Subject: Re: New Orleans Haunt Review #2 Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Doug posts: >New Orleans Haunt Report #2 (nice description deleted) >...They aren't a charity, yet neither are they 'professional,' at >least in the sense most Halloween-L list members would use that >term... Hi Doug! I tend to keep things simple for myself. Life's a lot easier that way... ;) I use "pro" and "amateur" in the classic sense. Pros make money with their efforts. Amateurs don't. Some people may *try* to be pros and lose their shirts. The IRS likes to call that a "hobby." Some "hobbyists" make a lot of money. The IRS doesn't take kindly to a money making venture being called a "hobby." ;) Some amateurs (myself included) ask for a pittance to defray costs - but even though I charge, I make no money. Of course, with the Olympics (and mega-buck en- dorsement deals) combining pros and amateurs in the same venues, the lines become hopelessly blurred... - Stu stuart.mcintire@uage.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 07:52:20 1996 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 96 10:39:00 EST From: Stuart McIntire To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: OOPS! Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hey Doug...if you get a chance, could you please forward to me (privately) your New Orleans Haunt Review #2? I accidentally erased it from my inbox :( - Stu stuart.mcintire@uage.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 08:09:42 1996 From: milwiron@btprod.com Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 09:56:19 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Electric Chair Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 09:34 AM 10/21/96 EST, you wrote: > Denny and Scott may have some additional > thoughts... > - Stu I love that chair, my heart skips a beat every time I see it. Have you ever gotten nailed by an electric fence on a damp day? That's exactly how my chest feels when I watch the chair go off. My only complaint would be that the "thrashing" goes on a little too long. Maybe it was shown in the wrong setting or... we all have different tolerances for this stuff.? Denny From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 08:14:59 1996 From: "David S. Allan" To: "'Halloween'" Subject: Critter eyes ideas Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 10:43:49 -0400 Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com ------ =_NextPart_000_01BBBF3C.C21DDAA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Last weekend I put together a string of lights to put in some bushes to = resemble critter eyes, as has been mentioned here before. I bought a = string of 50 orange miniature lights at Target for $1.99. In preparing = them to be put out, I discovered a couple of things I'd like to share. I hot-melt-glued the lights in pairs to popsicle sticks. I played = around a bit with the distance between them and found that a half a = popsicle stick spacing (about 1-3/4 to 2 inches) was pretty effective. = If they are separated by a much larger distance, your brain won't pair = them as eyes so much. A little tip: wrap the wire around the stick in = between the bulbs of a pair. This will reduce tangling of the wires in = the branches and in storage. If you wish, you could glue spring type = clothes pins to some or all of the popsicle sticks. I didn't, though. When you install the lights in your tree or bush, place them deep into = the branches so they glow from the interior of the bush. And, be sure = to keep the pairs horizontal. I was not careful when I put ours in the = tree, and the ones that are slanted or vertical do not look like eyes. = Your mind is great at interpreting these things. When's the last time = you saw an animal perched sideways in a tree? Have fun! 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I don't understand either. I mean, it was *mummified* right? So what's the problem? ;) Lisa Marie Peterson peterson@fore.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 08:48:58 1996 From: milwiron@btprod.com Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 10:33:31 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Corpse skin color? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hey All, Anyone have a suggestion for a basic skin color for a rotting corpse? As far as detailing muscle and bone I'm O.K. I'm just not sure about the base color. Artistically challenged, Denny PS. He's Anglo, but as time goes on and to be fair to all people, we'll add other ethnic groups. ;) From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 08:50:01 1996 Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 05:30:26 -0700 From: Mike Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Electric Chair Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hi Ghouls, I can see from all the reviews of Haunted Houses that there are three things that are needed for a good scare!! 1. Build up 2. Shock and Scare 3. The after Shock when they don't expect it >From what you all say any one of these things missing kill off the best effect of the scare!! From reading I have learned that the scare is only good if the build up and the after effect are just as good. Thanks for the help. Kathy The new kid on the crypt mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 08:55:25 1996 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 08:33:20 -0700 From: Catie Andrews To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Scott Axworthy flying ghost (long) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com milwiron@btprod.com wrote: > Hey Bob, > Congrats on your Axworthy Automatic Outdoor Flying Ghost System & Bicycle > Wheel Recycler. Yeah, but I bought my wheels. ;-) > Keep an eye on the motor temp. Most small fan motors are "air over" which > means it requires some air flow to stay cool. You may have to add an > external fan blade to keep air moving around and through the motor like I did. Thanks for the tip. Fans are on sale at Wal-Mart now. > Good idea using the "Max Brackets", beats the heck out of the monster > (read- heavy!) Unistrut mounts I built. It's an interesting sight seeing me > on top of a ladder holding the mount in one hand (barely) and trying to > drive the first lag screw with a cordless drill with the other. Lots of > swearing heard 'round my place. ;) I drilled a hole at the top of the bracket so I can hang it on hook/nail while securing it to the pole/rafter/whatever. Kinda like what a ceiling fan has. > After running the ghost for 2 weeks last year I noticed the .025 diameter > woven Kevlar line I was using had worn about half way through where the > ghost harness hung, I restrung a new line to avoid any crashes. This year if > I see the same wear I think I'll try replacing a 6 to 10 foot section of > line instead of the whole thing. Should be faster and easier. > Also- try not to use any monofilament fishing line to hang the ghost off > the main line, last year I didn't, this year I did. I had my first crash a > couple days ago when the monofilament wore and broke on a breezy day. The > single strand line gives no easy indication of wear before it breaks. I've > switched over to .010 woven Kevlar now to hang the ghost. Again, thanks for the tip. Could you give me some more detail about the stand-off used to attach the hanging line to the main string? Thanks. Bob Andrews bandrews@inreach.com (on Catie's machine) From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 09:00:42 1996 From: milwiron@btprod.com Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 10:41:46 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: New Orleans Haunt Review #2 Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Doug wrote in part: >>New Orleans Haunt Report #2 (nice description deleted) >>...They aren't a charity, yet neither are they 'professional,' at >>least in the sense most Halloween-L list members would use that >>term... Stu wrote in part: > Pros make money with their efforts. Amateurs don't. > Some people may *try* to be pros and lose their > shirts. The IRS likes to call that a "hobby." Hey now, I make money and the IRS takes it all (for my own good I'm told). What am I called... a sucker? ;) Denny B.T. Productions' Terror By Design Haunt Supplies & Scare Wares From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 09:03:27 1996 From: sao@mit.edu To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: McFly's Haunted Bathroom Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 11:48:55 EDT Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com htraver@dreamsys.com: >Jeanni, the mirror trick is not that hard to create. Try a two way >mirror and light up whatever is behind it. Its the same trick Disneyland >uses for the hitchhiking ghosts at the end of the Haunted Mansion. And we're back to the start of the conversation! I'm the one who's doing a haunted bathroom for my party this coming weekend, including a two-way mirror in the medicine cabinet and a skull behind it. I've removed the mirror from my medicine cabinet, and bought a piece of two-way mirror glass to replace it with. Original thought was to just put the skull mask in the back of the cabinet, but this didn't work well...The cabinet isn't deep enough, so the skull appeared too far forwards. (PS ... The pane of glass cost $35.) So this weekend I removed the whole cabinet, and just mounted the door frame with glass over the resulting hole. (I _love_ being a homeowner! You can do stuff like this on a whim! And a beer or two helps. :^) Guest two-way Cheap K-mart (I have odd mirror skull mask friends) _____ | ____ / \ | / | / (O) | ] | | _\ | | | | | | / | | < | #### | \ / | \ ____| | | | First draft of the effect used flashlight bulbs mounted on the door frame shining at the mask, activated by a pressure-sensitive mat under the bathmat. This gave a nice shadowed effect on the mask, but it was a little too dim and didn't show thorough the two-way mirror well enough. So I wound up putting the light bulbs INSIDE the mask, so it glows from within. I've got a bulb illuminating the forehead and another one in the jaw. I left the eyes deliberately dark...This way, when people peer into the mirror, they see a skeleton face with THEIR OWN EYES reflected looking back at them. Creepy and cool. Ever seen the poster for "Evil Dead II?" Here it is, live! :Andy Oakland sao@mit.edu From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 09:34:27 1996 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 11:25:12 -0500 (CDT) To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: DJ Subject: Re: McFly's Haunted Bathroom Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 11:48 AM 10/21/96 Andy wrote: >I've removed the mirror from my medicine cabinet, and bought a piece of >two-way mirror glass to replace it with. (snip a very good idea) Hi, Andy! That's great! You've got to remember to post the results, though. I'm waiting to hear how many times you have to mop that bathroom floor! :) DJ, who thinks the bathroom is a fine place to scare the, um, "you know" out of people From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 09:35:17 1996 From: Scott Axworthy Subject: Re: Scott Axworthy flying ghost To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 09:20:21 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Bob: Glad to hear its coming together. Its a hard one to get a good picture of but I hope you give it a try so we can all see. Bob Andrews writes: > > I just finished the drive wheel assembly for my version of the Scott > Axworthy Flying Ghost. It uses a 27" bicycle wheel with an additional > 24" rim bolted to it, a motor from a 3-speed box fan (Denny's > suggestion), and a large heavy duty shelving bracket called a "Max > Bracket". I'm using a 27" rubber tube protector for the drive belt > (cheap and plentiful). The motor is very quiet and provides adiquate > power to propel my 8 oz. ghost around a 170' course. > -- > > Bob Andrews > bandrews@inreach.com > http://www.anaserve.com/~BoBandrews > (With dark circles under my eyes from no time to sleep) -Scott -- Scott Axworthy Phone: 206-649-7668 Cascade Design Automation Fax: 206-649-7600 scott@cdac.com http://www.cdac.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 09:36:23 1996 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 09:09:12 -0700 From: Catie Andrews To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: McFly's Haunted Bathroom Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com sao@mit.edu wrote: > So this weekend I removed the whole cabinet, and just mounted the door frame > with glass over the resulting hole. (I _love_ being a homeowner! You can do > stuff like this on a whim! And a beer or two helps. :^) Yeah!! I'm going to cut a hole in my garage wall this afternoon for an exhaust fan. Great ASCII art BTW. Bob Andrews bandrews@inreach.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 09:43:09 1996 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 96 12:35:02 EST From: Stuart McIntire To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Corpse skin color? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Denny asks: >Anyone have a suggestion for a basic skin color for a rotting corpse? As >far as detailing muscle and bone I'm O.K. >I'm just not sure about the base color. >Artistically challenged, >Denny Ummm...Denny...Methinks you've been inhaling the cobweb fumes again. ;) Forensically challenged, - Stu From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 09:45:16 1996 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 96 12:34:21 EDT To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Bill Lewis Subject: Glow Stiks!! What to do!? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hello all, I'm back from vacation, did jy'all miss me? Upon return, we found that my sister-in-law left me three cases of 12" glow sticks (chem sticks). Now I have to figure out what to do with them. Any suggestions for anything interesting? BTW, they flouresce just fine under BLB without popping the glass chem tube. Bill Lewis NSWC Carderock Division Code 6060 (301) 227-2742 lewisw@oasys.dt.navy.mil lewisb@erols.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 09:56:06 1996 From: cloudy@wolfenet.com Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 09:49:27 -0700 (PDT) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: pumpkin preservative Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hey everyone: I just joined the list (I know, but better late than never) and was wondering if anyone has heard of a pumpkin preservative for carved jack 'o lanterns. My father heard something about it on a national radio show, but so far I havent been able to find it locally (I live in WA state). I need the stuff!! I was planning on having a yard full of pumpkins this year but they only last about 3 days once carved. I doubt I could do so many in so little time as my carvings have become very elaborate! Well, let me know if anyone has heard of the stuff! Colleen From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 09:59:07 1996 From: Scott Axworthy Subject: Re: Scott Axworthy flying ghost To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 09:48:17 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Denny and Bob: milwiron@btprod.com writes: > ...deleted... > > Hey Bob, > Congrats on your Axworthy Automatic Outdoor Flying Ghost System & Bicycle > Wheel Recycler. Environmental-friendly haunts :-) > Keep an eye on the motor temp. Most small fan motors are "air over" which > means it requires some air flow to stay cool. You may have to add an > external fan blade to keep air moving around and through the motor like I did. I was doing a confidence test (ran the ghost for about 5 hours) this weekend and noticed my motor got a bit warm as well. Luckily the weather has turned and it providing natural cooling. > Good idea using the "Max Brackets", beats the heck out of the monster > (read- heavy!) Unistrut mounts I built. It's an interesting sight seeing me > on top of a ladder holding the mount in one hand (barely) and trying to > drive the first lag screw with a cordless drill with the other. Lots of > swearing heard 'round my place. ;) I'm still laughing from this, I do the same thing! Denny, has me beat on the industrial strength scale though. > After running the ghost for 2 weeks last year I noticed the .025 diameter > woven Kevlar line I was using had worn about half way through where the > ghost harness hung, I restrung a new line to avoid any crashes. This year if > I see the same wear I think I'll try replacing a 6 to 10 foot section of > line instead of the whole thing. Should be faster and easier. I haven't had any problems with the crab pot string, it gets minor fuzzies (how's that for a technical term) but no sign of wear through. > Also- try not to use any monofilament fishing line to hang the ghost off > the main line, last year I didn't, this year I did. I had my first crash a > couple days ago when the monofilament wore and broke on a breezy day. The > single strand line gives no easy indication of wear before it breaks. I've > switched over to .010 woven Kevlar now to hang the ghost. WIND! The great ghost buster. I sure hope its not windy halloween night. -- Scott Axworthy Phone: 206-649-7668 Cascade Design Automation Fax: 206-649-7600 scott@cdac.com http://www.cdac.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 10:02:26 1996 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 09:45:20 -0700 From: Catie Andrews To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Scott Axworthy flying ghost Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Scott Axworthy wrote: > > Bob: > > Glad to hear its coming together. Its a hard one to get a good > picture of but I hope you give it a try so we can all see. > Scott, Thanks for reminding me. I'll take a picture of it now, BEFORE I paint it flat black! Bob Andrews on Catie's (Wife-woman) Machine bandrews@inreach.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 10:12:51 1996 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 96 12:37:19 EST From: Stuart McIntire To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re[2]: New Orleans Haunt Review #2 Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Denny asks: >Hey now, I make money and the IRS takes it all (for my own good I'm told). >What am I called... a sucker? ;) Nope. Profit-challenged. ;) - Evil Doc You-Know-Who From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 10:15:26 1996 From: KKrouskop@midmark.com (Kendra Krouskop-Smith) To: halloween-l@netcom.com (halloween-l) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 13:10:58 -0400 Subject: Read: Critter eyes ideas Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 10:16:54 1996 From: R4M2J1@aol.com Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 12:55:58 -0400 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Glow Stiks!! What to do!? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Glow sticks look great inside of a skull or mask. Dale r4m2j1@aol.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 10:30:12 1996 From: Scott Axworthy Subject: Re: Corpse skin color? To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 10:14:01 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Denny: Skin gets it color from various sources, mostly from the blood circulating within your skin. If you've ever seen anyone that no longer has the old blood circulating, they look very bluish/white. So the base is actually somewhat reddish. Now if the subject is rotting, it will be a darker reddish due to lack of oxygen. The most realistic look may come from layered colors. If you look at the skin in classic paintings you actually see quite a few colors, reds, whites, blue veins, yellows, pinks, etc. It is actually a combination of all these that gives the "skin" color. Some old master painters used a layered technique, applying a monochromatic base (such as a burnt sienna, which is reddish) and then using additional layers that have been thinned and are somewhat translucent. It is hard getting a good fleshy color in one stroke though. Even most mainstream corpse-like cheesy props will have a base color and then several different colors splayed on to give a more realistic tone. As I've mentioned to you in the past I have been trying to do some halloween-ish portraiture in oils and have had some success. The skin has cause the most grief though. I've done a bunch of testing but haven't really produced much to use yet.....it only takes time.... The best luck that I have had (in my case of painting the living) has been with a two phase process as described above. A range of tones with burnt sienna (mix some with white and some with black) and paint a monochrome image. This may be easier for you with a 3-D subject, you don't have to paint in the dimensional portions. A generic wash might suffice. Then I use (and this is the hard part) a range of tones primarily with an orangy mixture that has been thinned with thinner and another oil medium called "Stand Oil". This gives it the translucense factor. Other layers could be added for veins, etc. It depends how detailed you want to get. I hope this helps. You will have to convert to your medium as necessary. Let me know if you want some specific color names. I made quite a few notes on this stuff when I was trying to work it out. milwiron@btprod.com writes: > > Hey All, > Anyone have a suggestion for a basic skin color for a rotting corpse? As > far as detailing muscle and bone I'm O.K. > I'm just not sure about the base color. > > Artistically challenged, > Denny > PS. > He's Anglo, but as time goes on and to be fair to all people, we'll add > other ethnic groups. ;) > -Scott -- Scott Axworthy Phone: 206-649-7668 Cascade Design Automation Fax: 206-649-7600 scott@cdac.com http://www.cdac.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 10:35:05 1996 From: "Arnold & Sheri" To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 13:25:23 +0000 Subject: Re: Glow Stiks!! What to do!? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com I bought a few of these myself for this year....gee....wish someone had left ME three cases of them *grin*. Anyway, I"m going to put mine behind the webs I'm putting up to give them an eerie glow....it conceals the glow stick nicely and has a great effect as well. My .02:) Sheri aka PoisnIvy > Date: Mon, 21 Oct 96 12:34:21 EDT > To: halloween-l@netcom.com > From: Bill Lewis > Subject: Glow Stiks!! What to do!? > Reply-to: halloween-l@netcom.com > Hello all, I'm back from vacation, did jy'all miss me? > > Upon return, we found that my sister-in-law left me three cases of 12" glow > sticks (chem sticks). Now I have to figure out what to do with them. Any > suggestions for anything interesting? BTW, they flouresce just fine under > BLB without popping the glass chem tube. > > Bill Lewis > NSWC Carderock Division > Code 6060 > (301) 227-2742 > lewisw@oasys.dt.navy.mil > lewisb@erols.com > +============================================+ |Visit us at: | | http://www.geocities.com/heartland/4269 | +============================================+ From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 10:46:10 1996 From: DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 12:29:35 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: New Orleans Haunt Review #2 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com >Pros make money with their efforts. Amateurs don't. Quite right, Stu. I didn't mean to imply otherwise, and I was actually familiar with the distinction. What I _should_ have said was that they didn't have the 'corporate feel', or perhaps that they were pros who kept the feel of loving hobbyists. -Doug *********************************************************************** * Safety, Courtesy, Show and Efficiency: * Doug Ferguson * * The Keys To The Kingdom * dwfww@jazz.ucc.uno.edu * *********************************************************************** From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 10:50:49 1996 From: rmackes@hal.muhlberg.edu (Rudi Mackes - OIT) Subject: Re: Halloween in Salem, MA To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 13:31:40 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hi Greg, I spent halloween in Salem 2 years ago. It was great. Went to the Hawthorne Hotel for the annual Witches Ball on halloween nite. Fantastic. I would recommend everyone spending at least one halloween in Salem. Planning to go again in 2 years when halloween falls on a Saturday. There is just too much to do, as you can see in your haunted happenings brochure. Everyone there does go all out, for at least 2 weeks straight. Greg, you will have an awesome time. Rudi :-) From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 10:53:50 1996 From: "Brian Henderson" To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 08:47:12 -800 Subject: Re: Bird with LED eyes Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com > I'm still trying to finish up my graveyard, and I really liked the > idea of perching a raven-like bird on one of the tombstones. I'd > like mine to have L.E.D. eyes which run off a battery pack (2 Cs). I > also have a switch for the battery pack. I'd like to make the inside > of the bird hollow, and have the battery pack sit inside, while the > switch is accessible. > > I tried carving the bird out of styrofoam, but couldn't hollow the > neck (for the wires to the eyes very well. Now I'm thinking about > making a chicken wire model with a paper mache covering, but I'm not > sure if this will work either. > > Anybody out there already been down this road? Anybody have > suggestions? I appreciate your ideas and help. Thanks. I did something like this many years ago and carved it out of styrofoam, covered it in black feathers, and had it move in response to a soundtrack. With mine, I didn't have a 'neck', the head attached directly to the body and gave the bird an interesting look. If you are using a neck, just run the wires on the outside of the body and cover them with feathers. I'd suggest using black wire, obviously. Everything you need for this should be available from your local Michaels/craft store. -Brian From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 10:59:02 1996 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 13:53:07 -0400 From: Craig Lewis To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Denny and supplies! Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Stuart McIntire wrote: > So aside from the rather > attractive ideas of 220V lines > and rock salt... :) ...about > the next best thing is to put > your hands on the dye capsules > that banks use in case of rob- > beries... ;) > > Just imagine a failed Halloween > thief trying to scrub off a > fluorescent orange dye. I'd > give him the third degree under > a 48" fluorescent blacklight > tube just to let him know what > kind of idiot he really is! > > - Evil Doc It is sad that such a great holiday can be spoiled by a few ungrateful fools! The neightborhood around here is pretty quiet. Sure, we have our turn, but not often. I also like to drive around the neighborhood when I come home from work at 12:15am. Just to make sure there isn't anything strange going on. With as much money and time that I put into Halloween and Christmas, I can spare the few minutes to help "protect" it. Craig -- CyberImage- Custom Caps, Shirts & Color ID Badges...GREAT HALLOWEEN SHIRTS & CAPS! http://www.intrlink.com/~cyber Be Sure to Visit Our Halloween Page at: http://www.intrlink.com/~cyber/halloween From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 10:59:37 1996 From: DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 12:38:26 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: New Orleans Haunt Review #2 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com >Hey now, I make money and the IRS takes it all (for my own good I'm told). >What am I called... a sucker? ;) Perhaps 'broke' might be more accurate... or perhaps 'monitarily challenged,' to be P.C. ;-) -Doug *********************************************************************** * Safety, Courtesy, Show and Efficiency: * Doug Ferguson * * The Keys To The Kingdom * dwfww@jazz.ucc.uno.edu * *********************************************************************** From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 11:00:06 1996 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 13:52:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Shaggy To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Corpse skin color? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com On Mon, 21 Oct 1996 milwiron@btprod.com wrote: > Hey All, > Anyone have a suggestion for a basic skin color for a rotting corpse? As I've found that in my limited experience that if you use the combination of somesort of beige (creme flesh tones etc.) white, AND black you get a pretty nice effect. This creates the uneven rotting look, besides this is going to be seen mostly at night, so you don't need to be artistically perfect or anything. Right? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ Aaron D. Harper _/ _/ IRC Office, Univ. _/ "We do not stop playing because we've _/ of NC at Greensboro _/ grown old, We grow old because we've _/ www.uncg.edu/~adharper _/ stopped playing." --Anonymous-- _/ adharper@hamlet.uncg.edu _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ************************************************************************ Out side of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it is too dark to read. ************************************************************************ From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 11:09:59 1996 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 10:55:14 -0700 From: Bob Andrews To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Scott Axworthy flying ghost Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Scott Axworthy wrote: > > Bob: > > Glad to hear its coming together. Its a hard one to get a good > picture of but I hope you give it a try so we can all see. I've just made a vid-cap of the drive wheel. It's a vid-cap, but you can see everything. If you want me to send you a copy, e-mail me directly (bandrews@inreach.com) instead of posting to the list. Bob Andrews bandrews@inreach.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 11:15:07 1996 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 10:25:26 -0700 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Greg Hope Subject: Re: mummified cat Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com > I don't understand either. I mean, it was *mummified* right? So >what's the problem? ;) Here's another idea for those of us searching for unique plans for cats. One day, about two months ago, the neighborhood kids were at my porch, urging me to come out and see what happened to another neighbor's cat. We all walked over to this house and... Is everyone familiar with those fake body parts and stuffed cats that you can lodge in a trunk lid or closed door? Well, all we could conclude is that this cat must have been lounging on the top of the opened garage door, somehow got tangled in the brace on the door when it began to close, and rode the door all the way into the closed position. When we all reached the house, there was half a cat protruding from the top of the closed garage door. It didn't get chopped, but was simply caught in this position and apparently perished there. Now, I'm not a cat lover, but I don't tolerate cruelty to animals, either. I remember thinking what a shame it was that Halloween was still a few months away. Greg H (619)945-4424 F (619)726-2804 E ghope@mailhost.csusm.edu From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 11:28:48 1996 From: milwiron@btprod.com Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 13:08:58 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Scott Axworthy flying ghost (long) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 08:33 AM 10/21/96 -0700, you wrote: >Again, thanks for the tip. Could you give me some more detail about the >stand-off used to attach the hanging line to the main string? >Thanks. Hey Bob, Yup, I used a different method of attachment than what Scotty suggested. I don't know why... I have 2 small loops of stainless steel wire hooked over the main line that I then hang a 6 inch or so long loop of Kevlar line, the ghost then hooks on to the Kevlar loops with a thin wire attachment on his back and a thread (Kevlar) attachment for his hands. The stainless steel loops on the main line cut down on wear and friction as the line twists. You could use fishing line swivels in place of the S.S. wire. The leading loop of wire will sit in place at the knot in the line. The Kevlar loops allow flexibility when the ghost goes around the wheels. The thin wire attachment to the ghost's back keeps him from flipping over in strong winds. I had to play around with this system to get it all to work right with running speed and severity of my turns. Until just recently when the monofilament line broke I hadn't had a serious crash in 160 plus hours of running. I did have some minor crashes but never lost the ghost due to a system failure. The recent crash was big, the monofilament line broke leaving the ghost dangling from his back attachment, he traveled around the circuit until he got to a double wheel bracket I have at a corner of the house, he got caught in the bottom wheel which chopped him up like baloney until the system jammed and a neighbor heard the drive belts squealing... not a pretty sight. Denny From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 11:31:25 1996 From: milwiron@btprod.com Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 13:22:22 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Scott Axworthy flying ghost Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com I wrote: >> Good idea using the "Max Brackets", beats the heck out of the monster >> (read- heavy!) Unistrut mounts I built. It's an interesting sight seeing me >> on top of a ladder holding the mount in one hand (barely) and trying to >> drive the first lag screw with a cordless drill with the other. Lots of >> swearing heard 'round my place. ;) Scott wrote: >I'm still laughing from this, I do the same thing! Denny, has me beat on the >industrial strength scale though. Hey Scott, Leave it to Bob, the punk, to come up with the idea of using a hook to hang the bracket on first. All I need to do is drive a big ol' finishing nail part way into the tree in the top hole of the Unistrut. Then next year I hang the bracket on the nail and not break my neck falling off the ladder... and not upset the neighbors with my language. Duh, the thought never entered my mind. I owe you a beer Bob. :) Denny From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 11:35:52 1996 From: milwiron@btprod.com Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 13:26:40 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Corpse skin color? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 10:14 AM 10/21/96 -0700, Scotty wrote: >Denny: > >Skin gets it color from various sources, mostly from the blood circulating >within your skin........ much deleted Aw geez Scott, I was hoping someone would say- just use Rustoleum's Rotting Skin color in a spray can. Denny From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 11:40:39 1996 From: R4M2J1@aol.com Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 14:31:55 -0400 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Scott Axworthy flying ghost Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com In a message dated 96-10-21 14:06:24 EDT, you write: << I've just made a vid-cap of the drive wheel. It's a vid-cap, but you can see everything. If you want me to send you a copy, e-mail me directly (bandrews@inreach.com) instead of posting to the list. >> I just finished working on Trash Can Trauma and I'm thinking about starting on the flying ghosts. Could you send me a copy. Thank you. Dale r4m2j1@aol.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 11:40:56 1996 From: "Bell, Erik H." To: Halloween-L Subject: First order from Denny at Terror by Design Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 13:29:00 -0700 Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hello all you fellow Spooksters, Just recieved my first order from Denny from Terror by Design and all I have to say is WOW! I have been interested in putting up some spider webs this year. Reading all of the posts on this subject made my head a little dizzie. So I ordered Denny's invention for $68 and some other stuff. IMO, don't bother trying to make the shooter or fluid. Denny's shooter is a work of art that functions perfectly. Yet the real star of the system is the fluid. Denny mentioned to me that it took him 8 months to perfect it. And he is an engineer. End Result: The webs are better than any I have ever seen. They look real and feel real and no one on my block could believe that they were fake. One walker steered clear saying "you really ought to call an exterminator before the city finds out about you bug problem". Another suggestion: Order extra fluid. Playing with the shooter will become an obsession. Denny contact me, I want two more quarts before the big day. From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 11:50:09 1996 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 11:33:28 -0700 From: Bob Andrews To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Corpse skin color? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com milwiron@btprod.com wrote: > Aw geez Scott, I was hoping someone would say- just use Rustoleum's Rotting > Skin color in a spray can. > Denny (useless fact) Rustoleum doesn't have a rust color. They sorta do, but they call it Redwood. Bob Andrews bandrews@inreach.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 11:50:37 1996 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 13:42:53 -0500 From: David Kiihne To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: McFly's Haunted Bathroom Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com >>> 10/21/96 10:48am >>> >>>First draft of the effect used flashlight bulbs mounted on the door frame >>>shining at the mask, activated by a pressure-sensitive mat under the bathmat. >>>This gave a nice shadowed effect on the mask, but it was a little too dim and >>>didn't show thorough the two-way mirror well enough. So I wound up putting >>>the light bulbs INSIDE the mask, so it glows from within. >>> >>>I've got a bulb illuminating the forehead and another one in the jaw. I left >>>the eyes deliberately dark...This way, when people peer into the mirror, they >>>see a skeleton face with THEIR OWN EYES reflected looking back at them. >>>Creepy and cool. Ever seen the poster for "Evil Dead II?" Here it is, live! Andy, Sounds like a great effect. Have you thought of turning the mask around and using it as an anti-mask? This would allow the skull to be constantly looking directly at the victim regardless of where they stand (cower). I suspect a common reflex will be to lean to one side or the other to get a better perspective of the apparition and having it follow their movements could really enhance the effect. Although this does return to the problem of insufficient front lighting. Hmmm. Most of my anti-masks are painted with highly-reflective chrome paint; maybe this could help. Anyway, just an idea about combining effects that I thought you might want to consider. Dave - daveki@nebfef.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 12:10:00 1996 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 11:52:12 -0700 From: Bob Andrews To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Scott Axworthy flying ghost Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com > Leave it to Bob, the punk, to come up with the idea of using a hook to hang > the bracket on first. All I need to do is drive a big ol' finishing nail > part way into the tree in the top hole of the Unistrut. Then next year I > hang the bracket on the nail and not break my neck falling off the ladder... > and not upset the neighbors with my language. Duh, the thought never entered > my mind. > I owe you a beer Bob. :) > Denny I'll pass on the beer, but how about a diet Coke? Bob, the punk bandrews@inreach.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 12:10:21 1996 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 96 14:03:30 CDT To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: robdoc@startribune.com (Robyn Dochterman) Subject: Re: Bird with LED eyes Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Yesterday, I used Doug's trick for getting the LED leads through the head of the flying crank ghost, and it worked so well, I could hardly believe it. Now I'm back to thinking I can just do the same with the bird. I did also order a catalogue from a supplier one of you suggested. Here is the name and address if you, too, would like to order a catalogue: DARICE INC. 21160 DRAKE RD. STRONGAVILLE, OH. 44136 800-321-1494 216-238-1314(FAX) BTW, thanks to all of you who offered suggestions or help. --Robyn >> I tried carving the bird out of styrofoam, but couldn't hollow the >> neck (for the wires to the eyes very well. Now I'm thinking about >> making a chicken wire model with a paper mache covering, but I'm not >> sure if this will work either. >> >> Anybody out there already been down this road? Anybody have >> suggestions? I appreciate your ideas and help. Thanks. >I did something like this many years ago and carved it out of >styrofoam, covered it in black feathers, and had it move in response >to a soundtrack. With mine, I didn't have a 'neck', the head >attached directly to the body and gave the bird an interesting look. > >If you are using a neck, just run the wires on the outside of the >body and cover them with feathers. I'd suggest using black wire, >obviously. > >Everything you need for this should be available from your local >Michaels/craft store. > >-Brian > Robyn Dochterman Interactive editor Star Tribune Online Robdoc@startribune.com http://www.startribune.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 12:24:52 1996 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 12:07:32 -0700 From: Bob Andrews To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Scott Axworthy flying ghost (long) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com milwiron@btprod.com wrote: > Hey Bob, > Yup, I used a different method of attachment than what Scotty suggested. I > don't know why... > I have 2 small loops of stainless steel wire hooked over the main line that > I then hang a 6 inch or so long loop of Kevlar line, the ghost then hooks on > to the Kevlar loops with a thin wire attachment on his back and a thread > (Kevlar) attachment for his hands. > > The stainless steel loops on the main line cut down on wear and friction as > the line twists. You could use fishing line swivels in place of the S.S. > wire. The leading loop of wire will sit in place at the knot in the line. > > The Kevlar loops allow flexibility when the ghost goes around the wheels. > > The thin wire attachment to the ghost's back keeps him from flipping over in > strong winds. I'll give this a try. Thanks! > > I had to play around with this system to get it all to work right with > running speed and severity of my turns. Until just recently when the > monofilament line broke I hadn't had a serious crash in 160 plus hours of > running. I did have some minor crashes but never lost the ghost due to a > system failure. > The recent crash was big, the monofilament line broke leaving the ghost > dangling from his back attachment, he traveled around the circuit until he > got to a double wheel bracket I have at a corner of the house, he got caught > in the bottom wheel which chopped him up like baloney until the system > jammed and a neighbor heard the drive belts squealing... not a pretty sight. Sorry to hear about your ghost's passing (repassing?). We just lost a plycostamus..placostomous...plae.. scum sucking bottom feeder from our pond this morning. His name was Newt (after another scum sucking bottom feeder) and we had him for over a year. I burried him in our trash can. The dogs wanted to lick the fishnet. Dogs are gross. Bob From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 12:44:11 1996 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 15:35:21 -0700 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Moon Subject: Re: Glow Stiks!! What to do!? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 12:34 PM 10/21/96 EDT, you wrote: >Hello all, I'm back from vacation, did jy'all miss me? > >Upon return, we found that my sister-in-law left me three cases of 12" glow >sticks (chem sticks). Now I have to figure out what to do with them. Any >suggestions for anything interesting? BTW, they flouresce just fine under >BLB without popping the glass chem tube. > Be careful when doing this! Snap the sticks to illuminate, then cut them open with a rasor, (DON'T GET THIS INTO CUTS!) and then spatter it on your grass or on your clothing, (doesn't hurt either!) Cool! 0=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-0 o Moon o | Fiberopt@pipeline.com | o -Happy Halloween- o | | o "From o to Witch in 2.1 Secconds" o | "Wicca, Its not a new wave of lawn junk" | 0=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-0 From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 12:44:15 1996 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 96 15:37:34 EST From: Stuart McIntire To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re[2]: Corpse skin color? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com >(useless fact) >Rustoleum doesn't have a rust color. They sorta do, but they call it >Redwood. I think Sherwin-Williams has your solution. It's Moldy, Leaf Encrusted, Maggot Infested Bloated Carcass...but they call it Burnt Umber. (Thanks, Bob, for the inspir- ation! ;) - Evil Doc From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 13:11:46 1996 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 96 16:00:57 EST From: Stuart McIntire To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: CatalogMania Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Here's another catalog for you, thanks to a co-worker who is very much into Renaissance Fairs - these are quality pieces that can run up the $$$, but if realism is what you're after, there are worse places to start. This source is mainly for weapons and armor (there are great suits of armor in this cat- alog, Denny and Scott!)... Museum Replicas Limited (a division of Atlanta Cutlery Corp.) 2143 Gees Mill Road Box 840 Conyers, GA 30207 Toll Free: 1(800)883-8838 - Stu stuart.mcintire@uage.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 13:21:22 1996 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 13:06:51 -0700 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Greg Hope Subject: Craig's page! Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com >CyberImage- Custom Caps, Shirts & Color ID Badges...GREAT HALLOWEEN >SHIRTS & CAPS! >http://www.intrlink.com/~cyber >Be Sure to Visit Our Halloween Page at: >http://www.intrlink.com/~cyber/halloween > Craig, I just visited your web page and I want to compliment you on all the time and effort you put into it. Your projects look great and I think it's fantastic that you have posted "in progress" pictures. Will you tell the rest of us more about Mr. Bones when you have time? Thanks for a great page! Greg H (619)945-4424 F (619)726-2804 E ghope@mailhost.csusm.edu From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 13:51:34 1996 Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 10:41:16 -0700 From: Mike Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Glow Stiks!! What to do!? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com We used glow sticks last year for a boiling cauldron! We had a stump with a ax in it and a large plastic cauldron sitting on its side. Then we cut a small hole in the bottom and put in a drip system hose. Then we put in a couple of pieces of dry ice and a glow stick. Turn on the water and you have a constant flowing cauldron. The smoke flows over with the water and the glow stick gives it a great looke!! We are going to do it again this year, but we want to try red glow sticks to see if it can look like blood! Kathy the new kid on the crypt mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 13:53:23 1996 Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 10:45:00 -0700 From: Mike Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Protect your haunt Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Craig, Craig and all have the right idea. We have someone at all times sleeping in our motorhome out in front after we put all the props up. These people go in and out so if they are watching they are never sure when someone may pop out. We also have all the neighbors anxious for it to be done so they watch our house whenever they see any movement after dark. Using the neighborhood as watch dogs works really well!! Kathy From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 14:03:46 1996 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 13:45:17 -0700 From: Bob Andrews To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Blue and green fluorescent spray paint Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com I've probably waited too long for this, but where can I find Blue and green fluorescent spray paint? All I can find is Yellow, Orange, and (gasp) Shocking Pink. I don't want a pink ghost. Bob Andrews bandrews@inreach.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 14:32:10 1996 From: Scott Axworthy Subject: Re: Scott Axworthy flying ghost To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 14:20:07 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Denny: Bob: milwiron@btprod.com writes: > ...bunches deleted... > Hey Scott, > Leave it to Bob, the punk, to come up with the idea of using a hook to hang > the bracket on first. All I need to do is drive a big ol' finishing nail > part way into the tree in the top hole of the Unistrut. Then next year I > hang the bracket on the nail and not break my neck falling off the ladder... > and not upset the neighbors with my language. Duh, the thought never entered > my mind. > I owe you a beer Bob. :) Make that two! This does take some of the sport out of it. -Scott -- Scott Axworthy Phone: 206-649-7668 Cascade Design Automation Fax: 206-649-7600 scott@cdac.com http://www.cdac.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 14:32:15 1996 From: Scott Axworthy Subject: Re: Corpse skin color? To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 14:24:31 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Denny: milwiron@btprod.com writes: > > Aw geez Scott, I was hoping someone would say- just use Rustoleum's Rotting > Skin color in a spray can. Sorry, here it is: Hammerite, Two Year Rotted Flesh Spray, #165433, 12oz. Spray can. (No priming needed) :=) -Scott -- Scott Axworthy Phone: 206-649-7668 Cascade Design Automation Fax: 206-649-7600 scott@cdac.com http://www.cdac.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 14:40:52 1996 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 14:30:00 -0700 From: rleach@porky.West.Sun.COM (Roy Leach) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Protect your haunt Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Lets see... If you could put a wheel on the outside of your house and another on the motorhome, you could run a thin wire between the two and hang a dummy on the wire so it would appear to go back and forth.... Why do I think I've heard of this before? /8) roy. > From: Mike Marcrum > X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; U) > To: halloween-l@netcom.com > Subject: Protect your haunt > References: <9609218459.AA845914838@ccsmtp.uage.com> <326BB883.7B6@intrlink.com> > Sender: owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com > Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com > > Craig, > Craig and all have the right idea. We have someone at all times > sleeping in our motorhome out in front after we put all the props up. > These people go in and out so if they are watching they are never sure > when someone may pop out. We also have all the neighbors anxious for it > to be done so they watch our house whenever they see any movement after > dark. Using the neighborhood as watch dogs works really well!! > Kathy From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 14:52:26 1996 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 14:36:29 -0700 From: rleach@pongo.West.Sun.COM (Roy Leach) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Strobe Light / Color Organ Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com ALL Electronics has 'em. I think they're about 4 bucks for a complete 2 channel unit. http://www.allcorp.com/ roy. > From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Oct 18 22:36 PDT 1996 > Return-Path: > From: RADRAY5@aol.com > Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 01:18:11 -0400 > To: halloween-l@netcom.com > Subject: Re: Strobe Light / Color Organ > Sender: owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com > Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com > > I found one place that sells color organs. I found it on the web, I forgot > the URL but if you do a search on the name, you will find it. > Centerpoint Electronics > 5241 Lincoln ave. > Cypress, CA 90630 > 1-800-422-1100 > > One Channel Color Organ Kit $9.75 > > Chris > From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 14:59:31 1996 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 14:44:59 -0700 From: rleach@pongo.West.Sun.COM (Roy Leach) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Washer Solenoids Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Weel, I got my hands on a washing machine water control unit ($10) that has two solenoids. My problem is that if I hook it up backwards to control 2 effects, the air just blasts right through. If I hook it up properly, the unit works great, but I can only use one of the solenoids. There was mention of using the units backwards on the list a while ago, so I'm curious how it's done? Thanks! roy. From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 15:06:39 1996 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 96 16:58:48 CDT To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: robdoc@startribune.com (Robyn Dochterman) Subject: Re: Blue and green fluorescent spray paint Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hi Bob, I found Blue at a costume and theater shop, and green at a Target store, but I looked all over the place to find both these colors. Yellow seems to be the most common, and, as you've discovered, pink is popular too. >I've probably waited too long for this, but where can I find Blue and >green fluorescent spray paint? All I can find is Yellow, Orange, and >(gasp) Shocking Pink. > >I don't want a pink ghost. > >Bob Andrews >bandrews@inreach.com > Robyn Dochterman Interactive editor Star Tribune Online Robdoc@startribune.com http://www.startribune.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 15:16:06 1996 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 14:53:47 -0700 From: rleach@pongo.West.Sun.COM (Roy Leach) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Incredible fog maker! Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com We build a home brew fog maker based on the info in the archives and with a few modifications, we can create a good stream of fog CONSTANTLY! We used 6 feet of 1/8" copper tubing wrapped around a 500 watt BBQ igniter (a heating element that gets red hot to light charcoal). The whole thing cost about $25. We're using home brewed fog juice from 20% glycerin to 80% distilled water. Based on some inital estimates, it looks like we should go through a cup of juice per hour. Now, just have to build a few more! Also, our Jacobs ladder got a re-vamp and is now 3' tall. Just have to build a plexi-glass box and mount it to the wall so it won't fall over. There's a .avi file on our web page: http://home.earthlink.net/~tickler/ roy. From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 15:17:31 1996 From: DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 17:04:49 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Blue and green fluorescent spray paint To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com >All I can find is Yellow, Orange, and (gasp) Shocking Pink. Well, if you get in a real pinch, yellow fluoresces awfully close to the way green does, if we're talking the hardware store spray can variety. If you can't find green, yellow will probably come close for you. Keep looking, because blue is not that uncommon in hardware stores where I live. When painting your ghost, by the way, stay with flame-like running streaks of the lighter color over a solid base of the other - I use green over blue, and I love the results. YMMV, of course. -Doug *********************************************************************** * Safety, Courtesy, Show and Efficiency: * Doug Ferguson * * The Keys To The Kingdom * dwfww@jazz.ucc.uno.edu * *********************************************************************** From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 15:19:52 1996 From: DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 17:09:38 -0600 (CST) Subject: Leaping Loafer .jpg available To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Larry Lund asked me to announce that I now have a .jpg collage of details and action shots of the Leaping Loafer designed by Carl Chetta. I will send a copy to Don Bertino, but if you are in a real hurry, E-mail me (_privately_ please!) and I will send it along in either MIME or UUE. Please specify which you prefer. -Doug *********************************************************************** * Safety, Courtesy, Show and Efficiency: * Doug Ferguson * * The Keys To The Kingdom * dwfww@jazz.ucc.uno.edu * *********************************************************************** From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 15:38:13 1996 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 96 15:23:29 PST From: "Sparks, Doug" To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re[2]: L.E.D's Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com OK one question regarding this: How do we hook up the resistor in a 2 red LED example using a 9 volt battery? Right now the two LED's are wired together, with one long pole matching the short pole on the other. The two ends outside of these are soldered to leads to go the 9 volt. A resistor was mentioned by a friend, but he has no idea what to do with it either. Doug Sparks dsparks@ligand.com (clueless in electronics) ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: L.E.D's Author: halloween-l@netcom.com at gateway Date: 10/18/96 7:59 AM For 2 Red L.E.D.'s on a 12V supply, use a 560 Ohm resistor [or: 1.8 x 2 in series = 3.6 V of Red L.E.D.'s, so... (12-3.6) / .015 = 560 Ohm or 560 Ohm ballast required] For 2 Red L.E.D.'s on a 9V supply, use a 360 Ohm resistor For 2 Red L.E.D.'s on a 6V supply, use a 160 Ohm resistor From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 15:44:41 1996 From: DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 17:36:28 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Re[2]: L.E.D's To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com >How do we hook up the resistor in a 2 red LED example... Connect the resistor between a chosen battery terminal (either will do) and the appropriate lead on the LED pair. If it doesn't light, you just have the polarity reversed. Easy to fix. In clearer terms, wire the resistor in series with the pair, as if it were a third LED. Resistors are, of course, non-polar. Do NOT use the resistor to short the battery, which would constitute parallel. Does this help? -Doug *********************************************************************** * Safety, Courtesy, Show and Efficiency: * Doug Ferguson * * The Keys To The Kingdom * dwfww@jazz.ucc.uno.edu * *********************************************************************** From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 16:28:00 1996 From: glenn@zuni.chaco.com (Glenn Crocker) Subject: Re: Re[2]: L.E.D's To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 16:14:15 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com >>How do we hook up the resistor in a 2 red LED example... > >Connect the resistor between a chosen battery terminal (either will do) >and the appropriate lead on the LED pair. If it doesn't light, you >just have the polarity reversed. Easy to fix. > >In clearer terms, wire the resistor in series with the pair, as if it >were a third LED. Resistors are, of course, non-polar. Do NOT use >the resistor to short the battery, which would constitute parallel. By the way, if you connect things accidentally without the resistor, the LED will be VERY bright, but not glow for very long, and only glow once. ;-) I've build 5 of these little LED setups, and they're great! I put them around in my bushes, and it's probably the scariest thing in my yard so far this year. I also put 'em in the skull of a plastic skeleton, and it looks great, too. I definitely recommend this easy project for anyone with a bit of electronics curiosity. You could probably build them without even using solder. -glenn From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 16:36:18 1996 From: milwiron@btprod.com Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 18:10:23 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Banter/Corpse skin color? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 02:24 PM 10/21/96 -0700, you wrote: >Denny: > >milwiron@btprod.com writes: >> Aw geez Scott, I was hoping someone would say- just use Rustoleum's Rotting >> Skin color in a spray can. >Sorry, here it is: >Hammerite, Two Year Rotted Flesh Spray, #165433, 12oz. Spray can. >(No priming needed) >-Scott Yo Scotty, What the heck does a Burnt Umber look like anyhow? I don't think I've ever seen an Umber before or after it was burnt. I'm goin' back to the land of epicycloidal gearing where I'm safe and secure. ;) Denny From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 16:53:38 1996 From: JeanniSkip@aol.com Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 19:43:49 -0400 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Thanks Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com In a message dated 96-10-21 08:01:28 EDT, you write: << I just wanted to take this opportunity before things get even more insane to thank everybody on the list. Even if it weren't for the incredible information and assistance I've received from you people, I'd have enjoyed this list just for the humour. >> DITTO!!! I couldn't say it any better... I almost hate for Halloween to get here - I'm going to miss these daily laughs!!! I can't tell you all how often I laugh out loud while catching up on the days mail...is it me, or do we all have an *odd* sense of humor, too.... (Denny and Stu have me howling most of the time - thanks, guys ;D) Yesterday I steadied the ladder while my husband climbed up on the roof with his version of Scott's bicycle rim ghost contraption in one hand, teetering precariously and cursing (at me no doubt), wondering what I ever got him into--- so today's posts just cracked me up -- you experienced guys make everything sound so simple and trouble-free.... Thanks also to everyone who has responded to my posts with suggestions--I often don't thank each of you personally, but please know that I have appreciated every bit of advice offered (and have used many of your ideas, too). Jeanni From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 17:19:09 1996 Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 20:13:21 -0400 From: Tony Arcand To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: WOW! Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hello, My name is Tony Arcand and I live in New Hampshire. I just recently subscribed to this mailing list. I CAN'T BELIEVE IT!! I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE!! It is great to see a lot of other people doing up their yards for Halloween. I could never understand why I was the only one. I;m looking forward to sharing ideas and hints for future Halloweens. However, this year is going to top them all!! HALLOWEEN IN NEW ENGLAND! You can't get any better Tony Arcand From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 17:36:26 1996 From: Scott Axworthy Subject: Re: Banter/Corpse skin color? To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 17:28:11 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Denny: milwiron@btprod.com writes: > > Yo Scotty, > What the heck does a Burnt Umber look like anyhow? I don't think I've ever > seen an Umber before or after it was burnt. > I'm goin' back to the land of epicycloidal gearing where I'm safe and secure. ;) A burnt umber is a disgusting sight. There is a major burn center here in Seattle so we see a lot of these. Good survival rate though. -Scott (I think we've kicked this one enough now. :) -- Scott Axworthy Phone: 206-649-7668 Cascade Design Automation Fax: 206-649-7600 scott@cdac.com http://www.cdac.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 17:41:40 1996 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 20:24:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Lund To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Leaping Loafer .jpg available Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com On Mon, 21 Oct 1996 DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu wrote: > > Larry Lund asked me to announce that I now have a .jpg collage of details > and action shots of the Leaping Loafer designed by Carl Chetta. I will send > a copy to Don Bertino, but if you are in a real hurry, E-mail me (_privately_ > please!) and I will send it along in either MIME or UUE. Please specify > which you prefer. > > -Doug I just sent out my first try at a home page, and the JPG is on it at the following URL: http://members.aol.com/llund179/lloafer.jpg To visit my home page use: http://members.aol.com/llund179/home.htm This is my first try at HTML so give me a break. Larry _ ___c Lawrence H. Lund \ _| \_ 179 Studley Street __\_| oooo \_____ Brentwood, NY 11717 ~~~~|______________/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ E-mail: llund@suffolk.lib.ny.us llund179@aol.com Phone: (516)-231-8790 Fax: (516)-434-9315 From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 17:48:39 1996 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 19:41:42 -0500 (CDT) To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: DJ Subject: Re: WOW! Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 08:13 PM 9/28/95 -0400, Tony wrote: >I CAN'T BELIEVE IT!! I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE!! Hi, Tony! LOL! Your first post sounds a lot like mine did. I used to think I was the only one, too, and lookie here! There's several hearse-fulls of us! Ain't it great? Welcome to the list. We'd love to know more about what you're doing this year for the big night. And what you did last year. And before. We love sharing ideas! One word of advice; if you haven't read the archives, check'em out. I spent two solid days reading them and got a lot of inspiration. Hope you'll stay around after October 31. I know I plan to. Heck, I'm already planning *next* halloween! Regards, DJ, who's always glad to see another ghoul in the graveyard From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 18:13:22 1996 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 21:03:57 -0400 (EDT) To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Denny Kennedy Subject: My Haunted House Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com I have drawn up a map and key of the haunted house which I do every year on my front porch. If anyone would like to see it please Email me privately. I would love for someone to take a look at it and offer some suggestions/critiques/comments. Please Email me at maryjane@sundial.net. Thanks! Denny Kennedy maryjane@sundial.net From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 18:30:17 1996 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 17:52:57 -0700 From: Joyce Gair To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: mummified cat Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com We lost our very loved cat just this way ;.( . The spinal damage was so bad I will never forget how he looked or cried. The vet said this is a very common accident. We adopted to new kitties 4 yrs ago and they will never be outside because of this. Our lost cat was all black with green eyes and he would be out there with the best of them on halloween night. Joyce in Spokane igabalot@worldnet.att.net Greg Hope wrote: snip > > > When we all reached the house, there was half a cat protruding from the top > of the closed garage door. It didn't get chopped, but was simply caught in > this position and apparently perished there. > From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 18:59:24 1996 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 21:51:12 -0400 (EDT) To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Denny Kennedy Subject: Posting a picture Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com I was just wondering something about this list's etiquette(sp?). Would it be improper to attach a .jpg file to a letter and send it to the list? I have a .jpg file that is a plan for my haunted house which I put together every year. Thanks, Denny Kennedy From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 19:21:50 1996 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 20:33:56 -0700 From: Greywolf To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: WOW! Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com DJ wrote: > > At 08:13 PM 9/28/95 -0400, Tony wrote: > > >I CAN'T BELIEVE IT!! I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE!! > > Hi, Tony! > > LOL! Your first post sounds a lot like mine did. I used to think I was the > only one, too, and lookie here! There's several hearse-fulls of us! >SNIP I agree.. I know we are hot & heavy into planning and building for Saturday 10/26 and don't have as much time as we'd like to study all the great ideas, but we've got a lot of plans for next year alsready.. thanks to all of you!! I will try to post after the madness dies down.. We've been at this since 1983 and really thought we too were the only crazies out there. We get bigger and more ideas every year - had some real flops too! Will tell all soon I hope! Happy Building and Haunting!! Greywolf From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 19:36:21 1996 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 19:20:27 -0700 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Greg Hope Subject: Re: mummified cat Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com >We lost our very loved cat just this way ... Joyce, I'm sorry to have reminded you of the loss of your pet. I certainly don't take any pleasure in the suffering of an animal or its family, the story of the mummified cat just brought the episode to mind. A guilty ghoul, Greg H (619)945-4424 F (619)726-2804 E ghope@mailhost.csusm.edu From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 19:50:25 1996 From: cheese@adstone.com Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 21:31:30 -0500 Subject: Washer Solenoids To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com HA>Weel, I got my hands on a washing machine water control unit ($10) that HA>has two solenoids. My problem is that if I hook it up backwards to control HA>2 effects, the air just blasts right through. If I hook it up properly, the HA>unit works great, but I can only use one of the solenoids. There was mentio HA>of using the units backwards on the list a while ago, so I'm curious how it' HA>done? HA>Thanks! HA>roy ROY, Your using to much air, & WHY? can you only use one of the solenoids?? If the valve is defective get another, or use one but tee it off Do not wire it in series or you will only get 60 volts to each one. .Carl Chetta From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 20:31:52 1996 From: cloudy@wolfenet.com Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 20:24:37 -0700 (PDT) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: can it be done? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hi, I'm new to this list! Its so cool to know there's other people who love Halloween as much as I do! My husband built the fog machine from the instructions on the archives too, and now we have 2-a small one for inside and a higher-powered one, "Mr. Foggy" made from a Mr Coffee that really pumps it out! We're doing a version of the flying ghost as well, except with a grim reaper with flashing eyes. I like to keep him busy. :> ANYWAY, sorry to ramble on..I was looking for something to make a pumpkin last longer after you carve it. I want to have a major display but they only last about 3 days. Anyone have any ideas? I would appreciate any suggestions!! thanks Colleen From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 20:32:57 1996 From: cloudy@wolfenet.com Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 20:27:33 -0700 (PDT) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: mummified cat Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com I'm very sorry to hear about your cat. I have five and they are a very special part of our family. They always have carried the essence of Halloween for me.. Colleen >We lost our very loved cat just this way ;.( . The spinal damage was so >bad I will never forget how he looked or cried. The vet said this is a >very common accident. We adopted to new kitties 4 yrs ago and they will >never be outside because of this. > >Our lost cat was all black with green eyes and he would be out there >with the best of them on halloween night. > >Joyce in Spokane >igabalot@worldnet.att.net > >Greg Hope wrote: snip >> > >> >> When we all reached the house, there was half a cat protruding from the top >> of the closed garage door. It didn't get chopped, but was simply caught in >> this position and apparently perished there. >> > From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 21:14:16 1996 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 21:07:19 -0700 From: Neil and Debbie Faber To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: RE: Man-eating Plant Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hi-I'm Debbie Faber and I need some help from you guys who've been at this a while. I am extremely mechanically and electronically challenged, but find myself putting together a haunted house in spite of it all. My specific challenge right now is the creation of a man-eating plant (ala Little Shop of Horrors). Many thanks to Scott Axworthy for his description of an insulating foam skeleton. I have managed to create a lovely 2'x2.5' pod in two sections (upper and lower) using chicken wire, wax paper and this wonderful foam (a little acrylic paint made it a work of art). So now what? I've considered making this a costume--sewing a person sized stem, with the pod worn on the head, but I'm not sure how this person would operate the opening and closing of the mouth for the "man-eating" part. I guess it could be a puppet, but I wouldn't know where to start. So here's where I was hoping I could get some ideas from this very creative bunch (maybe in between setup for your own haunts). Anyway, if anyone has an idea, please let me know. Thanks much. Debbie From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 21:18:56 1996 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 21:05:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Dave Bell To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Washer Solenoids Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com > HA>has two solenoids. My problem is that if I hook it up backwards to control > HA>2 effects, the air just blasts right through. > HA>works great, but I can only use one of the solenoids. > HA>roy > ROY, > Your using to much air, & > WHY? can you only use one of the solenoids?? > If the valve is defective get > another, or use one but tee it off > .Carl Chetta I ram into the same problem, Carl. Possibly some valves are designed differently, but these are GE or Whirlpool paired valves, where the hot and cold are mixed after passing through the solenoid valves, and exit a single tubing fitting. If I put even 25 psi (probably less) on the OUTLET, the valves just push open and air flows out both inlets. If we put pressure on the INLET, the valve works fine, but of course there is only one outlet, so only one effect can be powered. The, we need to cap off the unused inlet, so the working pressure on the outlet side doesn't just blow off through the unused inlet. Might as well just buy or scrounge single supply valves, like tose in dishwashers... Dave From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 21:40:57 1996 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 21:27:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Dave Bell To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: can it be done? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com > Hi, > I'm new to this list! Welcome, Colleen! As you can see if you've been watching the traffic, there are lot of us Halloween nuts out here... > and a higher-powered one, "Mr. Foggy" made from a Mr Coffee that really > pumps it out! A Mr. WHAT?!? What a cool idea! All this time we've been building the damned things from heater rods and soldering irons and such, and we could have been buying used coffee makers at the thrift shop!!!! How well does it work? Go through a lot of fluid, or can you throttle it back somehow? Making your own fog juice, or buying commercial? Hmm - I was assuming you were using the normal flash boiler (which would consume a "pot" of fluid in 5 minutes.) Maybe you are just dripping the juice onto the warmer plate? Please tell us more! Dave From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 21:45:40 1996 From: "Chris Howard " To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 21:46:22 +0000 Subject: haunts in Atlanta Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com This is a public service announcement for you "halloweeners" living in GA. These are all the professional haunts that I have heard of in Atlanta this year: Blood Oaks Haunted House Sponsored by the Snellville Jaycees- supposedly just 6 rooms. Goes on every night from now til Halloween. Cost $6.97. Location: US 78 near the Wal-Mart Shopping Center. 770-985-6697 The Chambers of Terror Haunted House Has nine rooms and mazes. They weren't real clear about operating hours. Cost $10.00. Location: Ronald Reagan Parkway at Five Forks Trickum Road and follow searchlights (Lawrenceville) 770-649-9624 Haunted House of Boos It's in the House of Blues across from Centennial Olympic Park on Techwood Drive. 7-11 Mondays- Thursdays; 7-1 Saturdays and Sundays through October 31. Cost? 404-577-5341 House of Little Horrors Family- type Haunted House (ie not scary). Cost 6$, under 3 and grandparents free, 55 Atlanta Street, Marietta. 770-419-0088 Six Flags Over Georgia Standard Six Flags Halloween stuff.. You have to buy a ticket to get in the park to see this- $32 for a one day ticket. Off I-20 at the Six Flags Exit. 770-739-3440 Tom Savini's Nightmare Haunted House This one is run by a horror special effects expert and sponsored by 99X. Nightly until October 31. Cost $12. Location: 450 Interstate North Parkway, I-285 at Powers Ferry Road and follow the signs. 770-953-9914 Is anyone out there (like you Jack or Freya) interested in getting together and going to one of these with me and my husband? Chris Howard -- Chris Howard lhoward@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~lhoward/ "Humans live best when each has his place to stand, when each knows where he belongs in the scheme of things and what he may achive. Destroy the place and you destroy the person." -Bene Gesserit teaching From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 22:06:48 1996 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 21:49:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Dave Bell To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: RE: Man-eating Plant Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Debbie Faber wrote about her "Audrey II" project: > I've considered making this a costume--sewing a person sized stem, with > the pod worn on the head, but I'm not sure how this person would operate > the opening and closing of the mouth for the "man-eating" part. Since there isn't too much need for the actor to use his (or the plant's!) arms, one arm tucked inside the torso could pul a cable to operate the jaws... Dave From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 23:10:55 1996 From: cloudy@wolfenet.com Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 23:02:45 -0700 (PDT) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: can it be done? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com >Hi, Dave: We bought the glycerin and are making our own fog juice. You regulate the amount of flow into the boiler with a needle valve which allows (depending on wattage the unit-ours is 975w but now reduced to about 6-700w with an industrial reostat) the solution to completely evaporate to steam (rather just boiling). Since its metered down its just a steady drip of the juice. A guesstimate is about a quart an hour for a good, thick, fog. Can get the brass metering valve at a pet store (not a ball valve) and the reostat? I dunno. This sounds pretty technical to me, I just ask him to make the stuff and a mad scientist has emerged. Clear as mud?? I hope this helps--if not I' will have Jeff sit down and write it down--but this is what he explained to me. Colleen > >> Hi, >> I'm new to this list! > >Welcome, Colleen! As you can see if you've been watching the traffic, >there are lot of us Halloween nuts out here... > >> and a higher-powered one, "Mr. Foggy" made from a Mr Coffee that really >> pumps it out! > >A Mr. WHAT?!? What a cool idea! All this time we've been building the >damned things from heater rods and soldering irons and such, and we >could have been buying used coffee makers at the thrift shop!!!! > >How well does it work? Go through a lot of fluid, or can you >throttle it back somehow? Making your own fog juice, or buying >commercial? Hmm - I was assuming you were using the normal >flash boiler (which would consume a "pot" of fluid in 5 minutes.) >Maybe you are just dripping the juice onto the warmer plate? > >Please tell us more! > >Dave > From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 23:16:33 1996 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: mummified cat From: mail2pj@juno.com (Phyllis J Persun) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 01:30:11 EDT Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com >Our lost cat was all black with green eyes and he would be out there >with the best of them on halloween night. What's all this past tense talk? You should keep an eye out for your cat on Halloween, anyway! Ghost cats, especially black ones, don't seem to be too uncommon ... PJ From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 21 23:39:04 1996 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 23:35:15 -0700 From: Joyce Gair To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: simple skelton graphic wanted + idea Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hi friends, I am looking for a very simple coloring book type drawing of a skelton that I can enlarge, printout and cut out *easily*... any known out on the web or ? also I found a drawing of two cute simple pumpkins out on the web, bought orange paper, then imported the design into my Print Artist program,enlarged it and bingo ... I've got big orange pumpkins easy to cut out that I'll stick all over the house. I bought the blank orange paper at "Mailbox etc" for 3 cents each sheet. The paper is 8 1/2" x 11" Also I took this same idea with one simple outline cute pumpkin design and then underneath the pumpkin I typed in the font "dracula" red ink (so the letters are dripping blood) "Hi Tamra" and I will make one for "each expected" guest and stick them around the house. I think especially the kids will get a kick out of this and I will let them take them home. ps, Greg ... your the best no offensive taken about cat. :-) ...love your ideas Joyce in Spokane, WA igabalot@worldnet.att.net From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 22 01:30:55 1996 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: mummified cat From: mail2pj@juno.com (Phyllis J Persun) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 01:42:26 EDT Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com >>We lost our very loved cat just this way ;.( . The spinal damage was >so >>bad I will never forget how he looked or cried. The vet said this is >a >>very common accident. We adopted to new kitties 4 yrs ago and they >will >>never be outside because of this. >> >>Our lost cat was all black with green eyes and he would be out there >>with the best of them on halloween night. >> >>Joyce in Spokane >>igabalot@worldnet.att.net Just a note: I wasn't trying to inconsiderate or anything with my comment. We have several cats, and I know how it feels when one dies. I'm sorry about what happened to your cat, and that you had to see it. Glad you got the new kittens, though! From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 22 03:35:43 1996 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 96 06:30:19 EDT To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Bill Lewis Subject: Re: Thanks Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 07:43 PM 10/21/96 -0400, you wrote: >In a message dated 96-10-21 08:01:28 EDT, you write: >I almost hate for Halloween to get here - I'm going to miss these daily >laughs!!! I can't tell you all how often I laugh out loud while catching up >on the days mail...is it me, or do we all have an *odd* sense of humor, This list doesn't go away after halloween. Unless you do. Bill Lewis NSWC Carderock Division Code 6060 (301) 227-2742 lewisw@oasys.dt.navy.mil lewisb@erols.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 22 04:49:40 1996 From: milwiron@btprod.com Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 06:38:10 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Incredible fog maker! Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 02:53 PM 10/21/96 -0700, you wrote: >We build a home brew fog maker based on the info in the archives and with a >few modifications, we can create a good stream of fog CONSTANTLY! We used 6 >feet of 1/8" copper tubing wrapped around a 500 watt BBQ igniter (a heating >element that gets red hot to light charcoal). The whole thing cost about $25. >We're using home brewed fog juice from 20% glycerin to 80% distilled water. >Based on some inital estimates, it looks like we should go through a cup of >juice per hour. Now, just have to build a few more! Hi Roy, It may be a nice idea to let the list know what kind of safety considerations you've made on your fogger as far as thermostats, insulation, shielding, thermal fuses etc. I know I would appreciate seeing improvements on the safety aspect above and beyond my original instructions. Folks that may not have your ability and knowledge could be taking serious risks building a similar unit with a 1,100 F. heat source. People should also be made aware that many woods and fabrics will ignite at a little over half of that temperature. Denny B.T. Productions' Terror By Design Haunt Supplies & Scare Wares From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 22 05:41:21 1996 From: ALLAN DAVID Date: Tue, 22 Oct 96 08:31:46 -0400 Subject: RE: can it be done? To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com I, too, would like to see a more detailed description of how to do this. After my initial attempt with an underpowered and ill-shaped heating element, I resigned myself to buying a commercial unit someday. But, if you can retrofit an old coffee maker.... These can be had very cheaply. Thanks in advance, David dallan@dow.com - ---------- From: cloudy@wolfenet.com[SMTP:cloudy@wolfenet.com] Sent: Monday, October 21, 1996 7:02 PM To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: can it be done? >Hi, Dave: We bought the glycerin and are making our own fog juice. You regulate the amount of flow into the boiler with a needle valve which allows (depending on wattage the unit-ours is 975w but now reduced to about 6-700w with an industrial reostat) the solution to completely evaporate to steam (rather just boiling). Since its metered down its just a steady drip of the juice. A guesstimate is about a quart an hour for a good, thick, fog. Can get the brass metering valve at a pet store (not a ball valve) and the reostat? I dunno. This sounds pretty technical to me, I just ask him to make the stuff and a mad scientist has emerged. Clear as mud?? I hope this helps--if not I' will have Jeff sit down and write it down--but this is what he explained to me. Colleen > >> Hi, >> I'm new to this list! > >Welcome, Colleen! As you can see if you've been watching the traffic, >there are lot of us Halloween nuts out here... > >> and a higher-powered one, "Mr. Foggy" made from a Mr Coffee that really >> pumps it out! > >A Mr. WHAT?!? What a cool idea! All this time we've been building the >damned things from heater rods and soldering irons and such, and we >could have been buying used coffee makers at the thrift shop!!!! > >How well does it work? Go through a lot of fluid, or can you >throttle it back somehow? Making your own fog juice, or buying >commercial? Hmm - I was assuming you were using the normal >flash boiler (which would consume a "pot" of fluid in 5 minutes.) >Maybe you are just dripping the juice onto the warmer plate? > >Please tell us more! > >Dave > From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 22 06:39:37 1996 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 03:32:07 -0700 From: Mike Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: fluorescent paint Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hi Ghouls, I am sure none of you need to know how many days are left till the big day!!! SSCCRRREEEEAAAAMMMMM!!!! Where has the time gone? I went to a friends last night to drop off the costumes I made for his kids and he was doing something so simple and yet so neat that I can't believe I did not think of it. Went to stores and found large pieces of cardboard. Painted them matte black, and then with fluorescent paint painted trees with eyes, ghosts, and ghouls!! He turned off the lights and turned on the black light and wow the effect was great!! And Simple, and Cheap!!! I am cardboard shopping today!! Thats me you see with her feet sticking out of the dumpsters.....I fell in :) Kathy From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 22 06:49:20 1996 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 09:39:32 From: JBKadel@gnn.com (Jim Kadel) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: can it be done? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Colleen wrote, in part, while describing a home made smoke generator built from a "Mr. Coffee" machine: ================================================ >and the reostat? I dunno In support of "do it yourself-ers": I'd mention that an industrial rheostat is not required. The easily found "lamp dimmers" will do. Wattage rating of dimmer must be equal to or