Thursday, October 24, 1996 Volume 02, Issue 34 ______________________________________________________________________________ "More Signal, Less Noise" Once upon a Halloween There lived three unhealthy little pigs. One stuttered. One was a vampire. And the wisest was a Biblical scholar. All summer long, they played games But autumn came and the weather worsened. Each pig decided to build a haunted house. The laziest little pig said he'd build one of straw. The other pigs laughed at him. The vampire pig built one inside a homemade casket. But the third, wisest pig constructed the Caverns of Blood. One fall night, along came a hungry werewolf. Hungry for pork, the wolf demanded the lazy pig's surrender. Not wishing to be homeless, the pig resisted. The werewolf huffed and puffed and blew the straw house down. The pig disguised himself and escaped to his littermate's casket. The wolf followed, yelling, "I'm gonna make ya give up the ghost, pig!" He set fire to the casket and tried to cremate them. But the pigs escaped in a hearse to the wise pig's abode. Meanwhile, the wise pig had been reading ancient documents And the Book of Shadows. He invited his littermates in and they asked an oracle for help. Hoping to drive the wolf away, they tortured him with voodoo But the relentless werewolf pursued his horrible goals But his lungs were weak and he was out of matches. He climbed down the chimney, knowing he could walk on the fireplace coals. That's not the way the story goes, thought the wise pig. He decided to convert the werewolf to vegetarianism. "Wolf, try this pumpkin with a variety of fillings," he said. The lycanthrope liked it, and soon mastered the pumpkin carving craft. No longer dreaming of torturing the piggies, The werewolf instead read them some Stephen King, And took them to a monster museum. Later, they all dressed up in fetish gear And went to the prince's Royal Ball. CONTACT INFORMATION CREDITS ONCE UPON A HALLOWEEN Some sites just make you go "wow". The Fright Zone, dedicated to Halloween, is one. The site demands up front that you have or get the Shockwave, VDOLive, Cyberpassage, and Live 3D plug-ins, but you can get by without them. True, you lose the animated man-eating computer and you won't be able to view the VRML haunted house or the VRML monsters you've designed, but there's still enough left to make a worthwhile browse. The herbal lore, for example, describes the supposed effects of everything from lettuce (an aphrodisiac) to lovage (psychic cleansing, but oddly not an aphrodisiac) and the mini- pontifications on Halloween past and present make decent reading. The designers have crafted the site and its art with loving care, and it shows. ONE WAS A VAMPIRE. There's a picture of a porcelain porker gussied up as a vampire at this page. There's very little else besides a contest to name the little sucker. But hey, it fits our story. As for the name, we like Ham Stoker. EACH PIG DECIDED TO BUILD A HAUNTED HOUSE. Richard Garriott, co-founder of Origin Systems, a name experienced computer jockeys may remember from the pre-Doom gaming universe, also has a rather interesting alter-ego: Lord British, master of the mystic arts, or words to that effect. Every two years, Lord British and his cohorts stage a massive haunted-house style spectacle at Garriott's whopper of a mansion. The Britannia Manor site has been set up to provide a tour of the haunted house production and the underlying story, a classic tale of good against overwhelming evil. THE VAMPIRE PIG BUILT ONE INSIDE A HOMEMADE CASKET. With a hammer, nails, wood, sweat, and a plan purchased from this site for the low, low price of $20, you can build your very own eternal resting place. Just imagine being buried in the product of your own labor. And best of all, until that fateful day, your homemade casket doubles as fine furniture. Now if you can only find someone to bury you in the backyard, you have it made. BUT THE THIRD, WISEST PIG CONSTRUCTED THE CAVERNS OF BLOOD. Eerie music, spidery lightning bolts flashing around blood-dripping text, bats flapping across the screen - this is what a Halloween site should be! Caverns of Blood dares you to enter the game and find your way among ten caves to the fabled cavern of jewels. Creative use of animated gifs and sound tracks as well as clear and useful instructions for both navigating and playing make this site a real treat and no trick at all. Be sure to check out the page on how the site was constructed. It includes a multitude of downloadable GIFs and MIDI files with info on all the authors. ONE FALL NIGHT, ALONG CAME A HUNGRY WEREWOLF. In the Web-wide world of werewolf whereabouts, there are pages with decent art, decent prose, and decent data. But no one site really puts it all together, so here are three. The first has a litter of pics from all kinds of sources. The second teaches how to tell werewolf from normal person. The third has more info than you can count on your claws. First: Second: Third: THE PIG DISGUISED HIMSELF AND ESCAPED TO HIS LITTERMATE'S CASKET. Milieux's Costume Site Web pages hosts one of the most complete sets of resources available on the Net for Halloween or all-purpose costume information. The site has links to manufacturers, museums, and historical information on various types of holiday costumes. Medieval armor and costumes are perhaps the most prevalent, fortunately for the Society for Creative Anachronism and others interested in barbaric periods of human history. From swords and armor to Superman's cape to Battlestar Galactica Cylon costumes, this site probably has a link. THE WOLF FOLLOWED, YELLING, "I'M GONNA MAKE YA GIVE UP THE GHOST, PIG!" Ghost Hunter's Gallery claims to contain the largest collection of ghost photos on the Net, complete with the stories surrounding the picture taking. The site's even good for a few laughs. Check out the text that associates the "An Imaginary Friend" images. Oh, wait - they're serious. Take a look inside the hunter's black tool bag to learn what equipment is used in detecting poltergeists. If you're seriously inspired, you can even join the International Ghost Hunters Society. BUT THE PIGS ESCAPED IN A HEARSE TO THE WISE PIG'S ABODE. Grim Rides, a Bay area hearse collectors' club, meets every full moon, and strives for grander plans on Halloween and Memorial Day. Everything you expect at this site is here: a FAQ; pictures; e-mail addresses; news; etc. The well designed page is easily navigated. Check out the hearse with the flaming nose. MEANWHILE, THE WISE PIG HAD BEEN READING ANCIENT DOCUMENTS This is it, la creme de la creme. This link takes you to the best Halloween document we found on the Web. It's ours - last year's NSD Halloween issue. We didn't find too much this year that's better than what we wrote about last year and not wanting to repeat ourselves, we decided just to include this URL. Have fun, but take a flashlight. AND THE BOOK OF SHADOWS. The Book of Shadows is a collection put together by a self-described computer science student/witch in Australia. He includes a series of articles outlining his beliefs and the deities he worships. In a really neat move, the author provides a number of spells, including one from Russia that is supposed to turn the chanter into the animal of choice. Also available is handy information like how to acid etch your athame (a double-edged ritual knife illegal in Massachusetts). If you're curious, hop on your broom and zip on over. HE INVITED HIS LITTERMATES IN AND THEY ASKED AN ORACLE FOR HELP. The alignment of stars and planets and the alliances of various evil and malevolent forces on Halloween night often fills those uncertain, less cynical souls with trepidation and general, unfocused malaise. For these frightened few, this site offers helpful, insightful, albeit porcine advice. The Joke Pig Oracle is just the thing to help cowering, hapless netsurfers hiding at home until the night has passed. Just make sure to consult the Oracle before it becomes a pleasant, thoroughly cooked companion to someone's morning eggs. HOPING TO DRIVE THE WOLF AWAY, THEY TORTURED HIM WITH VOODOO This site is morally reprehensible, encourages the worst sort of sadism and overarchingly is hilariously fun. A wonderful use of Java brings you an actual straw and burlap voodoo doll that you can burn, slash, and, of course, stick needles into. Let the throbbing drumbeats enflame your fantasies. Hear the screams of your accursed object. Then mail the disfigured doll to whomever you please. Your real sender info is included though, so no anonymous voodoo pranks are allowed. BUT THE RELENTLESS WEREWOLF PURSUED HIS HORRIBLE GOALS Little pig, stay away from here! You'll get your throat slit and your intestines stuffed with your own blood. If anyone else happens to be interested in a graphic description of the process of "pig sticking", however, this is the place to be. It also includes Grammaw Amanda's boudin blood sausage recipe. How can you go wrong? "WOLF, TRY THIS PUMPKIN WITH A VARIETY OF FILLINGS," HE SAID. Zug's Pumpkin Drop is brought to you by the guys who last year ran the PumpkinCam, a vegetable with multiple electronic prostheses. This year's prank is to test the gross-ability of variously filled pumpkins surreptitiously dropped from an eight-storey parking structure. They filmed each test and turned them into easily downloadable QuickTime movies. Try the extra-heavy mayonnaise movie or the nacho cheese drop. Be afraid of the pickled sausages. Marvel at rice and tomatoes. And don't miss the chance to reminisce about Clive, the original vomiting jack-o-lantern. THE LYCANTHROPE LIKED IT, AND SOON MASTERED THE PUMPKIN CARVING CRAFT. As seen on Roseanne, the Pumpkin Masters have got the goods. Looking to "empower our customers... and help them create fulfilling holiday memories and traditions", they provide step-by-step visual guides and patterns. Regular or deluxe (more candles, scoops, and stuff) kits can be ordered and the enthusiasm for the process is infectious. Join the pumpkin carvers club, or register and get a free pattern. THE WEREWOLF INSTEAD READ THEM SOME STEPHEN KING, The Stephen King Library site, run by the Book-of-the-Month Club, offers netsurfers a chance to be thrilled and revolted by the severely twisted mind that brought us "It", "Carrie", and others in that kinder, gentler, family-values breed of movies and books. This is above all a commercial site, with ads, special prices, and ordering information for the vast body of work King has produced over the years, as well as assorted merchandise and paraphenalia appropriate for up-and-coming psychopaths. Stringing garlic around your monitor may prevent evil from seeping out of this site onto your lap, but we can't guarantee it. AND TOOK THEM TO A MONSTER MUSEUM. If you like Frankenstein's monster (and his bride), the Mummy, and Dracula, you'll love Universal Studios Monster Mayhem. Universal Studios has done good with monstrous sweepstakes (with a chance to become a monster on "Hercules: The Legendary Journeys"), Monster Home Movies (scenes from great horror flicks), a cinematic monster hall of fame, Tricks and Treats (which will appeal to kids with the patience to wait for long downloads), and other ghoulish treats. Most of these pages have flashy color graphics, so a fast connection will make the chills run a little faster up your spine. LATER, THEY ALL DRESSED UP IN FETISH GEAR The House of Whacks, the fabulous Cindy Demarco's Chicagoland brainchild, is rich in good quality and imaginative rubber, leather, and vinyl (real vinyl, not the synthetic stuff) clothing and gear. Visit the Rubber Room, or just drool over the spunky pictures. Check out the "Mouth Mask with Breathe Thru Blow Up Gag". Could be you prefer liquid latex? Or maybe you just need a starter kit. Prices are high but so are the Smegg platform boots. AND WENT TO THE PRINCE'S ROYAL BALL. What a wrong turn our heroes have taken. They're dressed in leather and - is that a ring in the wise pig's nose? He's ready for San Francisco's Exotic Erotic Ball, and tickets are still available for this always sold-out twisted tradition. Weirder than Hunter Thompson's hot tub, the host entity, the San Francisco Dungeon, offers erotic accoutrements and all the adult entertainment your piggy pacemaker can handle, for a fee. From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Oct 27 16:03:52 1996 Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 15:55:08 -0800 From: Robert Bradvica To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Knotts Halloween Haunt Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hey there everybody, I saw several posts from people before they went to Knotts. But never heard any reviews after they went. How was it? What maze or mazes did you really like? Robert From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Oct 27 16:21:55 1996 Date: Wed, 04 Oct 1995 19:17:53 -0400 From: Tony Arcand To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: NEVER GOING TO BE DONE! Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com I am so stressed out. Between school and Halloween I think I'm going to crack. I'm in the middle of mid-terms, and my yard is in shambles. I tried putting out some fencing around my graveyard, but nothing will go into the ground because it's frozen. Everything is falling apart. ARRGGG!!!!! Tony From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Oct 27 19:00:39 1996 Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 21:44:59 -0500 From: dingwal To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Halloween mood music Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Gary Engle wrote: > > Is there a contraption somewhere that will make a > rocking chair rock, with no one in it? Or is > this easy to make? > > ...Gary gengle@erols.com I wonder if you put some iron at the back of the rockers and put a large electromagmet under the floor that pulses if it would work...Bobby From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Oct 27 20:30:07 1996 Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 20:25:59 -0800 From: Bob Andrews To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: List of the dead... Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Wow, this list is dead tonight... -- Bob Andrews bandrews@inreach.com http://www.anaserve.com/~BoBandrews From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Oct 27 22:17:32 1996 From: DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 00:09:03 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: List of the dead... To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com >Wow, this list is dead tonight... 'Tis the dead of night... List! Hear the lone wolves howl! For just beyond mornings two in number Lies the evening for which we have Laboured so long and lovingly. Do you not feel it in your blood? Does not the season stir your blood? Arise, I say, and make good your vow! Shivers and chills lie yet to be delivered, 'Tis in your hands, and the time is now! Well, hey... it ain't Shakespeare, but my heart is in the right place. ;-) -Doug *********************************************************************** * Safety, Courtesy, Show and Efficiency: * Doug Ferguson * * The Keys To The Kingdom * dwfww@jazz.ucc.uno.edu * *********************************************************************** From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Oct 27 22:22:00 1996 Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 22:08:08 -0800 (PST) From: Dave Bell To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: List of the dead... Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com On Sun, 27 Oct 1996, Bob Andrews wrote: > Wow, this list is dead tonight... > -- > That's only because we all are, too... Party a success, Halloween awaits! Dave From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 28 00:22:00 1996 From: htraver@dreamsys.com Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 00:16:46 -0700 Subject: Re: Three motor flying effect To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com I had gotten conked on the list for a week, and missed the 3 motor flying effect. I think my server overloaded :( Can whoever created the effect please report it? Thanks. Harry is back! [ Sent From: Dreamscape Systems - dreamsys.com ] [ Location: Van Nuys, CA - (818) 781-7529 ] From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 28 00:28:22 1996 From: htraver@dreamsys.com Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 00:22:48 -0700 Subject: Rocking Chair effect To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com For a rocking chair, you can use several different tricks, which are outlined in the Phillip Morris book. Some suggestions: 1. pneumatic cylinder. 2. string held by a cast member. 3. motor with a cam to the rocking chair. 4. electromagnet and switch setup. for any others, use the imagination :) Harry [ Sent From: Dreamscape Systems - dreamsys.com ] [ Location: Van Nuys, CA - (818) 781-7529 ] From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 28 03:58:45 1996 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 06:41:48 -0500 (EST) From: RevCOAL To: Bob Andrews Subject: Re: List of the dead... Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com On Sun, 27 Oct 1996, Bob Andrews wrote: > Wow, this list is dead tonight... Only appropriate, no? Donna ;-) From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 28 04:43:31 1996 From: ALLAN DAVID Date: Mon, 28 Oct 96 07:34:53 -0500 Subject: RE: Magic Coffin effects trick To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Just included a copyright notice in the message. (Of course, someone could still publish it. They'd just be violating your copyright.) David dallan@dow.com Jason wrote: [stuff deleted for brevity] My biggest fear though, is that the idea could be somehow printed in a Mag, or book or something. Not that I wouldnt love seeing my idea's out there. I just know about 3000 other people who would be VERY mad if I were to reveil a basic sercet of some major magic tricks. Jay From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 28 05:12:26 1996 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 96 08:05:00 EST To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Bill Lewis Subject: Re: Rocking Chair effect Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 12:22 AM 10/28/96 -0700, you wrote: >4. electromagnet and switch setup. Here's a thought for #4 A simple mercury switch (like found in old thermostats) attached to the rocker so that it turns the magnet off as it rocks near the magnet, and on as it rocks away from the magnet might work. Bill Lewis NSWC Carderock Division Code 6060 (301) 227-2742 lewisw@oasys.dt.navy.mil lewisb@erols.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 28 05:35:23 1996 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 08:18:52 -0500 From: ROGER ALEXANDER To: DAVEKI@nebfef.com, halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Magic Coffin effects trick (long!) -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com I'd like to see those plans too! >>> David Kiihne 10/24/96 1:42 pm >>> :Jason R wrote on 10/24/96 at 12:14pm >David Kiihne wrote: ><340053454 lines of text deleted> ...and that was the EDITED version!! :) >P.S If you like to see some plans and rough drawings {I do mean ROUGH} >let me know. Thank you very much for the offer. I would love to see anything you're willing to share. (Privately, of course. The e-mail address is below.) Dave - daveki@nebfef.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 28 05:51:07 1996 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 06:38:40 -0600 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Creepy ScreenSavers? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com It's taking me forever to catch up on email! Could the person who has posted the message below let me know what computer this runs on (Windows, Mac?) and send me a copy? I use both computers, so either or both would be great! Thanks! ==================================I I came across a different Halloween screensaver, but it wasn't too scary, >either. It had bones and skulls flying across the screen and exploding when >they hit each other. It did have one of those "note-pad" thingies, where >people who come looking for you can leave a message when you're not at your >computer. Holler if you want me to dig up the site it was at. From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 28 06:04:01 1996 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 96 08:56:15 EST To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Bill Lewis Subject: DC, MD, VA People! Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Ok, Lauren, Karen, (Stu too, but he already knows) and anyone in the MD, DC, and VA area that would like to drive by and check out my yard, or stop by for a closer look, here's the info. BTW, we really seem to be slowing down traffic on the road this year, so maybe I've done something right. 7420 Brink Rd. Laytonsville, MD We'll have the lights on all this week until about 10:30 pm each night. For directions, from anywhere, email me, at either my home or work address (or both). If I get a large response, I'll add more to the display, It will peak by Thursday, and be gone by the weekend. Bill Lewis NSWC Carderock Division Code 6060 (301) 227-2742 lewisw@oasys.dt.navy.mil lewisb@erols.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 28 06:24:21 1996 From: Peepley@aol.com Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 09:12:33 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: success Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hi everybody - The rain gods smiled on The Village of Downs this year. We had record turnouts, our blood and organ donor drive was a resoundong success as well as the children's parade. We made a lot of maney and will be re-wiring our pavilion. Things could not have gone better!!! Special thanks to Denny for all his help. Good look to all who are still in the process. jas From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 28 06:29:56 1996 From: Peepley@aol.com Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 09:19:58 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: success Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com sorry for the poor spelling. maybe i shouldn't play scrabble with kathy after all. jas From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 28 06:34:16 1996 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 96 10:19:50 EST From: Stuart McIntire To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re[2]: Halloween mood music Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com There are several ways to do it. The easiest is to have an oscillating fan behind the rocker blowing against the back. If the back is open, mount a piece of cardboard on it. Another more time consuming way is to get a small motor that will give you a back and forth motion and attach some type of armature to it and the chair. Try the fan idea first. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Halloween mood music Author: halloween-l@netcom.com at Internet Date: 10/27/96 9:00 AM Is there a contraption somewhere that will make a rocking chair rock, with no one in it? Or is this easy to make? ...Gary gengle@erols.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 28 06:56:21 1996 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 96 10:44:37 EST From: Stuart McIntire To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Is It Really Over? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Well, we held the party for the kids at school. I was out Friday and had to wade through 127 halloween-l posts this morning (and I have to make a good show of doing actual *work* around here so the Payroll Dept. will be satis- fied ;) Pardon me if I don't get a proper review out for a couple of days...I've got a few fun anecdotes to relate for your enjoyment, but I'm a little swamped for now. Bill Lewis made it to the shindig. While I collect my thoughts and knock this pile on my desk down to a manageable level, maybe he can pass along a few brief observations... - Stu stuart.mcintire@uage.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 28 07:11:42 1996 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 96 11:01:22 EST From: Stuart McIntire To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: An Omen? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com My password to our purchase order database expires on 10/31/96. Hmmmm.... From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 28 08:06:17 1996 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 08:02:31 -0800 From: Bob Andrews To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: success Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Peepley@aol.com wrote: ...organ donor drive was a resoundong... Um..nevermind. -- Bob Andrews bandrews@inreach.com http://www.anaserve.com/~BoBandrews From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 28 08:08:34 1996 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 11:02:12 -0600 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: njg@cc.UManitoba.CA (Nick Gloor) Subject: Re: Now I'm depressed... :( Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com >Hmm...I've never tried the children's medecine thing- but I do know >that when I have to take "adult" allergy medecine it makes me sleepy >and unable to enjoy anything. Thanks for the tip > >Chris H. My wife is quite allergic to cats and other things and we asked our local pharmacist for a "non-drowsy" antihistamine with no decongestant. It turns out there are several OTC meds available (in canada, YMMV in the US) which do not turn her into a vegtable, and bonus, keep the allergies in line. The one thing both our doctor and pharmacist said was to start treatment at least 24 hours in advance of known exposure to the cats. Nick Gloor njg@cc.umanitoba.ca From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 28 08:17:32 1996 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 08:40:48 -0600 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: NEVER GOING TO BE DONE! -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Tony Arcand writes: > I am so stressed out. Between school and > Halloween I think I'm going to crack... Typical Samhain-season blues...hang in there! From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 28 08:19:14 1996 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 08:42:38 -0600 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Halloween Attractions Not To Miss -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Check out the listing at http://www.geocities.com/heartland/2007/haunts.html. From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 28 08:37:06 1996 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 11:07:18 -0500 From: ROGER ALEXANDER To: milwiron@btprod.com, halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: re: Flying Ghost Verses Rocket Scientist -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Sounds like there's gonna be a flying "dog" skeleton next year...!! ;) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Roger Alexander Phone: 812-854-4748 Naval Surface Warfare Center Fax: 812-854-3508 Bldg 64 Code 111RA Crane, IN 47522 INTERNET: rda413@smtp.nwscc.sea06.navy.mil Supporting the Fleet through Supply! >>> 10/25/96 7:12 am >>> The ol' ghost bit the big one today... As many of you know I built Scott's flying ghost system way back when and ran it for weeks last year without a hitch. From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 28 08:47:36 1996 From: JeanniSkip@aol.com Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 11:31:58 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Strange Question time Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Kathy, That wind storm that you got -- we got it too. So bad that it did in our outdoor flying ghost (only during the windstorm-should still operate under normal conditions) - actually the whole line snapped... As I was scurrying around all day to get everything ready for the 7:30PM party, I kept looking outdoors at our headstones (anchored with stakes in the bottoms) to see if they had flown away! Our 8x8' painted cardboard Haunted House (on a 2x2" wood frame) was being whipped around. My new (stryofoam) 12 ft. curved "Haunted Hollow Cemetery" archway sign over the driveway gate entrance got blown apart during last night's wind, so I didn't even bother trying to put it up in the gale. Our spider remained intact in the tree, but we didn't dare put out a lot of stuff, just because of the weather. Welcome to the club I guess :-( I couldn't believe it - sorry for sounding awful to all you folks who deal with serious weather conditions, but we might get about six days a year like this one, if that! Just disappointed, oh well, there's still Halloween to get it all fixed, battened down and hopefully no more wind!! Jeanni From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 28 08:54:26 1996 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 11:29:18 -0500 From: ROGER ALEXANDER To: halloween-l@netcom.com, bwulfe@txdirect.net Subject: Re: Torch Effects -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Have you built your own fog machine? Does it create the "creeping fog" effect where the fog hangs close to the floor in comparison to a general all encompasing mist? Let me know. Thanx!! Roger Alexander Is that a mask or your real face? From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 28 09:36:00 1996 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 12:27:09 -0500 (EST) To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: jdunfee@shadow.net (Joe Dunfee) Subject: RE: Magic Coffin effects trick Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com >[stuff deleted for brevity] My biggest fear though, is that >the idea could be somehow printed in a Mag, or book or something. Not >that I wouldnt love seeing my idea's out there. I just know about 3000 >other people who would be VERY mad if I were to reveil a basic sercet >of some major magic tricks. > >Jay There would be no problems with "magicians ethics" if you only corresponded with people who were going to do the effect. They, by doing so, have become magicians themselves. But posting it publically to this list would not be proper. Giving away the secrets is more or less like telling everyone the ending of a movie before they see it. Joe Dunfee Miami, Florida USA From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 28 10:24:23 1996 Subject: Arrrgh! Broken Fog Machine - Help! Date: Mon, 28 Oct 96 10:11:23 -0700 From: John Base To: "halloween-l@netcom.com" Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Arrrgh! So I'm in the middle of running the maze room at our church on Saturday night, and after about 5 minuets of pumping out the fog, my American DJ 150 machines decides that it doesn't want to play anymore. When it heats up and is ready to fire, you push the button and .... nothing happens. I can hear the pump trying to run (The solenoid(?) sounds like it's activating), but I can tell it's drawing in no juice. Any ideas or places to buy a new pump. I have no fear of opening it up and working on it. Thanks! jbase@popmail.lmu.edu From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 28 10:40:30 1996 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 00:23:40 -0600 From: Brandt To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: jacobs ladder Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Jimmy wrote: I found a transformer with one side burnt out...will it still work? Also how far will a 15,000 volt one jump? Thanks for the info. -- "Morty's Mortuary, you stab 'em, we slab 'em" ____________________________ _|_ _ / ___/~~~ /------|------\ | ___|___ _|_/_______________|______|____\__\__|________,_ / R.I.P.\ \ _________________|____-_|-______|_____________) | The | <____// \|______|______|_______|_// \)_____> | Brandts | \___/ \___/ |_________| http://www.tecinfo.com/~ofm From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 28 10:40:39 1996 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 10:21:07 -0800 From: rothe@edsug.com (Bill Rothe - Tekware sys mgr) Subject: Re: Knotts Halloween Haunt: REVIEW (LONG) To: halloween-l@edsug.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com *>Hey there everybody, I saw several posts from people before they went to *>Knotts. But never heard any reviews after they went. How was it? What *>maze or mazes did you really like? Ok, you asked for it. I went on Friday night, and it was kind of strange. Strange in the sense that for the first 2-2.5 hours, there really weren't that many people in the park, or so it seemed to me. I got in on the VIM early entry program, so we got in around 6:35 or so. Before 7, we were able to do the "Dead & Breakfast", "Cavern of Carnage" (mine train), and the "Camp GonnaGetcha" (log flume). All but the flume were repeats from last year, and had lines shorter than 5 minutes. The D&B had a line only because they weren't ready to open yet. I got into everything but the House of Maniacs (when the line wraps all the way around the building the line is TOO long - IMHO), and the Curse of the Werewolf (slanted rooms make me queasy). As to shows, I can't review the Dead Monsters... show, as I'd heard from friends that it wasn't worth even standing in a short line for. Hey, Knotts! Bring back Elvira & Ramon Azteca!!! A few repeats from last year, but in general, they kept the better ones. Dead & Breakfast was good, with a lot of hallways with opening doors...can somebody explain what the ALIEN (yes, the movie one) room was doing in a D&B? Cavern of Carnage was the usual mine train scenario. Nothing new here. Ride by, shake the coin can....yawn. Same feeling with the Camp GonnaGetcha ride...what can you do in a moving ride...? Carnival of Freaks was a repeat. Good, but same as last year. Noticed Cirque du Soleil music playing throughout. Dominion of the Dead. Nice, gothic looking Vampire walkthrough Some pretty nice looking Vampire females in this one. Graveyard looked like everybody was on a break (i.e., kinda empty). Some of this one's inhabitants must've been players of the Vampire:The Masquerade role playing system, as one of our group was remarking aloud about the obvious clans of many of the vampires. One female vamp even told him aloud that he was incorrect, she was from another clan...;) Nice touch, having your talent get into their characters. Underground: Mostly a retread of the old 'Industrial Evil' sets and costumes....a few new interesting areas, particularly the 'cyborg disco' (my term). Some of the dancers in the disco broke the 'no contact' rules....real loud music. Toon Terrortory: This one was new for this year, and rather interesting. It took some of our most beloved Cartoon favorites (and some of our least favorites!) and trashed them hopelessly. Lessee: they had Speed Racer (who had apparently put on a *lot* of weight and been in a car crash), the family from the battery commercials who were being electrocuted, Beavis & Butthead were chasing you around with knives, several scenes from old Tex Avery style cartoons where you were harassed by pigs and wolves in zoot suits. One pig slid open a window and hit us with a cup full of confetti. There were several other scenes I can't really remember. The monsters seemed to be rushing everyone through....Very interesting concept & execution. I would've liked to have spent more time in this one, to see more and remember it better. Only drawback to TT was that they were taking out one security person who was holding towels over his right eye area. Lotsa blood on the towels. It looked like somebody had hit/stabbed/whatever him. Poor guy looked like he was in a pretty bad way. This was no fake, as the paramedic truck had already pulled up outside the side entrance (near the steak house). I hope he was ok. Kingdom of the Lounge Lizards...sigh. What can I say? Two years ago, this seemed funny, because it didn't seem like they were trying to make it funny. Now, they're trying, and not succeeding. Dinosaur lounge acts just don't cut it anymore. Bad. Very Bad. Particularly the stuffed "Sgt. Pepper" Beatle dolls in the webbing where the prehistoric beetles usually are. And the disco dancers in the snow scene had this "How did I get stuck in this?" look on their faces. The girl at the "Elvis" souvenir stand was actually dozing....why do you have to explain with a souvenir stand that the T-Rex in the white jumpsuit singing "Viva Las Vegas" is supposed to be Elvis? They should've had her selling T-Rex souvenirs! Arg! Reviews: (Standards school-type grading system - you lose a half grade for repeats of last year) Dead & Breakfast: B- (repeat) Cavern of Carnage: C (retread) Dominion of the Dead: B (repeat) Carnival of Freaks (I think that was the name): B- (repeat) Camp GonnaGetcha: C (what can you do in a flume ride?) Underground: B+ (nice re-use of old 'Industrial Evil' stuff) Toon Terrortory: A- (nice use of copyrighted cartoon characters) House of Maniacs: N/A Curse of the Werewolf: N/A Kingdom of the Lounge Lizards: D- (it worked for me two years ago but not this time) Nightmares: A (even though its a repeat) Dr. Cleaver for President: B (show, not haunt. Corny, but classic) Dead Monsters of Rock - LIVE!: N/A All in all, a pretty good year. I'm always suprised that Knotts' doesn't put in a permanent spookhouse, what with the popularity of this seasonal attraction. Comments, flames, etc. are welcome. If you worked on an attraction that I've trashed, I'm sorry. -bill. -- <*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*>| | "We do not stop playing because we've grown old. | | We grow old because we've stopped playing." - Anonymous | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------| | rothe@ug.eds.com ** Opinions stated here are not those of EDS ** | <*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*>| From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 28 10:43:53 1996 From: "Chris Howard " To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 11:34:33 +0000 Subject: Re: Strange Question time Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com > Kathy, > > That wind storm that you got -- we got it too. So bad that it did > in our outdoor flying ghost (only during the windstorm-should still > operate under normal conditions) - actually the whole line > snapped... I know that windstorm had to be pretty bad, but at least you guys are having fall weather. It's been consistently in the 70's or 80's the latter half of the month here. It just doesn't feel like Halloween if the weather isn't cool and crisp. If you don't believe in the greenhouse effect, move to Georgia. Chris H. -- Chris Howard lhoward@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~lhoward/ "Humans live best when each has his place to stand, when each knows where he belongs in the scheme of things and what he may achive. Destroy the place and you destroy the person." -Bene Gesserit teaching From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 28 12:30:26 1996 From: Steve_Kirkman_at_BI-USA@astec.com Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 11:56:58 -0800 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Arrrgh! Broken Fog Machine - Help! Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hi! We have an American DJ "Fog Hog" and I have the same problem regularly. The pump is a cheap oscillating unit with little check valves on the ends. The first time mine clogged, I took it to A-DJ and they replaced it. After that hassle I now clean mine out myself. It's not hard to do. Open the unit, remove the pump and disassemble it. Be careful not to lose any of the tiny pieces! Remove any particulate matter and *carefully* rinse out with water. Make sure the unit is thoroughly dry before reassembling. I test mine before re-installing it into my machine. I am looking into replacing my pump altogether to avoid this mess in the future and maybe getting some better quality fog juice as mentioned in a previous posting would help too. Good Luck and Happy Haunting! Steve and Lori Mufasa1023@aol.com ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Arrrgh! Broken Fog Machine - Help! Author: halloween-l@netcom.com at internet Date: 10/28/96 11:33 AM Arrrgh! So I'm in the middle of running the maze room at our church on Saturday night, and after about 5 minuets of pumping out the fog, my American DJ 150 machines decides that it doesn't want to play anymore. When it heats up and is ready to fire, you push the button and .... nothing happens. I can hear the pump trying to run (The solenoid(?) sounds like it's activating), but I can tell it's drawing in no juice. Any ideas or places to buy a new pump. I have no fear of opening it up and working on it. Thanks! jbase@popmail.lmu.edu From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 28 12:41:52 1996 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 15:25:55 -0400 From: Jason R To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Arrrgh! Broken Fog Machine - Help! Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com John Base wrote: > > Arrrgh! So I'm in the middle of running the maze room at our church Well I had mine open last week, for cleaing. From what it seems like there are two things to check. First, Is there fluid for it to pump out if so, is the tube from the jug cloged or kinkied. If that isnt it. There is time for surgery. {Now, so you know by opening the fogger you void your warntey} That said, open it up. You can see the pump. It will be to have the top unscrewed and the brass tube pulled out. You can check to make sure that it is okay. The spring is intact {It sounds like it is}. Also at the base of the pump is there is a outlet, coved by a screw. Unscrew that and try it. Fluid if your lucky will squirt out of that hold. Re-assemble and it should work again. If not. Call where your bought the thing, tell em you need it fixed and you want a replacment. Jay -- Jason R Member FDC {Beach Club lighting tech} VRC Homepage, Use it to find out ALL your Disney info needs. --Http://www.vivanet.com/~thelazer -- "I told'em the truth, and they fell for it"-Harry Anderson. From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 28 13:02:18 1996 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 15:46:26 -0800 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Moon Subject: Re: Arrrgh! Broken Fog Machine - Help! Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com >Arrrgh! So I'm in the middle of running the maze room at our church on >Saturday night, and after about 5 minuets of pumping out the fog, my >American DJ 150 machines decides that it doesn't want to play anymore. >When it heats up and is ready to fire, you push the button and .... >nothing happens. I can hear the pump trying to run (The solenoid(?) >sounds like it's activating), but I can tell it's drawing in no juice. >Any ideas or places to buy a new pump. I have no fear of opening it up >and working on it. Try cleaning the heat exchanger with some distilled water, works great, if thats not enough, then pull out the tank and see if the hose is clogged anywhere. Hope this helps, Moon 0=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-0 o Moon o | Fiberopt@pipeline.com | o -Happy Halloween- o | | o "From o to Witch in 2.1 Secconds" o | "Wicca, Its not a new wave of lawn junk" | 0=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-0 From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 28 13:02:21 1996 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 12:42:49 -0800 (PST) From: Nathan Wood To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Halloween mood music Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com If you can work under the floor then a motor with a crank arm might do the trick. Connect a rod from the back of the rocker down through the floor to an arm connected to a motor. * ******* * * * * * * | * * * * * * r | o | d | | _____ | | | ===|motor| arm| | ----- As the arm moves up the rocker will move forward and back when the arm comes down. If you can not go through the floor then you might want to try a bladder under the back rocker with a bleeder valve (aka hole) connected to an air line. Only problem is that you will have to find a way to pulse the air. Nathan woodn@lbcc.cc.or.us sargon9271@aol.com ************************************************************************ "Organ transplants are best left to professionals." Bart Simpson Chalkboard exercises that Bart writes during the opening credits. ************************************************************************ On Sun, 27 Oct 1996, Gary Engle wrote: > > Is there a contraption somewhere that will make a > rocking chair rock, with no one in it? Or is > this easy to make? > > ...Gary gengle@erols.com > From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 28 14:07:28 1996 From: milwiron@btprod.com Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 15:38:29 -0600 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Arrrgh! Broken Fog Machine - Help! Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 10:11 AM 10/28/96 -0700, you wrote: >Arrrgh! So I'm in the middle of running the maze room at our church on >Saturday night, and after about 5 minuets of pumping out the fog, my >American DJ 150 machines decides that it doesn't want to play anymore. >When it heats up and is ready to fire, you push the button and .... >nothing happens. If you're running American DJ fog fluid your heat exchanger is probably clogged. Try distilled water (and maybe a little vinegar... not if your warranty is intact) to blow out the garbage. If you can, buy a better quality of fluid. Denny From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 28 14:33:10 1996 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 15:13:15 -0600 From: Lauren Jones To: cstowell@cstone.net, halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Look what I have to deal with..... -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com I think it's time to call the police... From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 28 15:40:18 1996 From: Steve_Kirkman_at_BI-USA@astec.com Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 14:07:32 -0800 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Strange question time Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Jeanni wrote: >Kathy, >That wind storm that you got -- we got it too. So bad that it did in >our outdoor flying ghost... >... Just disappointed, oh well, there's still Halloween to get it all >fixed, battened down and hopefully no more wind!! >Jeanni Hi Jeanni and Kathy! It's nice to hear from fellow Southern Californians. We are here in Cypress and had some pretty good winds also. In fact we haven't even started to put stuff out yet! (talk about procrastination!) You both sound like you have some great displays and we would love to drive by and take a look before the big day. You also mentioned in your post that you made a cardboard haunted house and a 12 foot styrofoam cemetery sign. Can you send me details? Where did you get the foam? We want to make something similar for next year and I need to start gathering sources and info. Thanks and Happy Haunting Lori and Steve Mufasa1020@aol.com Steve_Kirkman_at_BI-USA@astec.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 28 15:53:39 1996 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 15:36:18 -0800 (PST) From: Nathan Wood To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Anti-mask Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Last night I had taped my Dark Illusions vacuform skull to our kitchen window. This morning I was eating breakfast in a dark kitchen with our porch light on when I discovered that the back lighting of the vacuform created a great anti-mask. The whole time I was in the kitchen the skull was turning it's head to follow me (Haunted Mansion Busts). I was going to use it in a two way mirror device but now have other ideas. Nathan woodn@lbcc.cc.or.us sargon9271@aol.com ************************************************************************ "Organ transplants are best left to professionals." Bart Simpson Chalkboard exercises that Bart writes during the opening credits. ************************************************************************ From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 28 16:16:03 1996 From: JeanniSkip@aol.com Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 18:55:48 -0500 To: Halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: The party's over... Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Until Thursday, anyway... Well, after recovering from my disappointment with the unexpected wind storm (and loss of our outdoor flying ghost) on Friday, Saturday and Sunday - I am happy to report my party was a success despite the missing ghost. After all, most of the outside attractions did not affect the partygoers (inside). One of the biggest surprises to me was how many folks loved my Dead Man Meatloaf... I have to say that while molding this meatloaf corpse I started to feel a little perverse... I only had about 20 guests (after inviting about 50) and the biggest problem was that only about 4 rsvp'd they were not coming! Does this happen all across the country, or is it indicative of Los Angelenos bad manners...??? Well, good news...the Santa Ana winds are cancelled for Halloween! and everything should be terrific weather wise!!! Our ghost will rise again.... Happy Haunting all... Jeanni From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 28 17:47:17 1996 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 17:32:16 -0800 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Greg Hope Subject: Re: The party's over... Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 06:55 PM 10/28/96 -0500, you wrote: >I only had about 20 guests (after inviting about 50) and the biggest problem was that only about 4 rsvp'd they were not coming! Does this happen all across the country, or is it indicative of Los Angelenos bad manners...??? >Jeanni Although I can't claim to be an authority on either Los Angelenos or parties, we do a fair amount of entertaining. You didn't say how you invited your guests, but we have learned that a mailed invitation usually isn't enough. The typical guest needs a telephone call from the host to confirm his attendance, usually about a week before the party. Also, we've found it helps to have each guest bring something for a party - even if you're the type that likes to provide everything - because a guest is less likely to blow off a party when he thinks the host is depending on him for his contribution. Seems funny, doesn't it - why wouldn't you go to a party if you didn't have a prior commitment? Greg H (619)945-4424 F (619)726-2804 E ghope@mailhost.csusm.edu From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 28 18:30:07 1996 Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 16:15:52 -0800 From: Mike Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: NEVER GOING TO BE DONE! Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Tony, Welcome to the hell that is Halloween!! We put up the tarp on the top of the framework and bang 40mph winds and all gone...down and but more!! The people at the local hardware store are all coming to check it out!! They are now calling me the Halloween lady!! Kathy the new kid on the crypt From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 28 19:10:17 1996 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 18:53:11 -0800 From: Greenrey To: Lauren Jones Subject: Re: Spine-Chilling Ghost .WAV and Creepy Screen-savers Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Dear Lauren, Concerning both the ghost.wav and screen savers (they're in .scr format that you copy into your windows directory), in order to save myself the uploading time that the quantity of requests I received for them via email required, I've put them into various .zip files and made them available at my website. Just follow the directions to "The Dungeon," and you can't miss them. I've also compiled 14 MIDI files appropriate to the season. Hope you enjoy it all. http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1982/ Best Wishes, Aaron -- "When in danger or in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout." --Robert Heinlein greenrey@worldnet.att.net -or- awynnhi@kes.miracosta.cc.ca.us Visit Greenrey's Study at: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1982/ From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 28 19:11:21 1996 Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 16:53:32 -0800 From: Mike Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Strange Question time Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Jeanni, we have discovered that the minute we put the first stake in the ground the wind starts blowing, the sky grows dark, and the weather goes to H#$%$!!! Kathy From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 28 20:19:51 1996 Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 22:52:14 -0500 From: Craig Lewis To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: NEVER GOING TO BE DONE! Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Mike Marcrum wrote: > The people at the local hardware store are all coming to check it out!! > They are now calling me the Halloween lady!! > Kathy > the new kid on the crypt I know what you mean! I went to Radio Shack today to buy a power supply. While looking, I heard somebody yell at me...."So, what kind of monster are you building this year?" It was a sales person who saw me come in the store the same time last year. He can't wait to bring his family Halloween night. Craig -- CyberImage- Custom Caps, Shirts & Color ID Badges...GREAT HALLOWEEN SHIRTS & CAPS! http://www.intrlink.com/~cyber Be Sure to Visit Our Halloween Page at: http://www.intrlink.com/~cyber/halloween From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 28 20:46:58 1996 From: GFerris330@aol.com Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 23:28:47 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re:Pumpkin Masters Pattern Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hi, I'm trying without luck to get my hands on the Pumkin Masters pattern of Frankenstein. I believe that it was included in last year's kit. I have written to the company but I'm yet to get a response. Does anybody out there have a scan of this pattern that they would be willing to e-mail me. I'm running out of time. Greg in Rochester, NY From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 28 20:59:53 1996 From: htraver@dreamsys.com Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 20:45:22 -0700 Subject: Re: Knotts Halloween Haunt: REVIEW (LONG) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Bill, did you catch the Hanging to review it? It was VERY frenetic, keeping the crowd in stictches. Catch my review of it on here :) I tend to disagree on the TT review, I gave it less. More like a B, I would say. More reviews, speaking of: Santa Monia Pier: Sea Maze. Hard to judge. Low budget, they only had 2 weeks to set it up. Last minute sort of thing. Originally, they wanted to get Jeff (forgot his last name) from House of Terror in anaheim., That deal fell through. 3 managers of the Pacific Park previously worked at the park so their experience helped pull this one through. In terms of on it's own, it would rate about a 6.5, but the price was a quite reasonable $3 for it. So the bang for the buck goes a little higher. I had spokenb to one of the managers about things and gave him my card which has "haunted house design" on it :) A friend worked the haunted house, so I offered to help in the design for next year. Next time, it will go into the bumper cars building on the pier, so if I get a lead, my little mind is working some dastardly schemes to make a haunted house at least an 8.5 on the terror scale. If you are down at the pier, it's worth trying. Puzzle Zoo, Santa Monica, 3rd Street Promenade: Puzzle Zoo is a store on the Promenade, this is their 2nd year doing a house. They used a record store front on 4th street and created an alien invasion scenario. Michael Burnett studios created the things inside. It was basically a scenario type of haunted house which loses points because they only run ab out 3-6 people very minute or so, making the line horrendouly slow. Cost is $6. It begins with a worker from Area 51 explaining what you will see. You then go into the Roswell crash area then into Hangar 18 then area 51. The usual alien cliches. The effects were pretty top notch and it told a good story. The rating suffers because it took over 2 hours waiting in a line with 60 or so people. Rating: 8.5 (if no line) Rating: 5 (with the line, we ended up walking through it in a rather pissy mood). Will review more local ones as I catch them until the magic day. Harry who hates SLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWW lines.... [ Sent From: Dreamscape Systems - dreamsys.com ] [ Location: Van Nuys, CA - (818) 781-7529 ] From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Oct 28 21:27:05 1996 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 00:10:01 -0500 From: Craig Lewis To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Craig's page! Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Greg Hope wrote: > > >CyberImage- Custom Caps, Shirts & Color ID Badges...GREAT HALLOWEEN > >SHIRTS & CAPS! > >http://www.intrlink.com/~cyber > >Be Sure to Visit Our Halloween Page at: > >http://www.intrlink.com/~cyber/halloween > > > Craig, I just visited your web page and I want to compliment you on all the > time and effort you put into it. Your projects look great and I think it's > fantastic that you have posted "in progress" pictures. Will you tell the > rest of us more about Mr. Bones when you have time? > > Thanks for a great page! Thanks! Of couse I have found it really tough to keep it updated as we got closer to the big day! I took vacation time to get a lot of it completed! Saturday the 26th we hosted a small party for exchange students. About half of the display was done, we had to quite because of the nasty four letter word, rain! Then I worked all day Sunday and Monday to get ready for Monday night. We had an open house....kinda like a trial run. A few bugs to get fixed for Tuesday! Thats when we will be on live at the 5pm news. They are doing a feature story on us. I will be really busy getting a few bugs fixed for then. If you are interested, please check us out at http://www.intrlink.com/~cyber/halloween and see the latest! I have even put pictures of the latest costume addition. It is REALLY GREAT!!!!! Craig -- CyberImage- Custom Caps, Shirts & Color ID Badges...GREAT HALLOWEEN SHIRTS & CAPS! http://www.intrlink.com/~cyber Be Sure to Visit Our Halloween Page at: http://www.intrlink.com/~cyber/halloween From owner-xmas-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 29 04:17:52 1996 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 07:05:32 -0500 (EST) From: RevCOAL To: halloween-l@netcom.com, xmas-l@netcom.com Subject: Holiday website Reply-To: xmas-l@netcom.com ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 06:39:23 -0500 (EST) Subject: NBNews Journal - 10/28/96 (fwd) ******************************************************************* REF> World Wide Holidays and Festivals http://www.smiley.cy.net/bdecie/index.html A comprehensive listing of holidays and festivals throughout the world. Listed by country. Also includes index of movable holidays. ------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 29 04:19:39 1996 From: Jacqui Young To: "'GFerris330@aol.com'" , "halloween-l@netcom.com" Subject: RE: Pumpkin Masters Pattern Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 07:04:36 -0500 Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Okay Greg, how much time do you have. I probably have the pattern at = home, I think I have all of their books. Anyhow the earliest I could = scan and mail would be tomorrow morning. Is that soon enough? Jacqui jacqui.young@cciw.ca Hi, I'm trying without luck to get my hands on the Pumkin Masters pattern of Frankenstein. I believe that it was included in last year's kit. I have written to the company but I'm yet to get a response. Does = anybody out there have a scan of this pattern that they would be willing to = e-mail me. I'm running out of time. Greg in Rochester, NY From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 29 04:20:26 1996 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 07:01:05 -0500 (EST) From: RevCOAL To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Halloween 'specials' Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Haven't checked out the following, but it sounded interesting.... Donna ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 11:40:25 MDT From: Cecilia Franco White Subject: Free E-card Links page Hi, This well organized site has ID'd its halloween specials. a-k http://www.concentric.net/~ladydi2/index5a.html l-z http://www.concentric.net/~ladydi2/index5b.html Cecilia Cecilia Franco White http://rt66.com/~korteng/besturl.htm ------------------------------ From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 29 04:24:48 1996 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 07:05:32 -0500 (EST) From: RevCOAL To: halloween-l@netcom.com, xmas-l@netcom.com Subject: Holiday website Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 06:39:23 -0500 (EST) Subject: NBNews Journal - 10/28/96 (fwd) ******************************************************************* REF> World Wide Holidays and Festivals http://www.smiley.cy.net/bdecie/index.html A comprehensive listing of holidays and festivals throughout the world. Listed by country. Also includes index of movable holidays. ------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 29 04:45:28 1996 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 07:30:28 -0500 (EST) From: Nancy Miller To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Strange question time Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Me, too! I would love to hear more about the 12-foot sign, the materials and how you created it!!! On Mon, 28 Oct 1996 Steve_Kirkman_at_BI-USA@astec.com wrote: > Jeanni wrote: > >Kathy, > > >That wind storm that you got -- we got it too. So bad that it did in > >our outdoor flying ghost... > > >... Just disappointed, oh well, there's still Halloween to get it all > >fixed, battened down and hopefully no more wind!! > > >Jeanni > > Hi Jeanni and Kathy! > > It's nice to hear from fellow Southern Californians. We are here in > Cypress and had some pretty good winds also. In fact we haven't even > started to put stuff out yet! (talk about procrastination!) You both > sound like you have some great displays and we would love to drive by > and take a look before the big day. > > You also mentioned in your post that you made a cardboard haunted > house and a 12 foot styrofoam cemetery sign. Can you send me details? > Where did you get the foam? We want to make something similar for > next year and I need to start gathering sources and info. > > Thanks and Happy Haunting > Lori and Steve > Mufasa1020@aol.com > Steve_Kirkman_at_BI-USA@astec.com > ****************************************** namiller@umich.edu/NPPC/Phoenix Rising, Inc. It's a magical world, Hobbes, Ol'Buddy...let's go exploring! -- Calvin's last words,12/31/95 From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 29 06:11:13 1996 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 96 09:58:02 EST From: Stuart McIntire To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: The party's over... Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Jeanni asks: >I only had about 20 guests (after inviting about 50) and the biggest problem >was that only about 4 rsvp'd they were not coming! Does this happen all >across the country, or is it indicative of Los Angelenos bad manners...??? Hi, Jeanni. Here in the DC suburbs (Maryland) where one would (supposedly) expect people to be "sophisticated," people around us have no inkling what RSVP means. We always put RSVP on our invitations - no one ever calls. I guess the concept is too advanced for them. So then we write out "Please call to let us know if you will be here." No calls. One year we were having a birthday party for our oldest daughter when she was about 5 or 6. A neighbor told my wife that her daughter would be happy to come and that we could expect her. The girl never showed up (her parents "forgot"). And when they pulled into their driveway and saw the balloons outside, they never acknowledged their error. Nor did they ever, even when the subject of the party came up in casual conversation. A lot of kids these days haven't even a concept of please or thank you ingrained into them...I hate to think how they'll be when they're older. From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 29 06:44:42 1996 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 08:35:46 -0600 From: David Kiihne To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Halloween TV special Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com There is a special on PBS on October 30 that I think some of you might enjoy. [Listing blatantly plagiarized from PBS' online schedule - www.pbs.org] PBS Wednesday, October 30 8:00pm (Central - Check your local times) CINCINNATI POPS HOLIDAY: ERICH KUNZEL'S HALLOWEEN SPOOKTACULAR - [60min] Robert Guillaume, Tom Wopat, illusionists Jonathan and Charlotte Pendragon, and the barbershop quartet Marquis join maestro Erich Kunzel and the Cincinnati Pops Orchestra for a fun-filled evening of scary visual effects and atmospheric music from such works as "Psycho," "The Phantom of the Opera" and "Sleuth." Also: a mini-musical based on "The Legend of Sleepy Hollow"; Halloween-oriented selections such as "Danse Macabre," "Funeral March of the Marionettes" and "In the Hall of the Mountain King." [End blatant plagiarism] I know, I know... "CULTURE!! AAAaaahhhhh!!!" I just figured some of you out there might enjoy a program like this. Dave - daveki@nebfef.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 29 07:18:23 1996 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 96 10:08:04 EST To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Bill Lewis Subject: Re: The party's over... Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 09:58 AM 10/29/96 EST, you wrote: > A lot of kids these days haven't even a concept of please or > thank you ingrained into them...I hate to think how they'll > be when they're older. Maybe when they get to the rebellious stage they'll do so by being polite. Bill Lewis NSWC Carderock Division Code 6060 (301) 227-2742 lewisw@oasys.dt.navy.mil lewisb@erols.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 29 07:27:12 1996 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 10:10:56 -0500 From: Rob Freeman To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: The party's over... Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com JeanniSkip@aol.com wrote: > I only had about 20 guests (after inviting about 50) and the biggest problem > was that only about 4 rsvp'd they were not coming! I invite about 200 people to my party each year, and typically 40 to 45 show up. Your 40% turnout is rather good for this type of party. I ask that people do not RSVP, because I'd be on the phone for the week before the party hearing lame excuses why people can't come. The worst is, "I can't find a babysitter," since I send invitations out a month ahead of time. What I find most annoying are those people that tell you, more than once, that they are coming and are working on these great costumes and then don't show up. But after 14 years of doing this, I have lowered my expectations of people. Each year I go through the invitation list and scratch off those that promise to come, but never do. That way, I am not so disappointed. Once, somebody who got scratched off had the gall to call me and ask if the party was cancelled that year! The best turnout that I had, about 65 people, was the year that I put 'Costumes Optional' on the invitation. Sure, I had more guests, but the atmosphere was different. Those that wore costumes felt that everyone should have taken even the smallest amount of time to come up with a costume. So that's the last time I did that. I still get people that don't wear costumes, but they get razzed by everybody else. I guess I just have to get a better class of fiends...errr..friends. -- Happy Haunting Rob Freeman freemanr@oeonline.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 29 07:35:29 1996 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Anne Rice appearance 10/30 From: rodney3@juno.com (Rodney G Grantham) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 10:26:18 EST Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com *********************************** * Tomorrow on Networks/Prime Time * *********************************** - ELLEN - Anne Rice guest stars as herself in this episode in which Ellen and Paige return to camp for a reunion. (8p ET, ABC) From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 29 08:10:18 1996 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 96 12:00:40 EST From: Stuart McIntire To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re[2]: The party's over... Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Bill sez: >> A lot of kids these days haven't even a concept of please >> or thank you ingrained into them...I hate to think how >> they'll be when they're older. >Maybe when they get to the rebellious stage they'll do so by being polite. ROTFL! Oh Bill...you crack me up... Yup, you're probably right. :) And in a similar vein, just think of all those kids of conservative parentage who rebelled in the 60s by becoming "long-haired pinkos." Will their kids rebel by becoming straight laced red tie, white shirt, black slacks "crew cutted fascists?" ;) - Stu stuart.mcintire@uage.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 29 08:10:45 1996 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 07:34:07 -0700 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Site Visit Report Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Last night I decided to roll on up to Bill Lewis' house and check out his yard. Loved it! Laytonsville is a lovely small town/rural area, and Bill's house is right for haunting. He had a green-glowing ghost on one side of his porch with a jack-o'-lantern in the window behind, and a skeleton in a double spider web in the chair swing on the other. A great little cemetery lie under a big old tree on the lawn. He used sections of old, ornate estate fencing to enclose three sides of his graves, and his styrofoam headstones were beautiful (did you carve these yourself?)! I especially liked the one with the bat on top, and the skeleton protruding from the ground was wonderful. The piece de resistance was the grim reaper, glowing red eyes in a realistic skull, hovering above. I thought he was suspended from that marvelous tree nearby (you must incorporate it more next year, although it's the perfect shelter for the cemetery!), but he was invisibly supported from a pole beneath. If the wind comes up more than it did last night, the reaper will really look like he's flying. Bill was very modest about his yard on this list, and although he may think it's not much, the artful way he arranged and lighted everything--especially that cemetery--really has the spirit. I really marveled at the vertical and horizontal angles of the fence sections. Perfect. The only complaint I have is that damned motion sensor porch light that caught me sneaking up to the skeleton on the porch (give a poor ghoul a break!). Oh, and other cars kept coming down the road so I had to pull into the driveway--I'm afraid Bill may have to put in a parking lot... From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 29 08:46:48 1996 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:15:16 +0000 From: Sherri Osborn To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: The party's over... Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com > Jeanni asks: > >I only had about 20 guests (after inviting about 50) and the biggest problem >was that only about 4 rsvp'd they were not coming! Does this happen all >across the country, or is it indicative of Los Angelenos bad manners...??? We always write RSVP on our invites - but it's a joke. Here it sits 4 days before our party, and we have gotten 3 responses. THe best year we had as far as RSVP's, was when we had "admission" as $5.00 at the door or $3.00 in advance. We got a lot of responses that year. We usually invite around 150 and get 75-100 people, so we have a great turn out! Can't wait, only 4 days to go! Sherri http://www.geocities.com/heartland/7997/ From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 29 08:55:07 1996 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 09:14:39 -0700 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Halloween Movies Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Just this morning I remembered something for the kids. There is an entire Halloween sequence in the old movie "Meet Me in St. Louis." It's a turn of the century celebration with kids making bonfires, playing minor pranks (include "killing" people by blowing flour in their faces). This is the part that often gets cut out on commercial TV. I didn't know the scene existed until I happened to stumble across the same film on cable later. From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 29 10:00:55 1996 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 09:50:36 -0700 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com, greenrey@worldnet.att.net Subject: Sorry!--RE Maniacal Multimedia -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Please send...ljones@aphis.usda.gov >>> Greenrey 10/17/96 03:02pm >>> Hi-- Sorry I didn't specify how to get the zip of 1 wave and 2 MIDI files--just email me at greenrey@worldnet.att.net. It was almost 2am when I wrote the post, and so in my weariness, forgot to include this info. Any requests that I'd received by noon today (Thursday) have been sent out. Aaron -- "When in danger or in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout." --Robert Heinlein greenrey@worldnet.att.net -or- awynnhi@kes.miracosta.cc.ca.us Visit Greenrey's Study at: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1982/ From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 29 10:01:10 1996 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 09:56:12 -0800 From: Bob Andrews To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Weather report Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com "Partly cloudy tonight, sunny tomorrow", it said on the radio last night as I finished painting my faux stone pillars for my faux wrought iron fence. I painted them outdoors, on my back deck. 3:30 am I was out on my deck, soaked from the rain as I brought my pillars into my family room. They forcast partly cloudy for Halloween. -- Bob Andrews bandrews@inreach.com http://www.anaserve.com/~BoBandrews From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 29 10:19:21 1996 From: qoe@sna.com Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 10:02:41 -0800 (PST) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: RSVP banter Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com My friends and I talk about RSVPing and why people don't do it and then when it comes time for them to do it THEY DON'T! I don't know what's wrong with people. I started having a prize for the first person to RSVP. That helps some. As far as people coming without a costume I warn them that if they do show up uncostumed that my Red Riding Hood costume will be warmed up and ready for them. That works too. :-) __________________________ |\/\/\/\/\/| Lynne Miles \0 0 0 0 / qoe@sna.com |~~~~~~| Orangvale, CA From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 29 10:38:39 1996 From: "Singing Sue & Computer Dan" To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 13:28:54 +0000 Subject: RE: Now I'm depressed... :( Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com > >Relocate the cats!!! > > > I wasn't sure if you were joking or not, but removing the cats doesn't do > it. It's all their hair or/and dander that gets us wheezing and puffing up. > All the vacuuming in the world won't do it. My folks haven't had a cat for > about 5 years maybe longer and I still have a mild reaction when I stay the > night there. You can get a clean air machine. We have a friend that useto be able to stay only 10 min before he had to leave and this year he was here the whole time. he even sat right by the cleaner..I have nasty plant alergies and that helps me through sleepomg at night with out having a pluged nose. Hubby got it for me a year a go this christmas and I love it !! Singing sue skoelke@metronet.com smiles are worth millions. :):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):) Check out my singing on my WWW page.... http://www.metronet.com/~skoelke/ From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 29 10:45:59 1996 From: glenn@zuni.chaco.com (Glenn Crocker) Subject: Re: RSVP banter To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 10:26:50 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com >My friends and I talk about RSVPing and why people don't do it and then when >it comes time for them to do it THEY DON'T! I don't know what's wrong with >people. I started having a prize for the first person to RSVP. That helps >some. As far as people coming without a costume I warn them that if they do >show up uncostumed that my Red Riding Hood costume will be warmed up and >ready for them. That works too. :-) I have really good success with email invitations that ask people to RSVP with pizza topping preferences and things like that. It doesn't require much time to email a reply, and there's a compelling personal reason to RSVP. -glenn From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 29 11:05:36 1996 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 96 12:51:13 CST To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: robdoc@www.startribune.com (Robyn Dochterman) Subject: Re: Creepy ScreenSavers? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Here's the URL from which I downloaded the screen saver. It's called Flying Perfect. http://www.coolshare.com/html/SAVERS.HTM#S_FP SOrry it took me so long to respond. I'm still recovering from the Halloween party we had Saturday night. --Robyn >It's taking me forever to catch up on email! >Could the person who has posted the message >below let me know what computer this runs on >(Windows, Mac?) and send me a copy? I use >both computers, so either or both would be >great! Thanks! >==================================I >I came across a different Halloween >screensaver, but it wasn't too scary, >>either. It had bones and skulls flying across >the screen and exploding when >>they hit each other. It did have one of those >"note-pad" thingies, where >>people who come looking for you can leave a >message when you're not at your >>computer. Holler if you want me to dig up the >site it was at. > Robyn Dochterman Interactive editor Star Tribune Online Robdoc@startribune.com http://www.startribune.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 29 11:08:41 1996 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 96 12:58:55 CST To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: robdoc@www.startribune.com (Robyn Dochterman) Subject: Re: Dead or Alive Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com >Does anyone know the website for the Dead or Alive game? >Thanks, >Mary Ann >Another house haunter... > Hey Mary Ann, I made an Alive, Dead or Not a Person game for our website, as part of a whole Halloween area. Here's the URL: http://www.startribune.com/stonline/html/fungames/boo/ Hope you enjoy it. --Robyn Robyn Dochterman Interactive editor Star Tribune Online Robdoc@startribune.com http://www.startribune.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 29 11:41:11 1996 From: "D. Joseph Creighton" Subject: Re: Weather report To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 13:29:22 -0600 (CST) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com In the last exciting episode, Bob Andrews wrote: } "Partly cloudy tonight, sunny tomorrow", it said on the radio last night ... } They forcast partly cloudy for Halloween. Wednesday here calls for snow, temperatures of about -8C, and winds up to some 50 km/h. It *may* clear up enough for Hallowe'en evening... *sigh* - Joe -- "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a rigged demo" http://www.ee.umanitoba.ca/~djc/ D. Joseph Creighton [ESTP]\ Sr. Programmer, DB Support: Administrative Systems Joe_Creighton@UManitoba.CA \ University of Manitoba Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 29 12:06:38 1996 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 14:54:54 From: JBKadel@gnn.com (Jim Kadel) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Blood Fountain Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com As the eleventh hour approaches, I wonder if someone would be able to save me some time and money in experimentation? My question has to do with those chemical light sticks that are activated by striking, breaking capsule, and mixing the chemicals. I have a fountain powered by a pump (2 quarts of liquid minimum) in which a skull is spitting liguid into an urn beneath it. I'd like to have the liquid spit by the skull be glowing red. 1) Can I get this effect by pouring a limited quantity, say "three or four light sticks" worth of glow chemical into this amount of cold water? ...or must all the liquid in the fountain be the chemical glow fluid? 2) Alternatively, as this fountain can placed where it can be bathed in blacklite, is there an easily found fluorescent "red liguid" that could be used? My Bloody Thanks, ***************************************** Jim Kadel (JBKadel@gnn.com) soul producer of "Haunted Porch" ***************************************** From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 29 12:48:25 1996 From: "David S. Allan" To: "'Halloween'" Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 15:35:26 -0500 Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com ------ =_NextPart_000_01BBC5AE.D2ADAF80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just got this from CPSC's listserv. Thought the list might be interested. Regards, David dallan@dow.com ------------------------------------- For Immediate Release Contact: Hannah Simone October 30, 1996 (301) 504-0580 Ext. 1185 Release # 97-011 CPSC and Russ Berrie and Company Announce Halloween Hand Candle Recall WASHINGTON, D.C. - In cooperation with the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC), Russ Berrie and Company Inc. of Oakland, N.J., is recalling about 67,600 hand-shaped, five wick Glowing Gore Halloween candles and about 17,600 hand-shaped, five wick Dem Bones Halloween candles. The hand-shaped wax candles generate high flames that may present a fire hazard. The Dem Bones and Glowing Gore wax candles are hand shaped with five fingers each having individual wicks. The candle flames may reach 10 inches high as the candles melt down to the palm with the wicks of the five fingers burning together Russ Berrie and Company has received no reports of excess flames or injuries associated with the Glowing Gore and Dem Bones Halloween candles. This recall is being conducted to prevent injuries and fires. The hand-shaped Glowing Gore wax candle is skin-toned and red colored with candle wicks in each finger. The Dem Bones wax candle is pale green and dark green colored with candle wicks in each finger. Both candles are 7.5 inches high with labels on the plastic wrapping under the hand reading either, "DEM BONES ...DRIPPING OOZE CANDLE," or "GLOWING GORE ..DRIPPING BLOOD CANDLE." Speciality gift stores, drug stores, and some grocery stores sold the candles nationwide (the Glowing Gore wax candle from March 1994 to October 1996 and the Dem Bones candles beginning March 1996) for about $6. Consumers should immediately stop using the hand shaped Glowing Gore and Dem Bones five wick wax candles and return them to the place of purchase for a refund of the purchase price. 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Where do you live and next year are the Halloween-L > subscribers invited? Sure, St. Paul, MN. The party is Sat. Nov.2nd, wear warm clothes though, it's supposed to be a little nippy! Sherri http://www.geocities.com/heartland/7997 From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 29 13:07:44 1996 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 15:53:53 -0500 (EST) From: Nancy Miller To: "D. Joseph Creighton" Subject: Re: Weather report Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Well, the bright side is that the pumpkins will really, really show up against the snow and won't have to be refrigerated. Michigan always seems to be cold (40 degrees) and pelting down icy rain on Halloween. Last few years was brutal for the kids, I watched parents driving their kids around (my neighborhood has infrequent houses participating in the wonderful holiday decorating and fun) Would that we could all have that clear, fall night of about 60 degrees, a slight wind (to help fly bats and ghosts), a huge harvest full moon, plenty of crispy leaves on the ground to crunch and slosh through and entire neighborhoods decorating and participating. My wish for all of you in the Northern and extreme Southern states. No flames warm weather states - you haven't had a Halloween till you've had one like the one I suggest above. ******************************* > Wednesday here calls for snow, temperatures of about -8C, and winds up to > some 50 km/h. It *may* clear up enough for Hallowe'en evening... > > *sigh* > > - Joe > -- > "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a rigged demo" > http://www.ee.umanitoba.ca/~djc/ > D. Joseph Creighton [ESTP]\ Sr. Programmer, DB Support: Administrative Systems > Joe_Creighton@UManitoba.CA \ University of Manitoba Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada > ****************************************** namiller@umich.edu/NPPC/Phoenix Rising, Inc. It's a magical world, Hobbes, Ol'Buddy...let's go exploring! -- Calvin's last words,12/31/95 From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 29 13:10:19 1996 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 13:00:33 -0800 (PST) To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Rick Hill Subject: Greetings! Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Just reporting in. No I didn't die (although in the spirit of the season....). I took last week off to go to Knott's Scary Farm (actually last Friday and weekend) and spend five days completing preparations for our annual haunted party on 10/26. Knott's Scary Farm wazs a scream! Really had a lot of fun. Many themed haunted hiuses (they call 'em mazes), haunted rides and scary shows. The log ride, mine ride, the mazes, the light show, the "Dead Monsters of Rock Live" show, the zillions of fog machines engulfing the entire park in perpetual cloads of fog and mist, the hundreds of well costumed actors in the attractions on wandering the grounds...all really cool. Worth the money and the trip. As time allows, perhaps I will write a more descriptive review, if there is interest. Since our party was this last Saturday, I'm finished decorating! All I need to do is to move about 8 dummies into the garage and rearrange my coffin and crypt and I will be ready for the big night as well. I understand the stress that many of you are feeling as you try to finish it all on time. Remember, if you don't get it all doone, no one knows but you! Concentrate on the important stuff and if necessary, let the little stuff slide...until next year! Someone asked if the list persisted throughout the year. But of course! In fact my goal now is to clean up before Thanksgiving (which would be faster than last year). update my log book (what worked, waht didn't what to improve and so on) and then start working on next year's effects. A major effect a month is my goal. I spent a lot of time reorgnaizing and rebuilding some props this year to make them easier to store and setup. I plan to do more of that with stuff I already have as well as incorporate these same features into all new effects. Richard Hill Information Systems Manager Office Phone: (916) 757-3002 UCD Bookstore FAX: (916) 757-3010 UC Davis E-Mail: rrhill@ucdavis.edu From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 29 13:31:44 1996 Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 16:09:00 -0500 From: ROGER ALEXANDER To: HALLOWEEN-L@netcom.com Subject: bad weather for haunts Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Don't feel bad folks! We had our family haunted barn Saturday night at which 276 attended last year. This year, due to 3 inches of rain and lots of mud, less than a hundred showed. Cold and damp also. :-( Oh well... there's always next year! And for it, the flying ghost, trashcan terror, and all the rest of the great things and ideas I've found via this list and the web sites you all have. Keep up the ghoulish work! ;) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Roger Alexander Phone: 812-854-4748 Naval Surface Warfare Center Fax: 812-854-3508 Bldg 64 Code 111RA Crane, IN 47522 INTERNET: rda413@smtp.nwscc.sea06.navy.mil Supporting the Fleet through Supply! From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 29 13:54:40 1996 From: JeanniSkip@aol.com Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 16:36:42 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Strange Question time Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Kathy wrote <> Boy did you ever call it!!! Right about now according to our local weather forecaster, the area between San Fran and Sacto are getting about 3/4" of rain!!! (aren't you in that vicinity??) Sorry, Kathy...if it makes you feel better it's headed my way.... Jeanni From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 29 13:54:41 1996 From: JeanniSkip@aol.com Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 16:36:45 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Graveyard Sign and Haunted House Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com To quote Kathy earlier....SSSSCCCCRRRRREEEEEEEAAAAMMMMMM...... Hi everyone (calmer now) - I just wanted to acknowledge the requests for directions to make the Cemetery Sign and Haunted House...I attempted to write a hurried description, but it just isn't clear. Please be patient, and I''ll post detailed directions AFTER the big day.... I'm spending the little extra time I don't have preparing for rain instead!!! Darn, this sure is fun... Jeanni From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 29 13:54:50 1996 From: JeanniSkip@aol.com Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 16:36:33 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: The party's over... Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Greg wrote: > Yes, Rob, I wholeheartedly agree.... Stu wrote: < We always put RSVP on our invitations - no one ever calls. I guess the concept is too advanced for them. So then we write out "Please call to let us know if you will be here." No calls. One year we were having a birthday party for our oldest daughter when she was about 5 or 6. A neighbor told my wife that her daughter would be happy to come and that we could expect her. The girl never showed up (her parents "forgot"). > Hi Stu -- I have an 8 year old boy and have come to expect this kind of response for the kids parties..typically no one ever RSVP's for those....but I guess I had higher hopes for an *adult* party.... and Bill wrote: Bill, I just love sadism...oops, er...uh, I mean Sarcasm!! ...Jeanni in a sadistic/sarcastic mood... :D Plus I just spent 3 -- count them, 3 *blanking* hours driving stakes, tying down, taping and covering everything (that I didn't already bring inside) for a pissy little 1/4" to 1/2" of forecast rain....is this some kind of omen??? (Don, can I say *blanking*???) From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Oct 29 13:55:35 1996 From: JeanniSkip@aol.com Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 16:36:44 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Haunted Hollow Cemetery Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com In a message dated 96-10-28 17:26:31 EST, Lori & Steve wrote: << You both sound like you have some great displays and we would love to drive by and take a look before the big day. >> Hey Lori & Steve! I am in Tarzana (San Fernando Valley) in LA, and I believe Kathy is in Northern California near Sacramento (Kathy????) somewhere....