higher than "Mr. Coffee" machine, and the standard 1000 watt dimmer would control either machine described. ***************************************** Jim Kadel (JBKadel@gnn.com) soul producer of "Haunted Porch" ***************************************** From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 22 07:07:50 1996 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 03:58:17 -0700 From: Mike Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: mummified cat Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Last thought on this line for me. We had a wonderful all black green eyed cat. On Halloween three years ago she disapearred!! Later some of the kids in the school with my daughter told her that a certain group of a ethnic nature took the cat and used her for a sacrifice!! NO LIE!! We called the cops but they said that this group believes this and they can't tell them that it is wrong in this country....No more black cats in this house. As for the kids ( 18-20 in age) My daughter and her friends took care of them. Kathy The new kid on the crypt From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 22 07:21:41 1996 From: cheese@adstone.com Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 09:53:46 -0500 Subject: Re: Washer Solenoids To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com HA>> HA>has two solenoids. My problem is that if I hook it up backwards to con HA>> HA>2 effects, the air just blasts right through. HA>> HA>works great, but I can only use one of the solenoids. HA>> HA>roy HA>> ROY, HA>> Your using to much air, & HA>> WHY? can you only use one of the solenoids?? HA>> If the valve is defective get HA>> another, or use one but tee it off HA>> .Carl Chetta HA>I ram into the same problem, Carl. Possibly some valves are designed HA>differently, but these are GE or Whirlpool paired valves, where the HA>hot and cold are mixed after passing through the solenoid valves, HA>and exit a single tubing fitting. If I put even 25 psi (probably HA>less) on the OUTLET, the valves just push open and air flows out HA>both inlets. If we put pressure on the INLET, the valve works fine, HA>but of course there is only one outlet, so only one effect can HA>be powered. The, we need to cap off the unused inlet, so the working HA>pressure on the outlet side doesn't just blow off through the unused HA>inlet. Might as well just buy or scrounge single supply valves, like HA>tose in dishwashers... HA>Dave NO , not at all dishwashers valves are to small and dont allow enough air out' use a plastic soda bottle cap to cap off the other side it works great. I dont hook it up backwards. Carl Chetta From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 22 07:31:48 1996 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 10:25:34 -0400 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: kahnn@pa.net (Nathan Kahn) Subject: home made fog Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Those of you making home-made fog, keep in mind that your fog will not be as safe to breathe as store-bought machine/fluid combinations. Outdoor use should be fine though. Glycerin begins to decompose and give off toxic byproducts at around 600F. If your fog is for an inside party, keep the temperature of the heat exchanger to 500F or lower to be safe. (You may have to lower the glycerin to water ratio to make fog at this temperature, but the fog will be safer to breathe.) :Nathan ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Nathan Kahn Home: kahnn@pa.net Work: nathan@theatrefx.com Work Web: http://www.theatrefx.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 22 07:32:06 1996 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 10:25:31 -0400 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: kahnn@pa.net (Nathan Kahn) Subject: Re: Incredible fog maker! Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com >We build a home brew fog maker based on the info in the archives and with a >few modifications, we can create a good stream of fog CONSTANTLY! We used 6 >feet of 1/8" copper tubing wrapped around a 500 watt BBQ igniter (a heating >element that gets red hot to light charcoal). The whole thing cost about $25. >We're using home brewed fog juice from 20% glycerin to 80% distilled water. >Based on some inital estimates, it looks like we should go through a cup of >juice per hour. Now, just have to build a few more! Are people breathing this fog, or is it outside? Be careful because glycerin gives off toxic byproducts at high temperatures. If you stay under 500F you should be okay. :Nathan ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Nathan Kahn Home: kahnn@pa.net Work: nathan@theatrefx.com Work Web: http://www.theatrefx.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 22 07:40:04 1996 From: cheese@adstone.com Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 10:12:50 -0500 Subject: WASHER VALVES To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com OKAY , let me try to explain how I hook up more than one device using a washing machine valve cold=A hot= B outlet=c A is air in B is air out to whatever uses less air to activate C is air out to whatever uses more air to activate THATS ALL THERE IS TO IT the trick is the air bleeds thru into B from A Apply 110 volts to BOTH valves. hope this helps there is nothing that works better CARL CHETTA From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 22 07:56:28 1996 From: sao@mit.edu To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: McFly's Haunted Bathroom Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 10:47:04 EDT Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com David Kiihne , Mon, 21 Oct 96 16:08:29 EDT; >Sounds like a great effect. Have you thought of turning the mask around and >using it as an anti-mask? This would allow the skull to be constantly looking >directly at the victim regardless of where they stand (cower). In fact, I tried this! It works well until I close the door and try to see the effect through the two-way mirror. It's just too dim to see. What I'd need is a STRONG single point source of light...One of those transformer-powered halogen desk lamps would probably do the trick. But for now, with the party four days away (Eeep! Oook!) I'm just going to stick with the flashlight-bulb setup I've got workign now. (And I _still_ haven't come up with a consistently working alternate motion-detector circuit for those pesky Fright Frames! I may have to resort to a floor sensor to trigger them.) My friends are getting into the act now. One of them is building an erupting volcano. It'll be a mountain of brocolli, which spews "lava" (Actually, blue-cheese dressing) down its sides. And another is bringing a gingerbread haunted house! This should be fun... :Andy Oakland sao@mit.edu From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 22 08:25:03 1996 From: cloudy@wolfenet.com Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 08:15:38 -0700 (PDT) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: No one knows?? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com So far, no one has replied to my request for something to make carved pumpkins last longer than 3 days. I had heard of a new pumpkin preservative that makes them last up to 30 but can't find it. You guys haven't heard anything?? Boo hooooooooo. Please help me--I'm just a carving fool! I'm desperate--maybe I'll just freeze dry the damn things. Then maybe they would look like shrunken heads..hey, that might be cool...just kiddin'! Colleen From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 22 08:31:24 1996 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 08:23:12 -0700 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Lisa Marie Subject: Re: No one knows?? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Sorry, we just talked about this like two days before you posted, I was sure there would be like ten people to jump in... but I guess we were all waiting for someone else to post. Someone found it at WalMart, I think someone else found it at Payless. I *think* it is a Pumpkin Masters product - no one has disputed this yet. Apparently it is a pain in the butt to do because it takes so long to dip them, but the end result might be worth it. I'm just going to do carve mine the weekend before Halloween & just keep soaking them in water to keep them alive thru Friday. Freeze drying might work, but don't just regular-like freeze them or they will turn to a pile of mush when they defrost. Bye! Lisa At 08:15 AM 10/22/96 -0700, you wrote: >So far, no one has replied to my request for something to make carved >pumpkins last longer than 3 days. I had heard of a new pumpkin preservative >that makes them last up to 30 but can't find it. You guys haven't heard >anything?? Boo hooooooooo. Please help me--I'm just a carving fool! >I'm desperate--maybe I'll just freeze dry the damn things. Then maybe they >would look like shrunken heads..hey, that might be cool...just kiddin'! >Colleen \\\|/// \\ - - // ( @ @ ) +---------oOOo-(_)-oOOo----------+ | Lisa Marie Peterson | | Administrative Assistant | | CellAccess Division | | FORE SYSTEMS WEST | | direct 408-467-4626 | | email peterson@fore.com | | internet http://www.fore.com | +------------------Oooo----------+ oooO ( ) ( ) ) / From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 22 09:14:13 1996 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 08:44:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Dave Bell To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: fluorescent paint Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com DON'T REMIND ME!! And WE have a PARTY on Saturday, so it's even shorter! > I am sure none of you need to know how many days are left till the big > day!!! SSCCRRREEEEAAAAMMMMM!!!! Where has the time gone? We've done something similar, but wanted to keep the artwork for future re-use. Hit the discount stores for the cheapest, sandpaper bedsheets you can find, in dark colors. Obviously, black is ideal, but deep blue, green or maroon works too. Paint, dry, hang, take down and fold away. Rehang annually, touching up as required... > Went to stores and found large pieces of cardboard. Painted them matte > black, and then with fluorescent paint painted trees with eyes, ghosts, > and ghouls!! He turned off the lights and turned on the black light and > wow the effect was great!! And Simple, and Cheap!!! I am cardboard > shopping today!! And no pictures for us??? > Thats me you see with her feet sticking out of the > dumpsters.....I fell in :) > Kathy Dave From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 22 09:22:13 1996 From: Scott Axworthy Subject: Re: Thanks To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 08:59:26 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Jeanni: JeanniSkip@aol.com writes: > >...deleted... > > Yesterday I steadied the ladder while my husband climbed up on the roof with > his version of Scott's bicycle rim ghost contraption in one hand, teetering > precariously and cursing (at me no doubt), wondering what I ever got him > into--- so today's posts just cracked me up -- you experienced guys make > everything sound so simple and trouble-free.... > Just wait until Halloween night when you decide it needs a little tweaking and you find yourself on the roof cursing in the pouring rain. Been there, done that. -Scott -- Scott Axworthy Phone: 206-649-7668 Cascade Design Automation Fax: 206-649-7600 scott@cdac.com http://www.cdac.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 22 09:28:07 1996 From: Scott Axworthy Subject: Re: Man-eating Plant To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 09:04:50 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Debbie: Neil and Debbie Faber writes: > > Hi-I'm Debbie Faber and I need some help from you guys who've been at > this a while. I am extremely mechanically and electronically challenged, > but find myself putting together a haunted house in spite of it all. My > specific challenge right now is the creation of a man-eating plant (ala > Little Shop of Horrors). Many thanks to Scott Axworthy for his > description of an insulating foam skeleton. I have managed to create a I'm glad you found the foam skeletons useful. They really are a cheap way to make decent skeletons. They are a bit involved I'll admit to get started, but once you have some templates you can keep going. I have three of them now and they get used every year. I have noticed that the older ones are starting to get more brittle. I had to do a little hot glue bone fusion the other day. The patient is recovering well and I expect a full recovery. -Scott -- Scott Axworthy Phone: 206-649-7668 Cascade Design Automation Fax: 206-649-7600 scott@cdac.com http://www.cdac.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 22 09:32:16 1996 From: Scott Axworthy Subject: Re: simple skelton graphic wanted + idea To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 09:11:56 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Joyce and other skeleton folks: Joyce Gair writes: > > Hi friends, > > I am looking for a very simple coloring book type drawing of a skelton > that I can enlarge, printout and cut out *easily*... any known out on > the web or ? > While I don't have what you want exactly, there is a great book for Halloweeners called "Anatomy for Artists." It has great drawings of all the parts and many excellent skeletons pix. I don't have the ISBN info here at work but I can get it if anyone is interested. You can typically find this book at art supply shops (Blue Cover.) > Joyce in Spokane, WA > igabalot@worldnet.att.net -Scott (Formerly of Spokane, okay 13 or 14 years ago.) -- Scott Axworthy Phone: 206-649-7668 Cascade Design Automation Fax: 206-649-7600 scott@cdac.com http://www.cdac.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 22 09:36:00 1996 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Pumpkin preservation From: rodney3@juno.com (Rodney G Grantham) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 12:24:51 EDT Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Several people commented that they'd seen the preservative at Walmart but it sounded like a lot of trouble to them. I saw a brochure from a pumpkin kit that discussed one version. Said normally pumpkin decays in 5 days (seems short to me) and their stuff made it last two or three weeks, I think. Someone says freezing is NOT a good idea. It collapses when it thaws. Last year we just soaked them periodically to de-shrivel and kept in the refrigerator some. We made 2 on Sunday. Used the Pumpkin Master kit and patterns. Great patterns. Kit is OK. I have a pumpkin carving tape from the library and he recommends a fruit knife. Thin blade, curved. He said sharp on both sides, but I now have two different ones and seem to be only sharp on one. Maybe OSHA heard about the double edge? The fruit knife is sturdier and works very well on all but small detail when you need those little saws that Pumpkin Master provides. This years patterns include Garfield. We had to get a new set when the blades from last years broke off. (Not while I was using, but we are not fixing blame here.) We got the fruit knife since it was 6:30 and neither grocery store had the kits. Only thing open in Roswell GA at that hour. Rodney rodney3@juno.com http://www.geocities.com/NapaValley/2049 On Tue, 22 Oct 1996 08:15:38 -0700 (PDT) cloudy@wolfenet.com writes: >So far, no one has replied to my request for something to make carved >pumpkins last longer than 3 days. I had heard of a new pumpkin >preservative that makes them last up to 30 but can't find it. You guys haven't From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 22 09:54:17 1996 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 96 11:26:04 CDT To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: robdoc@startribune.com (Robyn Dochterman) Subject: Flying crank ghost question Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hi all, I'm done with my Flying Crank Ghost, and it looks just stunning in blacklight (I liked JUST the blue flourescent paint)...BUT I have a problem. I can't seem to get the crank arm to stay on the motor shaft. I've tightened the nuts on the U bolt just as tight as I can get them, but they must loosen somehow, because the arm always works itself off the shaft. I didn't have any lock washers the right size, and I'll get some tonight, but will this help enough to keep the crank arm on the shaft? Any other suggestions? Thanks much. --Robyn Robyn Dochterman Interactive editor Star Tribune Online Robdoc@startribune.com http://www.startribune.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 22 10:02:31 1996 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 96 09:40:35 PST From: "Sparks, Doug" To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re[4]: L.E.D's Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com That helps immensely, thanks Doug! Doug Sparks dsparks@ligand.com ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Re[2]: L.E.D's Author: halloween-l@netcom.com at gateway Date: 10/21/96 3:47 PM >How do we hook up the resistor in a 2 red LED example... In clearer terms, wire the resistor in series with the pair, as if it were a third LED. Does this help? From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 22 11:00:13 1996 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 13:51:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Shaggy To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: fluorescent paint Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com On Mon, 21 Oct 1996, Mike Marcrum wrote: > Hi Ghouls, > I am sure none of you need to know how many days are left till the big HEY MIKE if you want some good quality cardboard check your local BEST BUY or CIRCUIT CITY etc. (any place that sells large appliances) Find out when they get their shipments in (BEST BUT gets them on Monday's and Wednesdays) and I've seen days when we'll get 50 or 60 sheets of cardboard perfect for what your doing... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ Aaron D. Harper _/ _/ IRC Office, Univ. _/ "We do not stop playing because we've _/ of NC at Greensboro _/ grown old, We grow old because we've _/ www.uncg.edu/~adharper _/ stopped playing." --Anonymous-- _/ adharper@hamlet.uncg.edu _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ************************************************************************ Out side of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it is too dark to read. ************************************************************************ From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 22 13:43:39 1996 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 16:41:01 -0400 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Linda Bills Subject: Re: No one knows?? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Sorry the you haven't heard from anyone yet on the pumpkin carving preservative. There is one on the market; I believe it's called Pumpkin Dunk - I looked at it at Walmart, but it sounded like too big a pain to use. You have to soak your pumpkins for a day to pickle them before carving then you need to soak them again afterwards. They also tell you to soak them every few days to keep them looking good. The package says your pumpkins will last 20 days. Someone else also mentioned that they soak their's overnight in ice water to help extend the 'kins life. Hope this helps. Linda pyrfan@ismi.net >So far, no one has replied to my request for something to make carved >pumpkins last longer than 3 days. I had heard of a new pumpkin preservative >that makes them last up to 30 but can't find it. You guys haven't heard >anything?? Boo hooooooooo. Please help me--I'm just a carving fool! >I'm desperate--maybe I'll just freeze dry the damn things. Then maybe they >would look like shrunken heads..hey, that might be cool...just kiddin'! >Colleen > From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 22 14:16:05 1996 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 16:59:51 -0400 From: Jack Bentley To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Pumpkin preservation Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Rodney G Grantham wrote: > The fruit knife is sturdier and works very well on all but small detail > when you need those little saws that Pumpkin Master provides. This > grocery store had the kits. Only thing open in Roswell GA at that hour. Roswell, Georgia? Howdy neighbor. Another good cutting device is an X-acto with the #15 keyhole saw blade for Handles B,C,D. They cut well and if it breaks you only need replace the blade not buy a whole kit. The only place I have found them is Hobby Town near Town Center. Jack "O-Lantern" B. -- MereImage, Inc. http://www.mereimage.com Providing Total Internet Solutions From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 22 14:43:28 1996 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 14:35:43 -0700 From: Joyce Gair To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: simple skelton graphic wanted + idea Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Oh! I am having tooooooooooooo much fun :-) http://www.benjerry.com/library/images/halloween/skeleton.gif Make your own paper skeleton ... individual body parts to print out and put together (hinged with fastners) http://www.benjerry.com/library/images/halloween/glynda.gif same except a witch tip sent to me by a graphic friend ... > Joyce in Spokane, WA > igabalot@worldnet.att.net From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 22 15:22:21 1996 From: Davis_Karen To: "'halloween-l'" Subject: why trick-or-treating is better than sex Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 18:08:48 -0400 Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com ...hi y'all stole this from another list and thought y'all would enjoy it...kathy marcrum, you can skip this part since i stole it from the country list!!!....karend >THE TOP TEN REASONS WHY TRICK-OR TREATING IS BETTER THAN SEX > >10. Guaranteed to get at least a little something in the sack. > > 9. If you get tired, wait 10 minutes and go at it again. > > 8. The uglier you look, the easier it is to get some. > > 7. You don't have to compliment the person who gave you candy. > > 6. Person you're with doesn't fantasize you're someone else. > > 5. 40 years from now, you'll still enjoy candy. > > 4. If you wear a Bill Clinton mask, no one thinks you're kinky. > > 3. Doesn't matter if kids hear you moaning and groaning. > > 2. Less guilt the next morning. > > 1. IF YOU DON'T GET WHAT YOU WANT, YOU CAN ALWAYS GO NEXT DOOR! > From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 22 15:27:52 1996 From: RADRAY5@aol.com Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 18:16:44 -0400 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Electronics questions Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Can anybody tell me what kind of a sensor they use in the halloween "doormats" that scream. It seems that it is a motion detector since you don't have to directly step on the mat, if you jump next to it it will go off. What do you call the sensors and where can you buy them? Also does anyone know how to go about getting your own sound effects on the sound chip that they use for those mats??? I would like to set up my own floor sensors with my own sound effects but don't know how to go about doing it. Any help would be appreciated. Chris From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 22 15:28:10 1996 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 15:12:17 -0700 From: Joyce Gair To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: double messages Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Help! My internet account at&t Netscape can not figure this out but when I SUB to a list type email group I get put down twice so I get double messages. Could you please see if I am down twice I could show up as: igabalot@worldnet.att.net or igabalot@postoffice.worldnet.att.net The postoffice one is wrong if you should find that one on there. It's not even in my email address anymore. Sorry for sending to all .... thanks Joyce From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 22 16:38:13 1996 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 96 17:46:31 CDT To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: robdoc@startribune.com (Robyn Dochterman) Subject: Re: Flying crank ghost question Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com >I can't seem to get the crank arm to stay on the motor shaft. Hardware stores are wonderful things. I took the problem to them. They gave me lock nuts. Well, I bought 'em, actually. Worked wonders. Now that my crank arm stays up, I have another question or two: I am using the Dayton gear motor Doug suggested, and it seems strong enough to crank everything around just fine without the counterweight. Is there any reason to keep the counterweight? And...when the crank bar is nearest the pulley attached to the head, the head dips and puts it's nose in the air, making it look very dead. I didn't expect this. Is this normal? The pulley is about three inches beyond the sweep of the crank arm. Thanks again, FCG fans. I appreciate your help. --Robyn Robyn Dochterman Interactive editor Star Tribune Online Robdoc@startribune.com http://www.startribune.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 22 16:53:35 1996 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Halloween-L: Jack-O-Lanterns From: mail2pj@juno.com (Phyllis J Persun) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 18:37:10 EDT Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Although it seems that most people cut off the tops of their pumpkins to make Jack-O-Lanterns, I know that there are also many people who cut the bottoms out. The latter sound like the better idea to me, since the Jack-O-Lanterns will sit flat, and you can place them on top of the candle or light instead of lowering them into the pumpkins. So is there any particular reason more people cut off the tops? Is it just by habit? PJ From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 22 17:53:48 1996 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 16:29:34 +0000 From: "Josefina G. Meno" To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Costumes Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Why don't you just paint your face and wear something black. You'll be a 'real' witch.( Don't take it personally) That's what I did a couple of years ago. Didn't spend much either. From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 22 18:53:09 1996 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 21:57:03 -0500 From: Jason R To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Incredible fog maker! Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Roy Leach wrote: > > We build a home brew fog maker based on the info in the archives and with a > few modifications, we can create a good stream of fog CONSTANTLY! We used 6 > feet of 1/8" copper tubing wrapped around a 500 watt BBQ igniter (a heating > element that gets red hot to light charcoal). The whole thing cost about $25. > We're using home brewed fog juice from 20% glycerin to 80% distilled water. > Based on some inital estimates, it looks like we should go through a cup of > juice per hour. Now, just have to build a few more! > Hmm, sounds good, but be carefuel with Homemade juice. It could be bad to breath {I dont know, just saying}. I work over at Wendys, well we have a water heater, this is a box about 1 foot tall, by 6 inchs thick. It plugs into 220 volt line, and heats up water constly. I was thinking, It could be easly modifyed and BOY it would pump out alot of fog! {Too bad, it is bolted onto the wall} Jay -- Jason R Member FDC {Beach Club lighting tech} VRC Homepage, Use it to find out ALL your Disney info needs. --Http://www.vivanet.com/~thelazer -- "I told'em the truth, and they fell for it"-Harry Anderson. From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 22 18:53:10 1996 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 21:56:45 -0500 From: Jason R To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Magic Coffin effects trick Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Well a update for you all. As you may know, I am bulding a coffein were you look into it and it is empty, the door closes and out jumps somone.! The coffein was built yesterday. It looks good {Needs some paint}. Unfortenly the part that lets you apper and disapper wont be done in time for halloween. I did have it working, but it was too hard to get in and out of fast enough. So, I am re-doing that part. I will post the planes for the coffein itself soon on the list. {It only takes about 4 hours and 30 to 40 dollers for wood}. The part that lets you apper and disapper. Well, I havent thought about this yet. In fact I need some input. As this *IS* a magic trick {Illusion} its something that should be consider a secert. In other woods, dont tell the people accross the street. So, I dont know weather on not I should sell the plans to the Illusion part of the coffein {As most magic tricks are sold} or to let people on this list {Cause I know alot of you} have em for free. What would you do in this postion is what I am asking!. Eather way, the plans for the Illusion part WILL NOT be ready for this Halloween {I want this to be a cool beliviable illsion, not a rush job} Jay Jason R Member FDC {Beach Club lighting tech} VRC Homepage, Use it to find out ALL your Disney info needs. --Http://www.vivanet.com/~thelazer -- "I told'em the truth, and they fell for it"-Harry Anderson. From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 22 19:27:03 1996 From: DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 21:18:43 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Flying crank ghost question To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Robyn, Regarding your FCG Problems: First, be sure the flat surface of the crank arm is agaist the flat side of the shaft on the Dayton motor. The lock washers are a must, really, and I didn't make that clear in the plans. Pardon my oversight, por favor. In regard to the head-dip problem, this is probably being caused by the relative position of the arms when the ghost is at its lowest position. Try adding some length to the arm lines. Of course, I could be visualizing this incorrectly, but I am almost certain the cause lies in the line length situation. There is a critical relationship between the measurements of these lines, and it is different for every incarnation of the armature someone builds, as the arm lengths are never exactly the same. You just have to experiment until you find it. If you can't realistically lengthen the arm lines, by the way, you can lose some length from the head line. A newspaper pro should have no problem doing this. ;-) -Doug *********************************************************************** * Safety, Courtesy, Show and Efficiency: * Doug Ferguson * * The Keys To The Kingdom * dwfww@jazz.ucc.uno.edu * *********************************************************************** From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 22 19:34:38 1996 From: DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 21:24:35 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Flying crank ghost question To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Robyn, Oops, I forgot to answer the counterweight question. While you can run the system without a counterweight if you fly a light enough spectre, this puts an uneven pressure on the teeth of the last cog in the gear chain, and thus it may begin to wear unevenly after a _lot_ of use. Try this: run the mechanism, and listen to the gearbox. If it begins to whine and you see the arm slow down noticibly, go ahead and use the counterweight. By the way, the counterweight can be used creatively. One of my 'cute' FCG's used the up/down counterweight line to make a black cat cutout rise up and duck down behind a little fence. The combination of these two figures made a neat little display, all run from one motor. -Doug *********************************************************************** * Safety, Courtesy, Show and Efficiency: * Doug Ferguson * * The Keys To The Kingdom * dwfww@jazz.ucc.uno.edu * *********************************************************************** From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 22 19:42:26 1996 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 19:29:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Dave Bell To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Electronics questions Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com > Can anybody tell me what kind of a sensor they use in the halloween > "doormats" that scream. As far as I can tell, it is a simple contact closure, from stepping on the mat. > It seems that it is a motion detector since you don't > have to directly step on the mat, if you jump next to it it will go off. What > do you call the sensors and where can you buy them? Perhaps, some of these were more sensitive than usual. > Also does anyone know how > to go about getting your own sound effects on the sound chip that they use > for those mats??? I would like to set up my own floor sensors with my own > sound effects but don't know how to go about doing it. I don't know of any way to record your own, onto those chips. You CAN get a record/playback chipset and roll your own, though. I think Raio Shack sells the chips. > > Chris > From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 22 19:42:45 1996 From: DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 21:34:31 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Magic Coffin effects trick To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com >What would you do in this postion is what I am asking! Jay, As a mamber of a magic club, I would personally opt not to publish this for non-magicians. The main reason we do discuss things like Pepper's Ghost here on the list is that certain illusions have appeared widely in print in certain Halloween how-to books, and were in the archives here before I ever arrived. The illusion you are discussing is not one of those, and although I believe I recognize the principle you are using, I will not reveal it here. This is an area for a personal decision. What you might consider doing is to offer the plans for your coffin to those who ask for it personally, realizing that it may constitute a 'spoiler' for a potential magic spectator. If you are in a club which requires an oath of secrecy to be kept, it is clear what you need to do. The revealing of the secrets of illusioncraft is, and always has been, a touchy matter. I do not wish to hender you from helping out the group in making better presentations possible, but as an illusion builder I thought I should speak up. -Doug *********************************************************************** * Safety, Courtesy, Show and Efficiency: * Doug Ferguson * * The Keys To The Kingdom * dwfww@jazz.ucc.uno.edu * *********************************************************************** From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 22 20:17:51 1996 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 20:01:57 -0700 From: Russ Spencer To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: can it be done? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com cloudy@wolfenet.com wrote: > > Hi, > I'm new to this list! Its so cool to know there's other people who love > Halloween as much as I do! My husband built the fog machine from the > instructions on the archives too, and now we have 2-a small one for inside > and a higher-powered one, "Mr. Foggy" made from a Mr Coffee that really > pumps it out! We're doing a version of the flying ghost as well, except > with a grim reaper with flashing eyes. I like to keep him busy. :> > ANYWAY, sorry to ramble on..I was looking for something to make a pumpkin > last longer after you carve it. I want to have a major display but they only > last about 3 days. Anyone have any ideas? I would appreciate any suggestions!! > thanks > ColleenOk, Cough it aaaagg-rrrrr-umph -----damned foggy gravesites get the best of me everytime. Give with the plans while I still have time. For the Mr.coffeefoggy. R. From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 22 20:37:03 1996 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Goodbye? From: mail2pj@juno.com (Phyllis J Persun) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 23:05:46 EDT Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Several people have posted that they want this list to continue after the "Big Day". Any word if whoever's in charge is planning on keeping the list going after Halloween? I sure hope so! :^) From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 22 21:03:08 1996 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 17:56:09 -0700 From: Mike Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Goodbye? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com As far as I know this list is year around. I found it aroud august and there were a lot of members than. So don't panic it will be here. If you want to panic about something look at your calander!!!! Kathy From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 22 21:16:18 1996 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 00:05:20 -0400 From: Craig Lewis To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Incredible fog maker! Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Today I just went out and bought my 2nd fog machine. It's an American DJ Fog Hog. I paid $140 for it....I guess too much, but I couldn't wait....and I didn't want to take a chance on getting before Sat. One press of the button and it spits out a lot! I hope to make it randomly go off by computer now.....hmmmmm.... Craig -- CyberImage- Custom Caps, Shirts & Color ID Badges...GREAT HALLOWEEN SHIRTS & CAPS! http://www.intrlink.com/~cyber Be Sure to Visit Our Halloween Page at: http://www.intrlink.com/~cyber/halloween From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 22 21:19:43 1996 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 21:08:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Dave Bell To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Goodbye? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Ahh, more new meat, I see! Err, new MEMBERS, I mean... Yes - of course we keep on! First, there is the run of haunt reports and reviews, then discussion of what went well and what need smore work for next year, the fish tales about the terrified kids on our streets, etc... We continue with plans for the next season, and all thos All Souls' Day resolutions about how we'll start EARY next time! Stay in here, keep contributing and questioning, and we'll all be each others' support group in that long stretch to the next Halloween. Dave On Tue, 22 Oct 1996, Phyllis J Persun wrote: > Several people have posted that they want this list to continue after the > "Big Day". Any word if whoever's in charge is planning on keeping the > list going after Halloween? I sure hope so! :^) > From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 22 21:25:55 1996 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 21:22:13 -0700 From: Bob Andrews To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Fluorescent blue and green spray paint Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com I *finally* found blue and green fluorescent spray paint at Orchard Supply Hardware. The only problem is that the blue spray paint can is made for marking the ground and must be used upside down. I figure if I turn my ghost upside down, I can paint it with the can rightside up. Makes sense, doesn't it? -- Bob Andrews bandrews@inreach.com http://www.anaserve.com/~BoBandrews From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 22 21:27:01 1996 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 21:17:04 -0700 From: Greenrey To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Gothic Music Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hello all, I realize that there was quite an extensive string about 2 weeks ago involving appropriate Halloween CDs, but one that I've stumbled across by accident is certainly worth a listen (assuming you can find it!). The album is called "Black Aria," and was written and produced by Glenn Danzig, of the gothic metal group Danzig. Here's the thing...it's entirely instrumental, and showcases an incredible talent for orchestration. It's very dark and brooding, with scores titles such as "Overture of the Rebel Angels" and "Dirge of Defeat." The CD was recommended to me by an employee of Blockbuster Music in Encinitas, CA after I explained the need for Halloween theme music. The CD was the last they had, and since I needed it in cassette, had to go all the way down to Pacific Beach to get the tape. The album was made in 1992 by--get this--Evilive Music, and if it is not in stock at Blockbuster Music, will have to be special ordered because it is not standard stock anymore. Anyway, if you're interested, you should check it out. Best Wishes, Aaron -- "When in danger or in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout." --Robert Heinlein greenrey@worldnet.att.net -or- awynnhi@kes.miracosta.cc.ca.us Visit Greenrey's Study at: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1982/ From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 22 21:38:40 1996 From: DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 23:29:19 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Fluorescent blue and green spray paint To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com >I figure if I turn my ghost upside down, I can paint it with >the can rightside up. Makes sense, doesn't it? I'd much rather watch you do it while executing a one-hand handstand, and singing "I Am The Very Model of a Modern Major-General." But I suppose that's just too much to hope for. ;-) -Doug *********************************************************************** * Safety, Courtesy, Show and Efficiency: * Doug Ferguson * * The Keys To The Kingdom * dwfww@jazz.ucc.uno.edu * *********************************************************************** From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 22 21:46:09 1996 From: GFerris330@aol.com Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 00:40:06 -0400 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Please help pump me up Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hi all, I'm working on a costume and I've run into a problem. I'm dressing as Frankenstein's Monster. I've got everything together but something is just not right. You see, I'm 6'4" and fairly slim of build. I'm afraid that my upper body and shoulders just don't pass for those of The Monster. I've tried stuffing myself with socks and newspapers but they don't stay in place (and don't look quite right either). I also don't want to get too big, as that will make my lower half look too small. This counts out anything similar to football shoulder pads. The closest that I've come so far is to wear 2 sweatshirts under my turtleneck and coat. This looks good but it's very hot. As soon as I start dancing I'll probably pass out. I consider you folks the experts so I beg for your advice. I'm open to any suggestions that you may have. Thanks, Greg in Rochester, NY \ From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 22 21:46:57 1996 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 23:41:46 -0500 (CDT) To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: DJ Subject: Re: Incredible fog maker! Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 12:05 AM 10/23/96 -0400, you wrote: >Today I just went out and bought my 2nd fog machine. It's an American >DJ Fog Hog. I paid $140 for it....I guess too much, but I couldn't >wait....and I didn't want to take a chance on getting before Sat. One >press of the button and it spits out a lot! > > I hope to make it randomly go off by computer now.....hmmmmm.... > >Craig Hi, Craig and Fellow Ghoulies, I've been wondering about this. There's no way I can set up the computer to operate my fog machine before this halloween. Is there any way to get continuous fog from this type of machine? What would happen if I tried taping the button down? A massive explosion sure to blow up all our displays along with the guests? DJ, who shudders thinking about the difficulties the clean-up crew would have separating the "real" and "fake" body parts From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 22 21:47:15 1996 From: "Chris Howard " To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 21:59:48 +0000 Subject: Re: Pumpkin preservation Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com > Rodney G Grantham wrote: > > > The fruit knife is sturdier and works very well on all but small > > detail when you need those little saws that Pumpkin Master > > provides. This grocery store had the kits. Only thing open in > > Roswell GA at that hour. > > Roswell, Georgia? Howdy neighbor. Another good cutting device is > an X-acto with the #15 keyhole saw blade for Handles B,C,D. They > cut well and if it breaks you only need replace the blade not buy a > whole kit. The only place I have found them is Hobby Town near Town > Center. > > Jack "O-Lantern" B. > It's a small world- I count four of us that live in the Atlanta area...are you guys interested in getting together and checking out some of the Atlanta haunts? Also, if you guys need any help with your private haunts, my husband and I are free (we live in an apartment :( ). Chris H. -- Chris Howard lhoward@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~lhoward/ "Humans live best when each has his place to stand, when each knows where he belongs in the scheme of things and what he may achive. Destroy the place and you destroy the person." -Bene Gesserit teaching From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 22 22:03:10 1996 From: SkinkSim@aol.com Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 00:56:12 -0400 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Please help pump me up Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Maybe you could try some foam padding from your local carpet store, or some heavier foam stuff at places like "JoAnn Fabrics." From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 22 22:09:40 1996 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 22:08:06 -0700 From: Bob Andrews To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Fluorescent blue and green spray paint Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu wrote: > > >I figure if I turn my ghost upside down, I can paint it with > >the can rightside up. Makes sense, doesn't it? > > I'd much rather watch you do it while executing a one-hand handstand, > and singing "I Am The Very Model of a Modern Major-General." > > But I suppose that's just too much to hope for. > > ;-) > > -Doug That would be spooky, having Gilbert and Sullivan spin in their graves. -- Bob Andrews bandrews@inreach.com http://www.anaserve.com/~BoBandrews From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 22 22:28:53 1996 From: DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 00:21:54 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Fluorescent blue and green spray paint To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com >That would be spooky, having Gilbert and Sullivan spin in their graves. Yeah, but just think of all the kinetic energy that could be tapped to run a major haunt. Better yet, maybe they'd just come back to haunt you, and save you a lot of time rigging SFX. Either way, you can't lose. :-) -Doug *********************************************************************** * Safety, Courtesy, Show and Efficiency: * Doug Ferguson * * The Keys To The Kingdom * dwfww@jazz.ucc.uno.edu * *********************************************************************** From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 22 22:41:20 1996 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 01:27:48 -0400 From: Jack Bentley To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Pumpkin preservation Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Chris Howard wrote: > It's a small world- I count four of us that live in the Atlanta > area...are you guys interested in getting together and checking out > some of the Atlanta haunts? Yeah. I guess you did not get my email. We (my wife, myself, and a friend) are planning on Friday night. Let me know what you think. jackb29@idt.vivid.net Jack "O-Lantern" B. -- MereImage, Inc. http://www.mereimage.com Providing Total Internet Solutions From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 22 22:54:08 1996 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 01:48:57 -0400 From: Craig Lewis To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Incredible fog maker! Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com DJ wrote: > operate my fog machine before this halloween. Is there any way to get > continuous fog from this type of machine? What would happen if I tried > taping the button down? A massive explosion sure to blow up all our > displays along with the guests? > I did this last year. The machines automatically shutoff if the temp drops and it needs to reheat. As for the pump?? Who knows. This is the only time of the year I use it....so I figure one night isn't going to hurt it too bad. This year, however, we are going for multiple nights. Since I now have two, I have a backup. If I find a quick easy way to trigger it via computer, I will pass it on. Craig -- CyberImage- Custom Caps, Shirts & Color ID Badges...GREAT HALLOWEEN SHIRTS & CAPS! http://www.intrlink.com/~cyber Be Sure to Visit Our Halloween Page at: http://www.intrlink.com/~cyber/halloween From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 22 23:38:42 1996 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 23:19:28 -0700 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Len Canders Subject: Re: Please help pump me up Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 12:40 AM 10/23/96 -0400, you wrote: >Hi all, > >I'm working on a costume and I've run into a problem. I'm dressing as >Frankenstein's Monster. I've got everything together but something is just >not right. > >You see, I'm 6'4" and fairly slim of build. I'm afraid that my upper body >and shoulders just don't pass for those of The Monster. I've tried stuffing >myself with socks and newspapers but they don't stay in place (and don't look >quite right either). > > > for my son's frankenstein costume a few years ago, i got a sheet of foam rubber; this was flat on one side & had conical bumps on the other and was about 3 1/2 inches thick overall --- it's like (in fact, exactly like) the foam rubber pads on beds. the price was right. i cut a large rectangular piece and cut a hole in the middle for his head then folded down the flaps to cover his chest and back. play with it a little to get a good fit and a decent taper from shoulders to waist; length should probably be long enough so the pants will go over the bottom edge. use duct tape to hold it all together including cutting out the bulges where the foam folds. this should give just about anyone good bulky shoulders and chest. yes, it probably will be hot, but you can't have everything. i think that's about half of the equation. the other half is to find the right shirt, coat and pants. it just won't make it with a pair of dockers. shop your goodwill or local thrift stores for some loose, bulky dark wools and don't forget the shoes. some large thick-soled black work boots should do it and if they're big for you all the better. you can check out my part of my results (which included making the foam latex frankenstein forehead) on my web pages (url in sig below); go to pix & furry pages and click on len's alex as frankenstein. unfortunately, it's only a headshot, but the rest of the costume made as i described turned out very well. hth, len canders lcanders@ccnet.com "in the fuzz" http://www.ccnet.com/~lcanders/welcome.html concord, ca From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 22 23:39:46 1996 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Halloween-L: Jack-O-Lanterns From: rodney3@juno.com (Rodney G Grantham) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 00:08:11 EDT Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Habit. Also Martha Stewart suggested this past Sunday cutting hole in bottom which pretty much kills the idea for me. Actually Sandra did hers from bottom. Seems awkward in some ways. Ended up chunking the portion removed and setting candle in ashtray to eluminate pumpkin. Rodney rodney3@juno.com http://www.geocities.com/NapaValley/2049 On Tue, 22 Oct 1996 18:37:10 EDT mail2pj@juno.com (Phyllis J Persun) writes: >Although it seems that most people cut off the tops of their pumpkins >to make Jack-O-Lanterns, I know that there are also many people who >cut the bottoms out. The latter sound like the better idea to me, >since the Jack-O-Lanterns will sit flat, and you can place them on top >of the candle or light instead of lowering them into the pumpkins. So >is there any particular reason more people cut off the tops? Is it >just by habit? >PJ From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Oct 23 04:06:11 1996 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 06:48:22 -0400 (EDT) From: RevCOAL To: Phyllis J Persun Subject: Re: Goodbye? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com On Tue, 22 Oct 1996, Phyllis J Persun wrote: > Several people have posted that they want this list to continue after the > "Big Day". Any word if whoever's in charge is planning on keeping the > list going after Halloween? I sure hope so! :^) I've been on this list for about 2 years now...it, and it's sister list xmas-l, stay active year-round as long as the list members keep posting. I've found that this list will have a last spurt of hyperenergy right after The Big Day, as everyone shares stories, then does slow down somewhat later in November and thruout December....but it picks up again after the holidays, as everyone uses the winter months to plan and build for the next Halloween. So don't worry, it and we do not go away.... Donna ;-) From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Oct 23 04:25:15 1996 From: Jacqui Young To: "'GFerris330@aol.com'" , "halloween-l@netcom.com" Subject: RE: Please help pump me up Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 07:10:33 -0400 Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hi Greg: How about making your own set of shoulder pads out of cardboard anchored with velcro to your shirt. You can get a rounded effect if necessary by scoring about two inches from the edge and bending that portion down. Hope this helps. Jacqui jacqui.young@cciw.ca You see, I'm 6'4" and fairly slim of build. I'm afraid that my upper body and shoulders just don't pass for those of The Monster. I've tried stuffing myself with socks and newspapers but they don't stay in place (and don't look quite right either). From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Oct 23 04:27:00 1996 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 07:07:37 -0400 (EDT) From: RevCOAL To: GFerris330@aol.com Subject: Re: Please help pump me up Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com On Wed, 23 Oct 1996 GFerris330@aol.com wrote: > The closest that I've come so far is to wear 2 sweatshirts under my > turtleneck and coat. This looks good but it's very hot. As soon as I start > dancing I'll probably pass out. I would suggest getting either foam or polyester batting, available wherever they sell upholstery supplies (wrap it around your arms and torso under your clothes)...but I doubt either would be any cooler to wear while dancing.... Donna ;-) From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Oct 23 04:53:26 1996 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 07:36:11 -0400 (EDT) From: RevCOAL To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Every Witch Way Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com >From today's BESTWEB digest.... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Subject: BESTWEB Digest - 21 Oct 1996 to 22 Oct 1996 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 00:21:04 -0800 From: Stefanie Olsen Subject: Every witch way.... Ever seen a witch in action? We didn't think so. Watch the new "witch cams" on Women's Wire and see real-life witches at work. It's all part of our new Halloween feature "Every witch way." We sent a reporter to a coven meeting to get the scoop on the women (and men, it turns out) behind the myth of the pointy-nosed hag. Drop by for the full story, if you dare! Go to Women's Wire at http://www.women.com/buzz/witches/ ------------------------------ From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Oct 23 06:39:34 1996 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 03:31:14 -0700 From: Mike Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Fluorescent blue and green spray paint Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Bob, Using the can right side up to paint the ghost upside down did make sense...this means I am starting to go into " Oh God we forgot to buy that" stage.......HELP!!! Kathy The new kid on the crypt mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Oct 23 06:47:52 1996 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 03:37:10 -0700 From: Mike Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Please help pump me up Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Greg, This is one area I do have knowledge in!!! I make costumes year around. Try going to the fabric store and buying some quilting batting in the thickness you think is right and very cheap material. Muslin is a good choice. Then pad your costume where it needs it and use the muslin if the batting bothers you. The batting breaths and is not so hot!! If you wear a tshirt underneath it should not bother you. If this still sounds hot then get some plastic boning at the fabric shop and make a frame work that will sit on your shoulders and the costume will fit over. This will give you dimension without heat. If these don't hit you let me know and I will try to think of others. I have used both and they both work well. Kathy The new kid on the crypt mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Oct 23 07:21:28 1996 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 09:14:57 -0600 From: Brandt To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: can it be done? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Russ Spencer wrote: > > cloudy@wolfenet.com wrote: > >... and a higher-powered one, "Mr. Foggy" made from a Mr Coffee that really > > pumps it out! > > thanks > > ColleenOk, > Cough it aaaagg-rrrrr-umph -----damned foggy gravesites get the best of > me everytime. Give with the plans while I still have time. For the > Mr.coffeefoggy. > > R. -- We would really appreciate the plans for that too!!! It sounds like just what we're looking for! :) Thanks in advance, Kelly "Morty's Mortuary, you stab 'em, we slab 'em" ____________________________ _|_ _ / ___/~~~ /------|------\ | ___|___ _|_/_______________|______|____\__\__|________,_ / R.I.P.\ \ _________________|____-_|-______|_____________) | The | <____// \|______|______|_______|_// \)_____> | Brandts | \___/ \___/ |_________| http://www.tecinfo.com/~ofm From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Oct 23 07:23:58 1996 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 96 10:19:21 EST From: Stuart McIntire To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re[2]: Magic Coffin effects trick Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Doug says (in part): >...The main reason we do discuss things like Pepper's Ghost here >on the list is that certain illusions have appeared widely in >print in certain Halloween how-to books, and were in the archives >here before I ever arrived. The Pepper's Ghost illusion has also been revealed in *much* older books than HTOAFSHH - magic books, in fact, (one of which I think was written by Black- stone). I've got two such books and I believe one was written as far back as the 1930s. >This is an area for a personal decision. What you might consider doing >is to offer the plans for your coffin to those who ask for it >personally, realizing that it may constitute a 'spoiler' for a potential >magic spectator. If you are in a club which requires an oath of secrecy >to be kept, it is clear what you need to do. Indeed, it is a personal decision. Remember that if you decide to give out the plans on an individual re- quest basis, your E-Mail in-box will have 400 messages instead of the current 200 ;) >The revealing of the secrets of illusioncraft is, and always has been, >a touchy matter. I do not wish to hender you from helping out the group >in making better presentations possible, but as an illusion builder >I thought I should speak up. I'm not a magician, nor do I play one on TV. ;) From the little I've read, revealing secrets IS a touchy subject among professional and amateur ma- gicians. Sometimes I wonder if the purpose of maintaining secrecy is really to maintain the mystery, or to earn more money. *** PLEASE *** do not send flames. I'm not being critical here, this is just an observation. Almost any illusion that's been created has either been publicly revealed, or is available for a price from a place that sells the plans. That's the key - available for a price. That's not necessarily a bad thing. Many people make a living off of stage magic and the ability to maintain the illusion is their bread and butter (in my opinion, the stage presence and patter are the *real* keys, but I'm not quibbling here). So it's not unlike people copying pages out of books, or making copies of recordings or TV broadcasts, or VCR tapes (don't forget the ubiquitous FBI warnings). People who write and/or publish plans for magic tricks and illusions make money from their efforts. When the secrets are publicly revealed, a source of income is lost...or at least dampered. So what about Pepper's and other illusions which are relatively well known or easy to learn for those who care to look? Many are probably (if not likely) in the public domain. So no one's livelihood is in danger. But perhaps learning the illusion has de- stroyed some people's enjoyment of it (not mine, however ;) Personally, I enjoy well presented magic. I don't know how it's all accomplished and don't try to guess. I also enjoy the works of Penn and Teller who make a point of "revealing" a trick, only to continue to amaze and amuse. I also enjoy the works of James Randi. In some circles, these acts and ones like them are considered heretical. I think they're quite entertaining. I don't have a problem with the secrecy bit. As far as I'm concerned, it's fine and dandy. - Stu stuart.mcintire@uage.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Oct 23 07:27:59 1996 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 09:18:53 -0600 From: Brandt To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Incredible fog maker! Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com ... A massive explosion sure to blow up all our > displays along with the guests? > > DJ, > who shudders thinking about the difficulties the clean-up crew would have > separating the "real" and "fake" body parts -- but if you kept your camcorder handy, it might be worth $10,000! Kelly "Morty's Mortuary, you stab 'em, we slab 'em" ____________________________ _|_ _ / ___/~~~ /------|------\ | ___|___ _|_/_______________|______|____\__\__|________,_ / R.I.P.\ \ _________________|____-_|-______|_____________) | The | <____// \|______|______|_______|_// \)_____> | Brandts | \___/ \___/ |_________| http://www.tecinfo.com/~ofm From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Oct 23 07:38:55 1996 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 07:24:00 -0700 From: Bob Andrews To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Fluorescent blue and green spray paint Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Mike Marcrum wrote: > > Bob, > Using the can right side up to paint the ghost upside down did make > sense...this means I am starting to go into " Oh God we forgot to buy > that" stage.......HELP!!! > Kathy > The new kid on the crypt > mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com Kathy, I'm in a state of panic right now. Only one weekend left and about 2 months of work left to do! I have to keep reminding myself that I'm not charging admission, they're lucky if I give out candy. Bob From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Oct 23 07:39:23 1996 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 10:32:39 -0400 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: kahnn@pa.net (Nathan Kahn) Subject: Re: Goodbye? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com >Several people have posted that they want this list to continue after the >"Big Day". Any word if whoever's in charge is planning on keeping the >list going after Halloween? I sure hope so! :^) This is a permanent, year-round mailing list. Of course it is not as active the rest of the year as it is now. :Nathan ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Nathan Kahn Home: kahnn@pa.net Work: nathan@theatrefx.com Work Web: http://www.theatrefx.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Oct 23 07:39:41 1996 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 10:32:41 -0400 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: kahnn@pa.net (Nathan Kahn) Subject: Re: Incredible fog maker! Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com >I've been wondering about this. There's no way I can set up the computer to >operate my fog machine before this halloween. Is there any way to get >continuous fog from this type of machine? What would happen if I tried >taping the button down? A massive explosion sure to blow up all our >displays along with the guests? Machines under $500 are not capable of putting out fog on a continual basis. After the temperature drops to a certain point, it goes into "reheat", and during this period there will be a safety relay in there that prevents you from fogging. (To eliminate the possibility of your machine spitting out hot juice instead of fog.) Taping the button down will not damage the machine, as long as you make sure it does not run out of fluid, and the machine has a good pump. (Some of the very cheapest machines have a plastic pump that will not even handle intermittent use!) Occasionally you may run into a fogger that does not have the safety relay mentioned above. This, the possiblity of the machine running out of fluid, and the possibility that the machine has a cheap junky pump, would be the reasons why you might not want to tape the switch down. :Nathan ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Nathan Kahn Home: kahnn@pa.net Work: nathan@theatrefx.com Work Web: http://www.theatrefx.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Oct 23 08:17:38 1996 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 96 10:01:40 CDT To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: robdoc@startribune.com (Robyn Dochterman) Subject: Re: Flying crank ghost question Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com >By the way, the counterweight can be used creatively. One of my >'cute' FCG's used the up/down counterweight line to make a black >cat cutout rise up and duck down behind a little fence. The combination >of these two figures made a neat little display, all run from one motor. > I'll listen to the motor, adjust the lines to the arms, and thank my lucky pumpkins that you're the best tech support person ever, Doug. BTW, the headline pun had me LOL! --Robyn Robyn Dochterman Interactive editor Star Tribune Online Robdoc@startribune.com http://www.startribune.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Oct 23 08:19:09 1996 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 11:05:42 -0400 From: Rob Freeman To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Electronics questions Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Chris (RADRAY5@aol.com) asks: >What do you call the sensors and where can you buy them? I posted directions on how to make 'Floor sensors on the cheap' on October 4th. They should be in the archives, but I will forward a copy to you directly. There's a pciture of 'Matt' testing a floor pad similar to the one I described at: http://home.earthlink.net/~tickler/matt.gif -- Happy Haunting Rob Freeman freemanr@oeonline.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Oct 23 08:22:14 1996 From: cloudy@wolfenet.com Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 08:08:22 -0700 (PDT) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Coming up..Mr Foggy Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Okay! I've had several requests for instructions for the fog maker from a coffee machine. So I got my husband Jeff to write down the instructions. They are quite lengthy and he doesn't type, so I won't send them until later today when I get home from my classes, when I have time. So stay tuned! Colleen From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Oct 23 08:28:40 1996 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 10:17:24 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Barry Wulfe Subject: Re: Please help pump me up Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com >Hi all, > >I'm working on a costume and I've run into a problem. I'm dressing as >Frankenstein's Monster. I've got everything together but something is just >not right. > ........... Have you tried Football Pads? I would think that they would be readily available in most sporting good stores and should do the trick. Barry Wulfe bwulfe@txdirect.net From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Oct 23 08:32:02 1996 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 08:16:42 -0700 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Lisa Marie Subject: Re: Halloween-L: Jack-O-Lanterns Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 06:37 PM 10/22/96 EDT, you wrote: >Although it seems that most people cut off the tops of their pumpkins to >make Jack-O-Lanterns, I know that there are also many people who cut the >bottoms out. The latter sound like the better idea to me, since the >Jack-O-Lanterns will sit flat, and you can place them on top of the >candle or light instead of lowering them into the pumpkins. So is there >any particular reason more people cut off the tops? Is it just by habit? If you are using a real candle and cut out the bottom, you will still need to cut a little hole in the top of the pumpkin directly over the candle flame. I think this is called a chiminey hole or something. Of course if you are using ficker lights instead of candles, you won't need to cut the hole in the top at all. \\\|/// \\ - - // ( @ @ ) +---------oOOo-(_)-oOOo----------+ | Lisa Marie Peterson | | Administrative Assistant | | CellAccess Division | | FORE SYSTEMS WEST | | direct 408-467-4626 | | email peterson@fore.com | | internet http://www.fore.com | +------------------Oooo----------+ oooO ( ) ( ) ) / From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Oct 23 08:35:58 1996 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 08:19:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Dave Bell To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Goodbye? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Oh, sure! ALL of us have the foresight to start in the winter! Well, maybe THIS year... Dave > somewhat later in November and thruout December....but it picks up again > after the holidays, as everyone uses the winter months to plan and build > for the next Halloween. > > Donna ;-) From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Oct 23 08:51:11 1996 From: DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 10:40:17 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Flying crank ghost question To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com >I'll listen to the motor, adjust the lines to the arms, and thank my lucky >pumpkins that you're the best tech support person ever, Doug. BTW, the >headline pun had me LOL! Gawrsh, Robin, I'm speechless! Glad you are enjoying yourself. :-) -Doug *********************************************************************** * Safety, Courtesy, Show and Efficiency: * Doug Ferguson * * The Keys To The Kingdom * dwfww@jazz.ucc.uno.edu * *********************************************************************** From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Oct 23 09:03:18 1996 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 08:41:02 -0700 From: Bob Andrews To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Haunted Mansion record. Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com I was about to go to my dad's house to search for my old Haunted Mansion LP (The one with Ron Howard). Then I realized that I have no way of playing it once I found it. I haven't owned a turntable in ten years. Sometimes technology stinks. Bob Andrews bandrews@inreach.com http://www.anaserve.com/~BoBandrews From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Oct 23 09:04:05 1996 From: Will Mellick Subject: Re: Please help pump me up To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Wed, 23 Oct 96 8:53:15 PDT Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com > > Hi all, > > I'm working on a costume and I've run into a problem. I'm dressing as > Frankenstein's Monster. I've got everything together but something is just > not right. > message snipped > > I consider you folks the experts so I beg for your advice. I'm open to any > suggestions that you may have. > > Thanks, > Greg in Rochester, NY > > \ Hi Greg, In the past when I dressed up as Frankenstein's Monster, I used 1 inch thick foam rubber pads, like what fragile items may be packed with. I trimmed these down to extend just past the tip of my shoulder, and a little wider than my collar bone. I used a loose pair of suspenders to hold the foam pads in place under my shirt and coat. It 'squared off' my shoulders pretty well, without making by upper body look too big. Hope that this might help. Will in Spokane, WA. mellick@spk.hp.com Phone : (509) 921-3626 Telnet: 1-921-3626 Mail: Hewlett-Packard Company Will Mellick, 3WU Test Engineering 24001 E. Mission Liberty Lake, WA 99019-9599 From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Oct 23 09:39:51 1996 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 09:18:44 -0700 From: matt.gomes@ebay.sun.com (Matt Gomes) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Please help pump me up Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hey, all, I'm working on my costume for NEXT year (sheesh!) and I need some help... I'm trying to boost my height (6'3") with some large healed boots, but I'd like to go FURTHER (can you say, "walking on stilts"?). Can anyone suggest a way to put inserts into the boots to raise me up a couple more inches? Thanks for the help! -M (matt.gomes@ebay.sun.com) From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Oct 23 09:46:55 1996 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 12:49:27 -0500 From: Jason R To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Magic Coffin effects trick Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu wrote: > > >What would you do in this postion is what I am asking! > > Jay, > > As a mamber of a magic club, I would personally opt not to publish this > for non-magicians. The main reason we do discuss things like Pepper's > Ghost here on the list is that certain illusions have appeared widely > in print in certain Halloween how-to books, and were in the archives > here before I ever arrived. The illusion you are discussing is not > one of those, and although I believe I recognize the principle you > are using, I will not reveal it here. > > This is an area for a personal decision. What you might consider doing > is to offer the plans for your coffin to those who ask for it personally, > realizing that it may constitute a 'spoiler' for a potential magic > spectator. If you are in a club which requires an oath of secrecy > to be kept, it is clear what you need to do. > > The revealing of the secrets of illusioncraft is, and always has been, > a touchy matter. I do not wish to hender you from helping out the group > in making better presentations possible, but as an illusion builder > I thought I should speak up. > > -Doug Yes, that is a good point. I *DO* wish to see people improve there haunts, and a effect like this would be, well very good at that.! As it is the, the chance of ruining the magic of magic for others is great. I would hate to see someone learn the trick to this, and then never again see a magic show because they know how it is done and it isnt fun anymore. I belive that I may offer it for free to those on this list. With a few rules. 1. They may never reviel how it is done to anyone 2.If anyone wants to know how it is done, and wants to build one, they refear that person to me. Other then that, it would only be for sale to other Magic and Illsuion people. I like the people on this list, and I know what the average person goes thur, they dont have the budget to buy this kind of stuff, so I would like to do something for them, by offering it for free. I am still not sure on the issue, but I do thank you for your input. As I said, I am still not done in building the effect. The next problem is space. Manly, I have to work out, that is there enough room for the person to hid in okay {Can they get out easly enough}. As such Jay -- Jason R Member FDC {Beach Club lighting tech} VRC Homepage, Use it to find out ALL your Disney info needs. --Http://www.vivanet.com/~thelazer -- "I told'em the truth, and they fell for it"-Harry Anderson. From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Oct 23 09:48:16 1996 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 12:52:04 -0500 From: Jason R To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Incredible fog maker! Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com DJ wrote: > > At 12:05 AM 10/23/96 -0400, you wrote: > >Today I just went out and bought my 2nd fog machine. It's an American > >DJ Fog Hog. I paid $140 for it....I guess too much, but I couldn't > >wait....and I didn't want to take a chance on getting before Sat. One > >press of the button and it spits out a lot! > > > > I hope to make it randomly go off by computer now.....hmmmmm.... > > > >Craig > > Hi, Craig and Fellow Ghoulies, > > I've been wondering about this. There's no way I can set up the computer to > operate my fog machine before this halloween. Is there any way to get > continuous fog from this type of machine? What would happen if I tried > taping the button down? A massive explosion sure to blow up all our > displays along with the guests? If it functions as the older f-300 modle does, you can do this. The fog will come out, untill the temp lowers to much, at that point the system will shut off as it reheats, once it is done heating up again the pump will be turned on again. Call ADJ 800 number and ask someone in tech to be sure. Jay -- Jason R Member FDC {Beach Club lighting tech} VRC Homepage, Use it to find out ALL your Disney info needs. --Http://www.vivanet.com/~thelazer -- "I told'em the truth, and they fell for it"-Harry Anderson. From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Oct 23 09:54:29 1996 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 11:46:27 -0600 From: Brandt To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Fluorescent spray paint AND CANDY!!!!! Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Bob Andrews wrote: > > Mike Marcrum wrote: > > > > Bob, > > Using the can right side up to paint the ghost upside down did make > > sense...this means I am starting to go into " Oh God we forgot to buy > > that" stage.......HELP!!! > > Kathy > > The new kid on the crypt > > mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com > > Kathy, > I'm in a state of panic right now. Only one weekend left and about 2 > months of work left to do! I have to keep reminding myself that I'm not > charging admission, they're lucky if I give out candy. > Bob Jimmy wrote: CANDY...WE FORGOT THE BLEEPIN CANDY!!!!! We were so busy...flying ghost...flying crank ghost...jacobs ladder...grave stones...graveyard fence...coffins...fog makers...hearses...but still no CANDY...YIKES, off to Wally's Word of candy. -- "Morty's Mortuary, you stab 'em, we slab 'em" ____________________________ _|_ _ / ___/~~~ /------|------\ | ___|___ _|_/_______________|______|____\__\__|________,_ / R.I.P.\ \ _________________|____-_|-______|_____________) | The | <____// \|______|______|_______|_// \)_____> | Brandts | \___/ \___/ |_________| http://www.tecinfo.com/~ofm From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Oct 23 10:18:06 1996 From: "Bell, Erik H." To: Halloween-L Subject: Sound controlled strobe Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 09:53:00 -0700 Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hello again fellow Spooksters, Does anyone have any information on how you could control a strobe to be in sync with loud music or noise. Ex: strobe flashes to a thunder clap. Thanks From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Oct 23 10:27:25 1996 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 10:13:20 -0700 From: Bob Andrews To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Sound controlled strobe Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Bell, Erik H. wrote: > > Hello again fellow Spooksters, > > Does anyone have any information on how you could control a strobe to be > in sync with loud music or noise. Ex: strobe flashes to a thunder clap. > > Thanks A color organ works. I just bought a stobe yesterday andit works great with it. 2-channel Color Organ: The Electronic Goldmine P.O. Box 5408 Scottsdale, AZ. 85261 (602) 451-7454 fax (602)451-9495 Part # G3319 Price: $5.95 -- Bob Andrews bandrews@inreach.com http://www.anaserve.com/~BoBandrews From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Oct 23 10:57:39 1996 To: halloween-l From: William E Rompala Date: 23 Oct 96 13:47:20 Subject: Re: Please help pump me up Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com > >I'm working on a costume and I've run into a problem. I'm dressing as >Frankenstein's Monster. I've got everything together but something is just >not right. > How about building a chicken wire frame- (be careful with the edges). The wire frame would be easy to build, bend into shape, and wouldn't be prone to overheating. ;-) -W -=- William Rompala Rompala Consulting http://www.netaxs.com/~romwil romwil@netaxs.com DAY: rompala_william@jpmorgan.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Oct 23 10:58:41 1996 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 96 13:49:39 EDT To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Bill Lewis Subject: Re: can it be done? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 09:39 AM 10/22/96, you wrote: >Colleen wrote, in part, while describing a home made smoke >generator built from a "Mr. Coffee" machine: >================================================ >>and the reostat? I dunno > >In support of "do it yourself-ers": I'd mention that an >industrial rheostat is not required. The easily found "lamp >dimmers" will do. Wattage rating of dimmer must be equal to or >higher than "Mr. Coffee" machine, and the standard 1000 watt >dimmer would control either machine described. Ok, yet another clarification, "Standard" cheapie dimmers are rated for 600W, to go above that, you'll pay a little more. To be safe I'd go with as high a rated dimmer as possible. But still stick with the no frills type. I've found that using electronic dimmers can get pretty warm when you get to about 1/2 of their rating. Bill Lewis NSWC Carderock Division Code 6060 (301) 227-2742 lewisw@oasys.dt.navy.mil lewisb@erols.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Oct 23 10:59:31 1996 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 13:43:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Lund To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Party animals Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Has anyone seen the latex masks called party animals? I saw some today and they are awesum! They feel almost like skin and cover from your forehead to your mouth. They are applied with spirit gum and supposedly mimic all your facial movements. The cost was about $51.00. If you hate wearing full masks, this might be the way to go. Does anyone know where to get them cheaper? This store was very expensive on all their stuff. Larry _ ___c Lawrence H. Lund \ _| \_ 179 Studley Street __\_| oooo \_____ Brentwood, NY 11717 ~~~~|______________/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ E-mail: llund@suffolk.lib.ny.us llund179@aol.com Phone: (516)-231-8790 Fax: (516)-434-9315 From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Oct 23 11:11:46 1996 From: "Bell, Erik H." To: Halloween-L Subject: Halloween mood music Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 10:52:00 -0700 Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hello again Spooksters, Like many of you I too am trapped in a corporate cubicle where halloween decorations are banned. My only form of halloween expression allowed at work is music. Recent discovery: After experimenting with over 2 dozen halloween related CD's I have found one that is that achieves my desired affect. The motion picture soundtrak to "Bram Stoker's Dracula" End result: Without knowing why, nearbye listeners became tense, panic-prone, and noticeably spookable. The average "BOO" from behind after at least 15 minutes of exposure to the soundtrak brought about near cardiac-arrest like response. The same response happened at home after experimenting on the family. In addition: Gradual increase in volume brought about even more tension. Will keep you all updated as to further discoveries in this area. Request: If anyone has any other title's to recommend puullleeeeasse post. Thanks From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Oct 23 11:17:34 1996 From: Fictional Person Subject: book o the dead To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 13:11:11 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hi all! Just delurking to say thanks for all the cool ideas and maybe add something. Hope it hasn't been suggested before. Book o the dead. The thrift stores (goodwil and such) around Houston tend to have big bins full of old books on sale very cheap. If you could find a big hard bound one among them, it would be pretty easy to create a spooky looking tome out of it. Just use paper machet to sculpt a horrible looking face or design on the front of the book-- overlaping the paper strands around the inside of the cover to hold it on. Once it's dried you can paint it to look like leather. Tell your guests its bound in human skin. For an added effect you can hollow out the book by cutting squares through the center of all the pages. This would give you a place to put bateries and circuitry for lights or sounds. I almost hate suggesting the destruction of a book but there are usually plenty at the thrift store that no longer contain useful info. CYA Steve Harrison the not so fictional person. From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Oct 23 11:42:41 1996 From: qoe@sna.com Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 11:35:37 -0700 (PDT) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Please help pump me up Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com How about some women's shoulder pads. They come in a variety of thicknesses at the fabric store. __________________________ |\/\/\/\/\/| Lynne Miles \0 0 0 0 / qoe@sna.com |~~~~~~| Orangvale, CA From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Oct 23 11:48:37 1996 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 14:42:12 -0400 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: "Brian S. Jazudek" Subject: Re: Please help pump me up Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com You might also look at football shoulder pads. At 11:35 AM 10/23/96 -0700, you wrote: >How about some women's shoulder pads. They come in a variety of thicknesses >at the fabric store. >__________________________ >|\/\/\/\/\/| Lynne Miles > \0 0 0 0 / qoe@sna.com > |~~~~~~| Orangvale, CA > From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Oct 23 12:03:55 1996 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 15:02:33 -0700 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Moon Subject: Re: Every Witch Way Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com > >Ever seen a witch in action? We didn't think so. Watch the new "witch >cams" on Women's Wire and see real-life witches at work. It's all part of >our new Halloween feature "Every witch way." We sent a reporter to a coven >meeting to get the scoop on the women (and men, it turns out) behind the >myth of the pointy-nosed hag. Drop by for the full story, if you dare! > >Go to Women's Wire at http://www.women.com/buzz/witches/ > I do all that, I'm a (male) witch. Pretty cool huh? Moon 0=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-0 o Moon o | Fiberopt@pipeline.com | o -Happy Halloween- o | | o "From o to Witch in 2.1 Secconds" o | "Wicca, Its not a new wave of lawn junk" | 0=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-0 From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Oct 23 12:49:13 1996 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 15:28:38 From: JBKadel@gnn.com (Jim Kadel) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Tales of the Unexpected Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Whether you call it IPIO (Innate Perversity of Inanimate Objects) or Murphy Law ("whatever can, will go wrong") every haunt builder experiences this frightful frustration prior to the big show. Some may find comfort in sharing tales. My Tale: -------- Having been inspired by Halloween-L, I planned to mount a Fright Frame (FF) on the front door and have it operated by the doorbell button. My FF, purchased by mail order, arrived in good working shape [which is lucky, by itself, I understand]. Anyway, to avoid running many feet of wire thru the house, I conceived of using a $15. wireless doorbell transmitter/rec'vr to send a radio signal from my door chime to trigger the FF. This idea turned out to be much more work than expected. It took me a couple of nights and a little luck to adapt this wireless system to its purpose. However, with the wireless system operating as designed, I test everything this morning only to find that the FF's LED eyes no longer work! (IPIO strikes again) ***************************************** Jim Kadel (JBKadel@gnn.com) soul producer of "Haunted Porch" ***************************************** From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Oct 23 13:31:35 1996 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 20:24:19 GMT From: "SHUNT.EMAIL.VILL.EDU" To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Pumping up Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com --Boundary-71888-0-0 Matt, Last year, it seemed to be all the rage in the alternative/punk scene to have "stacked" shoes - stacked sneakers, stacked combat boots, etc. It seems that this was achieved by rubber soles being stacked on top of each other (instead of having one sole, the shoe would have maybe 5 or 6 soles on top of each other). I remember seeing advertisements for this type of "sole work" at several shoemakers in the Philadelphia area. My point is, maybe a shoemaker in your area could "rig" something like this for the Inside your shoes? But that might squish all your toes or something. I don't know. Just thought I'd pass it along. P.S.: Thanks to EVERYONE for their replies regarding blue makeup for my '70's Blonde Vampire costume...I can't wait to try out some of your ideas (probably ALL of them...my poor skin :] ) Sue H. shunt@email.vill.edu --Boundary-71888-0-0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Date: 23 Oct 96 13:33:36 From:"TNNONET@IBM.UCIS.VILL.EDU" To: shunt@dgprod2.vill.edu X-Orcl-Application: Return-Path: Received: from VILLVM (NJE origin SMTP@VILLVM) by IBM.UCIS.VILL.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 2512; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 13:33:31 -0500 Received: from majordomo.netcom.com by IBM.UCIS.VILL.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 23 Oct 96 13:33:30 EST Received: by majordomo.netcom.com (8.7.5/8.7.3/(NETCOM MLS v1.01)) id JAA20909; Wed, 23 Oct 1996 09:28:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 09:18:44 -0700 From: matt.gomes@ebay.sun.com (Matt Gomes) Message-Id: <199610231618.JAA04365@copperfield.EBay.Sun.COM> To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Please help pump me up Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-MD5: PtbNOED3kfOdsxu7cHs1dg== Sender: owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Errors-To: owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hey, all, I'm working on my costume for NEXT year (sheesh!) and I need some help... I'm trying to boost my height (6'3") with some large healed boots, but I'd like to go FURTHER (can you say, "walking on stilts"?). Can anyone suggest a way to put inserts into the boots to raise me up a couple more inches? Thanks for the help! -M (matt.gomes@ebay.sun.com) --Boundary-71888-0-0-- From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Oct 23 13:43:55 1996 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 20:32:21 GMT From: "SHUNT.EMAIL.VILL.EDU" To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Poligrip for fangs? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Did I read somewhere that it is ok to use denture grip to adhere fake vampire teeth to your real teeth? Is that safe? Sorry to bug you guys with this trivial question, what with all the cranks and strobes and foggers and other technical stuff taking up your time. You guys are incredible! I can't even figure out my VCR!! Hee hee.