From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Getting in the Mood -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: I don't want to ruin it for you... From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Aug 23 05:43:03 1996 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 06:40:33 -0600 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Getting in the Mood -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Do you really want me to spoil the ending of "Trick-or-Treat" for you? If so, I will... From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Aug 23 05:47:10 1996 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 96 07:46:40 CDT From: jeffh@oakhill-csic.sps.mot.com (Jeff Hunsinger) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Goblin Greeter Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: > The article in Popular Electronics says to use "interior storm-window > material available from most hardware stores" sized for "picture windows or > sliding glass doors". I used to use this stuff when I lived up North. 3M is probably the most common manufacturer. It can get quite tight when shrunk, though I think a small PVC frame wouldn't have any problems. A large one would probably become distorted. Regarding Kathy's question on Glow-In-The-Dark materials: radioactive materials haven't been used in many, many years. You've probably heard the story about the people who used to paint watch hands with radium and developed cancer from licking the brushes (they did this to maintain a fine tip). I was a little concerned myself since I have a glow-in-the-dark keychain and was a bit concerned about nuking myself while carrying my keys in my pocket (I've done enough chromosome damage in the past; I don't need any more). These days, glow items use phosphorescent materials. I'm not an expert on this, so I'll defer the question of exactly which materials are used to someone more knowledgable. Jeff From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Aug 23 06:17:48 1996 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 96 09:14:35 EDT To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Bill Lewis Subject: "The Sign" continued... Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: At 07:22 PM 8/22/96 -0600, you wrote: > >>Would some sort of relay switch work in this situation? > >If you used the rotisserie motor, here's a really dirt cheap solution: > >Make a couple of improvised cams on the shaft using duct tape lumps. >Have these cams depress the levers on a couple of microswitches in >an alternating fashion. Reshape the duct tape wads with more tape >until the durations are as you desire. Not a bad solution, but the Micro's would have to be able to handle the power, otherwise introduce some relay's. Actually I got the inspiration from a similar motor switching device used to alternately flash the highbeam headlights on a police car. So all you have to do is get a friend with a box of doughnuts, and ... >Then, just make sure you don't show it to an engineer! :-) Who say's (us) engineers don't use (alot of) duck tape!? Bill Lewis NSWC Carderock Division Code 6060 (301) 227-2742 lewisw@oasys.dt.navy.mil lewisb@erols.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Aug 23 06:36:57 1996 Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 14:43:22 -0700 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Getting in the Mood -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Lauren, I want to know, PLEASE!!!! Kathy sitting on the edge of the crypt From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Aug 23 06:37:02 1996 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 96 09:17:43 EDT To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Bill Lewis Subject: Re: The 'Grave Jumper' Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: At 01:39 AM 8/23/96 -0600, you wrote: > >As promised, the beta-version of this mechanical effect is done. >If you'd like the jpgs, e-mail me. Yes, please send me them! In fact, just put me on the automatic request for photos for anyone who has them. Thanks Bill Lewis NSWC Carderock Division Code 6060 (301) 227-2742 lewisw@oasys.dt.navy.mil lewisb@erols.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Aug 23 07:03:33 1996 Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 15:02:38 -0700 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Jack Skelington!! Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Jacqui, I love your idea about the tree!! Don't forget the big snake ( rubber of course) around the bottom of the tree!! As for Jack Skelington I made that costume last year for a friends son and it was easy,once we worked out how to do it. I took a old basketball and wrapped it with the plaster tape that they use for broken arms etc. We bought it at the craft store and paid to much, we were told to buy it at medical supply places much cheaper. Once it was dry I cut it from the top to the bottom on one side only, and slowly pulled it off the ball. Almost forgot, wrap the ball in plastic wrap so it does not stick to the texured ball!!! Then I bought some of the material that looks black but when you look through it you can see clearly and I did the eyes and nose, use black marker around them to make defined areas. The mouth was the stiched closed mouth and I used fabric paints in a shiny black and just squeezed on a mouth. I found a young boy suit pattern in the wedding section and just added the tails. The hard part was finding the striped material!! As for the bat tie we freeze framed the video when the bat tie was it fullest on the screen and traced it. Then we used that for the pattern. Then I bought a cheap plastic bat and cut off its head and sewed it into the bat tie. I soaked the whole thing in Fabric Stiffener and let it dry on wax paper. It came out great! Since you are using a Christmas tree to make it easier just find a childs santa costume and put it on a frame work with his head and some plastic skeleton hands. Happy Hauntings Kathy the new kid on the crypt From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Aug 23 07:31:26 1996 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 96 10:30:22 EDT To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Bill Lewis Subject: Re: Delurking (BATner, oops I mean Banter) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: At 09:08 PM 8/19/96 PST, you wrote: >I have a 1910 Craftsman-style house (no not Sears Craftsman!) Don't be so sure about that, Sears used to sell mail order Craftsman style houses. I'm not kidding! Delivered to your local train depot, in kit form. Don't remember the exact era. 1910 might be correct. Bill Lewis NSWC Carderock Division Code 6060 (301) 227-2742 lewisw@oasys.dt.navy.mil lewisb@erols.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Aug 23 07:52:41 1996 From: skoelke@metronet.com To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 09:52:56 +0000 Subject: question Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: I am assuming that along with the decoration there are people who still give out candy/something to the little 'uns. Does anyone have andy Ideas ..anything unique that you have given/ will give htat is not to expensive that would apeal to all ages? I would love to bake cookies but now days that just isnt worth the trouble and not safe. Generally we order from Oriental Trade catalog however, I did not see anything this year that appeals to me. I really dont want to get candy and the toys they have are (cheap looking( I guess You get what you pay for ) and they are unsafe for the real young ones that go out. can anyone help with the delema this year?? Sue skoelke@metronet.com smiles are worth millions. :):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):) http://www.metronet.com/~skoelke/ From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Aug 23 08:08:56 1996 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 08:21:37 -0600 From: Lauren Jones To: balderston@aol.com, Mikabusky@aol.com, hsmith@aphis.usda.gov, regis@ccgate.kastle.com, phoenix@erols.com, gregory_baker@fforum.blkcat.com, chrisbal@gol.com, chers@ix.netcom.com, logant@LAN-EMAIL.PEOCU.NAVY.MIL, ronald_mcclendon_at_2al~main@mail.fws.gov, morgan58@netaxs.com, halloween-l@netcom.com, davisk@po1.ipp.bls.gov, ckelley@usuhsb.usuhs.mil, kkr@vais.net, pguion@vt.edu, koch@wam.umd.edu Subject: Scientific Experiments Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: For the pyromanical among us: http://www.sci.tamucc.edu/~pmichaud/toast/ From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Aug 23 08:09:18 1996 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 08:07:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Bertino To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Delurking (BATner, oops I mean Banter) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: On Fri, 23 Aug 1996, Bill Lewis wrote: > At 09:08 PM 8/19/96 PST, you wrote: > > >I have a 1910 Craftsman-style house (no not Sears Craftsman!) > > Don't be so sure about that, Sears used to sell mail order Craftsman style > houses. > I'm not kidding! > Delivered to your local train depot, in kit form. Don't remember the exact > era. 1910 might be correct. 'tis true. This was still done in the 20's and 30's. This was the era before tract homes. Since we are off the beaten path, I found a guy who uses PVC and painted canvus to turn his house into a castle for halloween. I'm trying to check up with him and get some plans and ideas. Sounds like fun! don bertino@netcom.com ____/^\_____________________________________ Disney ascii art & / \ || FDC MCP || / \ animations are at <______\ [] [] [] || [] [] [] || [] [] [] /______> http://www.calweb.com \----------------||----------||----------------/=== /~bertino===============\______________||__________||______________/===== From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Aug 23 08:10:10 1996 From: skoelke@metronet.com To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 10:10:00 +0000 Subject: Re: Getting in the Mood Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: I want to know...Does anyone else put up a halloween tree? I painted a large branch black last year and brought it in to the house and hung my ornaments. I would like to start the tradition of giving each of my children a halloween orniment every year( I Just dont know where to find a baby's first Halloween ) I guess Ill have to make one!! I would like to find large halloween orniments all I have are small to small for mey Two year old to play with ! She has the halloween nesting Dolls alerady from last year! Sue skoelke@metronet.com smiles are worth millions. :):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):) http://www.metronet.com/~skoelke/ From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Aug 23 08:29:18 1996 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 96 11:25:31 EST From: Stuart McIntire To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re[2]: Delurking (BATner, oops I mean Banter) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: >>I have a 1910 Craftsman-style house (no not Sears Craftsman!) >Don't be so sure about that, Sears used to sell mail order Craftsman style >houses. >I'm not kidding! >Delivered to your local train depot, in kit form. Don't remember the exact >era. 1910 might be correct. I'm not sure when they started, but I believe the Sears houses were being shipped and built at least through the 20s or 30s. The Sears houses have a "look." You can usually tell if it's a Sears house by the design, and if you know the approximate age of the house - and it's early 1900s - it's probably from Sears. I remember reading about the ones which still exist in the DC area. Most people were surprised the houses they live in were mail-order. But they are very solid and very well built. Wouldn't mind owning one myself...except I think they're too small for my needs. - Stu stuart.mcintire@uage.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Aug 23 08:40:22 1996 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 08:36:50 -0700 From: rothe@edsug.com (Bill Rothe - Tekware sys mgr) Subject: Re: Jack Skelington!! To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: About Jack Skellington: I saw a video of a rather nice Jack done in a Halloween Parade last year. They had made a Jack about 15' tall, and he was essentially a large rod puppet, operated by a guy in a black suit & facemask (ala the 'stage ninja' suits common to scifi conventions). Jack's feet were attached with black rods to the operator's ankles, same with his hands. The body's waist was attached to the operator's shoulders by rods. The operator moved the figure around by manuevering the hand rods and turning/dipping his body. It was nighttime (and not a great video), so I really couldn't get a good look at how it was made, seeing as how it was made of all flat black materials... I'd think the body/legs/head would have to be *very* light, as otherwise you'd lose the operator about halfway down the parade route...;) And yet heavy enough to make the movements look good. Also, the size of the operator didn't make him look like he was a weightlifter..... The whole figure moved rather eerily down the street, as it would turn, reach its arms out and dip towards poeple on the curbs... Because of the height and the foot rods, it sort of lurched down the street, quite a bit like the way Jack moved in the animated film. All in all, it was a great effect for a Halloween Parade.... Any ideas for other versions of this?? Reapers?? Skeletons, obviously.... Godzilla? P.S. they didn't actually call him "Jack Skellington" by name, probably to avoid any troubles with the lawyermonsters.... -bill. -- <*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*>| | rothe@ug.eds.com ** Opinions stated here are not those of EDS ** | <*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*>| From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Aug 23 08:51:50 1996 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 08:14:29 -0600 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Getting in the Mood--The End Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: I didn't think there would be so much interest! Here's the whole synopsis: =============================== Tales From the Darkside had an episode called "Trick-or-Treat" that was really wonderful. The mean old guy owns the valley, and all of the farmers are in debt to him. On Halloween every year, he sets up his house as a haunt and invites all of his debtors to send their children to his house. If they can find the stack of IOUs in his house, their debts to him will be ended. Of course, the mean old guy terrifies the kids every year, and no one has ever found the IOUs, until... ...the real monsters show up. Old Mean Mr. Hackle is visited by a real witch, real devil, etc., and is never seen again. The new family in the valley, who would not allow their son to be terrorized, doesn't see their son sneak out of the house on his own to help his parents, and he's the happy recipient of the IOUs, tossed down by the witch as she flies out of the house in the final scene. It's really a great show--suitable for watching with your kids. Once scene seems to be headed one way, then turns around: a father sends his son into Mr. Hackle's house with a "you'll find those IOUs if you know what's good for you" kind of attitude. The poor kid tries, but Hackle's SPFX are too much for him. He comes out of the house, expecting to be walloped for failing, and instead, the father hugs him, picks him up, and carries him away. My copy of this episode got mixed up with some friends' stuff several years ago and taken with them to Florida; I'm going to have to try to chase it down again! From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Aug 23 09:03:52 1996 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 08:58:45 -0700 (PDT) To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Rick Hill Subject: Re: [HAL] Halloween Clip Art, etc. Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Is it possible to get the clip art from you? Iwould be interested. >I collect clip art, and over the past couple years have amassed quite a >collection of public domai (i.e., non-copyrighted) Halloween and >appropriate-for-Halloween clips. Also, I have downloaded Halloween bitmaps >to serve as Windows wallpaper, as well as codes for Halloween color schemes. >Do any of you have any such Halloween type computer stuff? Yes, including >screen savers (public domain only, of course - let's not indulge in software >piracy!) > >- Freya E. Harris >ATLANTA, GEORGIA: >Winner of the 1995 World Series > AND >of the 1996 Olympic Games Richard Hill Computer Operations Manager Office Phone: (916) 757-3002 UCD Bookstore FAX: (916) 757-3010 UC Davis E-Mail: rrhill@ucdavis.edu From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Aug 23 09:11:04 1996 From: Jacqui Young To: "halloween-l@netcom.com" , "'Michael Marcrum'" Subject: RE: Jack Skelington!! Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 12:10:54 -0400 Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: ---------- From: Michael Marcrum[SMTP:mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Thursday, August 22, 1996 6:03 PM To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Jack Skelington!! Jacqui, I love your idea about the tree!! Don't forget the big snake ( rubber of course) around the bottom of the tree!! As for Jack Skelington I made that costume last year for a friends son and it was easy,once we worked out how to do it. I took a old basketball and wrapped it with the plaster tape that they use for broken arms etc. We bought it at the craft store and paid to much, we were told to buy it at medical supply places much cheaper. Once it was dry I cut it from the top to the bottom on one side only, and slowly pulled it off the ball. Almost forgot, wrap the ball in plastic wrap so it does not stick to the texured ball!!! Then I bought some of the material that looks black but when you look through it you can see clearly and I did the eyes and nose, use black marker around them to make defined areas. The mouth was the stiched closed mouth and I used fabric paints in a shiny black and just squeezed on a mouth. I found a young boy suit pattern in the wedding section and just added the tails. The hard part was finding the striped material!! As for the bat tie we freeze framed the video when the bat tie was it fullest on the screen and traced it. Then we used that for the pattern. Then I bought a cheap plastic bat and cut off its head and sewed it into the bat tie. I soaked the whole thing in Fabric Stiffener and let it dry on wax paper. It came out great! Since you are using a Christmas tree to make it easier just find a childs santa costume and put it on a frame work with his head and some plastic skeleton hands. Happy Hauntings Kathy the new kid on the crypt Super idea, because of course I already have the Santa costume!!! Thank Kath From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Aug 23 09:11:06 1996 From: Jacqui Young To: "halloween-l@netcom.com" , "'Lauren Jones'" Subject: RE: Getting in the Mood -Reply Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 12:07:14 -0400 Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: ---------- From: Lauren Jones[SMTP:ljones@aphis.usda.gov] Sent: Friday, August 23, 1996 8:41 AM To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Getting in the Mood -Reply Do you really want me to spoil the ending of "Trick-or-Treat" for you? If so, I will... Please! Pretty Please! From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Aug 23 09:13:20 1996 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 96 12:14:22 EST From: Stuart McIntire To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: question Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: >Does anyone have andy Ideas ..anything unique that you have >given/ will give htat is not to expensive that would apeal to all >ages? Comic books. I know Marvel Comics has in the past bundled comics for sales through comic book shops specifically for this purpose. You might want to ask the manager of a comic shop near you. If you don't know of one, try the Yellow Pages. If that doesn't work, get back with me and I'll try to lo- cate one in your area. An hourly clerk might not know. If the manager puts you off, or you don't think you're getting a straight answer, try another store - or again, get in touch with me. - Stu stuart.mcintire@uage.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Aug 23 09:21:29 1996 From: Jacqui Young To: "halloween-l@netcom.com" , "'skoelke@metronet.com'" Subject: RE: Getting in the Mood Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 12:17:41 -0400 Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Sue What are Halloween nesting Dolls and where can you get them Please and = Thank You. And of course as I posted I am doing a Halloween tree this year. I've = had a small one indoors for about three years now, but the ornaments are = quite small so not much use to you. Thanks again Jacqui From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Aug 23 09:57:00 1996 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 12:50:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Domina To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Jack Skelington!! Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Speaking of Nightmare, does anyone know where I can buy a copy of the movie? Has it been pulled from the shelves? Domina | / | \ The full moon, like a spider, lets down her light that / / | \ \ covers the earth, as with a web, and there we mortals \ \_(*)_/ / helplessly struggle, we flies of fate, until the \_(~:~)_/ night devours each one of us.... /-(:)-\ The masquerade is never over... @}>--'--,--- / / * \ \ Listowner: Mortuary Mailing List \ \ / / Coven Mauling List \ / Domina http://pegasus.cc.ucf.edu/~wmg47005/ From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Aug 23 09:57:09 1996 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 96 12:42:11 EST From: Stuart McIntire To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: [HAL] Halloween Clip Art, etc. Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Freya, >Do any of you have any such Halloween type computer stuff? Halloween fonts on Don Bertino's web page... - Stu stuart.mcintire@uage.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Aug 23 10:18:14 1996 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 96 13:10:44 EDT To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Bill Lewis Subject: Re: Getting in the Mood--The End (Babble) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: At 08:14 AM 8/23/96 -0600, you wrote: >I didn't think there would be so much interest! Here's >the whole synopsis: >=============================== >Tales From the Darkside had an episode called >"Trick-or-Treat" that was really wonderful. oOh, Tell us another one! We want another Stooory! (Can you tell I don't get cable) How about watching episodes of the Addams Family... Or better yet, get a hold of a reprint collection of the original Charles Addams (New Yorker, the mag) Cartoons. I have an old original book (somewhere). It's a real favourite of mine. (Can you tell it's Friday) Later, The somewhat less than lurking Lewis Bill From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Aug 23 10:24:40 1996 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 13:14:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Lund To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: [HAL] Working with styrofoam Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: I purchased my 2x8' by 2 in thick white styrofoam from Home Depot, the very next day I was back in there and they were moving pallets of Owens Corning Extruded Polystyrene Insulation foamular 250. It is pink, but is very strong and cuts easily with saw or knife. I took back the white stuff and bought 1 sheet of the pink stuff. It takes latex paint very good and you can really carve it very nicely. About $9 and change for 2x8x2 sheet. Almost twice as much as the white, but I think it will be worth it in the end. Larry _ ___c Lawrence H. Lund \ _| \_ 179 Studley Street __\_| oooo \_____ Brentwood, NY 11717 ~~~~|______________/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ E-mail: llund@suffolk.lib.ny.us llund179@aol.com Phone: (516)-231-8790 Fax: (516)-434-9315 From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Aug 23 10:24:58 1996 From: skoelke@metronet.com To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 12:15:29 +0000 Subject: RE: Getting in the Mood Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Jacqui, I got the nesting dolls from Oriental Trade catalog last year. this is a really cool and sort of cheap Halloween source for us. (Oriental trading company 1-800-228-2269. they have a specific catalog for halloween this year "halloween #137B" I have just tiny orniments too I guess I was just hoping there were some out there that someone knew of that were bigger. guess Ill make the baby's first christmas one! The nesting dolls are from largest to smallest (each firring in the other) Frankenstine, the werewolf,Draclua, a mummy.adn a pumpkin as the final. It is on page 62 in this book and they are 6.00$ a set I see they have nesting witches too this year..there is so much neat stuff in here I just can not describe it all! Guess Ill get some of the plush toys and put loops on( larger than what i have ...I got my orniments here too) for my tree..WHa can i say I just like doing things BIG!! Sue! ask my hubby about my wedding dress!! LOL skoelke@metronet.com smiles are worth millions. :):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):) http://www.metronet.com/~skoelke/ From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Aug 23 10:41:52 1996 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 11:35:08 -0600 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Getting in the Mood--The End, etc. Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Bill Lewis writes: >>the whole synopsis: >>=============================== >>Tales From the Darkside had an episode called >>"Trick-or-Treat" that was really wonderful. >oOh, Tell us another one! We want another Stooory! Don't get me started. I've been threatening to write a kids book for years (no Goosebumps--something mystical and spooky) > Or better yet, get a hold of a reprint collection of the > original Charles Addams (New Yorker, the mag) > Cartoons. I have an old original book (somewhere). > It's a real favourite of mine. I've been a fan since I was 3 years old! I kid you not! My sister's husband hid his Monster Rally and Homebodies from me when I found them on the shelves of their apartment. I now have my own copies plus a few more from used book shops...cool! From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Aug 23 10:48:55 1996 From: dbell@cup.portal.com To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Halloween Trees Date: Fri, 23 Aug 96 10:39:45 PDT Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Sue Koelke asked if anyone else puts up a Halloween tree. We're going to do that for the first time, this year! I had saved our Christmas tree from last year, figured with all the needles shaken off, and some black paint we'd be in good shape. Unfortunately, the guy who does our yard maintenance a couple times a month found it in the side yard, whacked off all the branches, and stuffed them in the yard-waste bin. Now all I have is the trunk! :{( So, we're looking for another wasted old snag for a tree... Expect to do something between Jack's tree, and the one from Bradbury's "The Halloween Tree". This year, it will most likely be inside, but I *am* thinking more and more about a whole "Nightmare" yard, after all the great ideas here! Dave dbell@cup.portal.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Aug 23 11:09:37 1996 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 10:37:56 -0600 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: question -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: About homemade stuff... Why not? Put it in those little Halloween bags with a "business card" especially made for the occasion. Someone who is going to poison kids is not going to give out their name, address, and phone number, so to speak. Also, you can ask attending parents if it's okay. How about including the recipe? Uh, oh...my brain is working...wouldn't it be cool if kids made up their own, computer-printed thank you cards to carry around to present to the people who give them candy? Something with a Halloween theme that they cooked up themselves? I'm going to suggest this to a friend with small children... From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Aug 23 11:26:34 1996 From: Jacqui Young To: "halloween-l@netcom.com" , "'Domina'" Subject: RE: Jack Skelington!! Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 14:24:53 -0400 Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: ---------- From: Domina[SMTP:wmg47005@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu] Sent: Friday, August 23, 1996 8:51 AM To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Jack Skelington!! Speaking of Nightmare, does anyone know where I can buy a copy of the movie? Has it been pulled from the shelves? Domina I can't imagine they'd have pulled it off the shelves, I'll check but then again I'm in Canada which may not count. Jacqui | / | \ The full moon, like a spider, lets down her light that / / | \ \ covers the earth, as with a web, and there we mortals \ \_(*)_/ / helplessly struggle, we flies of fate, until the \_(~:~)_/ night devours each one of us.... /-(:)-\ The masquerade is never over... @}>--'--,--- / / * \ \ Listowner: Mortuary Mailing List \ \ / / Coven Mauling List \ / Domina http://pegasus.cc.ucf.edu/~wmg47005/ From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Aug 23 11:40:31 1996 From: Jacqui Young To: "halloween-l@netcom.com" , "'Lauren Jones'" Subject: RE: question -Reply Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 14:35:09 -0400 Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: About homemade stuff... Why not? Put it in those little Halloween bags with a "business card" especially made for the occasion.=20 Someone who is going to poison kids is not going to give out their name, address, and phone number, so to speak. Also, you can ask attending parents if it's okay. How about including the recipe? Sounds like a great idea, I could even print them up on the PC with = lovely little pumpkins!! Now you guys are getting me all worked up, I could be interested but not = involved with electronics, but crafts, costumes, treats and scary = stories, now I feel like a kid again. Uh, oh...my brain is working...wouldn't it be cool if kids made up their own, computer-printed thank you cards to carry around to present to the people who give them candy? Something with a Halloween theme that they cooked up themselves? I'm going to suggest this to a friend with small children... It would be nice but imagine the wait while each child came forward and = gave you his card. I'd love a business card from the kid who keep = totalling my pumpkins though. As for stories, I watch the Midnight Society with my kids. We've gotten = into the habit of having to come up with a really creepy story for = Halloween. After they finish trick or treating and get their PJ's on we = sit around the fireplace and try to terrorize each other. The girls and = I take the day after Halloween off each year, my poor husband drags his = butt in and complains about Halloween nuts. Jacqui jacqui.young@cciw.ca From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Aug 23 12:14:19 1996 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 12:13:13 +0100 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: makeup@earthlink.net (Tad Peters) Subject: Jack Skelington (Red Jack) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: > >Thanks for any help you can give me. > >Now if I could just get Jack Skelington to show up...hmmmm Jack Skelington (Red Jack) mask is available for sale at the web site below... it is expensive though, and you can only get it from A. Harlequin Costume & Magic. Tad Peters A. Harlequin Costume makeup@earthlink.net 9589 Foothill Blvd http://home.earthlink.net/~makeup Rancho Cucamonga, CA 91730 murphy_for_congress@desktop.tyrell.com (909) 948-2950 From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Aug 23 12:21:34 1996 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 12:30:55 -0600 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Halloween Tree Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: 08/23/96 08:15am writes: > I have just tiny orniments too I guess I was just > hoping there were some out there that someone > knew of that were bigger. guess Ill make the baby's > first christmas one! How about a bunch of silver stars and moons (around at Christmas time--after for 50%)? Cut some bats out of black poster board. And after Christmas, check out the spider-in-the-web decorations available. If you don't like white, spray 'em with clear sealer and sprinkle silver glitter on them. From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Aug 23 12:34:26 1996 From: sao@mit.edu To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Getting in the Mood Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 15:31:25 EDT Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: skoelke@metronet.com writes: >I got the nesting dolls from Oriental Trade catalog >last year. (Replying to the group, since I think this is of general interest:) YES! The Oriental Trading Company (of Omaha, Nebraska) is a wonderful source for cheap trinkets. In both senses of the word "cheap!" Their Halloween catalog is just out, and this one features an entire page of eyeball novelties! (I'm tempted to order one of the "Eyeball Assortment Packs", for only $14.95!) They always have a good selection of tacky seasonal novelties, at very good prices! You can reach the OTC at (800) 228-2269. Andy Oakland sao@mit.edu http://web.mit.edu/sao/www/home.html From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Aug 23 14:38:10 1996 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 96 17:33:09 EST From: Stuart McIntire To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Glow Webs Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: You can find glow webs at Spencer's by the bag. - Stu stuart.mcintire@uage.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Aug 23 15:57:43 1996 Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 18:53:45 -0400 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: "Freya E. Harris" Subject: Re: question Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: When I was a wee lassie my parents would make Halloween packages from several small items. Among the items we used: mini candy bars, Bazooka gum, lollipops, Hershey's kisses, mini peanut butter cups, and candy corn. Usually we included a non-edible item, such as a little plastic kazoo or a skill game where one has to get little metal balls to rest in holes (with a Halloween theme, of course), or a Halloween mini writing pad. Once my mom and I made popcorn balls. We wrapped them individually in plastic wrap before giving them out. If you want to do something healthful, try granola bars or bags of sunflower or (of course!) pumpkin seeds. Hope this helps. ATLANTA, GEORGIA: Winner of the 1995 World Series AND of the 1996 Olympic Games From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Aug 23 16:01:59 1996 Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 00:31:33 +0200 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Melanie Laege Subject: Halloween Fonts Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Hi guys, Im starting on my invatations for my Halloween Party and Im still looking for a "bloody" font. The ones I got from Don Bertinos page didnt all work on my Apple-Computer. Thanks for looking. Melanie __________________________________________________________ Melanie Laege, Informationswissenschaft, Freie Universitaet Berlin melanie@fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Aug 23 17:36:30 1996 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 96 17:33:30 -0700 (PDT) To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: bdosfx@wimsey.com (Brian D. Oberquell) Subject: Re: My Newest Project :) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: > I'm working on the the "gory" section of my haunted house, and thought I'd >do a tribute to my favorite horror movies. Everything's been going great, >with the exception of the Hellraiser room. This is where I need the help. I >love the scenes where hooks are stretching pieces of flesh. I was thinking >about using a technique called slush molding using liquid latex. Does this >sound like a good idea, and does anyone have any other ideas for this >stretching flesh? > If you want to stick with latex, some other options are painting latex into a negative rather than pouring it in, or painting latex over a positive (in either case, do it carefully to avoid brushmarks and soak your brush in liquid soap, scraping off the excess -- latex won't stick to the brush). You can use artist's acrylic paints mixed with rubber cement and diluted with cement thinner to paint your colours onto the pieces, or you can add the acrylic directly to the latex. One option isn't necessarily better than the other; a lot of it depends on how much time you have to make the effort. Are these pieces going to be attached to actors or are you making pierced body parts that will be just "hanging around?" Brian ______________________________________________________________________________ Brian D. Oberquell The Wizard's Den SPFX Studio 210 Cornell Way Port Moody, B.C. CANADA V3H 3W2 Phone (604) 931-6298 Pager (604) 895-3721 From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Aug 23 18:06:47 1996 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 20:59:26 -0400 (EDT) From: "Donna J. Logan" To: "Freya E. Harris" Subject: Re: question Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 22 Aug 1996, Freya E. Harris wrote: > Once my mom and I made popcorn balls. We wrapped them individually in > plastic wrap before giving them out. > > If you want to do something healthful, try granola bars or bags of sunflower > or (of course!) pumpkin seeds. Unfortunately, in this day and age every single parent I know who have "trick-or-treating" aged youngsters would automatically throw such items away, due to problems with drugs, poisons, and sharp objects being put into similar halloween "treats" in past years.... A good suggestion I read years ago suggested getting packages of pencils which are decorated with various designs (lasar holographic coverings, etc.) and toy eraser tops....one given to each child. When bought in bulk at business supply outlets, etc., these can be comparable to candy in price, and sometimes cheaper... ;-) From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Aug 23 18:52:03 1996 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 03:07:45 -0700 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Getting in the Mood Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Sue, I put up a branch of a Mansanita(sp) tree that is painted black, we have a skull on top that laughs when someone goes by, and a black wreath haning on it. We usually put red lights or red foil!! Yes the Halloween spirit does take in Christmas!! Kathy the new kid on the crypt mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Aug 23 19:13:36 1996 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 03:19:36 -0700 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Canvas house Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Don, Since we are trying to do something along these lines, I would be really interested in hearing what you find out. Kathy new kid on the crypt mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Aug 23 19:34:21 1996 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 22:21:18 -0400 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: kahnn@pa.net (Nathan Kahn) Subject: Re: Scientific Experiments Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: >For the pyromanical among us: > >http://www.sci.tamucc.edu/~pmichaud/toast/ This site is too cool! I can't believe its been there since 8/94. Thanks for bringing it to our attention. Nathan ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Nathan Kahn Home: kahnn@pa.net Work: nathan@theatrefx.com Work Web: http://www.theatrefx.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Aug 23 20:04:40 1996 Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 02:54:31 GMT To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Hi! From: fiberopt@usa.pipeline.com (Moon) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: I;m New And Love Halloween! -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Fiberopt@usa.pipeline.com "From 0 To Witch in 2.1 Secconds" http://inet-images.com/eq/home/index.htm -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Aug 23 20:57:28 1996 From: dbell@cup.portal.com To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Hi! Date: Fri, 23 Aug 96 20:43:06 PDT Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Welcome, Moon! The list is really hoppin' this year. It's a great place to be, if you love Halloween, as you say! Dave dbell@cup.portal.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Aug 23 21:14:06 1996 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 23:03:47 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Barry Wulfe Subject: Re: Halloween Fonts Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Melanie, you can get several Macintosh fonts at the Holloween List archieves, which are located at http://www.calweb.com/~bertino/halloween.html. Sanguinary is a good bloody font from the list. Also, if you have access to AOL, you can download a great font called Postcrypt. >Hi guys, > >Im starting on my invatations for my Halloween Party and Im still looking >for a "bloody" font. The ones I got from Don Bertinos page didnt all work >on my Apple-Computer. > >Thanks for looking. >Melanie Barry Wulfe bwulfe@txdirect.net From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Aug 23 21:15:20 1996 From: "skoelke" To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 23:03:48 +0000 Subject: Flashing lights cheap and low-tech Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Reading about using a motor and low voltage to control flashing lights brings back memories, so I'll describe what I did some years ago as a member of a church youth group haunted house team. Needed: One record player. (don't use mom and dad's new turntable, get one for $2 from garage sale) One model train transformer (dig through that box in the attic) Old string of x-mas tree lights (don't get mad when they die, they are still useful) Create a wooden disk to sit on turntable. Cut open and flatten some pop cans. Cut this metal into a 1/4 or 1/2 or 1/8th of a circle the size of your wooden disk. How much of a circle you want depends on how long you want the lights on compared to how long you want them off. Glue or nail metal to wooden disk. At center solder a metal fishing swivel. To the other side of the swivel, solder a wire that goes to the train transformer. Get some solid-core wire and strip about 1/2 inch of the end. Bend this stripped end into a slight curve that will ride on the wood/metal disk. Use some duct tape (best stuff ever created!) to attach this wire to the changing arm, or some other arm rigged to hang over the top of the disk. This wire (the brush) will go to your lights. Cut out 3 or 4 continious sockets from the strings of lights by untwisting the two different series that go together in a typical string of lights. Put bulbs into these sockets (the string should have at least 4 non-burnt out bulbs left... right?) Attach to your transformer and gradually bring up the voltage. If they get too bright, add more lights to your string, or just make sure that you keep the control below a certian level. If I remember correctly, I was able to use two bulbs in series with relative ease at lower voltages, but if I ran them at full power continiously, they burned out rather quickly. Take your bulbs and wire one end to the train transfomer, and the other to the record player brush. Now, turn on the transformer, and record player and watch your lights flash on and off. Use multiple brushes and you can control multiple sets of lights. A record player with a really slow (16RPM) and fast (72 RPM) setting are great for experimentation. I used this set up in a "haunted forest" scene where pairs of "eyes" flashed on and off in various places in the trees. The scratching noise of the brushes on the disk just sounded like scratchy trees in the wind. Duct tape may be needed on the disk so smooth over the transaction from the wood to the metal portion. Spin the disk by hand and see if the brushes are catching on the edge. Dan (using Sue's account) Oelke PS: Now if I can just get some more done on that Grim organist..... skoelke@metronet.com smiles are worth millions. :):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):) http://www.metronet.com/~skoelke/ From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Aug 23 21:19:24 1996 From: DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 23:06:57 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Flashing lights cheap and low-tech To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: >PS: Now if I can just get some more done on that Grim organist..... It's actually going to exist!? Huzzah!! Good show! Take pictures! ;-) -Doug From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Aug 24 00:57:27 1996 Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 00:47:39 -0700 (PDT) To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: "David \"HOMER\" Simpson (or one of the Clan)" Subject: Re: My Newest Project :) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Brian, >If you want to stick with latex, some other options are painting latex into >a negative rather than pouring it in, or painting latex over a positive (in >either case, do it carefully to avoid brushmarks and soak your brush in >liquid soap, scraping off the excess -- latex won't stick to the brush). > >You can use artist's acrylic paints mixed with rubber cement and diluted >with cement thinner to paint your colours onto the pieces, or you can add >the acrylic directly to the latex. > >One option isn't necessarily better than the other; a lot of it depends on >how much time you have to make the effort. >Are these pieces going to be attached to actors or are you making pierced >body parts that will be just "hanging around?" > >Brian > Thanks, this pretty much answered my question. And thanks also to the people who suggested other ideas. And Brian, to answer your question, these stretched fleshy remains will be hooked and stretched and chained to big boxes suspended in the air that are on a slow spin. --Jason From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Aug 24 02:51:43 1996 Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 04:49:09 -0700 From: "John P. Jeffries" To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Halloween stuff and a couple of tricks. Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Hello everyone, been watching for a bit. Sorry I haven't been involved until now. (Been REAL busy getting ready for this year!) We just launched a web-site about a week ago, and we still have TONS to add and correct some minor problems. If you wish to visit the Official Mr.Scary Productions site, the address is: www.kiva.net/~mrscary Visit the site often, it will change from now untill after October..we would also like to add Haunted houses on a soon to be added page for people to see in their area, just let us know, we will post it as soon as the page is up. We are working on our Domain regester, so the address will change soon. Someone mentioned GLOWING COBB-WEBS....a UV black light will make STREACHY SPIDER WEBBS (sold here at MSP, or another retailer) Glow an Eerie blue..Be sure to get the STREACHY ones..I have found some others that DO NOT glow. Another "trick" of the trade: ERA (the soap) will GLOW a BIRGHT BLUE under UV black light! (It is also FIRE PROOF!) Although, your scene will have the pleasent odor of Era. We use it for our FUNERAL room. We finger paint words like: "Don't go to sleep..." "Help us" and so forth.. A good way to add that extra thrill. After 17 years in this field, I hope to contribute as much as possible. Hauntingly, John. From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Aug 24 05:17:50 1996 Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 12:09:53 GMT To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Flashing lights cheap and low-tech From: fiberopt@usa.pipeline.com (Moon) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: I did an organist somthing light that, The organ played automatically, I used a cam under most of the keys and just hot glued a string to the bottem of the key and when the cam went around it pulled down diffrent keys in diffrent sequences. Pretty cool effect!! Then I took a simple shadow projector that I had from last halloween and made a picture of an organist, so it shines on the ground in front of the organ.. What we have is an organ playing automatically, with just a shadow their, it looks realy good.. Please give me ideas and reply.. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Fiberopt@usa.pipeline.com "From 0 To Witch in 2.1 Secconds" http://inet-images.com/eq/home/index.htm -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Aug 24 05:31:50 1996 Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 12:25:15 GMT To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Hi Everyone, It's Me again!! (Ajustments on fog machines..) From: fiberopt@usa.pipeline.com (Moon) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Well I made 12 of those realy cool fog machines that were listed and did a little modifications. Now allmost everyone room in our haunted house has a fog machine. We do a haunted house every year with a HUGE 37 room mansion that doesn't neeeeed to be decorated outside!! Its located in northern maryland and we make about 500,000 A year, 50% goes to some sort of benifit place. Some modifications I made were.. -2 gallon metal paint can, the square ones that laqure come in for -the holder of the fog juice. -A accual heating element I found a bunch of for a doller at a yard -sale, I'm not exactly how hot they get but It works WONDERFUL!! -A pump for the fog fluid -Copper tubing all the way, No more melting plastic. Halfway -through I use a heat shield so we don't have problems with the fog -fluid getting to hot in the gallon can. -A REALY small (3 pin holes) Exit for the fog, this makes for more -fog and a lighter coat of it. I found out how to make a cool hazer, it will haze about a 70x70 square footage if it is pointed in that direction. You can use normal fog juice for this machine.. I AM IN NO WAY RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT EVER YOU DO WITH THIS MARVOLOUS INFO. PARTS ON THIS MACHINE INCRECE TO TEMPETURES THAT ARE WAYYYYY TO HOT TO TOUCH. (DON'T EVEN THING ABOUT IT!) Ok, Build a fog machine from the directions that someone else earlier made. (Gallon jug, fish air pump, hose, copper tubbing etc...) Now this is what ya need for a hazer..!! a 3x3x3 1/2" plywood box with one end open and about 50 1/2" inch holes in it on sides and top (NOT BOTTEM!!!) put your fog machine in their, on the end of the outlet the fog pours out of, put a piece of metal or somthing that will block the flow of the fog, place it about 1" away from your copper pipe. obtain 2 fans for computers, these fans are 12 volts DC (you'll need a battery or a converter) and you can find them for about 5$ at a computer show or somthing. CUT 2 holes in your box on the bottom the sixe of the fans.. Then just pop your fans in (make sure the air is going INTO the box. Close up your box, start your fans first, then start your fog (don't forget heat up time) put the hazer in the center of the area you want hazed and let her rip.. make sure the fog flows slowly so the fans have a time to condence it and make it haze and not clouds!! ENJOY!! I have two allready! CYA.. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Fiberopt@usa.pipeline.com "From 0 To Witch in 2.1 Secconds" http://inet-images.com/eq/home/index.htm -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Aug 24 05:43:38 1996 Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 07:41:44 -0700 From: "John P. Jeffries" To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Hidden call Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: > I do not often give our ideas out, but this one is too cool to keep! > > One of our "spooktacualr" items we do to our Haunted house is have > Epitaphs outside with catchy stroies (short of corps). One story in > particular, mentions that a girl was buried alive in the walls of the > house, and you can still hear her...we have our story teller that is > pumping the crowd give the full story. We then took several speakers, > (3-way car-type)and put them BEHIND panels in the building. We then took > a female to do a recording on a 30 second loop tape (availible from Radio > Shack) and recorded her crying and help me and so forth. We took the > recording and fed it through a delay and added some cool effects. It's > played on a simple recorder, and put through a 30 watt/70volt amp (also > availible from radio shack). > > ***NOTE*** Do NOT use the tape in a REVERSABLE deck!!! If not put in > properly, it will eat it!!! (Trust me, I know!) > > Place the speakers in places that patrons come in CLOSE to a wall. Then > as they pass, they will hear the voice, but not know WHERE other than > from the wall. And with several speakers (we use 4) scatterd about the > house, it is heard more than once. (Thus making patrons think we don't > have several actors "hiding" behind the walls...Enjoy! > > Hauntingly, > > John J., Mr.Scary Productions LLC. From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Aug 24 06:13:42 1996 Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 13:06:41 GMT To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Another Idea From Me! From: fiberopt@usa.pipeline.com (Moon) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: This year I made rocks, Big ones with propane fires comming out of them for sort of a hellis happerance of my yard and house. To make propane flames etc.. THE INFORMATION CONTAINED IS VERY DANGEROUS IF NOT FOLLOWED PRECICELY!! FOLLOW ALL DIRECTIONS AND DO NOT RIG ANYTHING HERE, EXPLOSIVE GASSES ARE BEING USED AND YOU COULD BLOW UP A HOUSE IN THIS CASE. I ALLWAYS SUGGEST SOME SORT OF FIRE EXTINGUSIHER NEARBY BECAUSE THIS STUFF CAN GET OUT OF HAND IF NOT TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION. I AM NOT LIABLE FOR WHATEVER YOU DO. :A Long "Wall of Flame" Flames about 3 ft high..-> Take a section of 1/2" copper tubing if you can find it, if you can, just take a section of 1" Cap the end of it. take the smallest drill bit you can find, (not pin hole size but small..) I use 2/16 of an inch and it works wonders. Drill a hole in the top of the copper tubing every 3 inches or so.. Take the assembly from a propane grill, (the parts from the tank all the way up to the burner) and attach it to the um capped end of the copper pipe. Turn on your gass and run a propane torch (the small kind) along the pipe agenst each hole. this will cause a poof and a flame will rush accrost your pin holes if they are realy close so BE CAREFUL!! Ways to contain this fire: Set pipe on a small section (5" x length of pipe, with pipe in middle) of tin foil and make sure your holes are up. Put large rocks RIGHT NEXT to the pipe, on top of and everything, DON'T BLOCK THE PROPANE HOLES!!! This will make a look of a firey crack in the ground, I have included a picture!! :Just a flame, about 4" x 3" Take a section of copper pipe about 5" and cap one end of the pipe. Attach the assembly from the gas grill to the un capped end of the pipe. Drill many small holes 180 degrees around one side of the pipe. Turn on your propane, light and adjust. These flames are good in metal bowls that are sunk into the ground, they creat a realy cool lighting effect. NOTE ON PROPANE! If you can smell propane when your burning your flames, TURN THE PROPANE DOWN. Your propane is up to high and you might get an air explosion! I also suggest that you have a fireman look over your plans befor hand. MAKING ROCKS.. Rocks of LARGE size (twice the size of you ) are easy. Some of them can be heavy but some of them may not. If you are good at carving styrofoam, make them from that, glue sheets of styrofoam togeather and start carving. If you cant carve stryafoam (join the croud!) then do this. Build a wooden frame of 1x2's the approximate sixe of your rock, just make it a little smaller then you want your finished product. Take some chicken wire and cover the frame creating nooks and crannies (whatever..) and cover it with burlap that is soaked in wall paper past (available in 1 lb containers that you can mix in hardware stores). Make diffrent shapes and try to cover all of the chicken wire with one sheet. If you cant, just add more burlap. Let this dry! Paint it! I used pictures of all kinds of rocks to get this started. Use spray paint, laytex, oils.. ect. whatever works for you.. ENJOY!! Cya, Moon From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Aug 24 06:17:02 1996 Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 13:10:12 GMT To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Picture of starting propane line.. From: fiberopt@usa.pipeline.com (Moon) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Here is the picture of the propane line being started at Britania mannor 94" A Virtual haunted house put on the net!! Its realy neat check it out!! This also containes some of the stryafoam rocks in the back ENJOY! Moon! From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Aug 24 07:30:59 1996 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 15:43:19 -0700 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Halloween stuff and a couple of tricks. Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Haunting John, Last year I bought 4 bags of webs for our haunted tunnel.. only one problem after we had them all stretched out and ready to start we found that half of them glowed and half didn't under the BL. Now thanks to you we know why, we were thinking that some of the bags might have been older than the others. I will make sure to check the ones I buy this year!!! Thanks Kathy the new kid on the crypt mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Aug 24 09:30:25 1996 Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 12:16:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Lund To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Picture of starting propane line.. Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: On Sat, 24 Aug 1996, Moon wrote: > Here is the picture of the propane line being started at Britania mannor > 94" A Virtual haunted house put on the net!! Its realy neat check it out!! > This also containes some of the stryafoam rocks in the back > Don't see the picture, is it invisible? Larry From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Aug 24 10:58:26 1996 From: milwiron@btprod.com Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 12:37:32 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: RE: Fogger modifications Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Hey folks, this had been forwarded to me and I needed to reply so I just stopped in... (Much deleted from original post) >-Copper tubing all the way, No more melting plastic. Halfway -through I >use a heat shield so we don't have problems with the fog -fluid getting to >hot in the gallon can. Glad you liked the instructions. The check valve and silicone tubing originally called out in the instructions would have resolved the melted tubing and back flow problem. Many commercial foggers use silicone tubing from the heat exchanger to the pump. >-A REALY small (3 pin holes) Exit for the fog, this makes for more -fog >and a lighter coat of it. The higher back pressure and slightly higher temperature created by this should be no problem. I hope you've added thermostats and thermal safety fuses to the foggers since it sounds like you're running them unattended (very foolish if you are) in a public attraction. You're risking innocent lives without the safety additions. Hopefully, there are people in the rooms with the foggers who understand their operation. Even professional commercial fogger instructions warn against unattended running. Please also avoid the $25.00 a gallon fog fluids showing up in some stores and catalogs. Cheap fog fluid can only mean suspect chemicals or good fluid cut 50% with water. (I'm sure you'll see some replies on this comment but the truth is that even in large bulk buying quantities, the percentage and quality of the chemicals used can't magically add up to a retail price of $25.00 for GOOD fluid. If I could do it, I would.) If you have any questions, drop me a line. Denny B.T. Productions' Terror By Design Haunt Supplies & Scare Wares From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Aug 24 12:04:24 1996 Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 15:03:06 -0400 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: kahnn@pa.net (Nathan Kahn) Subject: halloween pix Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: OK this is a personal thing, but it does involve the list. There are many list subscribers who would like to trade halloween related pics. There are many list subscribers who would not like to receive any pics in email. I fall into the second category or I would volunteer to do this myself, but . . . would one of you kind picture people volunteer to make a list of the email addresses of those who would like to trade pics? Then any pics can be sent to this person, and this person can relay the pics to the pics list. Its quite simple really (on most email programs) and would make *everybody* on the list happy. Just a thought . . . Nathan ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Nathan Kahn Home: kahnn@pa.net Work: nathan@theatrefx.com Work Web: http://www.theatrefx.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Aug 24 12:04:32 1996 Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 15:03:03 -0400 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: kahnn@pa.net (Nathan Kahn) Subject: Re: Picture of starting propane line.. Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: >Here is the picture of the propane line being started at Britania mannor >94" A Virtual haunted house put on the net!! Its realy neat check it out!! >This also containes some of the stryafoam rocks in the back > >ENJOY! >Moon! I don't know how you are planning to send this picture, but please don't send it to the list. Many of us do not enjoy receiving pictures via email. I have an ftp site that I will be glad to let you use to store the picture so that others may download it. Alternatively, just ask people wanting the picture to let you know so you can send it directly. TIA, Nathan ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Nathan Kahn Home: kahnn@pa.net Work: nathan@theatrefx.com Work Web: http://www.theatrefx.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Aug 24 13:32:48 1996 From: sao@mit.edu To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Picture of starting propane line.. Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 16:31:17 EDT Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: (Replying to the list, since I think this is of general interest...) On Sat, 24 Aug 1996, Moon wrote: > Here is the picture of the propane line being started at Britania mannor > 94" A Virtual haunted house put on the net!! Its realy neat check it out!! Larry replies: >Don't see the picture, is it invisible? Folks, *PLEASE* don't post pictures to the list; it gets enough traffic as it is! If you have a picture for people to see, ask them to reply to you personally (This requires editting the mail headers) and then you can send them a copy. Alternately, I run a web site and would be happy to put up a collection of people's snapshots. Then you can publicize the URL and people can view or download them to their heart's content! Andy Oakland sao@mit.edu From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Aug 24 14:05:57 1996 From: htraver@dreamsys.com Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 14:08:26 -0700 Subject: Another Idea From Me! To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: For flames For flames in safety, why not do the old Disney trick with silk sheets blown upwards by fans, ragged edges to resemble flames, and red and yellow lights shone on them? Lot less work and much safer than working with propane.... Harry [ Sent From: Dreamscape Systems - dreamsys.com ] [ Location: Van Nuys, CA - (818) 781-7529 ] From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Aug 24 14:19:14 1996 Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 15:17:24 -0600 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Haunted Mansion in Northern Maryland Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Moon writes: > ...We do a haunted house every year with a HUGE > 37 room mansion that doesn't neeeeed to be > decorated outside!! Its located in northern > maryland... WHERE! I live in PG County. Give the details on location! Yow! From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Aug 24 21:42:26 1996 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: ferris@terrabyte.net (Joan Berkowitz) Subject: Re: question Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 00:41:53 -0400 Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: >I am assuming that along with the decoration there are people who >still give out candy/something to the little 'uns. Does anyone have >andy Ideas ..anything unique that you have given/ will give htat is >not to expensive that would apeal to all ages? I would love to bake >cookies but now days that just isnt worth the trouble and not safe. >Generally we order from Oriental Trade catalog >however, I did not see anything this year that appeals to me. I >really dont want to get candy and the toys they have are (cheap >looking( I guess You get what you pay for ) and they are unsafe for >the real young ones that go out. > >can anyone help with the delema this year?? > >Sue >skoelke@metronet.com >smiles are worth millions. >:):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):) >http://www.metronet.com/~skoelke/ Hi Sue, If we did n't give out candy, the kids here would egg the house. We're in Florida, so maybe over here they are candy fanatics? We tried to give out stickers a couple of years ago - don't do it - the kids stick it all over when they get it , on the cars, house, everywhere! The only way the sticker idea will work is if you use the flaming rock idea posted earlier. Be sure to put the rocks along your driveway ;-) Does anyone have a problem with shaving cream? One year kids here used it all over the city, then the city banned the sale of shaving cream a week before Halloween. Also, mailboxes were getting vandalized, with eggs and shaving cream and some peoples mailboxes were superglued along with car locks. Luckily it didn't happen to us, BECAUSE WE GAVE OUT CANDY !!!!!!!!!!!!!! ----------------------- Joni & Stephen Berkowitz ferris@terrabyte.net ----------------------- Batty About Halloween :):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):) From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Aug 25 03:43:51 1996 Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 05:57:21 -0400 (EDT) From: "Donna J. Logan" To: Joan Berkowitz Subject: Re: question Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: On Sun, 25 Aug 1996, Joan Berkowitz wrote: > Does anyone have a problem with shaving cream? One year kids here used it > all over the city, then the city banned the sale of shaving cream a week > before Halloween. We have a town here which has banned the sale of Silly String year 'round. > Also, mailboxes were getting vandalized, with eggs and > shaving cream and some peoples mailboxes were superglued along with car > locks. You're lucky, here in Connecticut they blow mailboxes up... :-/ From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Aug 25 07:49:20 1996 From: DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 09:47:21 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: question To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: >You're lucky, here in Connecticut they blow mailboxes up... Good grief! Down here in New Orleans, we keep hearing how we're the city with the highest per-capita crime rate in the nation. However, there's nothing like this happening on Halloween night! I guess the news just hasn't reached the kids yet. I hope it never does. It's a true pity that Halloween has to be a time for vandalism in so many places. We have folks that put up Halloween yards for an entire month down here, and they are never touched. We should consider ourselves very lucky. Of course, this is the suburbs I'm talking about, but it seems that even the suburbs aren't safe in some cities. Perhaps it's time to design some effects that can defend themselves. -Doug *********************************************************************** * Safety, Courtesy, Show and Efficiency: * Doug Ferguson * * The Keys To The Kingdom * dwfww@jazz.ucc.uno.edu * *********************************************************************** From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Aug 25 13:58:18 1996 Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 22:15:56 -0700 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Mud slides Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Hi Don, I am dropping you a line to say that on Monday when I meet Lynne she has to be home by 2:00 and we have to be back here for my daughter to go to work. She just was told today that she has to come in early :( She is a great kid, but two jobs and never seeing her is making her really crabby!! Are we still going to see you for the light parade?? Can you give me directions on how to find where the parade is???? Talk later, heading to the archives I need a push on a idea I have for a hollow tombstone with a skull on the inside.... Kathy From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Aug 25 14:20:32 1996 Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 17:03:55 -0400 (EDT) From: "Donna J. Logan" To: DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu Subject: Re: question Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: On Sun, 25 Aug 1996 DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu wrote: > >You're lucky, here in Connecticut they blow mailboxes up... > > Good grief! Down here in New Orleans, we keep hearing how we're > the city with the highest per-capita crime rate in the nation. However, > there's nothing like this happening on Halloween night! I guess > the news just hasn't reached the kids yet. I hope it never does. Actually, it's a year-round 'sport' here, just picks up a little more come October... > It's a true pity that Halloween has to be a time for vandalism in > so many places. We have folks that put up Halloween yards for > an entire month down here, and they are never touched. We should > consider ourselves very lucky. Of course, this is the suburbs I'm > talking about, but it seems that even the suburbs aren't safe in > some cities. Mailbox bombs are a suburban and rural 'sport' here, by rich, bored, country kids...when it comes to Halloween pranks, the city kids seem to restrict themselves to throwing eggs at passing cars...a few years we've had kids throwing pumpkins off of overpasses, hitting cars on the highway below, which has resulted in severe injuries and sometimes death.... So that it doesn't sound completely bleak up here in Yankee-land, some of the most elaborate Halloween decorations I've seen done up on houses in neighborhoods which are considered "not so nice"...and yet, I never see anything stolen or vandalized..... ;-) From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Aug 25 14:48:58 1996 Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 14:47:51 -0700 (PDT) To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: MilesManor Subject: Halloween Vandalism Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: I grew some of my own pumpkins one year and scarred some of them with my children's names and such. They were beautiful. I had them and 9 other home grown pumpkins sitting out on my porch for the month of October. Nothing was touched. Then when I woke up the morning of November 1st someone had smashed all my pumpkins in the road in front of my house. They didn't even have the decency to murder my pumpkins some place else. It just made me sick. Now every Halloween we drag the pumpkins into the foyer. No more smashed pumpkins. The first year we did that though our 100 lb. dog nearly ate one of the large carved pumpkins! But that's another story. __________________________ |\/\/\/\/\/| Lynne Miles \0 0 0 0 / qoe@sna.com |~~~~~~| Orangvale, CA From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Aug 25 16:54:18 1996 Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 01:10:20 -0700 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween Subject: OOPPPSSSSS!!!! Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Dear Members, I am very sorry to have sent that message to the list. I have been having a really bad day, and I think I am going to donate my body to the graveyard this year, I know I can donate my brain I don't use it as you can see!!! As for trouble at Halloween in our small town it is pretty much smashing pumpkins, and egging cars in the car lots. Most of the lots now are driving there cars to the farthest corner of the lots so the monsters can't reach them from the street. I have a strange pumpkin damage story from last year. We and one other person in our whole town do up our houses for Halloween. Last year we had over 250 kids from all areas of the town. We left our pumkins out front all carved and pretty due to the fact we were to darn tired to pick them up. The next morning we woke up and looked out our window and there were smashed pumpkins all over the street. I told hubby he would have a great start to clean up day...I was wrong!! The monsters had destroyed all the pumpkins on the block, but ours! They stood there all in one piece and smiling. I guess that was there way of saying Thanks!! This year I am growing my own and if they should touch them, they will see my graveyard up close and personal!!! Happy Hauntings Kathy the new kid on the crypt mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Aug 25 16:59:58 1996 Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 23:59:22 GMT To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Confetti/Glitter/Fog Shooters, How to make them.. From: fiberopt@usa.pipeline.com (Moon) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: I use a glitter shooter to emit "sparks" from someones fingers on my display this year. To make a Glitter Shooter you need the following: 1 empty tin soda can with top cut off and can cut in half. ?? ft of clear plastic pressure line, 1/8 inch. 1 air compressor 1 tablespoon glitter/confetti 1 funnel Glue Ok.. This is what you do: With the cut of soda can, drill a hole in the bottom of it just large enough so the plastic pressure line will fit through. Glue the pressure line in the very bottom of the can with no extra line sticking into the can.. (SMALL ANSI PICTURE) Correct: | | >Can | | | | \___/ | | >Air Line Incorrect: | | >Can | | | | \ |_| / | | >Air Line: Note airline is sticking into can. Then connect your air compressor to the air line. Use a momentary valve befor the can or you'll get a continuous blast of air and you don't want that.. Use the funnel to add about a tablespoon of glitter/confetti to the can, some of it might go down the tube, thats what its supposed to do, don't worry. When the proper moment hits, deliver a quick short blast of the momentary switch off of the air compressor and WHALLA! Shooting glitter. A nice and cheap company to order glitter is.. Available in MANY colors, ask for their free color catalog and gel swatchbooklet ROSCO STAGE PRODUCTS.. 1-800-ROSCO-NY (NY Branch) Now with fog.. Its slightly diffrent.. Build the same apparatus above, but with a full can, not one cut in half and leave the top on.. this might be a little hard to construct but not too hard. In the side of the can boar a 1-2" hole. Point a commertial fogger into the 2" hole. To Activate (This takes practive to deliver a quick blast of smoke.. Or you can deliver a long blast of smoke that shoots up.. pretty cool!!) Turn on the fogger to heat up, add fluid ect... Turn on fogger the lowest setting. Let the can fill up with smoke When can is full deliver blast of air.. This will produce a quick blast of smoke not good for much but a steam like effect. You can leave the fogger and the air on for a kinda haze like effect the air will cool the fog some what and it won't float away quite as quickly. Their Ya Go!! Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.. Kel From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Aug 25 17:36:26 1996 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: ferris@terrabyte.net (Joan Berkowitz) Subject: Re: question(s) Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 20:35:34 -0400 Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Donna wrote: >We have a town here which has banned the sale of Silly String year 'round. > >You're lucky, here in Connecticut they blow mailboxes up... > >:-/ --------------- Doug wrote: >Good grief! Down here in New Orleans, we keep hearing how we're >the city with the highest per-capita crime rate in the nation. However, >there's nothing like this happening on Halloween night! I guess >the news just hasn't reached the kids yet. I hope it never does. > >It's a true pity that Halloween has to be a time for vandalism in >so many places. We have folks that put up Halloween yards for >an entire month down here, and they are never touched. We should >consider ourselves very lucky. Of course, this is the suburbs I'm >talking about, but it seems that even the suburbs aren't safe in >some cities. > >Perhaps it's time to design some effects that can defend themselves. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi Donna, Doug, & Halloweenies! Here in Western Broward County, we have teenagers who burn frogs in lighter fluid on Halloween. We also have pumpkins smashed on peoples cars & property; shaving cream & eggs on garage doors, cars, sidewalks, people, decorations; toilet paper in trees, sticking to walls; etc... If you think we live in a Metro section of our city... think again. Do you know the saying, "We have some prime Florida real estate to sell you?"... and then you see a picture of swampland... Yes, all the new homes out here are built in the Everglades. There are all private ranch type homes here. The police don't know what to respond to first. One neighborhood, Chapel Trail, had all their mailboxes trashed. That's why we were planning to make a miniature house (dollhouse), and do most of the decorating inside. Hope to hear more indoor ideas for decorating... Thanks, Bye-Bye!!! ;-) ----------------------- Joni & Stephen Berkowitz ferris@terrabyte.net ----------------------- Batty About Halloween :):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):) From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Aug 25 17:48:09 1996 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: ferris@terrabyte.net (Joan Berkowitz) Subject: Re: Halloween Vandalism Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 20:49:15 -0400 Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: >I grew some of my own pumpkins one year and scarred some of them with my >children's names and such. They were beautiful. I had them and 9 other >home grown pumpkins sitting out on my porch for the month of October. >Nothing was touched. Then when I woke up the morning of November 1st >someone had smashed all my pumpkins in the road in front of my house. They >didn't even have the decency to murder my pumpkins some place else. It just >made me sick. Now every Halloween we drag the pumpkins into the foyer. No >more smashed pumpkins. The first year we did that though our 100 lb. dog >nearly ate one of the large carved pumpkins! But that's another story. >__________________________ >|\/\/\/\/\/| Lynne Miles > \0 0 0 0 / qoe@sna.com > |~~~~~~| Orangvale, CA When you talked that someone murdered your pumpkins, We will never forget the time someone did that to our pumpkin - smashed it and put shaving cream in it. We felt like it was murdered too. We wondered how someone would take a symbol of such a fun holiday and just kill it with hate. It felt like a desecration! We were upset for almost a week, it was that act of such unkindness that got to us. ----------------------- Joni & Stephen Berkowitz ferris@terrabyte.net ----------------------- Batty About Halloween :):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):) From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Aug 25 17:55:55 1996 Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 20:51:33 -0400 (EDT) From: "Donna J. Logan" To: Joan Berkowitz Subject: Re: question(s) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: On Sun, 25 Aug 1996, Joan Berkowitz wrote: > Here in Western Broward County, we have teenagers who burn frogs in lighter > fluid on Halloween. We also have pumpkins smashed on peoples cars & > property; shaving cream & eggs on garage doors, cars, sidewalks, people, > decorations; toilet paper in trees, sticking to walls; etc... The toilet paper thing seems to come and go up here....some years nothing, and then one year everywhere you look is draped with toilet paper. That I can take. I'll even tolerate soaping car windows....but eggs and tomatoes are the worst! I live in an apartment complex which has LOTS of kids, and when I first moved here I wondered if I'd have to set up a commando post to guard my car thru October...but nothing. I've lived here since 1981, and I think the 2nd or 3rd Halloween there was some really minor soaping...and then a few years after that, I happened to be taking my garbage out to the dumpster one October night, and a car was parked nearby with a couple inspecting it intently, and the guy grumbling and swearing under his breath....figuring kids had maybe soaped it, as I passed them on the way back, I asked them if they'd gotten soaped...."Nah!" the guy grumbled "Damn kids sprinkled some sort of powder all over cars in the lot!" "Smells like bath powder" the wife added, wiping her finger along the hood, which indeed had some sort of powder on it, which was now wet with dew (we get really heavy dews in October), and extending her hand out for me to smell....yep, bath powder. I hadn't noticed anything obviously admiss with my car when I went by, but before I went back to my apartment I checked, and yeah, it had gotten the powder treatment too...but since the dew was so heavy, it was basically being washed off by nature. I thought it was funny, but I could hear the guy still grumbling and cussing as he wiped off his car... guess he didn't like his car smelling like Cashmere Bouquet..... That was the first time I'd ever heard of anyone doing that, and it never happened again.... Donna (car may not run right, but it smells swell) Logan ;-) From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Aug 25 19:13:08 1996 Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 22:12:18 -0400 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: "Freya E. Harris" Subject: Re: question Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: In Detroit they used to have trouble around Halloween. Every year firebugs would hold what came to be known as "Devils Night" by setting fire to abandoned buildings. I have heard that, over the last couple years, the problem has practically disappeared thanks to increased police presence and the vigilance of Detroiters. Re mailbox vandals: I heard about a man who lived out in the country and had a problem with teenage hooligans who would drive down the road late at night and smack mailboxes with baseball bats. After several unsuccessful attempts to stop them, he had a brainstorm. He bought two mailboxes, one larger than the other. He poured concrete in the larger one so it surrounded the smaller one, and after the concrete dried he set up his new box. Soon afterwards he found two - maybe three - shattered baseball bats near his mailbox. When word got around about what he did, mailbox battery ceased altogether. ATLANTA, GEORGIA: Winner of the 1995 World Series AND of the 1996 Olympic Games From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Aug 25 20:42:42 1996 From: "Dustin Moore" To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 19:48:45 -7 Subject: Re: question Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: > Re mailbox vandals: I heard about a man who lived out in the country and had > a problem with teenage hooligans who would drive down the road late at night > and smack mailboxes with baseball bats. After several unsuccessful attempts > to stop them, he had a brainstorm. He bought two mailboxes, one larger than > the other. He poured concrete in the larger one so it surrounded the smaller > one, and after the concrete dried he set up his new box. Soon afterwards he > found two - maybe three - shattered baseball bats near his mailbox. When > word got around about what he did, mailbox battery ceased altogether. Out here in the suburbian farm land there was a rash of people actually going out and running into mailboxes/signs with motorvehicles. I know of several neighbors who have taken actions to stop this activity, one of which involved 1 cubic yard of concrete, allot of rebar, a large I beam and some clever wood work. There is also an urban legend of someone who was fed up of loosing Jack-o-lanterns that he placed at the end of his driveway to baseball bats that he put in a small amount of contact explosive inside it which caused the destrution of the end of a baseball bat. I have doubts that this actually happend, but it would sure do the job. **Dustin Moore** moore@teleport.com http://www.teleport.com/~moore/entertech.html Entertainment hobbyist *** From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Aug 26 00:39:01 1996 Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 00:38:26 -0800 From: Christie Hickey To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: question Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: boy! You guys have problems. I have never seen nor heard of anything like that except for chicago. We get a good dose of chicago on the news halloween night. I would move if stuff like you are describing happened around me. -- Tad Peters A. Harlequin Costume makeup@earthlink.net 9589 Foothill Blvd http://home.earthlink.net/~makeup Rancho Cucamonga, CA 91730 murphy_for_congress@desktop.tyrell.com (909) 948-2950 From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Aug 26 02:21:16 1996 From: DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 04:17:59 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: question To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: >I would move if stuff like you are describing happened around me. Amen, Tad. Land mines are just too bloomin' expensive nowadays. Heck, the cost of a good round of ammo has already topped $.75 What's a peace-lovin' non-violent soul to do? ;-) -Doug *********************************************************************** * Safety, Courtesy, Show and Efficiency: * Doug Ferguson * * The Keys To The Kingdom * dwfww@jazz.ucc.uno.edu * *********************************************************************** From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Aug 26 03:36:07 1996 Date: Mon, 26 Aug 96 06:35:47 EDT To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Bill Lewis Subject: Re: question -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: At 10:37 AM 8/23/96 -0600, you wrote: >About homemade stuff... There is a guy where I work who gives out halloween money. They would hand paint one side (or 2) with jack-o's, witches on brooms etc... They started out with dollars and then 1/2 dollars, and then quarters (they became real popular). Got very time consuming and expensive for them so I don't think they do it anymore. Bill Lewis NSWC Carderock Division Code 6060 (301) 227-2742 lewisw@oasys.dt.navy.mil lewisb@erols.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Aug 26 03:36:47 1996 Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 05:27:37 -0600 From: Brandt To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: fresh bodies Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Hello to one and all! We are the Brandts and pretty new to the net...this is the first mail list we have joined...so if we do something wrong or stupid please let us know. We had to join the group after reading up in the archives! We decerate every year(not quite as high tec as some of you...but we put on a good show). This past halloween we had... 53 tombstones made from styrofoam(we thought it was an original idea)(we can send the epataths if anyone wants) 2 hearses(a new hobby of ours collecting old hearses, we now have... a 71 rearloading hearse a 68 rearloading hearse a 64 flower car 3 caskets one is fiberglass, I got it when I was 15(much to my mothers dismay) the other two are metal we got them special for this past halloween they are of a dubious origin ( A tip I did not see in the archives is that almost any big metal scrap yards will have a few caskets laying around and they will normaly sell them for a few bucks) plus many different lights and figures we got from Wally World and Spencers ( A few years ago we got a bunch of inflatable lightup pumpkins from Spencers, they have become very tresured decerations...but we cant find anymore if anyone knows where to get some please let us know) Also we have many professional grade costumes, So we had many freinds and our kids walking through the 'graveyard' scareing the trick or treaters. We had so much traffic going down our dead end street that the cops sent someone to direct traffic:) We live in a small town in Mississippi (fifty thousand people) and very few people decerate, and no one else goes all out. So far for this year we have aquired an electric chair, and I have started building the 'flying ghosts' from the archives. We are really excited to find this group and hope we can contribute something We hope we havent taken up to much bandwith just thought you might like to know who we are.(Also please forgive my spelling...my wife is asleep and she is my proof reader) Jimmy, Kelly, Abby, Mercedes, & Scooter Brandt From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Aug 26 05:09:12 1996 Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 13:23:15 -0700 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: mail box smash Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Status: O X-Status: Good Monday to all, On the line of the mailbox solutions...A older man in our area got sick of it. He took 1gallon milk jugs and filled them with paint!! He hung