>> YUCK!!! But it does give me a idea....a small opening where they can >> see some big ugly bugs, but so dark they can see nothing else. And then >> put ceral, the crunchy kind, on the floor...They walk, see bugs, and >> hear a crunching sound!! What do you think!! Nice touch as they go into >> the mummy's house!! >> Kathy >> the new kid on the crypt >> mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com > >Now that one is great and soooo easy & effective. Except for the bug-wrangling part. >(which isn't too hard here in Texas. Cattle aren't the only things we grow big here.) >I like the small opening idea. People just _hate_ to be confronted with bugs out of >nowhere and right up in their faces! And I'm all for cheap sound effects! > >karen p >cproctor@flash.net > Wrangling some big ugly bugs? What in tarnation is wrong with getting some big plastic bugs at a nature shop or toy store, or making some Creepy Crawlers? With hidden wires, you could make the fake bugs jiggle or scoot - and in the dark, who's to know whether they're real or fake? - Fearless Freya of Arty Atlanta _____ / \ | |||| | THERE'S | |||| | ONE \ /||||\ / IN | | |||| | | EVERY | | |||| | | CROWD! | | | | ~ ~ From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Nov 8 18:33:43 1996 From: "Jim Baggett" To: Subject: Puzzled Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 20:57:38 -0500 Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Could someone let me know if my last post about our haunted woods showed on the list. It was in my mail but then I recieved a message saying it was undeliverable. Thanks, Charmaine From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Nov 8 18:52:05 1996 From: cloudy@wolfenet.com Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 18:31:14 -0800 (PST) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: My Fellow Halloweeners Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com I agree, lets not get caught up in semantics, either. Although I, too, have felt the elistist vibe on the posts, I contribute only when I feel I have something decent to say. I am new to the list as of this year and think its so great how everyone helps each other out. My husband and I built the fog machine (something I never would have thought of) and then when he came up with a way to use a coffee maker for one, we shared the idea, whether it was a good one or not. The way I see it is that the list is to be read and enjoyed by all who love Halloween. Some of you seem to have a relationship like close friends, and all of us just can't fit in there. So whats the harm in "lurking" in the shadows a bit. I'm not making money or stealing ideas or anything like that. How can you steal something that is readily offered? Colleen and Jeff > >I would just like to say that I have enjoyed this list, and I have learned >many great ideas. I cannot say that I have contributed more than I have >learned. But I would not consider myself a "lurker". My feeling is, why tie >up the list if I don't have something solid to contribute to a thread? > >We are dealing with a medium (e-mail) where we never see each other's faces, >hear each other's voices, etc. People are "programmed", I believe, to take >many cues from the tone of people's voices or the expression on their faces. >We have to come up with a new way to express ourselves using e-mail. That is >why many people use little smiley faces :), etc. to get their emotions across. > > >Let's not get caught up in arguing over semantics, or who is "hardcore" or who >is a "lurker". Let's stick together!! I am sorry to hear about what happened >to Kathy, and I am glad that everyone was so supportive of her here on the >list. > >Ok, I just wanted to vent that out. NO FLAMES, PLEASE!!! > >Let's keep our ideas flowing, not our negative thoughts and feelings. > >Take care, everyone. Come on! It's Friday!!!! :) > >Sue H. > > > From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Nov 8 18:55:10 1996 From: cheese@adstone.com Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 20:52:34 -0500 Subject: little disappointed To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com HI, I must say I feel a little disappointed in those of you who tried to build the Trash Can Trauma and decieded to not finish it. building it only half way? no lid? no arm? in a basket? with a lid that dont fit? I hope sence you have another whole year maybe you can finish it. maybe because it was posted to close to halloween and ther wasnt enough time to finish? I worked hard on this thing and tried to perfect it so it would be very scary , then decided to give it away for the list members to enjoy to find the T.C.T gets no credit! WHY? mine is perfect and there isnt anything I can do to make it more scary , I picked up more candy on the side walk then I gave away, I even found a little girls shoe. All I can say is A T.C.T. half built is half as scary. CARL CHETTA From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Nov 8 19:21:15 1996 Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 18:57:11 -0800 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Greg Hope Subject: Re: Contributors v. Lurkers Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com >Something about seeing "UNDERTAKING" and *EVERY MEMBER INCLUDED* in the same >sentence on this list gives me the creeps! Ha!!! I love it!! I guess I'm just getting tired. That one flew right over me and I was the one who typed it! Solution: less coffee, more sleep. Thanks Jeanni! Greg H (619)945-4424 F (619)726-2804 E ghope@mailhost.csusm.edu From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Nov 8 19:38:43 1996 Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 19:24:22 -0800 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Greg Hope Subject: Member map Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Well, I count 228 email addresses on the list, as of 7:00pm PST, Friday. I need some direction here. I'm considering sending a short email to each member asking for the following info: Real name/s of active member/s City and state/province of residence Specialties and/or areas of interest, e.g., handicrafts, animated props, decorated yards, creating haunted houses, costuming, focus on children, adult parties, attending public haunts and parties, etc. I won't go ahead with this without an OK from Denny, but I would also appreciate any comments/criticisms from everyone else. Thanks, Greg, the undertaker in Vista H (619)945-4424 F (619)726-2804 E ghope@mailhost.csusm.edu From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Nov 8 20:05:19 1996 Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 19:50:22 -0800 From: Greenrey To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Winchester House (was November through September?) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Rodney G Grantham wrote: > The Winchester House in California seems to have aspects of 'haunted > house' about. It is year-round, but I think particularly attractive at > halloween. > > It is real, however, having been built by the Winchester heiress in the > apparently mistaken belief that she would live as long as she kept > adding to it. > > I can't recall where in California it is. Been a while, but I found it > from some brochures when doing when of my random drive vacations > through California/Nevada. Rodney, I can't remember the precise location, but the Winchester House is within a couple of hours from the Bay Area, I seem to recall. The mansion has a number of hallways, stairways, doors, etc. that lead to nowhere, or dead ends, or loop back around to where they began. (I think there are even a few secret passages, though I'm not certain.) Seems the owner had believed she was personally haunted by a number of spectres, and believed that turning the house into a maze would confuse them enough to keep them away from her. Best Wishes, Aaron -- "Be ashamed to die until you have won some victory for mankind." --Horace Mann, 1859 The time is NOW! Do your part. greenrey@worldnet.att.net -or- awynnhi@kes.miracosta.cc.ca.us Visit Greenrey's Study at: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1982/ From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Nov 8 20:25:14 1996 Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1996 08:06:29 -0800 From: Mike Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: All Right Team!! Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Denny, You are to much!! As for Don leaving and trouble beginning...Do you think he saves all the bad mail until he leaves and then posts it as he is walking out the front door??? We should check on this.. Kathy the new kid on the crypt mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Nov 8 20:30:32 1996 Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 20:20:25 -0800 From: Bob Andrews To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Winchester House (was November through September?) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Greenrey wrote: > I can't remember the precise location, but the Winchester House > is within a couple of hours from the Bay Area, I seem to recall. It's in San Jose on Winchester Blvd. (what a coincidence) at 280. -- Bob Andrews bandrews@inreach.com http://www.anaserve.com/~BoBandrews From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Nov 8 20:31:55 1996 Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1996 08:13:04 -0800 From: Mike Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Puzzled Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Charmaine, Same here!! I have been posting but all I keep getting is messages back saying that they were not posted!! I am really confused. Who did we upset this time that mail is going crazy!!! Kathy the new kid on the crypt mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Nov 8 20:44:34 1996 Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 20:15:12 -0800 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Greg Hope Subject: server glitch Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Denny, I think we're having server indigestion. I've been getting bounce back messages indicating that my posts are being sent to the following address: daemon@MAIL.GLO.STATE.TX.US These same posts are making it to our list, so it seems as though our server is trying to post to another member or ??? Greg H (619)945-4424 F (619)726-2804 E ghope@mailhost.csusm.edu From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Nov 8 21:13:04 1996 Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 20:59:50 -0800 From: Bob Andrews To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Cemetery Gate Pictures Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Howdy, I put the pictures of my cemetery gate and fence on my web site. http://www.anaserve.com/~BoBandrews/fence.htm Please let me know what you think. -- Bob Andrews bandrews@inreach.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Nov 8 21:19:19 1996 From: qoe@sna.com Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 21:06:28 -0800 (PST) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: A workshop is needed :-) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 03:07 AM 11/7/96 -0800, you wrote: >Lynne and Other non techs, >I was caught trying to see how it worked. The guy at the >drugstore thought I was nuts!! We will all have to get together with >some motors and wire and see how many fuses we can blow out!!! >Kathy >the new kid on the crypt >mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com > A northern California get together was suggested. Maybe a Northern California workshop is needed. Just give us a list of what to bring (wire, fuses, vegetable tray) and the techies can show us techie wannabes how to put it together. __________________________ |\/\/\/\/\/| Lynne Miles \0 0 0 0 / qoe@sna.com |~~~~~~| Orangevale, CA From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Nov 8 21:41:12 1996 Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 21:22:50 -0800 From: Greenrey To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com ghope@coyote.csusm.edu wrote: > > who halloween-l ghope@csusm.edu *Snicker snicker* Well, me for one. LOL ;-D Greenrey -- "Be ashamed to die until you have won some victory for mankind." --Horace Mann, 1859 The time is NOW! Do your part. greenrey@worldnet.att.net -or- awynnhi@kes.miracosta.cc.ca.us Visit Greenrey's Study at: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1982/ From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Nov 8 21:46:40 1996 From: GFerris330@aol.com Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 00:31:33 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Niagara Falls Nightmare Trip Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hi, A few days ago I mentioned the possibility of a get-together to check out the Nightmares Fear Factory. If there are any members in the northeast or Canada who would be interested, please let me know. Please e-mail me directly, so we don't tie up the list. I will contact everyone who responds and we'll try to set a date. In addition, if anyone needs any travel information, I'll see if I can dig it up. Greg in Rochester, NY From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Nov 8 21:59:53 1996 Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1996 09:41:48 -0800 From: Mike Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: A workshop is needed :-) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Lynne, We are really going to try and build a group during the holidays and then meet after Jan 1st!! I will make sure to put you on the list of people interested!! When we all got together last time I actually understood some of the things...then again they had pictures for me to look at and they talked real slow!! We will learn! Kathy From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Nov 8 22:00:24 1996 Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1996 09:39:54 -0800 From: Mike Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Cemetery Gate Pictures Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Bob, I am not worthy to be on the same page with you....that stuff is great!! and I love the music to go with it!! Really fun. Now I want every detail on how to do that. Remember in untech terms for me the techno idiot!! Great photos everyone should check them out!!! Kathy the new kid on the crypt mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Nov 8 22:04:12 1996 Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 12:55:48 -0800 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Terry Hall Subject: need help signing off Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hi,all, Enjoyed reading all the post over the last 2 months, although I never contributed anything(don't have many creative ideas on Halloween, which is why I joined this group in the first place). Glad I did. Picked up quite a few good ones here. However, due to the increase in all my other e-mail, I'm afraid that I need to sign off this list until next year. Like an idiot, I didn't save the message telling me how to sign off this list. Will anyone out there help me out? Thanks in advance, and hope to catch you all next year. Terry \|/ /\-<<<<<<<<<<<<<< -------*--===<=<< <<<<<<<> /|\ << @ _/ <<<<< < \ / \ >>> ____ | | | <__________________((- \\\\ o_| / \ \\\\ \\\\\\\ | ._ \ \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ | / / / \\\\\\\ \\ .______/\/ / / / \\\ / _ .____/ _/ ________( /\ / / / ________/----------' \ / \_ / / \ \ \ \ \_ \ ( < \ \ Terry Hall > / \ \ \/ \\_ THETA XI / / > ) \_| -------- / / / / Gamma Alpha /_// /_// Shepherd College /_| /_| From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Nov 8 22:27:24 1996 Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 22:12:48 -0800 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Greg Hope Subject: Re: Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 09:22 PM 11/8/96 -0800, you wrote: >ghope@coyote.csusm.edu wrote: >> >> who halloween-l ghope@csusm.edu > >*Snicker snicker* > > Well, me for one. LOL > >;-D > >Greenrey Awright, I sent it to the list instead of the majordomo. I was bound to make my first mistake in life somtime before turning forty. Whadya expect - perfeckshun? Greg PS Where in town are you, anyway, Aaron? >"Be ashamed to die until you have won > some victory for mankind." > --Horace Mann, 1859 >The time is NOW! Do your part. >greenrey@worldnet.att.net -or- awynnhi@kes.miracosta.cc.ca.us >Visit Greenrey's Study at: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1982/ > H (619)945-4424 F (619)726-2804 E ghope@mailhost.csusm.edu From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Nov 8 22:30:57 1996 Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 01:07:47 -0500 From: Jack Bentley To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Cemetery Gate Pictures Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Bob Andrews wrote: > > Howdy, > I put the pictures of my cemetery gate and fence on my web site. > http://www.anaserve.com/~BoBandrews/fence.htm > Please let me know what you think. Fantastic! When are you making mine? : ) Jack B. -- MereImage, Inc. http://www.mereimage.com Providing Total Internet Solutions From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Nov 8 22:35:46 1996 From: Mark Heinze Subject: Re: Halloween Classics Disk To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 01:21:20 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Here is the info on the "Halloween" CD: "Classics from the Crypt" RCA Victor BMG Classics Series Producer: Steve Vining Playing Time: 72:23 1) BACH: Toccata & Fugue in D Minor, BMV 565 2) SAINT-SAENS: Danse macabre 3) GOUNOD: Funeral March of a Marionette 4) MUSSORGSKY: Night on Bald Mountain 5) BERLIOZ: Symphonie fantastique - March to the Scaffold 6) GRIEG: "Perr Gynt" Suite No. 1 - In the Hall of the Mountain King 7) LISZT: Mephisto Waltz 8) DUKAS: The Sorcerer's Apprentice 9) BERLIOZ: Symphonie fantastique - Dream of a Witches' Sabbath Notes from the insert: "Our modern fascination with horror and the supernatural is indeed unprecendented. Fright mavens are able to satisfy their appetite for fear in any number of ways - high-tech horror movies, the latest novel by Anne Rice or Stephen King, concerts of classical music by our finest orchestras and soloists... "The spine-chilling associations of Bach's majestic Toccata and Fugue in D Minor date back at least as far as early film versions of "Phantom of the Opera"; originally composed for the organ, it is equally well known as an orchestral work. Liszt scares up a devil with a dash of virtuosity in his "Mephisto Waltz" - indeed, it was rumored that the composer, a preeminent piano virtuoso, had obtained his dazzling talent from the devil himself! Grieg puts Ibsen's title character Peer Gynt in a veritable house of horrors "In the Hall of the Mountain King." Camille Saint-Saens's "Danse macabre" is both gay and doleful, a grand waltz for elegant ghosts. Charles Gounod's wry "Funeral March of a Marionette" has a jollity that belies the title; an entire generation of television fans associates this music with the rotund "Master of Suspense," Alfred Hitchcock. If you instantly identify Dukas's "The Sorcerer's Apprentice" or Mussorgsky's "Night on Bald Mountain" with Disney's "Fantasia", you are not alone. Dukas's tone poem describes a young magician not quite ready to fill his master's shoes...er, hat. Mussorgsky's work, originally intended for an opera, evolved into an orchestral showpiece depicting witches conjuring on a barren mountaintop. Berlioz concludes his "Symphonie fantastique" with a headlong plunge into a nightmarish world. The "March to the Scaffold" has the hero of the symphony present at a momentous execution...his own! The final movement finds our hero among the un-restful departed at the "Witches' Sabbath." Berlioz uses what were at the time unprecedented instrumental effects to build the Sabbath to a wild climax. Pleasant nightmares!" -Gene Gaudette It's got some great music on it. For the tape I made the following cuts (that I remember): Track 1 - cut at 3:23 Track 2 - all Track 3 - most, not sure of the cuts (Hitchcock fans will like this) Track 4 - cut at 7:55 Track 5 - cut this one Track 6 - all Track 7 - I think I used pieces of this, but mostly cut Track 8 - started at 1:48 and cut at 9:20 Track 9 - all I tried to eliminate quiet sections, but I wanted enough variety so I wouldn't go nuts listening to the same thing all night. This gave me a good variety. I also used the "Twilight Zone" from one of the Pops in Space CDs. I almost used parts of the "Batman" soundtrack, but I didn't know it very well and most of the music had the familiar theme in it. Very dark music but it didn't fit w/ my decorations. Let me know if ya'll need any more info! -mark Encore Computer Corporation 901 Kildaire Farm Rd. - Bldg. D Mark Heinze Cary, NC 27511 email: mheinze@encore.com Telephone: (919) 481-3730 From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Nov 8 23:07:35 1996 Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 22:52:27 -0800 From: Bob Andrews To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Cemetery Gate Pictures Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Jack Bentley wrote: > Fantastic! When are you making mine? : ) Uh... you can borrow mine, as long as I get it back next October! Sure beats ME storing it! ;-) -- Bob Andrews bandrews@inreach.com http://www.anaserve.com/~BoBandrews From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Nov 8 23:11:47 1996 From: DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 00:55:14 -0600 (CST) Subject: Is there a Techno-Elite? To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com After reading the recent posts responding to the 'techno-elite' thread, I thought I should take the time to write an open letter to the listmembers who might consider themselves a part of the 'non-technical' population. Although I am an audio engineer by profession, I do not have a degree in electronic, electrical, mechanical, or architectural, or aerospace engineering. (My degree, ironically, is in Religion.) What I have learned to do in the imagineering department has been garnered through observation and study, filtered through intuition, and motivated by strong fascination. I suspect that many of those who have gone through the trouble to join this list and read the increasingly massive number of posts share this same fascination. Those of you who are in sympathy with the preceding statement, please bear with me through the following remarks. I would argue that the primary reason for our technical population's presence on this list is the dissemination of information aimed at the improvement of the quality of the entertainment facilities (both private and professional) which support the holiday we hold dear. Judging by the letters I have received from listmembers, whenever they have asked for help from one of our 'techie-types', they received it in abundance. In an elitist society, this would never have occurred. I feel compelled to ask the question: Could it be that those who are put off by the 'techno-elite' might feel too intimidated to venture into a new area of challenge? In answer to this, I propose that the devices described and illustrated in the Halloween-l archives might be 'engineered' successfully by almost anyone who belongs to the list. Surely, mistakes will be made, but this is a part of learning. Based upon mail I have received from first-time imagineers who have successfully completed effects built from those same plans, it is clear that the challenge is not an overwhelming one. I can say with confidence that there is not one single attempted Flying Crank Ghost (of which I am aware) that hasn't flown successfully - and at least 4 of these were engineered by first-time 'techies'. Does this sound elitist to you? I will tell you, in no uncertain terms, that each and every technically experienced individual who posts regularly to this list is more than willing to help the enterprising beginner enter the Halloween imagineering community. It's not a situation in which you will be 'looked down upon' by a self-righteous potentate, but a workshop environment to which there is no tuition. Don't believe me? Reach out and try it! Halloween decorating is yet another hobby which can grow to any proportion to meet the needs of the hobbyist in question. No one should - and, I believe, no one does - look down upon anyone for decorating their haunts with store-bought decor. Listmembers should feel free to participate in the holiday to whatever degree they feel comfortable! Let your inspiration dictate the level of your involvement, whether it be a simple cutout in your window, or a completely haunt-converted dwelling. You are a part of the reason for the season, no matter what your contribution! I, as well as the great majority of the present listmembers, welcome you to our community. If any of us can be of service - whether for advice or ideas - feel free to contact that individual personally. No one here should be ashamed of their involvement in Halloween decorating, no matter what the degree! I cannot promise that I speak for all those who post regularly, but I suspect most would agree with what I have just said. -Doug Ferguson *********************************************************************** * Safety, Courtesy, Show and Efficiency: * Doug Ferguson * * The Keys To The Kingdom * dwfww@jazz.ucc.uno.edu * *********************************************************************** From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Nov 8 23:39:33 1996 Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 23:17:49 -0800 (PST) From: Dave Bell To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Winchester House (was November through September?) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com More precisely, it is in the HEART of the Bay Area, in San Jose. Directly off highway 280, at Winchester Boulevard. (Less than a mile west of the highway 880 intersection with 280) It's next to a set of Century theaters, a little bit hidden back behind a lot of trees and plantings... Dave > I can't remember the precise location, but the Winchester House > is within a couple of hours from the Bay Area, I seem to recall. From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Nov 8 23:45:45 1996 Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 23:25:57 -0800 (PST) From: Dave Bell To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Cemetery Gate Pictures Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Bob, that is absolutely incredible! I am truly impressed... The attention to detail obviously paid off for you! Dave > I put the pictures of my cemetery gate and fence on my web site. > http://www.anaserve.com/~BoBandrews/fence.htm > Please let me know what you think. From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 00:02:10 1996 Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 02:44:10 -0800 From: Aneurysm To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Member map Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Greg Hope wrote: > > Well, I count 228 email addresses on the list, as of 7:00pm PST, Friday. I > need some direction here. I'm considering sending a short email to each > member asking for the following info: > > Real name/s of active member/s > > City and state/province of residence > > Specialties and/or areas of interest, e.g., handicrafts, animated props, > decorated yards, creating haunted houses, costuming, focus on children, > adult parties, attending public haunts and parties, etc. > > I won't go ahead with this without an OK from Denny, but I would also > appreciate any comments/criticisms from everyone else. > > Thanks, > Greg, the undertaker in Vista > H (619)945-4424 > F (619)726-2804 > E ghope@mailhost.csusm.eduI think thats a great way of organizing it but you should keep exact addresses consealed except for when that person gives permission for there street address and tele # to be given.I trust everyone here but I am not going to win any popularity awards anytime soon on the net. I know some of my good buddies would love to know were i live. HAVE A NICE DAY AneUrYsm From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 00:04:03 1996 Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 02:48:35 -0800 From: Aneurysm To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: chat rooms Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Does anyone here go to any chat rooms from time to time?If they do can you tell me what room and what time and what time zone your in. I like posting but it would be fun to have a more interactive conversation once in a while. HAVE A NICE DAY!!!! ANEurysm From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 00:06:33 1996 Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 23:53:50 -0800 From: Bob Andrews To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Cemetery Gate Pictures Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Dave Bell wrote: > > Bob, that is absolutely incredible! I am truly impressed... > The attention to detail obviously paid off for you! > > Dave > Thank you. What's paying off is me getting all this attention now! This really makes the work worthwhile. I'm starting this weekend on the stuff I ran out time on. The hearse, the tombstones, the crypts...;-) -- Bob Andrews bandrews@inreach.com http://www.anaserve.com/~BoBandrews From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 00:09:51 1996 Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 02:54:03 -0800 From: Aneurysm To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Dust Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Nothing incredible just a simple sugestion.Does anyone ever need dust to add a scary touch onto there stuff?A good way to do this get your shop-vac or house-vac-a shop vac is way better though and take out the filter and shake it over what you want to cover and walaah real dust for a haunted house effect you even get that old musty smell as an added bonus of realism!! From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 00:29:28 1996 Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 03:10:37 -0800 From: Aneurysm To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: R.I.P.Contributors vs. Lurkers Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com okay now i dont want to offend anyone or sound to mushy either, but i think we should just drop this right now.This is all just a misunderstanding and no one ment to hurt anyones feelings. I think some ppl are just a tad to sensitive here.I think of this group as one big happy family(please dont laugh).I mean its not like its a sports or music group where everyone will argue on forever about who's the band or team. We all agree on one thing definently - we all love halloween whether your a poster, non poster, idea giver, idea stealer, lurker,contributor,Mechanical wizard,crafts person, or yard decorator we all have that common bound.Im on groups where its all out war its just one big flame ball with this group is different. Everyone has concern for everyone elses feelings. Ive only been on this group for a week but it is by far my favorite.Cant we all just get along.(extreme dramatics) sob sob cry cry oh god i love all you ppl. Everyone laugh now cause i wont be this mushy and gushy till another 19 years has past!! HAVE A NICE DAY!!!!! AnEuRySm ps I dont think everyone should get upset about flame mail.All threats are hollow and besides its fun to save them for a rainy day and give them a good healthy piece of your mind. From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 00:32:36 1996 Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 03:14:02 -0800 From: Aneurysm To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Pennsylvania Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Does anyone here live near PA? If you do tell me im desperate to find another halloween enthusiast near me to show props ands pictures with and all that other stuff. HAVE A NICE DAY !!!! AnEuRysM From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 01:12:52 1996 From: htraver@dreamsys.com Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 00:08:46 -0700 Subject: Re[2]: Contributors vs. lurkers To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Begin additional contribution: Basically, a small cute idea popped into my head while helping my best friend in some moving today. Finally saw the fantastic Flying Crank Ghost pix. (killer job, Doug). and no, this is not the moving the crank to the side. This is another idea. Yup, the crank is moved to the side. Then you take the trinagular frame up above, and mount it to a horizontal pivot and another crank and motor assembly. This will let the triangular frame turn from side to side, about 90 degrees. So basically, the new effect is whiolke you have the moving and raising and lowering FCG, he is also turning from side to side to face the audience! Double your motion fun! :) Harry [ Sent From: Dreamscape Systems - dreamsys.com ] [ Location: Van Nuys, CA - (818) 781-7529 ] From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 01:16:11 1996 From: htraver@dreamsys.com Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 00:12:48 -0700 Subject: Late Halloween update To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com (description by Mark about his house haunting and wondering why his blinking LEDs brun out...) Mark, do you have current limiting resistors in series with the LEDs? A 1K would work for 5 volts. Otherwise, the over-current will drastically shorten their life. Or use a larger resistor value.... Harry in a techie mood... [ Sent From: Dreamscape Systems - dreamsys.com ] [ Location: Van Nuys, CA - (818) 781-7529 ] From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 01:24:28 1996 From: htraver@dreamsys.com Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 00:20:50 -0700 Subject: Re: Nightmares-Fear Factory (long) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com (Jeannie shamed about my flak concerning never doing Knotts) I didn't mean to shame you, Jeanni. It's just....Knotts is always THE high point of Halloween for me, got about 15 good years worth of memories. If anyone on the list works for Knotts, I have only one question. My favorite prop was about 12 years ago was the haunted Hearse. It had a skeleton driver and two skeleton horses, all fully robotic. The first time I saw it was in one of the haunted houses, set at an angle from the wall. A truly stunning sight to see, coming round the corner, the wall is a star type set with twinkling lights, and there is this full sized flying HEARse, the old horse drawn type with both horses running and the driver cracking his whip! This effect simply blew my mind. The next year, the hearse was used again, but set on the ground. Less impact. After that, I never saw it again. If anyone knows the history of this wonderful prop and what happened to it, I would be most grateful. Harry is a reminescing mood... [ Sent From: Dreamscape Systems - dreamsys.com ] [ Location: Van Nuys, CA - (818) 781-7529 ] From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 01:37:37 1996 Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 04:22:27 -0800 From: Aneurysm To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Member map Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Aneurysm wrote: > > Greg Hope wrote: > > > > Well, I count 228 email addresses on the list, as of 7:00pm PST, Friday. I > > need some direction here. I'm considering sending a short email to each > > member asking for the following info: > > > > Real name/s of active member/s > > > > City and state/province of residence > > > > Specialties and/or areas of interest, e.g., handicrafts, animated props, > > decorated yards, creating haunted houses, costuming, focus on children, > > adult parties, attending public haunts and parties, etc. > > > > I won't go ahead with this without an OK from Denny, but I would also > > appreciate any comments/criticisms from everyone else. > > > > Thanks, > > Greg, the undertaker in Vista > > H (619)945-4424 > > F (619)726-2804 > > E ghope@mailhost.csusm.edu I think thats a great way of organizing it but you should keep exact addresses consealed except for when that person gives permission for there street address and tele # to be given.I trust everyone here but I am not going to win any popularity awards anytime soon on the net. I know some of my good buddies would love to know were i live. HAVE A NICE DAY AneUrYsm From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 01:37:55 1996 From: htraver@dreamsys.com Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 00:30:52 -0700 Subject: Re: Re[2]: Northern Californians? To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com (replying to Bill Rothe): close enough, let's all do Knotts next year! Harry [ Sent From: Dreamscape Systems - dreamsys.com ] [ Location: Van Nuys, CA - (818) 781-7529 ] From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 01:44:25 1996 From: htraver@dreamsys.com Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 00:40:54 -0700 Subject: Re: Bugs!!! To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Another fun bug idea comes to us from House of Terror 3 years ago. One room you walked over plexiglass cages of bugs and snakes. There was a cage above filled with roaches, but not many looked up. Basically, a 4 inch high type of enclosure with a strong cover. Saw Knotts do this trick a decade ago, but using mice instead.... Harry [ Sent From: Dreamscape Systems - dreamsys.com ] [ Location: Van Nuys, CA - (818) 781-7529 ] From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 05:08:26 1996 From: milwiron@btprod.com Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 06:49:39 -0600 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: server glitch Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 08:15 PM 11/8/96 -0800, you wrote: >Denny, I think we're having server indigestion. I've been getting bounce >back messages indicating that my posts are being sent to the following address: > > daemon@MAIL.GLO.STATE.TX.US > >These same posts are making it to our list, so it seems as though our server >is trying to post to another member or ??? > >Greg Hi Greg, I'm getting bunches of those back myself, this one has to wait for Don to reappear unless someone recognizes who is on that server. Denny From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 05:08:27 1996 From: milwiron@btprod.com Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 06:49:41 -0600 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: need help signing off Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 12:55 PM 11/9/96 -0800, you wrote: >Hi,all, > Enjoyed reading all the post over the last 2 months, although I >never contributed anything(don't have many creative ideas on Halloween, >which is why I joined this group in the first place). Glad I did. Picked up >quite a few good ones here. > However, due to the increase in all my other e-mail, Hi Terry, To unsubscribe- send an e-mail to , put nothing on the subject line and in the body put only- "unsubscribe halloween-L" followed by your e-mail address, minus the quotation marks. Hope to see you around again soon. Denny From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 05:13:14 1996 Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 08:05:51 -0800 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Moon Subject: Re: Cemetery Gate Pictures Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 08:59 PM 11/8/96 -0800, you wrote: >Howdy, > I put the pictures of my cemetery gate and fence on my web site. >http://www.anaserve.com/~BoBandrews/fence.htm >Please let me know what you think. >-- > >Bob Andrews >bandrews@inreach.com I'm inspired to make a fence of my own!! Looks great! 0=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-0 o Moon o | Fiberopt@pipeline.com | o -Happy Halloween- o | | o "From o to Witch in 2.1 Secconds" o | "Wicca, Its not a new wave of lawn junk" | 0=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-0 From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 05:15:25 1996 Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 08:02:27 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Linda Bills Subject: RE: Contributors vs. lurkers Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com > I feel like a lurker, mainly because I just don't have much to add to the discussions. Exactly how I feel too - when I feel I have something that may be of valve to others I always speak up, but other than that I just enjoy 'lurking' and listening. Another thing is I just haven't had the time to send a lot of messages - really hectic around here lately and when I do manage some spare moments to collect my mail I barely have time to read them let alone post messages. I didn't get near my computer yesterday and this morning I logged on and I had 203 messages waiting for me. ARGHHHH. That's just in one days time. :( No way I want to give up the list - when things slow down, I plan on building some of the projects that have been discussed for next year. I'm in my last semester for my Electronics degree so hopefully once I get going I'll even have something to contribute. I hope! > If these "lurkers" are like me, they may be a little self-conscious and simply prefer to remain anonymous. I feel like this most of the time - who wants to listen to me anyway????? Babbling........... Time to shut up for now - got those 200+ messages to scan through. Linda pyrfan@ismi.net From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 05:35:20 1996 Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 08:23:12 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Linda Bills Subject: Re: Contributors vs. lurkers Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com >I have to speak out here - one of my dearest friends left this list for >the above reason. the 'techies' persecuted her for not being on their >level >until she finally left. I've always thought the "techies" on the list were very helpful. Taking the time to explain details to us non-techie types is time consuming and they always respond whenever anyone asks them a question. They've even explained how to hook up LED's which is a very simple thing to a techie and they did it without making others feel like idiots. I've never felt they were looking down on others. I admire their knowledge and their patience - especially their patience! Linda pyrfan@ismi.net From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 06:04:29 1996 Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 08:53:42 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Linda Bills Subject: Re: Any SE Michiganians Interested In Creating a Haunted Something Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Yeah, I been wondering how many fellow Halloween addicts are around our area of Michigan. I've been lurking around not saying a lot because I've been sooooo busy. I would be interested in a haunted something (year around if possible, hehehe). >What with all the Northern Californian talk. I am putting out a call to >see if there are any SE Michiganians who might like to work on a Haunted >something for next October. I have "met" other Michiganians, Rob Freeman and >David Allan. Great guys! > I've talked to Rob Freeman, really a nice person - I wanted to hook up with him for a haunted something or other before Halloween but the time flew by on the wings of a demon and I never got back to him. RATS.... gotta email him.... Anyway I live in Byron.......do you know where that is? If you do I'll be surprised, if not I'll explain next time. :) >I just wondered if there are more of us 'ganders and if there is any >interest. Email me privately if you want to help cut down on >the bandwidth. Or publicly - we could try and give the North Californians >a run for their money! > Started to send this privately, but what the heck, youre right, lets use the bandwidth and let everyone know where not deadbeats in Michigan. :) >I am bound and determined to utilize all these great ideas in some >capacity. I would like to do it for some worthy organization. Let me know. > Sounds great. I'm studing electronics and would like to practise on some of these projects. Lets do it! >Yea Michigan! Uhhh, yea I guess so, I miss Wisconsin where I'm from orginally. GAD I love those Packers, but that's another list. Linda pyrfan@ismi.net From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 06:08:30 1996 Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 08:57:43 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Linda Bills Subject: Re: Bugs!!! Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Ohhh I love this idea!!! Gotta remember this one. >Jeanni, > YUCK!!! But it does give me a idea....a small opening where they can >see some big ugly bugs, but so dark they can see nothing else. And then >put ceral, the crunchy kind, on the floor...They walk, see bugs, and >hear a crunching sound!! What do you think!! Nice touch as they go into >the mummy's house!! >Kathy >the new kid on the crypt >mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com > From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 06:20:34 1996 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Dragon Breath From: mail2pj@juno.com (Phyllis J Persun) Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 09:06:45 EST Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hello, everyone. First of all, I'd like to thank you all for giving me such awesome ideas. My family has sort-of "gotten-out-of" the Halloween spirit in the past few years, and now, thanks to you people, my old plans and ideas are coming back to me. He he he ;) Now, here's my question : I would like to know if any of you have ever made a smoke-breathing dragon mask before, or have any ideas on how one could be made. It doesn't matter if the smoke is continuous (although I _would_ like to be able to see through it :), or controlled, I'll listen to ideas for either. I also think colored smoke would be cool. I don't have the actual mask or mask-frame, yet. I plan on making one myself, so I can work around whatever I decide to use for the smoke. I have come up with a few ideas, but either they: won't last long enough, have no way be controlled, or aren't portable. If anyone has comments or suggestions for the mask or costume itself, post or send them, too. (Perhaps it could breathe fire, too. Ah hah, just kidding Mr.Safety Inspector.) --------PJ mail2pj@juno.com-------- * I've been a kid all my life. * * It's what I'm GOOD at, * * and I don't intend to stop, * * just because I'm getting older! * From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 06:21:19 1996 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Pennsylvania From: mail2pj@juno.com (Phyllis J Persun) Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 09:06:45 EST Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com >Does anyone here live near PA? >AnEuRysM > I live in Pennsylvania, near Altoona. (Since you're from PA, I'm guessing that you may have actually heard of the town before:) --------PJ mail2pj@juno.com-------- * I've been a kid all my life. * * It's what I'm GOOD at, * * and I don't intend to stop, * * just because I'm getting older! * From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 06:25:26 1996 Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 09:03:57 -0500 From: Jack Bentley To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Cemetery Gate Pictures Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Bob Andrews wrote: > Uh... you can borrow mine, as long as I get it back next October! > Sure beats ME storing it! ;-) Yeah, sure, I'll have it back by October. Just remember, it's not my fault if I move and forget to send a forwarding address and forget where I got it from. I can be forgetful sometimes. ; > Jack B. -- MereImage, Inc. http://www.mereimage.com Providing Total Internet Solutions From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 06:29:40 1996 Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 09:18:56 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Linda Bills Subject: Re: Cemetery Gate Pictures Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com OOOHHhh what a first class job you did on that cemetery gate! Really enjoyed your web page - especially the music! :) >Howdy, > I put the pictures of my cemetery gate and fence on my web site. >http://www.anaserve.com/~BoBandrews/fence.htm >Please let me know what you think. >-- > >Bob Andrews >bandrews@inreach.com > From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 06:31:51 1996 Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 09:21:01 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Linda Bills Subject: Re: Niagara Falls Nightmare Trip Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Interested! I'm in Michigan, but thought it might make a nice trip. Is this the one in Niagra Falls? Linda pyrfan@ismi.net >Hi, > >A few days ago I mentioned the possibility of a get-together to check out the >Nightmares Fear Factory. If there are any members in the northeast or Canada >who would be interested, please let me know. > >Please e-mail me directly, so we don't tie up the list. > >I will contact everyone who responds and we'll try to set a date. In >addition, if anyone needs any travel information, I'll see if I can dig it >up. > >Greg in Rochester, NY > From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 06:39:48 1996 From: ALLAN DAVID Date: Sat, 9 Nov 96 08:50:03 -0500 Subject: RE: Contributors vs. lurkers To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com That reminds me: I think that sometimes stores that have these displays will give you the display when the promotion is over. Doesn't hurt to ask. (Referring to the drugstore display that untech Kathy was trying to reverse engineer :-) David dallan@dow.com - ---------- From: Dave Bell[SMTP:dbell@baygate.bayarea.net] Sent: Friday, November 08, 1996 10:37 AM To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Contributors vs. lurkers Ahah!! The first signs of a budding Engineering Mind! See, there IS hope! Dave > I was caught trying to see how it worked. The guy at the > drugstore thought I was nuts!! We will all have to get together with > some motors and wire and see how many fuses we can blow out!!! From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 06:39:49 1996 From: ALLAN DAVID Date: Sat, 9 Nov 96 09:01:21 -0500 Subject: RE: Cemetery Gate Pictures To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Man, this is beautiful work. Your pictures do a good job of conveying the overall effect, and I appreciated the step-by-step, as well. I'll probably never do anything this elaborate, but I enjoyed the privilege of seeing what you've done. Thanks. David dallan@dow.com - ---------- From: Bob Andrews[SMTP:bandrews@inreach.com] Sent: Friday, November 08, 1996 11:59 PM To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Cemetery Gate Pictures Howdy, I put the pictures of my cemetery gate and fence on my web site. http://www.anaserve.com/~BoBandrews/fence.htm Please let me know what you think. - -- Bob Andrews bandrews@inreach.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 06:39:55 1996 From: ALLAN DAVID Date: Sat, 9 Nov 96 09:21:30 -0500 Subject: RE: Bugs!!! To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com A thought just occurred to me: dancing, moving bugs could be simulated by scattering the plastic kind over one of those old vibrating electric football games. Surely some of those must remain in existence. (Perhaps something analogous could be built easily. Anyone know how?) I think this could be a good effect. Look through a small window into a dimly lit box where all you see are thousands of bugs crawling and jumping about. The box is constructed so it appears you are looking into the next room. Then, you pass through the door and CRUNCH, CRUNCH! Even better, mount in the ceiling a meat grinder with no blade or die, just the screw. Put a bunch of bugs into the hopper and turn the screw slowly, so bugs just drop down randomly on the unsuspecting guests. Man, I'm psyched! Are these great ideas, or what? Simple, cheap, effective (I hope). You've inspired me, I feel like I've made a contribution!! (Calm down.) Anyway, hope someone can use these ideas. David (excited to be inspired to some creative thoughts) dallan@dow.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 06:39:49 1996 From: ALLAN DAVID Date: Sat, 9 Nov 96 09:23:32 -0500 Subject: RE: Vampire Mirror Enhancement To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com You can probably do a lot of this with a scanner and computer. Most graphics programs allow you to reverse an object. David dallan@dow.com - ---------- From: Stuart McIntire[SMTP:stuart.mcintire@uage.com] Sent: Friday, November 08, 1996 5:19 PM To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Vampire Mirror Enhancement David, >So what's your enhancement idea? Anything similar? I'd love to hear >any (non-combustible) thoughts on the topic. Nothing similar...but it is combustible/flammable. ;) Have a poster, picture, or anything with a com- bination of text/graphics photographically re- versed at a printer's shop. This thought came up after a few people posted their suggestions (including pal Bill Lewis, among others). *That* would really throw people off! - Stu From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 06:58:29 1996 Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 09:40:13 From: JBKadel@gnn.com (Jim Kadel) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: So You Think U R Not Technical? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com So you think you're not a 'techie' Check out the following excerpts from a Wall Street Journal article. ========================================================= 1. Compaq is considering changing the command "Press Any Key" to "Press Return Key" because of the flood of calls asking where the "Any" key is. 2. AST technical support had a caller complaining that her mouse was hard to control with the dust cover on. The cover turned out to be the plastic bag the mouse was packaged in. 3. Another Compaq technician received a call from a man complaining that the system wouldn't read word processing files from his old diskettes. After trouble-shooting for magnets and heat failed to diagnose the problem, it was found that the customer labeled the diskettes then rolled them into the typewriter to type the labels. 4. Another AST customer was asked to send a copy of her defective diskettes. A few days later a letter arrived from the customer along with Xeroxed copies of the floppies. 5. A Dell technician advised his cutomer to put his troubled floppy back in the drive and close the door. The customer asked the tech to hold on, and was heard putting the phone down and getting up and crossing the room to close the door to his room. Jim Kadel (JBKadel@gnn.com) From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 07:30:47 1996 Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 10:21:03 From: JBKadel@gnn.com (Jim Kadel) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: A Good Source of Chemistry Info Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com In the rush to prepare my Halloween displays, I was forced to change from a desired "blood red" to a more easily obtained "green slime" fountain. The problem was that the fountain liquid had to glow under blacklite. So..now I introduced the problem of finding a non-toxic, liquid that would glow: blood red to the "Mad Scientist Program". Just Email your question to: madsci@medicine.wustl.edu The following is a sample of the kind of response I got from them when asking about blacklite glowing blood liquid: ------------------------ Example ------------------------------ >Unfortuantely many of the compounds that do exactly what >you need in solution are not likely to go over well with >your public if it gets on the skin or is inhaled as droplets. >Day-glo red paint for Halloween, works under black light: >Rosco Paint, (800) ROSCO LA >http://www.rosco.com/paint/fluoresc.html >Their stuff appears to be acrylic based, so if you >significantly dilute the paint in water it may provide a stable >enough solution to use [Comment: This idea was expressed on Halloween-L, using the water based paint brush cleaner as a solvent] >Fluorochromes such as Rhodamine, available from >Sigma Chemical (http://www.sigma.sial.com/sigma/sigma1b.htm) >(800-325-5052), glow red under green light. 'Rose Bengal' >fluoresces under UV and is 'safe' enough to put in foodstuffs >(according to the Merck Index). I don't know what color it >glows. >Some fluorochromes fluoresce at specific wavelengths, so >if ~260nm UV activates the compound, it may not work under a >'black light' which gives off higher wavelengths. Determine the >UV range of your bulb, then try contacting Rosco paints or >Sigma Chemical to see if anything they sell will do the job. >Sigma can provide information about the fluorochromes they >sell + the active ranges over the UV/visible spectrum and how >safe/toxic each compound is. > -L. Bry, MadSci Admin, --------------------------- Example --------------------------- Jim Kadel (JBKadel@gnn.com) From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 08:52:47 1996 Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 10:40:07 -0800 From: Dave Hediger To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Cemetery Gate Pictures Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Bob Andrews wrote: > > Howdy, > I put the pictures of my cemetery gate and fence on my web site. > http://www.anaserve.com/~BoBandrews/fence.htm > Please let me know what you think. > -- > > Bob Andrews > bandrews@inreach.comBob, I've been lurking around this list for quite a while because I never thought that I would have anything constructive to add. But after viewing your gate and fence, I could remain silent no longer! Outstanding!! I made my wife and kids (who are already tired of my Halloween antics) come in and check it out. You got an "Awesome" from everyone of them. I wish I had the time and patience to do something of that magnitude. Whenever I need some inspiration to get back to my Halloween mode, I'm going back to your site to light my fire. Again, great job!!! Dave From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 09:27:22 1996 Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 09:01:48 -0800 (PST) From: Dave Bell To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Dust Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Cute idea! I recall the Munsters "dusting" the living room, withe vacuum set in reverse... > Nothing incredible just a simple sugestion.Does anyone ever need dust to > add a scary touch onto there stuff?A good way to do this get your > shop-vac or house-vac-a shop vac is way better though and take out the > filter and shake it over what you want to cover and walaah real dust for > a haunted house effect you even get that old musty smell as an added > bonus of realism!! Dave From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 09:48:04 1996 Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 09:29:03 -0800 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Greg Hope Subject: Re: Member map Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com but you should keep exact >addresses consealed except for when that person gives permission for >there street address and tele # to be given.I trust everyone here but I >am not going to win any popularity awards anytime soon on the net. I know >some of my good buddies would love to know were i live. >HAVE A NICE DAY > AneUrYsm > Good point. Notice that I am only asking for city and state/province. Specifics, such as tel. no. and street address should only be exchanged via private emails. Greg H (619)945-4424 F (619)726-2804 E ghope@mailhost.csusm.edu From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 10:02:52 1996 Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 09:38:20 -0800 From: Bob Andrews To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Cemetery Gate Pictures Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Jack Bentley wrote: > > Bob Andrews wrote: > > > Uh... you can borrow mine, as long as I get it back next October! > > Sure beats ME storing it! ;-) > > Yeah, sure, I'll have it back by October. Just remember, it's not my > fault if I move and forget to send a forwarding address and forget where > I got it from. I can be forgetful sometimes. ; > > > Jack B. > -- > MereImage, Inc. > http://www.mereimage.com > Providing Total Internet Solutions Maybe I can use them as planters during the off time. -- Bob Andrews bandrews@inreach.com http://www.anaserve.com/~BoBandrews From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 10:03:46 1996 Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 09:42:24 -0800 From: Bob Andrews To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Cemetery Gate Pictures Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Linda Bills wrote: > > OOOHHhh what a first class job you did on that cemetery gate! Really > enjoyed your web page - especially the music! :) Thank you very much! I have time to make updates to my site now. -- Bob Andrews bandrews@inreach.com http://www.anaserve.com/~BoBandrews From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 10:17:43 1996 Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1996 21:59:05 -0800 From: Mike Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: need help signing off Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Terry, Sorry that you have to leave us! Your Unicorn is wonderful!! You are very creative,,,,sure you don't want to stick around?? Good luck and see you next Halloween! Kathy the new kid on the crypt mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 10:22:45 1996 Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1996 22:05:39 -0800 From: Mike Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Dust Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com I like the dust idea!! Makes for that musty dead smell!! How long should I save the dust for the proper look!! Kathy the new kid on the crypt mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 10:34:28 1996 Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1996 22:12:20 -0800 From: Mike Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Cemetery Gate Pictures Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Bob, You deserve the attention. That picture was the cause for a fight on if it was real or not in this house. So does that show you how real it looks. !!! I want every little detail. Maybe you should think of putting them in the book that I know someone on this list is thinking of making. I have never seen such detail, except in Hollywood!! Now I have to know...did you make the hearse???? You bought that right?? If not I will put my order in for one right now!! Kathy the new kid on the crypt mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 10:36:46 1996 Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1996 22:16:38 -0800 From: Mike Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: R.I.P.Contributors vs. Lurkers Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Out of the mouth of Babes, sort to speak!! And he is even to young to know what that phrase means!! Thanks!! Kathy mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 10:38:11 1996 Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1996 22:20:39 -0800 From: Mike Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Northern Californians? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Harry, Does Sonoma count as close enough!! We are only about 8 hours away,and hubby owes me a trip to Disneyland!!! Can we come please!! We will start saving now if you let us come and play!! Kathy the new kid on the crypt mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 10:49:05 1996 Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1996 22:28:52 -0800 From: Mike Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Contributors vs. lurkers Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com David, I never thought to ask for it!! Good idea, I think I will stop by today and ask for it!! I know the people that work in the photo dept. maybe they can grab it for me.......Yeah I had a tech idea...scary!! Kathy the new kid on the crypt mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 10:53:26 1996 Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1996 22:37:44 -0800 From: Mike Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: A Good Source of Chemistry Info Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Thanks Jim, Great lead for tech questions. My husband makes water pumps for a living and he is going to make a large fountain for next year and the idea of the blood glowing under black light is great!! I wonder how that stuff will go through the pump....OH HONEY!!! I have another great idea for you... Kathy the new kid on the crypt mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 10:59:56 1996 Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1996 22:47:00 -0800 From: Mike Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Cemetery Gate Pictures Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hey Bob, Since you started this with letting us see your pictures you are really going to be sorry!! I can see that it took a lot of time and work, and many different steps soooooo!! How about some detailed step by step directions, a little at a time so it does not drain you all at once. This is something I could do because I am good at building and painting, just not gears and motors and ratios. So if you would not mind... I would love to know how you did it step by step....I know it is asking a lot, but you posted the pictures!!! Again it is wonderful and I bow to your craftsmanship!!! Kathy the new kid on the crypt mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 11:02:51 1996 Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1996 22:52:42 -0800 From: Mike Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: videos and books Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hello fellow Ghouls, Here is my question for the week, haha!! I am looking for videos and books dealing with Latex masks and makeup. We are going to do a tribute to Horror Movie Classics next year and I want to start working on making latex arms and legs for the lab scenes. And work on the makeup end. That is something we are really lacking in our Haunt. Good makeup and Latex props are something we have never tried before because we did not know were to start. So anyone that knows of a good video or book that shows how to do Latex and Makeup from the very first steps please let me know!! Thanks, it is never to early to start building!!! Kathy the new kid on the crypt mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 11:06:19 1996 Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 14:04:12 -0800 From: "John P. Jeffries" To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Living Wall Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Ok, ok...Here is how it was done. A VERY complicated, in-depth, high-tech piece of equipment. :) :) :) :) The "living wall" is an errie effect that can be used not as a primary SCARE, but more of a "whoa...what the..." effect. This is how I set this one up... The hall is all painted black, and has an angled (30 degree or so) turn at the end. As the patron enters the hallway, all light is comming from a pinspot (red) pointing on the angled portion of the wall. (The part that is "alive".) SO, the patron enters the hall thinking "ok, this is where you go". As they start down the hall, a face, then a pair of hands begin pushing out from the wall then are suddenly gone. As the parton (curiosity killed the cat) begins feelling the walls, all are hard! The living wall "material" is availible from Denny. Ours was not purchased from him, but I feel most are similar for this effect. Anyway, the material is over a 1/2" plywood (4'x4') section, with a 2'x2' door. So, as you hear your patron say: "What the #^%@?!?!?!" You simply close the door. And presto! A hard wall. To add to the effect, you can cover the walls with black cloth. This will make the wall material blend in better to the touch. If the lighting is correct, the image pushing out will have more depth to it. We set up our "trapped in the wall" speaker system, but a gremlin got to it:( When it works, it sets them up for the wall very well and wherever there was a speaker, people felt the wall to see if it was hard or not. :) Our "face" was a THICK fiberglass cast. I found it most usefull! You can use the wigforms as well. Just dont use a "real" face unless it's far enough away from those curious Mike Tyson wanna-bees :) Hauntingly, John ***************************************** * Mr. Scary Productions * * E-mail mrscary@kiva.net * * Web http://www.kiva.net/~mrscary * * (812)-824-8935 * * FAX (812)-824-9960 * ***************************************** From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 11:25:29 1996 From: Will Mellick Subject: Re: Puzzled To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Sat, 9 Nov 96 11:18:41 PST Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hi Charmaine, I am seeing the same thing when I post. There seems to be one address that the post can't be delivered to. In my case that is: e-source@glo.state.tx.us. I was wondering the same thing, but I assumed that since I received my post, maybe others were also. Maybe Don can look into it when he gets back. Thanks Will in Spokane. > Could someone let me know if my last post about our haunted woods showed on > the list. It was in my mail but then I recieved a message saying it was > undeliverable. > Thanks, > Charmaine From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 11:26:58 1996 Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 11:24:18 -0800 From: Bob Andrews To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Vulture display Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com I had a cool idea for a display. How about having an animated vulture (or two, maybe) picking away at a writhing, downed trick-or-teater dummy. The dummy could be wearing a cheap halloween costume complete with spilled candy sack! -- Bob Andrews bandrews@inreach.com http://www.anaserve.com/~BoBandrews From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 11:48:18 1996 From: cloudy@wolfenet.com Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 11:42:58 -0800 (PST) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Member map Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com I'm all for it! Colleen and Jeff Schaller of Seattle, WA into animated props, yard decorating, anything weird and fun! Husband a "techie" me not--I just think of the stuff and he makes it! >Well, I count 228 email addresses on the list, as of 7:00pm PST, Friday. I >need some direction here. I'm considering sending a short email to each >member asking for the following info: > >Real name/s of active member/s > >City and state/province of residence > >Specialties and/or areas of interest, e.g., handicrafts, animated props, >decorated yards, creating haunted houses, costuming, focus on children, >adult parties, attending public haunts and parties, etc. > >I won't go ahead with this without an OK from Denny, but I would also >appreciate any comments/criticisms from everyone else. > >Thanks, >Greg, the undertaker in Vista >H (619)945-4424 >F (619)726-2804 >E ghope@mailhost.csusm.edu > From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 11:51:05 1996 From: cloudy@wolfenet.com Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 11:44:19 -0800 (PST) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: server glitch Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com We too are having this problem Colleen and Jeff >Denny, I think we're having server indigestion. I've been getting bounce >back messages indicating that my posts are being sent to the following address: > > daemon@MAIL.GLO.STATE.TX.US > >These same posts are making it to our list, so it seems as though our server >is trying to post to another member or ??? > >Greg >H (619)945-4424 >F (619)726-2804 >E ghope@mailhost.csusm.edu > From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 11:52:28 1996 From: R4M2J1@aol.com Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 14:43:27 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: little disappointed Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com In a message dated 96-11-08 21:37:28 EST, you write: << HI, I must say I feel a little disappointed in those of you who tried >it only half way? no lid? no arm? in a basket? with a lid that dont > fit? I hope sence you have another whole year maybe you can finish it. > maybe because it was posted to close to halloween and ther wasnt enough >time to finish? I worked hard on this thing and tried to perfect it so >it would be very scary , then decided to give it away for the list > members to enjoy to find the T.C.T gets no credit! WHY? mine is perfect > and there isnt anything I can do to make it more scary , I picked up > more candy on the side walk then I gave away, I even found a little > girls shoe. All I can say is A T.C.T. half built is half as scary. CARL CHETTA >> First of all I would like to apologize to Carl Chetta if my posting of "Trash Can Trauma turns to tombstone terror " offended him in any way. If it did I'm sorry. Second I have to say that I in no way intended to take credit away from TCT, however looking back I might have been negligent in giving credit where credit was due. I am new to the list and started working on TCT close to Halloween. I gave it my best shot but because the trashcan I bought was the wrong size I just could not get it to work correctly. Running out of time I gathered up some scrap wood and made the tombstone. I have never built anything pneumatic before, what am I talking about before I joined this list I didn't even know what a solenoid was. Thankfully people like Carl Chetta and Larry Lund are nice enough to share their knowledge. Once again I have to say if I offended anyone in any way I apologize. Dale r4m2j1@a0l.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 11:54:46 1996 Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 14:45:17 From: JBKadel@gnn.com (Jim Kadel) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Member Pics Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com I wouldn't add work to Greg Hope's "member map" project but personally I'd like to see a "head shot" photo (like in yearbooks) of the Halloween-L ghouls err...individuals. Now that's..really scary huh? I volunteer to construct such an album, that could be stored for downloading along with the archives. You'd have to take a photo (if you don't have one) and email or snail mail it to me. Remember, a head shot (all the better to see you with my dear) and not some photo where your head is 1/20 the area of the picture. If the album got too large, I'd split it into parts by last name letter: A-F etc. First, I'd like to know what you about the idea? Jim Kadel (JBKadel@gnn.com) From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 11:57:16 1996 From: Will Mellick Subject: Re: Re[2]: Contributors vs. lurkers To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Sat, 9 Nov 96 11:51:21 PST Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hi Harry, Just wanted to add something to your post. I built a Flying Crank Ghost for this past Halloween, (Thanks again Doug for your great design) and people were just in awe of it. I did something a little different from Doug's design, in that I had the head fixed at a given level (just hanging from a hook) and had just the arms moving. As the arms moved up and down the head of the ghost would pivot from side to side. This cause the ghost to turn from side to side to some degree, as it faced the audience. Even though this worked for me, I think your design would give the ghost even more mobility. Maybe you could elaborate on your design for us. Thanks for a great idea, and again thanks to Doug for a great FCG design and for help with my questions. Thanks Will in Spokane. mellick@spk.hp.com > > Begin additional contribution: > > Basically, a small cute idea popped into my head while helping my best > friend in some moving today. Finally saw the fantastic Flying Crank > Ghost pix. (killer job, Doug). and no, this is not the moving the crank > to the side. This is another idea. Yup, the crank is moved to the side. > Then you take the trinagular frame up above, and mount it to a > horizontal pivot and another crank and motor assembly. This will let the > triangular frame turn from side to side, about 90 degrees. So basically, > the new effect is whiolke you have the moving and raising and lowering > FCG, he is also turning from side to side to face the audience! Double > your motion fun! :) > > Harry > > [ Sent From: Dreamscape Systems - dreamsys.com ] > [ Location: Van Nuys, CA - (818) 781-7529 ] > From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 12:06:31 1996 Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 12:00:09 +0100 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: makeup@earthlink.net (Tad Peters) Subject: reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com > >>Hi Tad: >> >>I went to your web page - and surprise I had been there before. I still >>don't see the cape listed, I must to overlooking it. Is there a picture? >>What sizes? I'm a little on the short side (62.5") and don't want my nice >>cape dragging on the ground. :) Also I did see the Pirates shirt (didn't >>notice it the first time, I was looking for pictures), is white the only >>color? Sizes? What if I order it and hate it when it comes, is it >>returnable? It would help if I could "see" a pic of it. >> >>Thanks for directing back to your page - I'm glad you didn't tell me to >>learn to sew. LOL >> >>Linda >>pyrfan@ismi.net >>> >>>snip >>> > >Sorry, got caught up in the halloween thing. Our new doamin will be opening >to limited completeion on 11/11/96 for winter and spring. Ren Clothing is >a top priority. We have pre-made to size (s/m/l/x-lg/+) and custom made >costumes to your size. > >Look for us after the 11th at the url below. > >Tad Peters A. Harlequin Costume >makeup@earthlink.net 9589 Foothill Blvd > Rancho Cucamonga, CA 91730 >Coming Soon: www.costumemagic.com (909) 948-2950 Tad Peters A. Harlequin Costume makeup@earthlink.net 9589 Foothill Blvd Rancho Cucamonga, CA 91730 Coming Soon: www.costumemagic.com (909) 948-2950 From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 12:07:29 1996 Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 12:04:00 -0800 From: Bob Andrews To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: little disappointed Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com R4M2J1@aol.com wrote: > Once again I have to say if I offended anyone in any way I apologize. > > Dale r4m2j1@a0l.com > Dale, First of all that was one person's opinion, and second half of the fun is puting in your own personal touches to an idea. I'd like to try the Tombstone Terror next year. It sounded great! -- Bob Andrews bandrews@inreach.com http://www.anaserve.com/~BoBandrews From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 12:35:42 1996 Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 14:29:16 -0800 From: The Proctors To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: cemetary gate Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com > > karen p > > cproctor@flash.net > > > > (ps) Gotta talk to those Tracy people about sprucing up their cemetary. We can't all have fancy entries, but c'mon! > > Yeah, but there ARE some spooky looking tombstones. I'll include them > when I get my tombstone page going. > -- > > Bob Andrews > bandrews@inreach.com > http://www.anaserve.com/~BoBandrews I haven't started hanging out in cemetaries yet but that would give me something easy to do in the off-season! Tombstone research. I do know of a couple tombstones that were kind of in the right vein (no comment, please) & caught my eye as I was driving past. Maybe I need a closer look with my camera! I'll let y'all know if I find anything in that dept. karen p cproctor@flash.net From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 12:59:03 1996 Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 15:54:09 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Linda Bills Subject: Re: server glitch Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Same here - every message I sent to the list today has been "bounced back" saying blah, blah, same as everyone elses. Yet I see my posts on the lists and they seem okay. Strange.......... the other list I'm on isn't doing this...only the Halloween one. Hmmmmmmmm Linda >We too are having this problem >Colleen and Jeff > >>Denny, I think we're having server indigestion. I've been getting bounce >>back messages indicating that my posts are being sent to the following address: >> >> daemon@MAIL.GLO.STATE.TX.US >> >>These same posts are making it to our list, so it seems as though our server >>is trying to post to another member or ??? >> >>Greg >>H (619)945-4424 >>F (619)726-2804 >>E ghope@mailhost.csusm.edu >> > From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 13:10:26 1996 Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 15:03:16 -0800 From: The Proctors To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Bugs!!! Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com ALLAN DAVID wrote: > > A thought just occurred to me: dancing, moving bugs could be simulated by scattering the plastic kind over one of those old vibrating electric football games. > > I think this could be a good effect. Look through a small window into a dimly lit box where all you see are thousands of bugs crawling and jumping about. The > > Man, I'm psyched! Are these great ideas, or what? Simple, cheap, effective (I hope). You've inspired me, I feel like I've made a contribution!! (Calm down. > > David (excited to be inspired to some creative thoughts) > dallan@dow.com I guess its a good thing the electric football game never did make it into the garage sale pile! It just may come in handy next Halloween. I don't know about plastic bugs, since the big ol' 2-inch long things that hang out outside look just as nasty dead as they do alive & I bet they'd bounce pretty good on the electric football game!! Something to give the son & his friends to do on a rainy day, I guess. (Boys, can you try a little experiment for me, please?) Thanks for expanding on the bug idea. karen p cproctor@flash.net From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 13:19:17 1996 Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 15:10:56 -0800 From: The Proctors To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Member Pics Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Jim Kadel wrote: > > I wouldn't add work to Greg Hope's "member map" project but > personally I'd like to see a "head shot" photo (like in > yearbooks) of the Halloween-L ghouls err...individuals. Now > that's..really scary huh? > > I volunteer to construct such an album, that could be stored for > downloading along with the archives. You'd have to take a > photo (if you don't have one) and email or snail mail it to me. > Remember, a head shot (all the better to see you with my dear) > and not some photo where your head is 1/20 the area of the > picture. If the album got too large, I'd split it into parts > by last name letter: A-F etc. > > First, I'd like to know what you about the idea? > > Jim Kadel (JBKadel@gnn.com) Jim, I imagine several people sending you photos of themselves in their Wolfman or Bride of Frankenstein masks or full-ghoul face makeup! karen p cproctor@flash.net From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 14:01:57 1996 From: milwiron@btprod.com Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 15:43:54 -0600 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Member Pics Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 03:10 PM 11/9/96 -0800, you wrote: >Jim, I imagine several people sending you photos of themselves in their Wolfman or Bride >of Frankenstein masks or full-ghoul face makeup! > >karen p I was going to send in a picture of Mel Gibson. ;) Denny From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 14:13:09 1996 From: milwiron@btprod.com Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 15:42:04 -0600 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Living Wall Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 02:04 PM 11/9/96 -0800, John at Mr. Scary Productions wrote in part: >The living wall "material" is availible from Denny. Ours was not >purchased from him, but I feel most are similar for this effect. Anyway, >the material is over a 1/2" plywood (4'x4') section, with a 2'x2' door. >So, as you hear your patron say: "What the #^%@?!?!?!" You simply close >the door. And presto! A hard wall. To add to the effect, you can cover >the walls with black cloth. This will make the wall material blend in >better to the touch. If the lighting is correct, the image pushing out >will have more depth to it. Thanks for the plug John, it's very kind of you, also more than generous sharing your secrets with the group. The instructions I send along with the wall material tells how to do the "door" in the back which is hinged plywood as you mentioned. I also recommend that the "actors" use a prop such as a plastic skull with all the sharp edges carefully sanded off or their hands wearing cheap, thin cotton dress gloves to help protect the wall from damage due to sharp edges, fingernails and oils on the skin. The wall material should be kept as clean as possible for a long life. I also suggest that if the actor is using his real face, to make sure the wall is set back far enough to avoid getting punched by an overzealous customer. Denny From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 14:13:33 1996 From: milwiron@btprod.com Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 15:42:19 -0600 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: server glitch Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 03:54 PM 11/9/96 -0500, you wrote: >Same here - every message I sent to the list today has been "bounced back" >saying blah, blah, same as everyone elses. Yet I see my posts on the lists >and they seem okay. Strange.......... the other list I'm on isn't doing >this...only the Halloween one. Hmmmmmmmm >Linda >>We too are having this problem >>Colleen and Jeff >> >>>Denny, I think we're having server indigestion. I've been getting bounce >>>back messages indicating that my posts are being sent to the following >address: >>> Hey Gang, I suspect someone's mailbox is full and messages are bouncing back to the senders for some reason. My Majordomo program mailing list "powers" are very limited, I'd prefer not to unsubscribe someone unless absolutely necessary. Let's try to bear with it until Don gets back/reappears. If it gets too bad I can take them off the list temporarily. Denny From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 14:25:21 1996 Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 17:15:15 From: JBKadel@gnn.com (Jim Kadel) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Member Pics Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Today Karen Proctor wrote in response to the idea of a photo album of Halloween-L members ============================================================== >Jim, I imagine severalFrom owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 15:06:52 1996 Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 17:49:58 -0500 From: Jack Bentley To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Cemetery Gate Pictures Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Bob Andrews wrote: > > Maybe I can use them as planters during the off time. You could leave it up. You might recieve some nifty new, "real" props for next year. Jack B. -- MereImage, Inc. http://www.mereimage.com Providing Total Internet Solutions From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 15:18:10 1996 From: cheese@adstone.com Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 18:20:02 -0500 Subject: Re: little disappointed To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com >In a message dated 96-11-08 21:37:28 EST, you write: ><< HI, I must say I feel a little disappointed in those of you who triedHA> >it only half way? no lid? no arm? in a basket? with a lid that dontHA>> fit? I hope sence you have another whole year maybe you can finish it>> maybe because it was posted to close to halloween and ther wasnt enough > >time to finish? I worked hard on this thing and tried to perfect it so >it would be very scary , then decided to give it away for the list >> members to enjoy to find the T.C.T gets no credit! WHY? mine is perfect > and there isnt anything I can do to make it more scary , I picked up > more candy on the side walk then I gave away, I even found a little > girls shoe. All I can say is A T.C.T. half built is half as scary. > CARL CHETTA >> >First of all I would like to apologize to Carl Chetta if my posting of "Tras >Can Trauma turns to tombstone terror " offended him in any way. If it did >I'm sorry. Second I have to say that I in no way intended to take credit >away from TCT, however looking back I might have been negligent in giving credit where credit was due. > I am new to the list and started working on TCT close to Halloween. I >gave it my best shot but because the trashcan I bought was the wrong size I >just could not get it to work correctly. Running out of time I gathered up some scrap wood and made the tombstone. I have never built anything pneumatic before, what am I talking about >before I joined this list I didn't even know what a solenoid was. Thankfull people like Carl Chetta and Larry Lund are nice enough to share their >knowledge. Once again I have to say if I offended anyone in any way I apologize. >Dale r4m2j1@a0l.com Dale, No need to apologize, I am just a little disappointed that hardly anyone completed it all the way your idea will work well for many , I just wanted every one else to see the same results I did. Carl Chetta From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 15:25:05 1996 Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 18:24:03 -0500 (EST) To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: jdunfee@shadow.net (Joe Dunfee) Subject: Re: Dragon Breath Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com >Now, here's my question : I would like to know if any of you have ever >made a smoke-breathing dragon mask before, or have any ideas on how one >could be made. It doesn't matter if the smoke is continuous (although I >_would_ like to be able to see through it :), or controlled, I'll listen >to ideas for either. I also think colored smoke would be cool. I don't >have the actual mask or mask-frame, yet. >--------PJ mail2pj@juno.com-------- I think the easiest and safest way to do the breathing smoke effect is with talcum powder. I made one once using a pill bottle and a length of 3/8" dia tubing. One tube went from my mouth and into the bottle, and the other piece of tubing came out the bottle so that when I blowed, I stired up the powder and much of the powder went out the exhost tube. However this was designed for a one time effect - not ongoing like you probably want in your costume. Smoke Out_______ _________ <- ______ \ / ________ <-blow in here | | | | --| |--| |-- | | | | | | | | | | |......| |.| |powder| | | |..........| |__________| The only drawback I can think of is that if you use it indoors, the amount of powder spread about might be unacceptable with continued use. I used it for an explosion effect in a puppet show. With a hard blow, I could even make a mushroom cloud. To futher control the amount of talcum consumed, you might try having two tubes to blow on. One goes directly to the powder chamber, and the other joins with the smoke afterwards wiht a "Y" adapter. You might even put a valve of some sort on the tube to the powder chamber to control its flow. Joe Dunfee Miami, Florida USA From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 15:46:35 1996 From: allconen@btigate.com Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 18:59:06 -0800 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Contributors vs. lurkers Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Mike Marcrum wrote: > > Domina, > tell your friend to come back to the list. She can join me in the non > tech world. And if you want to post to me with untech thoughts feel > free. I can echo (hello, hello, hello) these sentiments exactly. I'm the Halloween fanatic of the family, and I love costuming, but when it comes to the cool effects created by masterminds (or is that "monsterminds") on this list, I have to have my hubby translate (very slowly). Definitely no techie here. Debbie From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 15:46:50 1996 From: allconen@btigate.com Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 16:41:40 -0800 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Puzzled Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Mike Marcrum wrote: > > Same here!! I have been posting but all I keep getting is messages > back saying that they were not posted!! I am really confused. Who did we > upset this time that mail is going crazy!!! Musta been the Great Pumpkin. I've got the same problem. Debbie allconen@btigate.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Nov 9 15:56:04 1996 From: cheese@adstone.com Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 18:52:46 -0500 Subject: Re: A Good Source of Chemistry Info To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com . My husband makes water pumps for a HA>living and he is going to make a large fountain for next year and the HA>idea of the blood glowing under black light is great!! I wonder how that HA>stuff will go through the pump....OH HONEY!!! I have another great idea HA>for you... HA>Kathy HA>the new kid on the crypt HA>mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com