Status: O X-Status: For the organ, I once used rolled up paper spray painted silver. Cardboard tubes can work. Pape is super light for making tubes, and if it burns, there's very little mass to burn. That's on advantage over PVC piping. (bad point, rain). For the Reaper, at least he doesn't have to do any standing up so attaching to teh bench would work, tails or robe covering the attachment. You may want to try armature making then dress what you have up. Motors to handle the arms going up and down (I used a live ghoul last time round). For getting the main organ, you can buy them cheap, the old house organs in the Recycler would work. Heck, am selling mine for $35, dual keyboard. or maybe should hold onto it for the next time round I decide to go bananas, got too many things at home.....hmmm.... Harry Traver formerly TonyG@aol.com (trying to kick the ao smells habit) [ Sent From: Dreamscape Systems - dreamsys.com ] [ Location: Van Nuys, CA - (818) 781-7529 ] From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Sun Jul 28 21:28:42 1996 Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 09:07:10 -0700 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: "killer" guy!! Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Snow Bunny, Where can I find a Michaels Arts? I live in Northern Calif. and I don't remember ever seeing one in our area. Let me know need major shopping trip. Thanks Kathy the new kid on the crypt P.S. if not can I order one from your store????? mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Sun Jul 28 21:42:57 1996 Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 09:52:44 -0700 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween Subject: Skulls Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: OK here is a real strange one for you guys. I have found everything just about in all of the catalogs and books I have received, but one thing. I am looking for a Steer Skull. The type that you see in a old western graveyard vulture scene. Any one have any ideas? Anyone have any in there grandma's yard that she doesn't need? I have already had the suggestion of going to a slaughter house and drying my own. Not a Chance :)) There is a point of too far.... Thanks for any ideas Kathy the new kid on the crypt From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Mon Jul 29 04:45:42 1996 From: DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 23:53:35 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Halloween 'Soft-toy' To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: >it gave me a greater satisfaction watching it fly in the sky >in millions of little pieces. :) Ahem. ::sound of throat being cleared... horrifyingly familiar musical accompaniment rises in the background....:: It's a world of David, It's a world of Gates It's a world of Intel, But that's the breaks We'll try not to despair When they tell us it's fair It's a SMALL, SMALL WORLD. Now...try to get that out of your head! ;-) -Doug F. From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Mon Jul 29 04:57:19 1996 From: DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 23:40:08 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Our Project this year!! To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Sue and Dan, Greetings and salutations. I'm new to the list, but I'm already active. >still arguing about how to do the grim reaper and how >to make him move. Hold off on that argument for about another day or two. What I am going to send you may pretty well settle it. I was wondering what I might engineer next, and thought about your Grim (grinning) Reaper organist. This afternoon, I spent about 4 hours drawing up some plans, and am one drawing (and a text writeup) away from being done. "The Grim Organist" is a true animatronic, using two motors and a full upper body armature. His arms move left and right (independently) across the keyboard, as they raise and lower over the keys. The motion seems random, and either motion can be started or stopped independently. I expect the project to cost the builder around $250- $275, but if you have access to scraps, and a bit of creativity, you can do it for less. The instructions will consist of 5 jpeg pictures and a text file. If you've seen the plans for my 'Flying Crank" ghost, this will involve about three times as much work, but should return your investment handily. More details to some within the next two days. Stay tuned. -Doug Ferguson From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Mon Jul 29 08:03:09 1996 Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 07:29:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Bertino To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Dark Ride Construction Set Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 25 Jul 1996, Lauren Jones wrote: > Cool! I can save a binhex here on the PC and transfer it to my Mac > at home! > > An off-the-wall question, but your description of the abandoned > amusement park brought back a memory and a question. The memory is > of reading a juvenile book of fiction about a large family--turn of > the century, I think--where the youngest child disappears on his > tricycle on an off-season, cloudy day and winds up in an abandoned > amusement park. One day, I'll try to track this down. The question > is about an art print of an old carousel, abandoned in a field. > Problem: I don't know the artist or the title. A carousel enthusiast > I ran into at Savage Mill [not a haunted house: a very old textile > mill-turned-antique center!] thought the artist might be French; > someone else suggested Louis Icart as the artist, but so far, no > dice. Still looking. Book and painting--haunting! BTW, I have ride layouts to some of the dark rides at Disneyland in my Disney web site: http://www.calweb.com/~bertino/disney.html don bertino@netcom.com ____/^\_____________________________________ Disney ascii art & / \ || FDC MCP || / \ animations are at <______\ [] [] [] || [] [] [] || [] [] [] /______> http://www.calweb.com \----------------||----------||----------------/=== /~bertino===============\______________||__________||______________/===== From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Mon Jul 29 08:04:47 1996 Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 07:12:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Bertino To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Halloween 'Soft-toy' Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: On Sun, 28 Jul 1996 DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu wrote: > >it gave me a greater satisfaction watching it fly in the sky > >in millions of little pieces. :) > > Ahem. ::sound of throat being cleared... horrifyingly familiar > musical accompaniment rises in the background....:: > > It's a world of David, > It's a world of Gates > It's a world of Intel, > But that's the breaks > > We'll try not to despair > When they tell us it's fair > It's a SMALL, SMALL WORLD. > > Now...try to get that out of your head! ;-) ROFL... I think I've found the scarest music for this years haunted garage.... :) don bertino@netcom.com ____/^\_____________________________________ Disney ascii art & / \ || FDC MCP || / \ animations are at <______\ [] [] [] || [] [] [] || [] [] [] /______> http://www.calweb.com \----------------||----------||----------------/=== /~bertino===============\______________||__________||______________/===== From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Mon Jul 29 08:31:11 1996 Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 07:37:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Bertino To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: "killer" guy!! Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: On Sun, 28 Jul 1996, Michael Marcrum wrote: Hi (I'm not Snow Bunny... :) > Where can I find a Michaels Arts? I live in Northern Calif. and I don't > remember ever seeing one in our area. Let me know need major shopping > trip. Thanks It's Micheal's Craft (I think) and the closest one to you is in Vallejo 707-647-7035 don bertino@netcom.com ____/^\_____________________________________ Disney ascii art & / \ || FDC MCP || / \ animations are at <______\ [] [] [] || [] [] [] || [] [] [] /______> http://www.calweb.com \----------------||----------||----------------/=== /~bertino===============\______________||__________||______________/===== From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Mon Jul 29 08:44:43 1996 From: cundiffg@evansville.net Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 02:20:31 -0700 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Skulls Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: "Antique" dealers in this area sell ones in bad shape for about $150. Regular old cow skulls should do the trick though, unless you really need a 6 foot horn span which unless you're independently wealthy.....I could also post a dealer's number in real and fake skulls. For instance, a juvenile baboon skull will run you about $90. Skulls come complete with certification that the remains were legally obtained. Don't remember how much the other items were--had whole mouse skeletons for $5 or 10 bucks each I think. Stop reading if you're squeamish... Best bet is to call your butcher...boil in regular water until the meat falls off, use a galloon of hydrogen peroxide. It is no grosser than using soup bones. A regular stock pot is as big a pan as you would need. Here at the zoo, we have a few people who reconstruct skulls as a "hobby." They make a great educational tool. (We use various methods: beetles, burial, drying--I don't think you have time to do any of those, but they are all preferable to boiling which can damage skull if not careful.) -- Come visit Mesker Park Zoo--http://www.evansville.net/~mpzoo/1zoo.htm From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Mon Jul 29 09:23:35 1996 Date: Mon, 29 Jul 96 06:28:53 EDT To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Bill Lewis Subject: Re: Shop clutter Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: At 09:58 AM 7/27/96 -0700, you wrote: >>>You'll notice I never mention how long it takes to clean my small shop >>>after totally trashing it with Halloween projects. ;) >> >>Denny, >> >>Ask my wife (Barbara) what the living room looked like during my >>last fabrication. I betcha she can't answer that one in a polite >>fashion. And she's nice, too. >>-Doug F. > >Boy, can I relate! > >When we bought our place a few years ago, the main requirement was a >basement area I could use as a shop or an enclosed garage that I could take >over; fortunately, the previous owners had converted a d/s bedroom into a >shop with lots of shelving for reference books and materials, *and* a >workbench at the right height (Happy Happy Joy Joy!) and couldn't quite >understand why I adamantly refused their offer to convert the room back... I'll be posting pictures to the web site of my latest project, the Garage from Hell. But that's only my old garage, the new garage/workshop is coming alone quite well. I can't wait to get it finished so I can start on some new projects for this year! The roofing goes on later this week, or beginning next week. Then we can start siding, then run the electric, then the doors need to be hung, benches and shelving built, etc... It's gonna be cool!!! > >It's messy almost all the time..but it's MY mess and my wife doesn't have >to deal with stuff strewn all over the dining table as in our old >apartment! This sounds like my computer room, messy all of the time! Bill now available at home: lewisb@erols.com or work: lewisw@oasys.dt.navy.mil You can't keep a down man good. You can beat a dead horse, but you can't make him drink. Even a blind nut gets a squirrel every once in awhile. If it's fixed, don't break it. Measure once, Cut twice. From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Mon Jul 29 12:41:58 1996 From: "skoelke" To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 11:21:42 +0000 Subject: Ok here is another Question... Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: I want real organ music on comming from this thing...no problem in set up..we can put speakers under the pipe organ ... But do they make a CD of Just Minor music ..(that to me would be the scariest) well I know they make discs wiith Minor music but a halloween disc??? PS Doug we already had a duel until first blood..LOL Just kidding ..hubby is excited to see what you have in mind!! (me TOO !!) but that is his part ..I ve got the sewing and face for the reaper as mine (we both have our own Ideas about how things should be done ...and both want to do it OURselves so it is safer to each have our own part..less blood :):) hummmmmmmmmmmm maybe that isnt better...Haahaa haahahhahhhahahahahahaha :):) Have a great day all!!! Sue skoelke@metronet.com smiles are worth millions. :):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):) http://www.metronet.com/~skoelke/ From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Mon Jul 29 17:29:25 1996 From: DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 10:04:35 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Halloween 'Soft-toy' To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: >I think I've found the scarest music for this years haunted garage.... :) Heh.... Actually, I goofed on one line. Should be: "It's a world of BILL, It's a world of Gates..." Geez...I was thinking _music_ and _Gates_ and got the former lead singer of Bread instead of the master of digital dread. But It seems to have worked just as well. :-) -DF From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Mon Jul 29 17:51:25 1996 Date: Mon, 29 Jul 96 09:15:19 CDT From: jeffh@oakhill-csic.sps.mot.com (Jeff Hunsinger) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Skulls Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: I spent a long time looking for these, too. Then I moved to Texas. Stores here sell cow skulls as well as the ultra-demonic goat skulls, among many others. They are not cheap, however. A cow skull at a local store will run anywhere from about $40-$50 on up to over $100, depending on the size of the horns and the condition of the skull. I bought mine in some Mexican border town for $10. If I ever make another run to the border, I'll try to buy some more (they look really cool at night illuminated with red LEDs). Jeff From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Mon Jul 29 21:12:51 1996 Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 04:45:33 -0700 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Our Project this year!! Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Doug, You love to keep us sitting on the edge of our seats don't you. My printer is sitting ready and waiting. Where do you purchase the upper body piece that you mention? Kathy the new kid on the crypt From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Mon Jul 29 23:10:53 1996 Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 14:18:13 -0600 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Minor Music Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: skoelke writes: > I want real organ music on comming from this thing...do > they make a CD of Just Minor music... When we did The Haunted Cathedral, I borrowed LPs (yes, LPs) of Gregorian chants and dubbed a tape of just the minor numbers. To avoid changeovers, lay hands on a cassette deck that does automatic reverse at the end of each side. From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Mon Jul 29 23:22:13 1996 From: DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 17:31:18 -0600 (CST) Subject: The Organist Is Ready. To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Well, folks, I just sent 5 jpegs of the plans for the Grim Organist animatronic up to Don Bertino. He mailed me this morning and asked if he could put them up on the website. Grab them when they go up. I think you'll enjoy them even if you never want to build the figure. This project will be a bit involved, and keep in mind that this figure has not actually been built. These plans are a 'beta test', as it were. If anyone decides to build it, I'll be glad to give all the help I can. Be sure to take photos as you go! Later, -Doug F. From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Tue Jul 30 00:13:55 1996 Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 11:51:11 -0600 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Skulls -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: There used to be a place NYC called Mandible and Maxilla (or something very similar) that carried all kids of real and artificial skulls and skeletons. The problem with your Holsteins and Jerseys, etc., today is that they have no horns! From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Tue Jul 30 00:26:14 1996 From: dbell@cup.portal.com To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Too many weird new listers? Date: Mon, 29 Jul 96 11:41:47 PDT Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Doug Ferguson posted, in part: >P.S. You will eventually learn to keep some people from joining this list! > >;-) Well, Doug, it's a good thing you added that smiley! I can't recall *anyone* we've been sorry to have join us here in the think pit - err, *tank*... Your contributions have been infusing new ideas at a really fertile period; if you know any more like you, invite them!! Dave From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Tue Jul 30 03:39:21 1996 From: DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 23:32:05 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Our Project this year!! To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: >Where do you purchase the upper body piece that you mention? You mean the head for the Flying Crank ghost? It's a wig stand from a discount store or wig merchant. If you mean the Organist, it's in the plans to soon be available on Don's web page. If I'm still acting too dumb for you, enlighten me and I will be happy to tell you. Or am I the wrong Doug? :-) -Doug F. Yeah... that's probably it. From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Tue Jul 30 03:47:15 1996 Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 20:09:01 -0700 (PDT) To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: MilesManor Subject: Halloween crafts and pranks Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Does anyone in this group do any Halloween crafts? On another note while vacuuming the spider webs from around my front door (I know you guys wish I would have left them there) I noticed the thumb tack still in the ceiling from my Halloween prank. A friend and I were drying tomatoes and she told me that her and her siblings use to scare people with the stem off the top of tomatoes, because it looked so much like a spider. Well, I couldn't resist and saved the biggest stem to use in October. I threaded it on some nylon line and thumb tacked it to the ceiling just as you come in the front door, so it would just glaze the top of people's heads as they came in. I have to admit it scared me a time or two, but I was practically rolling on the floor laughing everytime someone came over. Does anyone else have any harmless Halloween pranks? __________________________ |\/\/\/\/\/| Lynne Miles \0 0 0 0 / qoe@sna.com |~~~~~~| Orangvale, CA From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Tue Jul 30 04:05:12 1996 Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 19:36:12 -0700 From: Bob Andrews To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Howdy and web shooters Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Howdy, this is my first time on here. I read in the archives about spider web shooters. Where exactly do you make the slit on the cup? Why is cold vulcanizing fluid better than rubber cement? I'm glad this list exists. It's nice to talk about Halloween in July and not be thought of as a nut case. Bob Andrews bandrews@theatrix.com From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Tue Jul 30 04:13:32 1996 From: "Ryan C" To: Subject: Re: Halloween 'Soft-toy' Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 19:28:36 -0700 Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: > >I think I've found the scarest music for this years haunted garage.... :) > > Heh.... Actually, I goofed on one line. > > Should be: > > "It's a world of BILL, > It's a world of Gates..." I was wondering who David was, Bill works a lot better. Ryan C http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/ccnet/disney.htm Here you leave today and enter the world of Yesterday, Fantasy, and Tomorrow. Inscription over entrance to Main Street. From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Tue Jul 30 05:21:16 1996 From: htraver@dreamsys.com Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 03:47:42 -0700 Subject: Ok here is another Question... To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Sue, the music you'll be looking for for the organ would be BACH music. Tocatta & Fugue in D Minor, Fugue in G Minor (The Little) and Passacaglia in C Minor are THE pieces you'll want for your organ. Also, when it's break time, NEVER forget Dea Man's Party by Oingo Boingo. Pkay it loud. [ Sent From: Dreamscape Systems - dreamsys.com ] [ Location: Van Nuys, CA - (818) 781-7529 ] From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Tue Jul 30 08:06:46 1996 Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 07:42:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Bertino To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Howdy and web shooters Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 29 Jul 1996, Bob Andrews wrote: > Howdy, this is my first time on here. > I read in the archives about spider web shooters. Where exactly do > you make the slit on the cup? Why is cold vulcanizing fluid better than > rubber cement? > I'm glad this list exists. It's nice to talk about Halloween in July > and not be thought of as a nut case. Hi Bob! Dave came up with the ascii design of hte original web shooter. BTW let me put in my two cents for Denny's web shooter. Designed and built by him it works great. Do you have a picture of it on your web site Denny? don bertino@netcom.com ____/^\_____________________________________ Disney ascii art & / \ || FDC MCP || / \ animations are at <______\ [] [] [] || [] [] [] || [] [] [] /______> http://www.calweb.com \----------------||----------||----------------/=== /~bertino===============\______________||__________||______________/===== From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Tue Jul 30 10:03:10 1996 Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 09:06:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Bertino To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: The Organist Is Ready. Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 29 Jul 1996 DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu wrote: > > Well, folks, I just sent 5 jpegs of the plans for the Grim Organist > animatronic up to Don Bertino. He mailed me this morning and asked if > he could put them up on the website. > > Grab them when they go up. I think you'll enjoy them even if you > never want to build the figure. This project will be a bit involved, and > keep in mind that this figure has not actually been built. These plans > are a 'beta test', as it were. If anyone decides to build it, I'll > be glad to give all the help I can. Be sure to take photos as you go! Thank you Doug! They are now up at the web site. Enjoy! don bertino@netcom.com ____/^\_____________________________________ Disney ascii art & / \ || FDC MCP || / \ animations are at <______\ [] [] [] || [] [] [] || [] [] [] /______> http://www.calweb.com \----------------||----------||----------------/=== /~bertino===============\______________||__________||______________/===== From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Tue Jul 30 11:41:33 1996 Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 22:04:46 -0700 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Skulls Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Hi Jeff, Thanks for the lead on the skulls. If you get the chance could you email me a phone number for any of these stores. No hurry and if it is a problem don't worry about it. I thought I might call them and see what I could bargain over the phone. Thanks for your reply and help Kathy the new kid on the crypt From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Tue Jul 30 12:21:57 1996 From: Scott Axworthy Subject: Re: Window Display -> Low Light Video To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 08:39:18 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu writes: > > Kathy, > > I do know how to do low light photography - sweet of you to offer your > assistance, but I was at fault in my posts. I referred to my lack of > low-lux VIDEO equipment, but represented this as an inability to deal > with low-light photography. >sigh!< > At my halloween parties, I have been trying to get some good video but with typical consumer gear the quality and options are not available for low light modes of operation. At the last party I hired a fellow from a local community college communications program. He brought one of the schools cameras that they use for various projects. This camera had several low light modes that really made a difference. The one we ended up using caused somewhat of an MTVish strobing effect. The frames per second are dramatically reduced but the picture was great. This mode captures the mood as well in that it creates somewhat of a slow motion appearence to the video. It really made all the difference and I now have some great video from the parties. It also captured the skeletons doing their thing really well. They look better on the video than they did in real life. -- Scott Axworthy Phone: 206-649-7668 Cascade Design Automation Fax: 206-649-7600 scott@cdac.com http://www.cdac.com From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Tue Jul 30 12:26:46 1996 From: Scott Axworthy Subject: Re: Skulls To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 08:19:09 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: I looked through my Halloween archives and found a reference to a place that sells various type of skull replications. This was a site that Andrew Crawford had found: http://emanate.com/boneclones/ Unfortunately I checked the site again and it says "Temporarily out of Service." The main page is there but the menu is missing. Jeff Hunsinger writes: > > I spent a long time looking for these, too. Then I moved to Texas. > > Stores here sell cow skulls as well as the ultra-demonic goat skulls, among > many others. They are not cheap, however. A cow skull at a local store will > run anywhere from about $40-$50 on up to over $100, depending on the size of > the horns and the condition of the skull. > > I bought mine in some Mexican border town for $10. If I ever make another run > to the border, I'll try to buy some more (they look really cool at night > illuminated with red LEDs). > > Jeff > -Scott -- Scott Axworthy Phone: 206-649-7668 Cascade Design Automation Fax: 206-649-7600 scott@cdac.com http://www.cdac.com From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Tue Jul 30 12:33:34 1996 From: Scott Axworthy Subject: Re: Howdy and web shooters To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 08:49:20 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Bob: Bob Andrews writes: > > Howdy, this is my first time on here. Welcome! > I read in the archives about spider web shooters. Where exactly do > you make the slit on the cup? Why is cold vulcanizing fluid better than > rubber cement? The cup, being attached to the center of the fan blade, forces the web fluid to the outside edge due to centrifugal force. The slot needs to be on this outside edge. Mine is about 3/8" down from the cap of the cup. On the subject of web fluid, cold vulcanizing fluid works and rubber cement doesn't. How's that for a technical answer. I must admit, I never tried rubber cement. The cold vulcanizing fluid is what the "pros" have used for years. The new "pros" use a special formulation web juice created by some company called "Terror by Design." (Can I have the 5 bucks now Denny?) It is supposed to be safer, it does not contain any nasty solvents and is more flame retardent. Check out http://www.btprod.com. If I am not mistaken, there will be another post shortly (or he may have already beaten me) from one of our Halloween Gahhhhd's himself, Mr. Dennis Dahm, the creator of the above, plugged, web juice. Denny has created his own line of web shooters as well and is has a wealth of information on the technical aspects of web shooters. > I'm glad this list exists. It's nice to talk about Halloween in July > and not be thought of as a nut case. We do talk about Halloween all year around here, but I'm afraid your still a nut case. But its okay, we have a rather mixed can of nuts here that share your obsession. > > Bob Andrews > bandrews@theatrix.com > -Scott -- Scott Axworthy Phone: 206-649-7668 Cascade Design Automation Fax: 206-649-7600 scott@cdac.com http://www.cdac.com From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Tue Jul 30 15:08:33 1996 Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 04:49:01 -0700 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Our Project this year!! Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Doug F. You are right and I am wrong. I should be more detailed when I ask questions. I was speaking of the Organist, but as I see by your post if I would show a little patience it will be on the web page. I'm sorry, bad ghost :( Kathy the new kid on the crypt From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Tue Jul 30 15:44:02 1996 From: milwiron@btprod.com Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 06:42:34 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Howdy and web shooters Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: At 07:36 PM 7/29/96 -0700, you wrote: >Howdy, this is my first time on here. > I read in the archives about spider web shooters. Where exactly do >you make the slit on the cup? Why is cold vulcanizing fluid better than >rubber cement? >I'm glad this list exists. It's nice to talk about Halloween in July >and not be thought of as a nut case. Hey Bob, Welcome to the list! I used a couple of small holes (about .025) in my homemade web shooters in the past. They go in the wall of the container near the lid. When I used film cannisters for the container I just used the point of an X-acto knife to "spin" the hole in. Cold vulcanizing fluid is better because the solvent used is "often" not flammable like rubber cement solvents. Check the cans, they'll say "nonflammable solvent". The solvents used in nonflammable vulcanizing fluids are trichloroethylene/trichlorethylene and sometimes methylene chloride. When I used cold vulcanizing fluid, I found Camel brand to work the best, other brands didn't work nearly as well. (The term "nonflammable" applies only to the solvent not the base resin) Rubber cement is very often used (along with primer cord) by SFX people in movies to produce huge fireballs. Rubber cement's heptane, hexane and light naphtha solvents along with the natural rubber base resin are explosive when the proper conditions exist. Please be aware that the finished webs produced by both rubber cement and cold vulcanizing fluid are extremely flammable and should never be used in public attractions where fire safety is a concern... which is why TBD spent months and a bunch of money developing the first web fluid resin that wouldn't support flame. :) Denny B.T. Productions' Terror By Design 708-830-9561 fax 708-830-9577 Haunt Supplies & Scare Wares From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Tue Jul 30 17:35:31 1996 From: DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 09:13:42 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Too many weird new listers? To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: >if you know any more like you, invite them!! Ohh! I'm sorry to say they burned down the master's lab the day he endowed me with the, ah, spark of life. The things they did to him afterward (with shovels, rakes and other implements of destruction) are to vile to post, even here! It's a cruel world. Narf! -D.F. From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Tue Jul 30 18:18:34 1996 From: milwiron@btprod.com Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 10:56:14 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Howdy and web shooters Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: At 07:42 AM 7/30/96 -0700, you wrote: >On Mon, 29 Jul 1996, Bob Andrews wrote: > >> Howdy, this is my first time on here. >> I read in the archives about spider web shooters. Where exactly do >> you make the slit on the cup? Why is cold vulcanizing fluid better than >> rubber cement? >> I'm glad this list exists. It's nice to talk about Halloween in July >> and not be thought of as a nut case. > >Hi Bob! > >Dave came up with the ascii design of hte original web shooter. BTW >let me put in my two cents for Denny's web shooter. Designed and built >by him it works great. Do you have a picture of it on your web site >Denny? > Yup, there's one on the TBD Special Effects page. I also replied to Bob's post separately about vulcanizing fluid, rubber cement and such. Something I didn't mention (forgot) was that the hole sizes you end up with will depend on the brand of vulcanizing fluid you use. It (hole size) may work with one brand but throw glop on the floor with another. If the hole is too big, just tape over part of it to close it down. As I mentioned in my original reply, I found Camel brand to work best, though it did vary from can to can just a little. Remember to shoot those webs responsibly when you use cold vulcanizing fluid or rubber cement, they're very flammable in the finished web. Never shoot rubber cements or flammable types of vulcanizing fluids around any spark, open flame or heat source. The TBD fluid I developed is not based on rubber cement or vulcanizing fluids. Later all, time to take off on the Hog for awhile. :) Denny B.T. Productions' Terror By Design 708-830-9561 fax 708-830-9577 Haunt Supplies & Scare Wares From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Tue Jul 30 21:33:41 1996 Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 04:57:20 -0700 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Howdy and web shooters Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Bob Andrews, I can not help you with the webs, but I am sure you will get plenty of help. I can tell you that you are not a nut case, there are a lot of us closet Halloween addicts. Just remember when us Halloween addicts come out of the closet so do all the family skeletons.....Welcome! Kathy the new kid on the crypt From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Tue Jul 30 21:53:35 1996 Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 05:11:53 -0700 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Halloween crafts and pranks Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Lynne Miles, I love to do Halloween crafts. I like to paint ceramic skulls etc. and have them in our haunted yard. I also love to make T-shirts with themes for the year. With all the new glow in the dark paints out and black lights you can have a great time. Since a lot of Haunted Houses use black lights try this on the back of a T-shirt. Have a normal shirt with some cute little thing painted on its back. Then in GITD paint, draw a skull with big eyes and under it write - BOO! I SEE YOU. Kids get a kick out of it because it only shows when the black light hits it. It is great if you go from area to area because someone turns to tell the person next to them and by that time you are in normal light and can not see it. Also how about Macarame (sp?) a Huge spider web it is very easy and makes a great prop even if you do not have a haunted house. And don't forget the new shrink it products make great spider, ghost, and other great Halloween earrings and necklaces. I can hear you screaming OK enough already.... Kathy the new kid on the crypt From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Tue Jul 30 23:27:05 1996 From: DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 18:12:01 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Our Project this year!! To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Kathy, >I'm sorry, bad ghost :( Hey! NO PROBLEM! Don't do that to yourself. It's on the page now, ant the text will appear here shortly. It almost explains itself in pictures, but for those of us who haven't done much mechanical work, I want to write a few technical notes, and provide a list of problems to avoid. Smile, please. :-) -Doug F. From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Tue Jul 30 23:35:38 1996 From: milwiron@btprod.com Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 14:43:27 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Howdy and web shooters Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: At 08:49 AM 7/30/96 -0700, Scott wrote: >The new "pros" use a special formulation web juice created by some company >called "Terror by Design." (Can I have the 5 bucks now Denny?) No, you still owe me for starting the "tattoo & hooker" thread. ;) >supposed to be safer, it does not contain any nasty solvents and is >more flame retardent. Check out http://www.btprod.com. Less nasty solvent and totally nonflammable, thanks for the plug... but I'm still thinking of a way to get even, it's just not a good time to ship ticking packages. :) Denny B.T. Productions' Terror By Design 708-830-9561 fax 708-830-9577 Haunt Supplies & Scare Wares From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 31 00:51:43 1996 From: milwiron@btprod.com Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 14:47:56 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Window Display -> Low Light Video Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: At 08:39 AM 7/29/96 -0700, Scott wrote: >It really made all the >difference and I now have some great video from the parties. It also >captured the skeletons doing their thing really well. They look better >on the video than they did in real life. > I've seen a video (the G rated version) from Scotty's parties and he's being modest. His skeletons are nothing less than fantastic. (geez, maybe this year I'll finally get invited) Denny B.T. Productions' Terror By Design Haunt Supplies & Scare Wares From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 31 01:00:04 1996 From: skoelke@metronet.com To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 12:09:19 +0000 Subject: Re: Ok here is another Question... Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Thank you for this message. Guess I didn't ask the question correctly!! :):) I know what tipe of music and the composers to look for and from what era I would like ..what i was wondering was if someone knew of a specific halloween CD that would only have these minor pieces so that we would not have to keep repearing the same song over and over ..but someone ( Lauren Jones ) suggested getting ahold of an enled loop tape. (A great Idea.) now i just need to find one and buy the songs that i want and tape them on the endless loop tape! Thanks everyone for all the Ideas pouring in !! Sue Sue, the music you'll be looking for for the organ would be BACH music. Tocatta & Fugue in D Minor, Fugue in G Minor (The Little) and Passacaglia in C Minor are THE pieces you'll want for your organ. Also, when it's break time, NEVER forget Dea Man's Party by Oingo Boingo. Pkay it loud. [ Sent From: Dreamscape Systems - dreamsys.com ] [ Location: Van Nuys, CA - (818) 781-7529 ] skoelke@metronet.com smiles are worth millions. :):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):) http://www.metronet.com/~skoelke/ From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 31 04:00:21 1996 Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 20:12:46 +0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: grizelda@vianet.on.ca (Ron Orr) Subject: Re: Halloween 'Soft-toy' Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: >If you possess a Macintosh system, and have a copy of Hypercard 2.0 >or higher, send me a mail message, and I'll return you a copy of my >"Dark Ride Construction Set" via UUencode, Binhex, or the format >of your choice... After reading all the _nasty_ things people said about Macs, I had to spend _hours_ comforting my sensitive little LC475. Be warned; she's kept copies of _all_ your addresses and has Plans for Hallowe'en herself. I don't know what they are, but she's been snagging pictures of the Unabomber off the Net lately... In any case...Doug, we'd _love_ a copy of the Construction Set. And that TarotMatic would be fun as well (besides, the LC wants to do readings on Certain List Members...) Ron out from the shadows with a psychotic CPU From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 31 07:50:07 1996 Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 07:18:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Bertino To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Halloween 'Soft-toy' Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 30 Jul 1996, Ron Orr wrote: > >If you possess a Macintosh system, and have a copy of Hypercard 2.0 > >or higher, send me a mail message, and I'll return you a copy of my > >"Dark Ride Construction Set" via UUencode, Binhex, or the format > >of your choice... > > After reading all the _nasty_ things people said about Macs, I had > to spend _hours_ comforting my sensitive little LC475. Be warned; she's > kept copies of _all_ your addresses and has Plans for Hallowe'en herself. I > don't know what they are, but she's been snagging pictures of the Unabomber > off the Net lately... Hey! What do you mean by th**^#!~NO CARRIER don bertino@netcom.com ____/^\_____________________________________ Disney ascii art & / \ || FDC MCP || / \ animations are at <______\ [] [] [] || [] [] [] || [] [] [] /______> http://www.calweb.com \----------------||----------||----------------/=== /~bertino===============\______________||__________||______________/===== From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 31 08:04:57 1996 Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 07:28:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Bertino To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Too many weird new listers? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 30 Jul 1996 DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu wrote: > > >if you know any more like you, invite them!! > > Ohh! I'm sorry to say they burned down the master's lab the day he > endowed me with the, ah, spark of life. The things they did to him > afterward (with shovels, rakes and other implements of destruction) > are to vile to post, even here! It's a cruel world. > > Narf! Dear lord, I thought I was the only adult hooked on Pinky and the Brain... :) "Are you pondering what I'm pondering?" "Me and Pipy Longstockings? What would the children look like?" don bertino@netcom.com ____/^\_____________________________________ Disney ascii art & / \ || FDC MCP || / \ animations are at <______\ [] [] [] || [] [] [] || [] [] [] /______> http://www.calweb.com \----------------||----------||----------------/=== /~bertino===============\______________||__________||______________/===== From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 31 08:36:25 1996 From: htraver@dreamsys.com Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 07:37:00 -0700 Subject: Re: Halloween 'Soft-toy' To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Doug, throw a copy of the DRCS onto Don's page and archives. AM interested in it, but it won't run on my machine. (haye BOTH macs and ibms, go figure). (I mean hate). computer type is not so important, as we're all here on a mission---to scare the pants off our guests come the night of All Hallows (grin).... Speaking of dark rides, the newest bizarre dark ride in town is in Iowa called THE UNDERGROUND. Basically, they revamped an old theatre and put a wooden rollercoaster as a dark ride inside. It acts more like a dark ride rather than a coaster, which is truly strange. Anyone tried this new wonder yet? [ Sent From: Dreamscape Systems - dreamsys.com ] [ Location: Van Nuys, CA - (818) 781-7529 ] From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 31 11:05:43 1996 Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 20:26:49 -0700 From: Bob Andrews To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Howdy and web shooters Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Scott Axworthy wrote: > On the subject of web fluid, cold vulcanizing fluid works and rubber > cement doesn't. How's that for a technical answer. I must admit, I never > tried rubber cement. The cold vulcanizing fluid is what the "pros" have > used for years.I've got an old issue of a Cinemagic, an amateur filmaker's mag, that suggests using rubber cement in web shooters. Of course, in another issue they suggest sculpting with powdered asbestos and glue... >Denny has created his own line of web shooters as well and is has a wealth of information on the technical aspects of web shooters. I've talked to Denny on several occasions, (and bought a fog machine from him!) and found him to be very helpful. I'm making a "Flying Ghost" rig also, with much borrowed from your posts, so I'll probably want to pick your brain as that progresses. Thanks! Bob Andrews bandrews@theatrix.com From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 31 11:13:33 1996 date: Tue, 30 Jul 96 20:44 From: dougm@omnicell.com ("DOUG MILLER /6253") to: HALLOWEEN-L@netcom.com Subject: Re: Flash Paper/the test Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Actually, this has the tone of one of the first posts from Tad that I recall seeing on the list. And that's why I read his posts with the appropriate biases. milwiron@btprod.com wrote: > >At 03:00 PM 7/23/96 +0100, Tad wrote: > >>Well, gee, Nathan, why dion't you sell it to Amy then. >>And Btw I am a retail outlet, I am not cheap, I am not wholesale, I am not >>Target. If you want Target type service along with Target type peices you >>can go ahead and contact Nathan. Unless of course Nathan won't sell it to >>you and then his price is Bullshit anyway, and if Nathan does sell to the >>public, then he is backstabbing companies that buy his products. Actually I Sounds like he wants to be more than a little monopolistic. >>don't know of anyone in California that does. >>Tad Peters > > Uh oh, someone's brain finally hit the spin cycle. >Let's see... who should I trust, Nathan or Tad? >Hmmmmm, I know, how about a "bullshit" test? > Hey Tad, are you still Straight From The Grave's only retail outlet? Where >are the original posts you've been replying to? Howz about giving the >"class" another lesson in latex and polymeric chemistry? > >Jes' gotta love it, >Denny > --- When a person cannot deceive himself the chances are against his being able to deceive other people. - Mark Twain From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 31 11:15:16 1996 From: Scott Axworthy Subject: Re: Howdy and web shooters To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 08:55:17 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Denny: > > At 08:49 AM 7/30/96 -0700, Scott wrote: > > >The new "pros" use a special formulation web juice created by some company > >called "Terror by Design." (Can I have the 5 bucks now Denny?) > > No, you still owe me for starting the "tattoo & hooker" thread. ;) > Oops! It just sort of slipped out...okay forget the 5 bucks. > > >supposed to be safer, it does not contain any nasty solvents and is > >more flame retardent. Check out http://www.btprod.com. > > Less nasty solvent and totally nonflammable, thanks for the plug... but I'm > still thinking of a way to get even, it's just not a good time to ship > ticking packages. :) But I did receieve the severed head in a box. I put it in the fridge. It should keep until Halloween :-) -Scott -- Scott Axworthy Phone: 206-649-7668 Cascade Design Automation Fax: 206-649-7600 scott@cdac.com http://www.cdac.com From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 31 11:37:52 1996 From: Scott Axworthy Subject: Re: Window Display -> Low Light Video To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 08:39:18 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu writes: > > Kathy, > > I do know how to do low light photography - sweet of you to offer your > assistance, but I was at fault in my posts. I referred to my lack of > low-lux VIDEO equipment, but represented this as an inability to deal > with low-light photography. >sigh!< > At my halloween parties, I have been trying to get some good video but with typical consumer gear the quality and options are not available for low light modes of operation. At the last party I hired a fellow from a local community college communications program. He brought one of the schools cameras that they use for various projects. This camera had several low light modes that really made a difference. The one we ended up using caused somewhat of an MTVish strobing effect. The frames per second are dramatically reduced but the picture was great. This mode captures the mood as well in that it creates somewhat of a slow motion appearence to the video. It really made all the difference and I now have some great video from the parties. It also captured the skeletons doing their thing really well. They look better on the video than they did in real life. -- Scott Axworthy Phone: 206-649-7668 Cascade Design Automation Fax: 206-649-7600 scott@cdac.com http://www.cdac.com From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 31 18:25:08 1996 From: DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 10:10:38 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Too many weird new listers? To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: >Dear lord, I thought I was the only adult hooked on Pinky and the Brain... :) Heavens! With the only alternative being network sitcoms? :-) The very notion of Orson Welles as a lab mouse is funny enough as it is. YES! -DF From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 31 18:53:23 1996 To: halloween-l From: William E Rompala Date: 31 Jul 96 10:37:42 Subject: [HAL] Fog Machine Question Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Hello All, I have an opportunity to purchase an used fog machine. Anyone know anything about machines manufactured by a company called 'Ness'? Unfortunately that is all of the details I have on it as of yet.. More details will be coming my way soon. Thanks. -W From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 31 18:54:08 1996 Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 12:39:28 -0600 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Music Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: My other favorites are "In the Hall of the Mountain King" from Grieg's *Peer Gynt Suite No. 2." Also the introductory section from Chopin's infamous nocture (which is deciding to take a flying leap from my memory right now--if someone doesn't come up with it by tomorrow I'll check the tape in my car!), and "The Black Swan Lullaby (Aria)" from Menotti's *The Medium*. From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 31 20:23:50 1996 Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 05:08:28 -0700 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Window Display -> Low Light Video Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Denny, If you don't get a invite there just drive my way and come to ours. We would love to have you, plus my daughter (23) would love to see the bike. Now did I miss something about this skeleton???? Kathy the new kid on the crypt From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 31 20:30:11 1996 Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 12:44:12 -0600 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Halloween crafts Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Michael Marcrum Kathy writes: > I love to do Halloween crafts. Me, too! I mentioned awhile back how some black lanterns I made several years ago turned up in turn-of-the-century Halloween postcards in a book I just bought. > ...try this on the back of a T-shirt. Have a normal shirt with > some cute little thing painted on its back. Then in GITD > paint, draw a skull with big eyes and under it write - BOO! > I SEE YOU. A couple of years ago I did a counted crossstitch piece for a local shop of a haunted house called "Somebody's Watching." Parts of the house were stitched with glow-in-the-dark filament. In natural light, it was very nice, but when you turned off the lights, the front door and windows of the house formed eyes, nose, and mouth. From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 31 20:47:03 1996 From: DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 10:57:07 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Halloween 'Soft-toy' To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: >Doug, throw a copy of the DRCS onto Don's page and archives. Well, it's rather large. The binhex is almost a meg. I dunno if Don can afford the space. (Don?) Sorry it wouldn't run. May I ask what error message you got? >Speaking of dark rides, the newest bizarre dark ride in town is in Iowa >called THE UNDERGROUND. Yeah! ACE News had a nice little article on it, which included a map! (ACE=American Coaster Enthusiasts, for those who don't know about it yet.) I want to ride this soooo badly. The article suggested a possible renaissance of the _classic_ dark ride, and I certainly hope so. They suggest that it is the first new one (classic style) built in many years. To quote: "We're told that a series of connected coal mines, which became a hideout for outlaws in the late 1800's, has now had its crumbling structure shored up and is, for the first time, open for park visitors to experience. They'll encounter well-executed effects in cluding animated figures, fog and mist, thunder and lightning, quaking boulders, falling timbers, and even an explosion or three..." In short, I want it in my back yard! Wait. I don't have a back yard. Darn it. -Doug F. From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Wed Jul 31 21:18:30 1996 From: DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 10:44:00 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Halloween 'Soft-toy' To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: >In any case...Doug, we'd _love_ a copy of the Construction Set. And >that TarotMatic would be fun as well (besides, the LC wants to do readings >on Certain List Members...) Heh. You have copies by now, as I just sent them along. :-) The neat thing (I think) about TarotMatic 2.0 is that it automatically generates text readings for you, ready to upload. You can add your own comments, then generate a file automatically. In addition, there are graphic representations of each card included, along with boxes for upright and reversed card meanings. You can even edit these to suit your taste. Below, for example si an honest-to-gosh TarotMatic reading for Win95 Heh heh heh heh.... look at this: Tarot Reading for: Win95 : 7/31/96 The Star (Reversed) covers you... Justice (Reversed) crosses you... Ace of Cups (Upright) is behind you... Ace of Wands (Upright) is beneath you... 7 of Swords (Upright) crowns you... 2 of Cups (Upright) is the immediate future... 10 of Swords (Upright) is yourself & your attitude... 4 of Wands (Reversed) is your environment... 3 of Cups (Upright) is your hopes and/or fears... The Lovers (Reversed) is the final outcome... Your significator was: The Fool >End of Reading...Interpretation Below: ------------------------------ The Star Covers You. Keyword: HOPE Meaning: (Reversed)... Arrogance, Haughtiness, Impotence. ------------------------------ Justice Crosses You. Keyword: EQUILIBRIUM Meaning: (Reversed)... Law in all Departments, Bigotry, Bias, Excessive Severity. ------------------------------ Ace of Cups Is Behind You. Keyword: ABUNDANCE Meaning: (Upright)... House of the True Heart, Joy, Content, Abode, Nourishment, Abundance, Fertility, Holy Table (Altar), Felicity Thereof. ------------------------------ Ace of Wands Is Beneath You. Keyword: BIRTH Meaning: (Upright)... Creation, Invention, Enterprise, the Powers which result in these; Principle, Beginning, Source, Birth Family, Origin; the beginning of Enterprises; according to another account, Money, Fortune, Inheritance. ------------------------------ 7 of Swords Crowns You. Keyword: HOPE Meaning: (Upright)... Design, Attempt, Wish, Hope, Confidence; also Quarreling, A Plan That May Fail, Annoyance. ------------------------------ 2 of Cups Is Before You. Keyword: LOVE Meaning: (Upright)... Love, Passion, Friendship, Affinity, Union, Concord, Sympathy, The Inter-Relation of the Sexes. That which Nature Has Sanctified. Conjunction and Fusion Of Opposites. ------------------------------ 10 of Swords Is Yourself and Your Attitude. Keyword: AFFLICTION Meaning: (Upright)... Whatsoever is Intimated by the Design - a Prostrate Figure Pierced by Swords. Also Pain, Affliction, Tears, Sadness, Desolation. ------------------------------ 4 of Wands Is Your Environment. Keyword: COMPANY Meaning: (Reversed)... (Unaltered from Upright Meanings) Prosperity, Increase, Felicity, Beauty, Embellishment. ------------------------------ 3 of Cups Is Your Hopes and/or Fears. Keyword: ISSUE Meaning: (Upright)... The Conclusion of Any Matter in Plenty, Perfection and Merriment; Happy Issue, Victory, Fulfilment, Solace, Healing. ------------------------------ The Lovers Is The Final Outcome. Keyword: ORDEAL Meaning: (Reversed)... Failure, Foolish Designs. [Silliness, in other words] You see? A stunning triumph for pseudo-science. ;-) -Doug Ferguson From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Thu Aug 1 02:03:17 1996 Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 10:28:51 -0700 (PDT) To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: "David \"HOMER\" Simpson (or one of the Clan)" Subject: Re: Halloween 'Soft-toy' Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: >Speaking of dark rides, the newest bizarre dark ride in town is in Iowa >called THE UNDERGROUND. Basically, they revamped an old theatre and put >a wooden rollercoaster as a dark ride inside. It acts more like a dark >ride rather than a coaster, which is truly strange. Anyone tried this >new wonder yet? > >[ Sent From: Dreamscape Systems - dreamsys.com ] >[ Location: Van Nuys, CA - (818) 781-7529 ] > Sounds cool, can you go into some detail, like its ENTiRE contents? >8) -Jason From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Thu Aug 1 02:13:44 1996 Date: Wed, 31 Jul 96 15:41:45 -0700 (PDT) To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: bdosfx@wimsey.com (Brian D. Obequell) Subject: Re: Skulls Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Don't know if they're still in business but I ran across an ad for a company called "Skulls International Unlimited"; here's the address and phone #: P.O. Box 6741 Moore, OK 73153 (800) 659-SKULL I knew there was a reason I hold on to all my old magazines! Brian ______________________________________________________________________________ Brian D. Oberquell The Wizard's Den SPFX Studio 210 Cornell Way Port Moody, B.C. CANADA V3H 3W2 Phone (604) 931-6298 Pager (604) 895-3721 From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Thu Aug 1 04:38:09 1996 Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 20:53:38 -0700 (PDT) To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: MilesManor Subject: Re: Halloween crafts Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: >Also how about Macarame (sp?) a Huge spider web it is very easy and >makes a great prop even if you do not have a haunted house. And don't >forget the new shrink it products make great spider, ghost, and other >great Halloween earrings and necklaces. I can hear you screaming OK >enough already.... >Kathy >the new kid on the crypt Kathy, I AM screaming... but I am saying MORE MORE. I would love to hear about how to make a Huge macrame spider web. Do you have the instructions or the name of the book I could find it in? I have shrink it ear rings and pins. They are fun. Off the craft topic, but on the jewelry topic... last year at the Folsom Renaissance Faire I bought the greatest spider ring. It's body opens up and holds a nutri sweet tablet just fine. I get a lot of comments made about the ring. Lynne __________________________ |\/\/\/\/\/| Lynne Miles \0 0 0 0 / qoe@sna.com |~~~~~~| Orangvale, CA From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Thu Aug 1 07:26:46 1996 Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 23:22:44 -0800 From: Tad Peters To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Halloween 'Soft-toy' Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu wrote: > > >In any case...Doug, we'd _love_ a copy of the Construction Set. And > >that TarotMatic would be fun as well (besides, the LC wants to do readings > >on Certain List Members...) > Hey I would really love a copy of that Tarot-matic. Just send it e-mail if you would. Thanks Tad Peters A. Harlequin Costume makeup@earthlink.net 9589 Foothill Blvd http://home.earthlink.net/~makeup Rancho Cucamonga, CA 91730 murphy_for_congress@desktop.tyrell.com (909) 948-2950 From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Thu Aug 1 11:32:55 1996 Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 13:05:07 -0600 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Halloween 'Soft-toy' -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: These people with nasty intel machines are just jealous. From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Thu Aug 1 15:07:23 1996 Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 21:39:59 -0700 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Halloween crafts Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: I like the idea of the cross stitch that glows. Where can you get the thread for that. It would make a great spider web in the black light area. I just love swapping ideas with everyone. Kathy the new kid on the crypt From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Thu Aug 1 15:33:22 1996 Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 01:30:00 -0400 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: kahnn@pa.net (Nathan Kahn) Subject: Re: [HAL] Fog Machine Question Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: >Hello All, > >I have an opportunity to purchase an used fog machine. Anyone know anything >about machines manufactured by a company called 'Ness'? >Unfortunately that is all of the details I have on it as of yet.. More >details will be coming my way soon. If it is a Ness EZ-Fogger (#EZ-1000) then that is a good reliable machine. I believe brand new they go for around $399, so depending on age I would think $200-250 would be a fair price. The Ness "Blizzard" is also a good machine, and a used one would probably be worth around $375. The Ness EZ-Junior is a new cheap model, not really suitable for real Halloween use, suitable only for casual party use. Nathan ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Nathan Kahn Home: kahnn@pa.net Work: nathan@theatrefx.com Work Web: http://www.theatrefx.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Thu Aug 1 20:00:05 1996 Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1996 10:03:43 -0600 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Halloween crafts -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: I bought a spider ring and bracelet 2 years ago at the Maryland Renaissance Festival--the bracelet is a spider that clings to your wrist... From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Thu Aug 1 22:52:16 1996 Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1996 05:23:02 -0700 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Skulls Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Brian, Thanks for getting me that information. I will give them a call and see what they have to offer. My husbands best friend lives in Moore Oklahoma so if they sound like they have what I want I can send him to go take a look. Thanks again for the lead. And how are your plans for Halloween going? I just want to know does everybody, besides me, change the layout and plans at least once every other day. If I have to rewrite the layout plans one more time.... Kathy the new kid on the crypt From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Thu Aug 1 23:19:30 1996 Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1996 05:43:28 -0700 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Halloween crafts Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Lynne, I sorry, I don't have instructions for the spider web. I saw a picture of one and decided to make it. Last year New York Fabrics sold a small one and I just checked out the knots on it. I am sure if you have any books on Macrame you will find a simple knot that can be used. Let me work on drawing up a pattern that I can put on this computer thing. :))Will really need hubby's help for that job, computer stupid right here. I love the ring. I never miss the local faire. We are happy to report they are holding it in Novato again this year. Only a 20min. drive from here. Do you get dressed up when you go? It is so much fun because the cast of characters will play with you a lot more. I will work on a web instuction sheet. And get it out as soon as I can to you. How are your plans going for Halloween???? Kathy the new kid on the crypt From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Thu Aug 1 23:31:53 1996 From: Jacqui Young To: "halloween-l@netcom.com" , "'Lauren Jones'" Subject: RE: Halloween crafts Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 07:18:25 -0400 Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Me, too! I mentioned awhile back how some black lanterns I made several years ago turned up in turn-of-the-century Halloween postcards in a book I just bought. I missed this post would you mind sending me some information on these = black lanterns. A couple of years ago I did a counted crossstitch piece for a local shop of a haunted house called "Somebody's Watching." Parts of the house were stitched with glow-in-the-dark filament. In natural light, it was very nice, but when you turned off the lights, the front door and windows of the house formed eyes, nose, and mouth. I adore cross-stitching and have done a piece of a haunted house that = had glow in the dark threads as well. What was the manufacturers name = of the piece you did? By the way I admit to being a lurker here. I haven't done much in the = way of Halloween crafts other than cross-stitching (sweatshirts, table = clothes etc.) as well as some ceramics. I would love to get into the = special effects you guys talk about here, but the cost as well as the = vandalism prevalent in our neighbourhood right now have convinced me = that it might not be such a good idea. That and the fact that you seem = to require a degree in electronics. Thanks for letting me lurk. Jacqui Young From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Fri Aug 2 00:38:57 1996 Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 12:24:02 -0700 (PDT) To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: rrhill@ucdavis.edu (Rick Hill) Subject: Regional Get-Together? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: I was wondering how many of you are geograpically close to me and if there would be interest in getting together sometime just to talk about horror effects, share pictures, videos and ideas (and maybe some food and drink)? I'm in Dixon (near Davis near Sacramento). Who all is in the Northern Central Valley/SF Bay Area? I've got a big backyard and pool (as enticement) and would be willing to host a barbque get together for Northern California horror enthusiasts? Just a thought. Anyone interested? Richard Hill Computer Operations Manager Office Phone: (916) 757-3002 UCD Bookstore FAX: (916) 757-3010 UC Davis E-Mail: rrhill@ucdavis.edu From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Fri Aug 2 01:19:51 1996 Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1996 14:23:40 -0600 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Halloween crafts Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Jacqui Young 08/01/96 07:18am asked about: >> I mentioned awhile back how some black lanterns I made >> several years ago turned up in turn-of-the-century >> Halloween postcards in a book I just bought. > I missed this post would you mind sending me some > information on these black lanterns. It was just something I cooked up years ago with large Nestle's Quik cans sprayed black with faces carved out with two sheets of orange tissue behind the features. I wanted to have little faces glowing in a dark corner and from under bushes. Then I got this book (Halloween in America: A Collector's Guide With Prices. Stuart Schneider. Schiffer Publishing, Ltd. 1995. 0-887-40707-2. $29.95) and found several turn-of-the-century postcards with people carrying something that looked very similar. Someday, when I'm in better surroundings, I want to do a turn-of-the-century Halloween party with the traditional Samhain feast (boiled bacon, colcannon, apple cider, etc.). > I adore cross-stitching and have done a piece of a haunted > house that had glow in the dark threads as well. What > was the manufacturers name of the piece you did? It's in a Stoney Creek leaflet called "Spook-tacular Halloween" (Stoney Creek #48. $3.50" (as in the piece) with a couple of smaller designs. Even better is a design in an earlier Stoney Creek (Stoney Creek #27. Treat Yourself. $3.50) called "The Night Watchman"--a lone scarecrow in a field of pumpkins with a witch flying across the moon behind him. It works up real fast and it's very nice--not cutesy like most of the designs you see now. > I would love to get into the = special effects you guys talk > about here, but the cost as well as the = vandalism > prevalent in our neighbourhood right now have convinced > me = that it might not be such a good idea. Understood. That's the very reason why I stopped several years ago. From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Fri Aug 2 02:45:45 1996 Date: Thu, 1 Aug 96 15:18:56 EDT To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Bill Lewis Subject: Re: Halloween 'Soft-toy' -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: At 01:05 PM 7/31/96 -0600, you wrote: >These people with nasty intel machines are just jealous. Yes, you're absolutely correct, I am totally jealous that there is a "haunted ride program" availible for a Mac. I am not jealous that I don't have a Mac, and that I can live with.... quite easily. Bill Lewis NSWC Carderock Division Code 6060 (301) 227-2742 lewisw@oasys.dt.navy.mil lewisb@erols.com From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Fri Aug 2 13:19:49 1996 Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 21:38:48 -0700 (PDT) To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: MilesManor Subject: Glow in the dark floss Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: I have seen the glow in the dark thread at cross stitch shops. Are there any in your area? There is a pretty good one in Sacramento. __________________________ |\/\/\/\/\/| Lynne Miles \0 0 0 0 / qoe@sna.com |~~~~~~| Orangvale, CA From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Fri Aug 2 14:06:04 1996 Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 21:44:44 -0700 (PDT) To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: MilesManor Subject: Re: Halloween crafts -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: At 10:03 AM 8/1/96 -0600, you wrote: >I bought a spider ring and bracelet 2 years ago at the >Maryland Renaissance Festival--the bracelet is a spider that >clings to your wrist... > Oooh I think I need a spider bracelet! That sounds like a lot of fun. Just what I need as if my friends don't think I am already a little strange. __________________________ |\/\/\/\/\/| Lynne Miles \0 0 0 0 / qoe@sna.com |~~~~~~| Orangvale, CA From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Fri Aug 2 19:17:24 1996 From: Gregory Edwards Subject: Re: Regional Get-Together? To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 05:36:59 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: My family might be (date dependent). We are in Half Moon Bay, but we both went to UCD. Or we could have a e could have a beach party (can't do it at our house as we are having major repairs/upgrades done -- dry/wet rot). Greg Edwards edwards@crl.com > > I was wondering how many of you are geograpically close to me and if there > would be interest in getting together sometime just to talk about horror > effects, share pictures, videos and ideas (and maybe some food and drink)? > I'm in Dixon (near Davis near Sacramento). Who all is in the Northern > Central Valley/SF Bay Area? I've got a big backyard and pool (as > enticement) and would be willing to host a barbque get together for > Northern California horror enthusiasts? Just a thought. Anyone > interested? > > Richard Hill > Computer Operations Manager Office Phone: (916) 757-3002 > UCD Bookstore FAX: (916) 757-3010 > UC Davis E-Mail: rrhill@ucdavis.edu > From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Fri Aug 2 19:52:15 1996 Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 09:45:06 -0700 (PDT) To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: MilesManor Subject: Re: Halloween crafts Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Lauren, Thanks for all the great info on the cross stitch. I'll be out looking it. Lynne From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Fri Aug 2 22:28:57 1996 Date: Fri, 02 Aug 1996 04:15:05 -0700 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Regional Get-Together? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Richard, As you know I live in your area, and I know of a few more that do. We have a friend here that has been talking about starting some sort of support group for Halloween sickos...that's us!!! What a great idea to get everyone together to match notes. Let me know how the plans go. Kathy the new kid on the crypt From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Fri Aug 2 22:45:32 1996 Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 00:05:15 +0200 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: melanie@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Melanie Laege) Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?I=B4m?= new!!! Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Hi guys, my name is Melanie and I=B4m new on your list (obviously). I=B4m from Berlin= , Germany and planing a halloween party this year with a friend of mine. I went to a german-american school and know all about halloween, in my eyes thats the coolest holiday. Unfortunatly the Germans don=B4t know much about it and it=B4s real hard to get halloween inspirations. So guys I totally depend on you for recepies, decoration ideas and much more. I=B4d be thankfull for all information I can get!!!!!!!!!! Thanks, Mel __________________________________________________________ Melanie Laege, Informationswissenschaft, Freie Universitaet Berlin melanie@fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Sat Aug 3 00:31:18 1996 Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 10:08:43 -0700 (PDT) To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: MilesManor Subject: Re: Halloween crafts Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Kathy, I'll have to look around and see if I can find an example of the macrame spider web. If I have an example I can usually make something without the instructions. My husband and I go to the Northern Faire also. We belong to a guild and so yes we do play there. It is a lot of fun. We started out as mundanes and then made some quick costumes and finally jumped in with both feet and joined a guild. Our costumes by the way make great Halloween costumes in a pinch. A little blood here, pair of teeth there and voila instant vampire. __________________________ |\/\/\/\/\/| Lynne Miles \0 0 0 0 / qoe@sna.com |~~~~~~| Orangvale, CA From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Sat Aug 3 00:51:25 1996 From: Davis_Karen To: halloween-l Subject: FW: sanity Date: Fri, 02 Aug 96 17:32:00 EDT Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: ...i used to do so much for christmas, and then when it was christmas day, i felt such a let down...and i finally realized why...i used to do all the buying, wrapping, cards, cooking, baking, cleaning, decorating, etc., and tell myself that i was doing it for my kids and husband...finally i realized that they couldn't have cared less about the whole thing and that that was why i felt badly...unappreciated...so after i thought about that for awhile, i realized that i was really doing all this stuff for my self-satisfaction and if i was doing anything that i got no joy or pleasure out of, i would quit doing it...and i did, and now i don't get that 'let-down, nobody really cares...is it over already?' feeling... ...i shop all year round, picking up stuff for the folks on my list as i see things that i think they would like...store it in the basement, and then in early december start bringing several things up and wrapping them at night while watching tv...spending all of one day or weekend wrapping stuff don't happen anymore...(besides, i'm handicapped, and cannot stand anymore, so have to wrap stuff sitting on the couch...which leaves little room to do more than a few each night)...and also, that way i can spread the expense over the whole year.... ...i put my cards and address book in a small tote bag and take it with me when i go to the doctor's or other appts and address them while i wait...and try to finish them up over the thanksgiving weekend, whenever i have a few minutes free...while watching tv, etc....then i usually wait til about the second week of dec. to send them... ...i do most of the prep work for xmas dinner early in the day xmas eve...that way i just spend a little time putting the bird in early xmas day, and about half an hour to an hour fixing the rest of dinner... ...i take three days off work (a mon, tues, and wed, usually...i hate going in on mondays anyway, so this works for me), usually about the first or second week of dec., and bake...i mix up all the doughs for refrigerator cookies first, so they can chill overnight...then brownines and bar/pan cookies...then drop cookies...then the chilled roll-out cookies...which i decorate sitting at a card table watching tv...btw, i start picking up ingredients for baking throughout the year as i catch them on sale... ...i usually set up the tree about the second weekend in dec...and put the lights on...when my kids were home, they then put the ornaments on it,...then for a couple of years, my neice and a friend of hers did the ornaments...the last few years, i've invited a couple of friends over, have my brother set up the tree and put on the lights the day before they come, and he and they do the ornaments...then someone goes out for a pizza, and we mini-party on the xmas cookies... ...as for cleaning,..i pick-up, dust and vacuum...i finally realized that when you get a bunch of people together opening gifts, nobody really cares or notices as long as its not cluttered and dusted and vacuumed... ...and now, i can enjoy christmas too...and feel so bummed or burned out... karend From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Sat Aug 3 00:58:48 1996 Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 12:49:21 -0700 (PDT) To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: "David \"HOMER\" Simpson (or one of the Clan)" Subject: Re: Halloween 'Soft-toy' -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: At 03:18 PM 08/01/96 EDT, you wrote: >At 01:05 PM 7/31/96 -0600, you wrote: >>These people with nasty intel machines are just jealous. > >Yes, you're absolutely correct, I am totally jealous that there is a >"haunted ride program" availible for a Mac. I am not jealous that I don't >have a Mac, and that I can live with.... quite easily. >Bill Lewis I'm a slave to Lord Gates, but isn't there some kind of mac emulator or something that I could use? Just curious?? --Jason From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Sat Aug 3 01:33:25 1996 From: Davis_Karen To: halloween-l , xmas-l Subject: test Date: Fri, 02 Aug 96 15:18:00 EDT Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: our server was down this morning for about 1 1/2 hours...i have not received any mail since then...this is a test to see if i.m still subbed to these lists...thanks, karend From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Sat Aug 3 01:48:34 1996 From: Davis_Karen To: halloween-l , listserv-ghostletters , xmas-l , choco , "'owner-x-files'" , "'owner-vulcan-l'" , "'strek-l-list'" Date: Fri, 02 Aug 96 15:32:00 EDT Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: subscribe From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Sat Aug 3 02:01:12 1996 Date: Fri, 02 Aug 1996 13:50:54 -0700 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Halloween crafts -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Lynne, The first year my neighbors thought I was nuts, the second year they thought I was strange, the third year they thought I was nuts...This year they all want to play a body. I should have tried putting them all in a trance earlier :))) Kathy you are getting sleepy..... From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Sat Aug 3 02:07:20 1996 From: Davis_Karen To: halloween-l Subject: FW: Halloween crafts Date: Fri, 02 Aug 96 14:49:00 EDT Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: >It was just something I cooked up years ago with large >Nestle's Quik cans sprayed black with faces carved out with >two sheets of orange tissue behind the features. I wanted to >have little faces glowing in a dark corner and from under >bushes. ...put your cans on either side of the sidewalk (and maybe the steps) at uneven intervals.... using none, one or two bricks painted black under some of them...in the dark people will not be able to see the bricks and the lanterns will appear to be floating on different levels...karend From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Sat Aug 3 02:29:26 1996 From: Davis_Karen To: halloween-l , xmas-l , choco , "'owner-vulcan-l'" , "'strek-l-list'" Subject: FW: Date: Fri, 02 Aug 96 15:59:00 EDT Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: subscribe strek-l subscribe vulcan-l subscribe id4 subscribe choco subscribe halloween-l subscribe xmas-l From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Sat Aug 3 05:12:56 1996 Date: Fri, 02 Aug 1996 20:47:33 -0500 From: Jason R To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: [HAL] Fog Machine Question Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Got my hands on a JEM model a week ago.. Boy does it PUMP IT OUT!.. Of couse, getting fluid for it is a bit trying.. Had to order it from out of state!.. But, when you do have the fluid.. Oh boy, look out!. Jay PS.Make sure, you get a 30 day warenty on that used fogger, plus ask to see it in action too. If you hear any werid soundings, like a grinding noise that would indicate the pump is drawing in alot of air and no fluid be careful. If your getting it from a big rental house that is updated it's stock {Good deals can be found}, than you dont have to really worry, they take care of most of there stuff -- Jason R Member FDC {Beach Club lighting tech} VRC Homepage, Use it to find out ALL your Disney info needs. --Http://www.vivanet.com/~thelazer -- "I told'em the truth, and they fell for it"-Harry Anderson. From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Sat Aug 3 05:56:43 1996 Date: Fri, 02 Aug 1996 21:28:25 -0700 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?I=B4m?= new!!! Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Welcome Melanie, Tell us where you want to start and trust me you will have more help than you ever thought possible. For your party have you a theme or general ghoul will do??? I have many catalogs and brochures from all sorts of companies that I am sure you can also get. Give us a idea what you want to do, and I am sure the folks here will come crawling from behind their tombstones. Kathy the new kid on the crypt From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Sat Aug 3 09:43:24 1996 Date: Sat, 03 Aug 1996 01:09:43 -0400 From: "Allan J. Clifford" To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Halloween 'Soft-toy' -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Bill Lewis wrote: > > At 01:05 PM 7/31/96 -0600, you wrote: > >These people with nasty intel machines are just jealous. > > Yes, you're absolutely correct, I am totally jealous that there is a > "haunted ride program" availible for a Mac. I am not jealous that I don't > have a Mac, and that I can live with.... quite easily. > Bill Lewis > NSWC Carderock Division > Code 6060 > (301) 227-2742 > lewisw@oasys.dt.navy.mil > lewisb@erols.com I missed the post on the software program (I just recently joined the Halloween-l) so could someone post the info again. Thanks! Allan From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Sat Aug 3 15:29:28 1996 Date: Sat, 03 Aug 1996 07:09:42 -0700 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Halloween crafts Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Lynne, Good weekend to you. Which guild do you belong to? My daughter has been dying to join a guild. She does not know how to go about it, and the faire is much to busy of a time to ask anyone. We were so glad to hear it was going to stay close to us. We are already saving our pennies to shop,shop, and shop. We need certain things for our Halloween theme and we know that we can find them at the faire. The kids just love it, they say that it is like being there. I made them all coustumes last year and took 2 nieces and 2 of their friends and we all had a wonderful time. I wonder if anyone has ever thought of a "school day" at the faire. Like a half day on Friday, I know hard when people work, where the schools can bring in groups to play and eat and learn. As for the spider web, I am going to lay down the thread from the center out and stake it on my lawn. Like a big pin board. \ / \ / \ / O - is center \/ lines are macarame string ------------O- - - - - - - / \ / \ / \ / \ \ I think I am going to use a brass ring in the center to tie to. I am not good a graphics as you can tell, but I plan on running the string from line to line and doing a simple knot at each line. I just bought all the macrame string at Ben Franklins Crafts on sale at 60% off. I bought a creme colored string. It will be trial and error. I took the idea off a photo on the Archive page. Someone had it tied on their porch. It looked great. Looking forward to hearing more from you. Kathy From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Sat Aug 3 22:49:43 1996 From: DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu Date: Sat, 03 Aug 1996 14:01:05 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Halloween 'Soft-toy' -Reply To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: >I'm a slave to Lord Gates, but isn't there some kind of mac emulator or >something that I could use? Just curious?? Jason, I don't know if anyone makes a hyperCard emulator for intel platforms, but if one exists, it would do the job. Anyone know? -Doug ****************************************** * Safety, Courtesy, Show and Efficiency: * * The Keys To The Kingdom * * Doug Ferguson * * dwfww@jazz.ucc.uno.edu * ****************************************** From owner-halloween-l@netcom.com Sat Aug 3 22:59:51 1996 From: DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu Date: Sat, 03 Aug 1996 13:58:43 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Halloween 'Soft-toy' -Reply To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: >I missed the post on the software program (I just recently joined the >Halloween-l) so could someone post the info again. Allan, It's a Macintosh HyperCard stack (requires HyperCard 2.0 or later to run) dark ride simulator called "Dark Ride Construction Set." It lets you program visual sequences and create your own dark ride on screen. Even has sound effects in some sequences. If you have the requisite platform, I will be glad to send you a binhex copy via e-mail. -Doug ****************************************** * Safety, Courtesy, Show and Efficiency: * * The Keys To The Kingdom * * Doug Ferguson * * dwfww@jazz.ucc.uno.edu *