ligand.com ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Colored Light Author: halloween-l@netcom.com at gateway Date: 07/24/96 03:32 PM : > I am going to try the fog spitting > pumpkins this year, and am looking > for a way to get a red or maybe > blue light inside the pumpkin. I can think of a number of ways. Run C7 pinchlights into your pumpkin, or string a regular C7 Christmas strand from pumpkin to pumpkin with burned out bulbs in the sockets you don't want to use. Or create a pinchlight with a C7 nightlight and an extension cord (all of these are nontechy, nonwiring ways!). Or, use a candle with cellophane or tissue in the desired colors behind the cut-out features--although you'd have to make auxillary openings for the "smoke" to escape. How about using Cyalume lightsticks inside the jack-o'-lanterns? They make them in red, white, and blue glow now, as well as the usual green. From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Fri Jul 26 15:26:57 1996 From: DSparks@mercury.ligand.com Date: Wed, 24 Jul 96 16:26:53 PST To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: halloween-l unaccessable Re: Font question... -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: I'm Doug, but I don't have any pictures :) How does your possible change of provider affect the list Don? ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: halloween-l unaccessable Re: Font question... -Reply Author: halloween-l@netcom.com at gateway Date: 07/24/96 11:31 AM On Tue, 23 Jul 1996, Lauren Jones wrote: > Doug, where is the site you used "Spirits" on? I'd like > to see it! (I'm not Doug...) :) He did some great images that I put up on the halloween-l web site. It is a great looking font. BTW, it is down. Calweb ftp space (where all the files are) has been down from 07/23/96 to current and they don't know when it will back up. (Hopefully today) I have been checking around and it looks like the halloween-l mailing list will be moving soon to Best.com I have heard nothing but good things from Best users (most former netcom.com users) Go figure..... If anyone out there has any experince with best.com good or bad, please email me directly. Thanks, don bertino@netcom.com ____/^\_____________________________________ Disney ascii art & / \ || FDC MCP || / \ animations are at <______\ [] [] [] || [] [] [] || [] [] [] /______> http://www.calweb.com \----------------||----------||----------------/=== /~bertino===============\______________||__________||______________/===== From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Fri Jul 26 18:05:41 1996 From: milwiron@btprod.com Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 08:45:39 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: the mummy, LONG POST Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: At 06:43 PM 7/24/96 -0600, you wrote: > >>The door knocker you see at Don's site of Halloween images and on my home >>page was a rush Saturday project just before last Halloween. > >A darn NICE rush project! Looks great. >-Doug F. > Thanks Doug, You'll notice I never mention how long it takes to clean my small shop after totally trashing it with Halloween projects. ;) Denny B.T. Productions' Terror By Design Haunt Supplies & Scare Wares From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Fri Jul 26 18:28:02 1996 From: milwiron@btprod.com Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 08:45:41 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: "Ghost In The Mirror" (Disney HM Effect) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: At 06:31 PM 7/24/96 -0600, you wrote: > >Stu, > >I know someone already mentioned the 'outdoor flying ghost' system >as a solution to your "ghost in the mirror" effect, but I thought I >would toss out a possibile addition to it. Have the ares that your >guests are passing through covered by a series of motion detectors. Just thinkin'... This whole idea of a walk through attraction with 2-way mirrors and ghosts seems like a perfect place to add anti-masks or reverse masks to the apparitions. They would not only follow you or appear at your side but also "watch" your every move. Nice thing about anti-masks is the fact that each spectator, regardless of position or movement gets the illusion that the face is watching them. Last year I briefly played with putting an anti-mask and small fluorescent light (10 watt) in the hood of a 3 dimensional Grim Reaper figure. It works very well but I wandered off on to other things and never got past the prototype stage. Denny B.T. Productions' Terror By Design 708-830-9561 fax 708-830-9577 Haunt Supplies & Scare Wares From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Fri Jul 26 23:18:23 1996 Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 09:20:27 -0700 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Window Display Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Doug, I am a photographer, if you want a quick idea for how to photograpgh your low light scene let me know and I will send it to you. Kathy the new kid on the crypt From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Fri Jul 26 23:37:16 1996 From: cundiffg@evansville.net Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 12:30:25 -0700 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Crystal Balls/Madame Zu-Zu Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Lauren Jones wrote: > > Kathy writes: > > > I never thought of the fortune teller area. I even > > have the tarot cards and the whole thing. the only > > problem is the cost of the crystal ball :( Any one > > have a idea for a inexpensive crystal ball that looks > > good??? > We have a very popular section called: Madame Zu-Zu. One of our most talented volunteers painted 3- 20' x 20' banners with giant tarot cards, a fortune wheel, et cetera. the inside is still nasty, bright white, but 1996 is another year... Anyway, what we use for lighting AND the crystal ball in this area is -- a small round table with a light socket installed in the middle and place a cloudy light bulb cover over it with can be found at any hardware store (don't hardware stores give you that fun little feeling?). I generally buy one of these each year, since they get broken in storage every year. Last year I found a plastic opaque cover, but it wasn't as cool. The inside of a clear glass cover can be painted and I'll bet you could also make it spin by installing an old 45 rpm turntable UNDER the light socket. And of course there's the option of having a foot pedal on/off control under the table. Sorry, brainstorming as I type--I don't have diagrams or such for this. I am thinking about doing a seance table instead this year with audience participation so that we can give more people the experience at once. Madame Zu-Zu can only see about 100 kids a night...as opposed to the 1000 we sometimes have. she does the reading of palms and checking of the crystal ball for kids and then does a bit of a take on Santa Claus--do your homework, mind your parents, eat your veggies (but in a very spooky way--WOW, SHE REALLY IS PSYCHIC) and tells them that they'll grow up healthy, smart, etc. We generally find women who palm read on a regular basis in our community to do this. Often adults will sit down for a real reading as well. The palm readers are generally very willing to play along for the kids--as long as we make it clear that is what will happen. Don't ask a psychic though they get a little pissy since they don't want to taint their talent by playing along with kids. -- Come visit Mesker Park Zoo--http://www.evansville.net/~mpzoo/1zoo.htm From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Fri Jul 26 23:42:44 1996 Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 09:05:34 -0700 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Halloween 'Soft-toy' Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Doug, Just received your post..I do not have a mac....Can I cry now??? Don't want to miss a great idea, any suggestions? Kathy the new kid on the crypt From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Sat Jul 27 02:45:45 1996 From: Ldwarf@aol.com Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 20:00:12 -0400 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: test Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: thanks.... Scott From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Sat Jul 27 05:11:23 1996 From: DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 02:36:44 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Halloween 'Soft-toy' To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: >Just received your post..I do not have a mac....Can I cry now??? It's your party, and you can cry if you want to. :-) I sympathize, of course. If I owned a dysfunctional computer, I'd cry, too. ;-) You can shoot me now, or wait 'till you get home. -Doug F. From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Sat Jul 27 05:27:12 1996 From: DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 00:06:36 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: the mummy, LONG POST To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: >You'll notice I never mention how long it takes to clean my small shop >after totally trashing it with Halloween projects. ;) Denny, Ask my wife (Barbara) what the living room looked like during my last fabrication. I betcha she can't answer that one in a polite fashion. And she's nice, too. ;-) -Doug F. From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Sat Jul 27 05:36:33 1996 From: DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 02:24:01 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Window Display To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Kathy, I do know how to do low light photography - sweet of you to offer your assistance, but I was at fault in my posts. I referred to my lack of low-lux VIDEO equipment, but represented this as an inability to deal with low-light photography. >sigh!< Forgive me. I would, however, love to hear your suggestions! :-) ::leaning closer with an attentive, even if mutant, ear...:: >in an affected voice< Yeth, misthress mathter, pleethse tell Igor whath he should do! Your obedient servant, -Doug 'the things my wife calls me!' Ferguson ::chuckle:: From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Sat Jul 27 05:41:26 1996 From: DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 02:33:29 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Crystal Balls/Madame Zu-Zu To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: The Tarot.... UH-OH! Does this mean I am going to have to offer my freeware TarotMatic Hypercard Stack to the group?! Good grief! I'm a rational person... Noooo! Please... don't twist my already twisted wrist! Besides... I don't believe in psychic phenomena! That's why I wrote it...! Arrgh!! ::sounds of perfectly rational imagineer being horribly crushed under the weight of his own delusions:: Well, I'm dead now, so I guess it no longer matters. :-) -Doug Ferguson P.S. You will eventually learn to keep some people from joining this list. ;-) From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Sat Jul 27 08:48:31 1996 Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 08:35:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Bertino To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Halloween 'Soft-toy' Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: On Sat, 27 Jul 1996 DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu wrote: > > >Just received your post..I do not have a mac....Can I cry now??? > > It's your party, and you can cry if you want to. :-) > I sympathize, of course. If I owned a dysfunctional computer, I'd cry, too. > ;-) > You can shoot me now, or wait 'till you get home. Come'on people, I'm sure someone has a mac that their using as a doorstopper somewhere that they'll let Kathy and I play with...... *rucks and duns* don "who believes this list is nearing a 100 year holy war" bertino@netcom.com ____/^\_____________________________________ Disney ascii art & / \ || FDC MCP || / \ animations are at <______\ [] [] [] || [] [] [] || [] [] [] /______> http://www.calweb.com \----------------||----------||----------------/=== /~bertino===============\______________||__________||______________/===== From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Sat Jul 27 10:15:26 1996 From: htraver@dreamsys.com Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 09:59:16 -0700 Subject: Re: Crystal Balls/Madame Zu-Zu To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Doug, you must be careful if you use Tarot cards. You know that last week, I played poke with a set of Tarot cards....got a full hour...and 4 people died! Tony [ Sent From: Dreamscape Systems - dreamsys.com ] [ Location: Van Nuys, CA - (818) 781-7529 ] From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Sat Jul 27 14:23:23 1996 From: DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 10:59:38 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Halloween 'Soft-toy' To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: >Come'on people, I'm sure someone has a mac that their using as a doorstopper >somewhere that they'll let Kathy and I play with...... I hafta chuckle. And I am not trying to start a platform war, folks! :-) I just have this software that needs users so it won't feel lonely sitting in a box with a bunch of floppies. You'd probably feel lonely, too. So, go find a Doorstop Plus and ask for the file. -Doug (the frustrated imagineer) From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Sat Jul 27 14:37:29 1996 Date: Sat, 27 Jul 96 09:58:37 -0700 (PDT) To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: bdosfx@wimsey.com (Brian D. Oberquell) Subject: Shop clutter Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: >>You'll notice I never mention how long it takes to clean my small shop >>after totally trashing it with Halloween projects. ;) > >Denny, > >Ask my wife (Barbara) what the living room looked like during my >last fabrication. I betcha she can't answer that one in a polite >fashion. And she's nice, too. > >;-) > >-Doug F. Boy, can I relate! When we bought our place a few years ago, the main requirement was a basement area I could use as a shop or an enclosed garage that I could take over; fortunately, the previous owners had converted a d/s bedroom into a shop with lots of shelving for reference books and materials, *and* a workbench at the right height (Happy Happy Joy Joy!) and couldn't quite understand why I adamantly refused their offer to convert the room back... It's messy almost all the time..but it's MY mess and my wife doesn't have to deal with stuff strewn all over the dining table as in our old apartment! Brian ______________________________________________________________________________ Brian D. Oberquell The Wizard's Den SPFX Studio 210 Cornell Way Port Moody, B.C. CANADA V3H 3W2 Phone (604) 931-6298 Pager (604) 895-3721 From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Sat Jul 27 20:32:48 1996 Date: Sat, 27 Jul 96 09:58:29 -0700 (PDT) To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: bdosfx@wimsey.com (Brian D. Oberquell) Subject: Re: Colored Light Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: > > Ah lightsticks, now there is something I hadn't thought of. That > might be just the safety-oriented thing to do also since it would not > be affected by the fog :) > > Thanks > > Doug > dsparks@ligand.com Lightsticks are nice -- so nice that the sticks I put in my pumpkins are frequently "liberated" and when I come back from doing my Halloween fireworks show my pumpkin is dark... Oh well, I guess that's to be expected when I'm not there to watch out for them -- but they're a heck of a lot safer than unattended candles :-) Brian ______________________________________________________________________________ Brian D. Oberquell The Wizard's Den SPFX Studio 210 Cornell Way Port Moody, B.C. CANADA V3H 3W2 Phone (604) 931-6298 Pager (604) 895-3721 From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Sat Jul 27 20:35:06 1996 Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 14:10:05 +0100 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: makeup@earthlink.net (Tad Peters) Subject: Scott & Phil Morris Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: >Stu and Gang, > I have just returned from a few days off and see I am as usual in it up >to here! I asked for help and ideas and several fine folks jumped in and >gave me some great help and ideas. So it is my fault if there is any >backlash. I have now bought Mr. Morris's book for myself so no more stuff >will be sent, I promise :) To those great people that have been helping >me Thank You, sorry I got you in trouble. > Stu I hear from someone that you are a great person to just sit down >and have a good chat with. They suggested I try it sometime if I want to >talk with someone with knowledge and good ideas. On the bright side of >all this is that maybe Mr. Morris will hear about this and join our >group!! You never know... >Kathy >as usual causing trouble >the new kid on the crypt I will be seeing Scott and Phil Morris this weekend, and I will see if they can drop us a note. Tad. Tad Peters A. Harlequin Costume makeup@earthlink.net 9589 Foothill Blvd http://home.earthlink.net/~makeup Rancho Cucamonga, CA 91730 murphy_for_congress@desktop.tyrell.com (909) 948-2950 From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Sat Jul 27 20:44:10 1996 From: "Sue" To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 14:57:18 +0000 Subject: Our Project this year!! Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Hello All, Took me a while to get excited about this year, but my hubby took me out to Garden Ridge and we looked over the new things that they have and i saw a small (oh those clappy things) any way I saw it and wanted it but not just a small thing. Ok OK here is what it looked like ..a grim reeper sitting at a pipe organ. he plays evil music Organ music..I want to make this life size .. Hubby and I have been planning and planning...This will be in addition to our spider on the house roof ( which I am STILL trying to get Dan to scan in ) For the organ we will have decided to use PVC pipe and spray paint the pipe Chrome or metalic silver or gold maybe eben bronze..we will have a skirting around the bottom of the organ so no one can see the movement we are still arguing about how to do the grim reaper and how to make him move. Also how to have the pipes out in front of him and still have the reeper be seen. Any more Ideas on thos or helpful hints?? Also as for our spider ..last year as you recall we put a really really big spider on our roof...we made him out of garbage bags and newspaper..however the grit on the shingles easily ripped the garbage bage and we were lucky that it never rained for out newspaper would have been a mess!! this year we have gotten a suggestion to use Flag Nylon and grocery bags!! Sounds pretty water proof. we will try it .I have alot of sewing to do here soon ..really hard with a 2 year old and a 8 week old!! SO the real reason I am mentioning this is we just put a new roof on and want to keep the walking on the roof to a minimum...but I loved how we did it last year !! it was so fun to do and it looked great .( my opinion I know) but had many compliments on it. have som really religous people across that thanked us for keeping it "safe" and "clean " what ever that means!! Any Ideas ?? I really would like it on the roof and "i think if we tie it this year it will be much better and we wont have to be on the roof much! Dan wants to put it up on Boards>..(YUCK) !! I do understand we dont want to ruin the new roof!! We also want to make a grave yard we will see how much we get done :0 Halloween is not far away !! happy hunting,stabbing slicing hanging:):):) Sue and Dan Oelke From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Sat Jul 27 20:48:54 1996 From: "R. C." To: Subject: Re: Halloween 'Soft-toy' Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 15:31:31 -0700 Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: > Come'on people, I'm sure someone has a mac that their using as a doorstopper > somewhere that they'll let Kathy and I play with...... This year for the fourth rather than buying fireworks I spent the same amount and bought an old Mac and blew the thing to bits, it gave me a greater satisfaction watching it fly in the sky in millions of little pieces. :) so much for a doorstop. Sorry Don! (Ya all know I was just kiddin'. I do hate Macs but I don't have $10,000 to buy a Mac to do that to!) Ryan C web: http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/ccnet/disney.htm Here You Leave Today and Enter The World Of Yesterday, Tomorrow, and Fantasy. Inscription above entrance to Main Street, USA, Disneyland. From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Sun Jul 28 03:16:43 1996 Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 21:06:34 -0700 (MST) To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: snobuny@primenet.com (Snow Bunny!) Subject: "killer" guy!! Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Sorry for butting into the disscusions but I HAD to let you guys know about this disgusting creature my store just got. I work for Michaels Arts and Crafts (as some of you might already know) but we just received some of our halloween stuff this past week and in it was this 3 foot creature that is dressed all in black with a pretty good scared up face and the great part is that part of his scull is exposed revealing very relistic BRAINS!!! Oh its great! The other floral designer and our General Manager thought it was gross and put a hat on it for our dispay that we put up, well the next day when I went to work I got to totally redo the display (AMATURES GEEEEESH) and tossed the hat and put a spot light on it to do it up. Plus I added some great HIGH HIGH gloss finish on the brain part to really make it look wet and oooozing. Oh what I dont do to play up the gore. Well I then went and purchased it so when the display comes down in September hes all mine!! I think they probably sent one or so to each store, ya might want to give it a try. He was 19.99 but wait till the sales and they usually go anywhere from 40 to 50 percent off. Just a quick one from the bun!!! Snow Bunny From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Sun Jul 28 13:20:13 1996 From: DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 09:48:30 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Crystal Balls/Madame Zu-Zu To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Tony, LOL! Were Pentacles wild? -DF From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Sun Jul 28 13:29:06 1996 From: htraver@dreamsys.com Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 07:57:26 -0700 Subject: Our Project this year!! To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com