From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 09:50:41 1996 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 12:39:42 -0800 From: Aneurysm To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Niagara Falls Nightmare Trip Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com GFerris330@aol.com wrote: > > Hi, > > A few days ago I mentioned the possibility of a get-together to check out the > Nightmares Fear Factory. If there are any members in the northeast or Canada > who would be interested, please let me know. > > Please e-mail me directly, so we don't tie up the list. > > I will contact everyone who responds and we'll try to set a date. In > addition, if anyone needs any travel information, I'll see if I can dig it > up. > > Greg in Rochester, NYDear Greg I would like to join in the trip,how ever i was wondering if you could plan the trip according to these special requests. 1--I have classes till the 18th Dec but then fall break is till jan 25-could you plan the trip between these dates? 2--It would be a 5 hour drive so do you think we could do something else like meet at your house and show pictures and ideas or something like that? Have a NICE DAY Aneurysm From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 09:59:37 1996 From: sao@mit.edu To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Very Important- Flame mail response -Reply Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 12:48:07 EST Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com pyrfan@ismi.net, Tue, 12 Nov 1996 11:45:47 -0500 >Good Grief, now I see why the people recieving these messages are so upset. >Whew........BTW, I'm conceling my Juno service since they seemed to not care >enough to help out on this stuff. Yeechhhh. Well....It's true that Juno bears some responsibility for providing free email service and not policing their subscribers, but it looks like they finally woke up (with Denny's prodding -- Thanks!) over the weekend and cancelled the guy. (Actually, cancelled his email account. Though I'm sure many of us would have liked to see HIM cancelled! :^) If you go ahead and cancel your Juno service, be sure to send them a note explaining why, so your protest will have an impact. :Andy Oakland sao@mit.edu From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 10:00:40 1996 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 09:21:26 -0700 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: X-Files Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Does anyone watch X-Files? If I hear one more person say SAM-HAYNE, I'm going to scream. From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 10:02:36 1996 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 09:34:33 -0700 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Spine-Chilling Ghost .WAV and Creepy Screen-savers Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com.-Reply Cool! I'll go there and get 'em! From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 10:04:16 1996 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 09:36:25 -0700 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Spine-Chilling Ghost .WAV and Creepy Screen-savers Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com.-Reply Where exactly is your Dungeon... From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 10:07:56 1996 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 12:48:42 -0800 From: Aneurysm To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Pennsylvania Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Bill Lewis wrote: > > At 03:14 AM 11/9/96 -0800, you wrote: > >Does anyone here live near PA? If you do tell me im desperate to find > >another halloween enthusiast near me to show props ands pictures with and > >all that other stuff. > >HAVE A NICE DAY !!!! > >AnEuRysM > > I'm about 30-45 minutes from the border in MD. My M-in-L lives near Hershey. > > Bill Lewis > NSWC Carderock Division > Code 6060 > (301) 227-2742 > lewisw@oasys.dt.navy.mil > lewisb@erols.comIm from the wilkes barre area- thats an hour from bloomsburg-and twenty minutes from scranton. If you want to get together or do something with a bunch of us email me and ill see what i can do -give me some ideas!! HAVE A NICE A DAY!!! Aneurysm From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 10:09:52 1996 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 09:55:51 -0800 (PST) From: Dave Bell To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Very Important- Flame mail response -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Roger, and group: Well, this is the first I've personally seen of this crap, and I agree that it should be stopped. OK: Denny has gotten the little punk shut down by Juno, at least temporarily. As you said, there is no problem for him to find another supplier and get back on. Has Denny tried to search him out to an address and/or phone number? I would REALLY like to see copies of this get to his parents! Dave On Tue, 12 Nov 1996, ROGER ALEXANDER wrote: > Here's another one! Didn't know who to send to until this. I can't believe he's allowed to do this! > > Received: (from csdenniston@juno.com) by x8.boston.juno.com (queuemail) > id CAA12993; Wed, 06 Nov 1996 02:16:55 EST > From: csdenniston@juno.com (craig s denniston) > From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 10:10:41 1996 From: CATHY.KELLER@48.ima.infomail.com (CATHY KELLER) Date: 12 Nov 96 02:58:04 -0600 Subject: Break down To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hello Kathy! MM> Cathy, MM> We built a whole covered structure for this years yard. MM> Hubby and friend built it with 2x4" ang plywood. He numbered MM> the pieces and drew a map of where the pieces all go. We are MM> going to take it down and put them up in the rafters of the MM> garage. Next year you take them down lay them by numbers and MM> you are all set. They used screws during the whole project MM> so they can just take the screws out. Kathy Ahhh.... okay!! That makes sense!!! --- Platinum Xpress/Wildcat! v1.2N -- |Fidonet: CATHY KELLER 1:382/48 |Internet: CATHY.KELLER@48.ima.infomail.com | |Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly their own. From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 10:28:14 1996 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 13:14:03 -0500 From: ROGER ALEXANDER To: bandrews@inreach.com, halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Nightmares-Fear Factory (long) -Reply -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Found Bob's pictures and they are nothing short of fantastic! Just goes to show what can happen if you've got the time and money! ;) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Roger Alexander Phone: 812-854-4748 Naval Surface Warfare Center Fax: 812-854-3508 Bldg 64 Code 111RA Crane, IN 47522 INTERNET: rda413@smtp.nwscc.sea06.navy.mil Supporting the Fleet through Supply! >>> Bob Andrews 11/12/96 12:30 pm >>> ROGER ALEXANDER wrote: > p.s. where is Bob's web site and these great photos everybody is talking about??? Roger, It's http://www.anaserve.com/~BoBandrews -- Bob Andrews bandrews@inreach.com http://www.anaserve.com/~BoBandrews From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 10:29:33 1996 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 13:18:18 -0500 From: Rob Freeman To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Contributors vs. lurkers (audience) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com I've been hanging back, 'lurking' in this thread, and decided that I wanted to say something about this topic. First of all, I think that it's most appropriate for 'lurkers' on this, the HALLOWEEN list. It makes me think about things that move in the shadows, ready to appear at any moment, adding to the mayhem that already exists. Secondly, I consider myself an exhibitionist. This is evidenced by the elaborate Halloween haunt that I build. I need an audience for this, otherwise there wouldn't be a reward in doing it. It's best when I hear the screams of my victims and they thank me profusely when they exit. But I know that the people that don't say anything appreciated it, too. And the same applies to this list. I get satisfaction from the non-techie sending a note of thanks for one of the few things I posted (so far), or the request to resend a post, or the reference by someone else to a post I made. I assume that there are many more that appreciate the posts on the list but do not respond regularly. You are still a part of the audience that I am depending on being there! Third, our audience (that's better than lurker, isn't it?) does contribute valuable information to the list. The ideas that I put into use this year typically did not come from the regular contributors. I just joined the list in September, so didn't have time to build some of the more elaborate effects. It was the small things that I took advantage of: the drink Nuclear Waste, the costume idea of the Unabomber, and the convulsing man. I don't recall who posted these, but here's a belated Thank You. Last, our audience makes few (but effective) posts. I didn't read my mail last week for two days because of a business trip and came back to find 200 posts in my in-box! If everyone on the list were even semi-active, I'd still be reading last week's mail today. So a big bow to the 'audience', with hopes for cheers (screams?) in the appropriate places. -- Happy Haunting Rob Freeman freemanr@oeonline.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 10:29:46 1996 From: JeanniSkip@aol.com Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 13:21:54 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Is there a Techno-Elite? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Doug wrote: << but how would you feel about seeing a series of short articles on a few of the basics in the fields of electrical wiring (as regards the special needs of SFX), soldering, hookup of pneumatic systems, etc.? >> Doug, That's an offer I can't refuse... I'm sort of like Kathy in that I can look at something I don't understand, and try to figure it out, or duplicate it..but my problem is TOTAL lack of knowledge of Technie Terminology (I'm also one of those few folks who actually read and follow the instructions). What hinders me in a lot of these projects (and their simplified instructions in the archives), is that I simply get lost in the basic language, not necessarily in the process. Or I can't visualize parts or components since I don't have a reference for knowing what it is, looks like, or how it works. When my husband and I went into the local electronics shop there was a simple LED kit for $1.25. I bought it and thought I'd be able to figure it out with a little help from him. But he's really a mechanical engineer type and not as comfortable with electronics..so your offer is particularly appealling to me! (Never did get the LED thing together--I got as far as putting all the pieces in the right place and ready for soldering--was going to attempt to solder it myself figuring if I ruined it, it was no big deal. But hubby started to do it for me, then decided he had the wrong size ? soldering tool or something - had difficulty anyhow and it just took a backseat to other more pressing projects. It's still here half done! (I wanted to insert it in the back of my witch/skeleton's skull and the eyes were farther apart than the positioning of the two LED lights, complicating it too much for me!) See how pathetic??? Anyway, would love to learn too. I told my husband I guessed I was going to have to enroll in a beginner electronics course this year....too many things I want to try and not enough knowledge! Please add me to the Techie WannaBees list! Jeanni From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 10:30:18 1996 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 10:21:56 -0800 From: bobpony@ix.netcom.com (Bob Poniatowski) Subject: Re: Northern Californians? To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Well, I'm new to the list...but I am in San Jose! Bob Pony You wrote: > >Yep - Campbell... > >Dave > >On Mon, 11 Nov 1996, David "HOMER" Simpson {or one of the Family} wrote: > >> Anybody near or in San Jose??? >> >> --Jason >> <> > From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 10:40:18 1996 From: Jacqui Young To: "halloween-l@netcom.com" , "'ROGER ALEXANDER'" Subject: RE: MAJOR APOLOGIES!!! Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 13:31:55 -0500 Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hey one idiot threatening to leave the list at a time is all we can take, AND IT'S MY TURN so knock it off. Seriously, everyone makes mistakes, no worries. Jacqui jacqui.young@cciw.ca Oh MY GOD!! I apologize greatly all list members!! *sigh* When I sent a copy of my E-mail from our problem member to Denny, I was certain and very careful to make sure it *DID NOT* go to the rest of the list due to it's content but my E-mail system must have put the list address back in the reply address. Imagine my horror when I saw it turn up on the list. It was not my intent or desire to send that disgusting message to everyone. I feel ashamed and embarrassed. My sincerest apologies for that getting out. Will retract from the list if that is the general concensus. Again my sincerest apologies. I will make sure it never happens again!! --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Roger Alexander Phone: 812-854-4748 Naval Surface Warfare Center Fax: 812-854-3508 Bldg 64 Code 111RA Crane, IN 47522 INTERNET: rda413@smtp.nwscc.sea06.navy.mil Supporting the Fleet through Supply! From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 11:08:02 1996 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 13:54:02 -0800 From: Aneurysm To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: MAJOR APOLOGIES!!! Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com ROGER ALEXANDER wrote: > > Oh MY GOD!! I apologize greatly all list members!! *sigh* When I sent a copy of my E-mail from > our problem member to Denny, I was certain and very careful to make sure it *DID NOT* go to the > rest of the list due to it's content but my E-mail system must have put the list address back in the > reply address. Imagine my horror when I saw it turn up on the list. > > It was not my intent or desire to send that disgusting message to everyone. I feel ashamed and > embarrassed. My sincerest apologies for that getting out. Will retract from the list if that is the > general concensus. > > Again my sincerest apologies. I will make sure it never happens again!! > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Roger Alexander Phone: 812-854-4748 > Naval Surface Warfare Center Fax: 812-854-3508 > Bldg 64 Code 111RA > Crane, IN 47522 > > INTERNET: rda413@smtp.nwscc.sea06.navy.mil > > Supporting the Fleet through Supply!Dear Roger You dont need to apoligize you Were trying to help and its pretty stupid if someone gets mad at you for that.As for the post i thought it was pretty funny-i can just imagine the little punk with nothing better to do behind his computer thinking how much trouble his little post is gonna cause and how sneaky he thinks he is till his parents find his post and read it by accident and whoops his little Hiney.I do think that that little wise ass should have his online access revoked.I dont think anyone should be scared or upset i mean whats a 14 yearold(if he is) who has no clue where you live or who you are gonna do?He doesnt even drive whats he gonna do come to our house on his skate board. Now if he wrote you a letter with your name address where you work when your kids get home from school etc. then its time to worry.Thats when you call the police and if all else fails dress up as a vampire and bring out mr .44 magnum-so at least he'll go out in halloween style -oh yeah bury his body half way in your front yard for a great living prop effect-heheheeheh HAVE A NICE DAY!!! AnEuRysM ps ilost his address can someone please give it to me so i can email our little buddy From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 11:15:23 1996 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 13:59:43 -0800 From: Aneurysm To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Very Important- Flame mail response -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Dave Bell wrote: > > Roger, and group: > > Well, this is the first I've personally seen of this crap, and > I agree that it should be stopped. OK: Denny has gotten the little > punk shut down by Juno, at least temporarily. As you said, there > is no problem for him to find another supplier and get back on. > Has Denny tried to search him out to an address and/or phone > number? I would REALLY like to see copies of this get to his > parents! > > Dave > > On Tue, 12 Nov 1996, ROGER ALEXANDER wrote: > > Here's another one! Didn't know who to send to until this. I can't believe he's allowed to do this! > > > > Received: (from csdenniston@juno.com) by x8.boston.juno.com (queuemail) > > id CAA12993; Wed, 06 Nov 1996 02:16:55 EST > > From: csdenniston@juno.com (craig s denniston) > >Dave I have 3 words that will get even with this little punk Electronic Mail Bomb From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 11:34:22 1996 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 11:26:22 -0800 From: Bob Andrews To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Very Important- Flame mail response -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Aneurysm wrote: Electronic Mail Bomb How about leaving well enough alone... -- Bob Andrews bandrews@inreach.com http://www.anaserve.com/~BoBandrews From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 11:46:22 1996 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 10:04:46 -0800 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Greg Hope Subject: Member List Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hi, folks. I've just recovered from some dialup difficulties. Yesterday (11/11) I sent out off-list requests for info to the following members: a.arce@ix.netcom.com a1995@correo.dis.ulpgc.es adharper@hamlet.uncg.edu adnan@qadnanj.khi.erum.com.pk adurham@mailer.acns.fsu.edu adurham@mailer.fsu.edu afn05400@afn.org allconen@btigate.com alt4@msg.ti.com anet@mail.top.net If you are in this list, please reply to let me know that those emails went out successfully. If you see that someone has already replied to this, don't bother to add your reply - if one made it, they all did. Thanks for your assistance and sorry for the tangle. Greg in Vista T (619) 945-4424 F (619) 726-2804 E ghope@mailhost.csusm.edu From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 11:46:26 1996 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 10:07:27 -0800 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Greg Hope Subject: Oops! Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Scratch that request for confirmation on my requests for the member list. I just got a response from someone. Thanks, Debbie and Neil! Greg T (619) 945-4424 F (619) 726-2804 E ghope@mailhost.csusm.edu From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 11:49:04 1996 From: milwiron@btprod.com Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 13:35:47 -0600 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Tesla Coil? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 02:47 AM 11/7/96 -0500, Joe wrote in part about plasma globes and Tesla coils: >Somewhere I heard a person comment that the Radio Shack displays do >not have a vacuum inside, but actually some pressure. (perhaps even normal >atmospheric pressure is acceptable. I had read or heard the same thing about the suspected gas pressure used by Radio Shack. Soooo.... Just out of curiosity (and not wanting to do any real work around here) I took one of Radio Shack's plasma globe power supplies and found that in my test rig I got identical ribbons of "lightning" at 26 inches of mercury using a mix of argon and neon gas. Not atmospheric but not much of a vacuum either. Less or more pressure varied the plasma ribbons dramatically. Also, the tubulation seal on Radio Shack's glass globe is the type only formed by an internal vacuum. Denny This is why women don't talk to me at cocktail parties isn't it. From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 11:49:22 1996 From: allconen@btigate.com Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 12:34:53 -0800 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: MAJOR APOLOGIES!!! Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com ROGER ALEXANDER wrote: >My sincerest apologies for that getting out. Will retract from the list if that is the general concensus. > Are you kidding??? You have my full sympathy and I'm sure the majority of the listmember's for putting up with that kind of *!@%^&. I'm just glad to see the immediate action taken regarding such trash. Helps to know what we're up against. No apology necessary. Debbie From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 12:02:23 1996 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: MAJOR APOLOGIES!!! From: rodney3@juno.com (Rodney G Grantham) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 14:50:17 EST Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com We all make mistakes. If 'retract from the list' means uns*bsc*be- please don't. I for one was somewhat happy to know what all the fuss was about! Definitely worth fussing about. A few **'s for editing might have been tasteful, but since you know what it means anyway.... Rodney rodney3@juno.com http://www.geocities.com/NapaValley/2049 >My sincerest apologies for that getting out. Will >retract from the list if that is the general concensus. From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 12:03:37 1996 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: X-Files. From: rodney3@juno.com (Rodney G Grantham) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 14:50:17 EST Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com I do, but if current season continues as it has that may become past tense. What is the correct pronunciation for us unenlightened folks? Not in my Am. Standard. Rodney rodney3@juno.com http://www.geocities.com/NapaValley/2049 On Tue, 12 Nov 1996 09:21:26 -0700 Lauren Jones writes: >Does anyone watch X-Files? If I hear one more >person say SAM-HAYNE, I'm going to scream. > From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 12:03:47 1996 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: JUNO's role From: rodney3@juno.com (Rodney G Grantham) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 14:50:17 EST Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com pyrfan@ismi.net, Tue, 12 Nov 1996 11:45:47 -0500 >Good Grief, now I see why the people recieving these messages are so upset. >Whew........BTW, I'm conceling my Juno service since they seemed to not care >enough to help out on this stuff. Yeechhhh. Providers are in an interesting bind. If they take responsibility for any content, they may be held liable for all content. Really tricky. I'm impressed they stepped up to the bar and did something about this guy. Rodney rodney3@juno.com http://www.geocities.com/NapaValley/2049 From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 12:04:35 1996 From: KBarn37781@aol.com Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 14:54:53 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: MAJOR APOLOGIES!!! Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com In a message dated 96-11-12 12:27:14 EST, you write: << It was not my intent or desire to send that disgusting message to everyone. I feel ashamed and embarrassed. My sincerest apologies for that getting out. Will retract from the list if that is the general concensus. Again my sincerest apologies. I will make sure it never happens again!! >> Don't apologize. These things happen. This is a very disturbing situation anyway and maybe this just gave everyone an idea of what type of nut case people are dealing with. This matter should be taken very seriously and are already a victim so don't be so hard on yourself. As far as leaving the list my vote is no. Karen From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 12:06:08 1996 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 96 14:55:16 EST To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Bill Lewis Subject: Re: X-Files Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 09:21 AM 11/12/96 -0700, you wrote: >Does anyone watch X-Files? If I hear one more >person say SAM-HAYNE, I'm going to scream. Don't you mean: "MULLL-DER" or "SCULL-LEE" I watch X-files, but what in sam hill is Sam-Hayne? Maybe I should read the credits? :> Bill Lewis NSWC Carderock Division Code 6060 (301) 227-2742 lewisw@oasys.dt.navy.mil lewisb@erols.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 12:12:15 1996 From: milwiron@btprod.com Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 13:54:21 -0600 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Very Important- Flame mail response -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hey All, A very upset and apologetic Roger called me after calling out to Don's house to explain he had sent a post to the list by accident. Oops, oh well, it shows all of us exactly what some minds are capable of when it comes to hate mail. If people receive posts like the one Roger did they should never add fuel to the fire by responding, report it to the list owner, hunt down the server, and get copies of the letter to them along with all the headers ASAP. Denny From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 12:13:06 1996 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 09:58:16 -0700 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Site Visit Report -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Finally catching up on email (kinda...I'm up to October 30)... You don't need a lot in your yard to have a great haunt. Sometimes the wind gently blowing the Grim Reaper's robe is enough. The little things... From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 12:16:41 1996 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 10:40:06 -0700 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Tis Almost Time.....for Religion? -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Yeah...I wonder what some of those Bible thumpers are doin' to the little kids in their house. Sheesh! Like goodness has a pedigree... From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 12:22:44 1996 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 10:55:20 -0700 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com, lewisw@oasys.dt.navy.mil Subject: Re: Haunted Yard Review -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com I left town Halloween night (actually, was too tired, came back, slept, left at 5:30 a.m. on November 1) or I would have dragged Karen and Jenny up there! I had intended to get to Laurel Hill Cemetery in Philadelphia on Nov. 3, but we didn't find out until we got there that they're not open on Sundays or holidays or after 1:30 p.m. Bummer. Will try again soon. Did take a lot of shots at West Laurel Hill (nearby and newer). For a more local treat, you should really try Rock Creek Cemetery in DC--famous statues there, including Laurel Adam's Memorial (mistakenly referred to as "Grief".) It actually has a very long name... From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 12:25:07 1996 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 96 15:15:32 EST To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Bill Lewis Subject: Re: Contributors vs. lurkers (audience) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 01:18 PM 11/12/96 -0500, you wrote: >Secondly, I consider myself an exhibitionist. | guess this make ms one too... >Third, our audience (that's better than lurker, isn't it?) Agreed! >Unabomber, and the convulsing man. I don't recall who posted these, but >here's a belated Thank You. Well I posted a thing on the Convulsing hanging man, Did you build it? If so I'd like to hear some detail, since I only posted a basic abstract idea, not really a "how to". BTW I salvaged a battery operated vibrating unit from an old back pillow. Built in battery holder motor with eccentric weight, and a pushbutton on/off switch. I was going to see if I could stuff it into the big rubber spider, but never got "a round tuit" (someone gave me one once but I lost it). >find 200 posts in my in-box! 348 this morning, after a 4 day weekend (Vet day, and every other Friday off). I basically agree. If everyone contributed, all of the time, the list would go to hell in a handbasket real quick. And, as cool as that may seem to make a new special effect, This would ultimately suffer, and we'd be back to where we were a couple of years ago, when there was miniscule activity during the "off" season. This isn't to suggest that one shouldn't contribute when they have something to offer. On the contrary, I've seen many times when a reletively unknown audience member speaks up and makes a tremendous suggestion. Often invoking the "Gee, that's so simple why didn't I think of that" syndrome. Bill Lewis NSWC Carderock Division Code 6060 (301) 227-2742 lewisw@oasys.dt.navy.mil lewisb@erols.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 12:35:32 1996 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 15:27:43 -0400 From: Jason R To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: PROMO SIGNS Was Contributors vs. lurkers, Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Michael Marcrum wrote: > > Hey Ghouls, > Here is another idea that I just heard about! My hubby wants to do Well lets see. MWK Industerys, {They advertise in Populer Scince, has these scanners, and other Laser parts. CHEEP!. Plus they have been in busniess for at least 6 years now. I have bought from them and know them and well there nice guys!. Plus it is spelled LASER, as in Light Amplfiaction, by Stimulated Emmision of Radiation. I spell my Screen name TheLazer, because when I first got onto the net, by way of AOL. That was the only name I could get with the word Laser in it. Jay -- Jason R Member FDC {Beach Club lighting tech} VRC Homepage, Use it to find out ALL your Disney info needs. --Http://www.vivanet.com/~thelazer -- "I told'em the truth, and they fell for it"-Harry Anderson. From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 12:36:20 1996 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 15:29:57 -0400 From: Jason R To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Nightmares-Fear Factory (long) -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com ROGER ALEXANDER wrote: > > *sigh* I too have been the subject of his "opinion email". I have kept it for any possible future > repercussions and evidence. It was quite disturbing to say the least. A good place to start is calling your local Police company. Jay -- Jason R Member FDC {Beach Club lighting tech} VRC Homepage, Use it to find out ALL your Disney info needs. --Http://www.vivanet.com/~thelazer -- "I told'em the truth, and they fell for it"-Harry Anderson. From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 12:45:19 1996 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 15:37:55 -0400 From: Jason R To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Niagara Falls Nightmare Trip Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Aneurysm wrote: > > GFerris330@aol.com wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > A few days ago I mentioned the possibility of a get-together to check out the > > Nightmares Fear Factory. If there are any members in the northeast or Canada > > who would be interested, please let me know. > > > > Please e-mail me directly, so we don't tie up the list. > > > > I will contact everyone who responds and we'll try to set a date. In > > addition, if anyone needs any travel information, I'll see if I can dig it > > up. > > > > Greg in Rochester, NYDear Greg > I would like to join in the trip,how ever i was wondering if you could > plan the trip according to these special requests. > 1--I have classes till the 18th Dec but then fall break is till jan > 25-could you plan the trip between these dates? > 2--It would be a 5 hour drive so do you think we could do something else > like meet at your house and show pictures and ideas or something like > that? > Have a NICE DAY > Aneurysm HEY. I Live in Buffalo, {Orchard Park, duing the weekend, during the week it is at College in Bataiva!} Let me know on some dates and I will see if I cant hop on over there!. Jay -- Jason R Member FDC {Beach Club lighting tech} VRC Homepage, Use it to find out ALL your Disney info needs. --Http://www.vivanet.com/~thelazer -- "I told'em the truth, and they fell for it"-Harry Anderson. From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 12:48:56 1996 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 15:33:39 -0400 From: Jason R To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Very Important- Flame mail response PLEASE READ ALL Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com ROGER ALEXANDER wrote: id CAA12993; Wed, 06 Nov 1996 02:16:55 EST > To: RDA413@smtp.nwscc.sea06.navy.mil > Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 07:52:37 cst > Subject: Re: Too old to trick or treat? -Reply > Message-ID: <19961106.075831.10758.1.csdenniston@juno.com> > References: > X-Mailer: Juno 1.14 > X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 6-13,15-17,19 > From: csdenniston@juno.com (craig s denniston) > > roger, personaly, i think that you can go i am 14 > now, and i went t.o.t. last year. i dressed up as the reaper this year > and scared kids . and when i find where you live, > i'm going t. HA, HA, HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and > there's nothing you can do to stop me because you don't know what the PLEASE DO NOT SEND THIS TO THE LIST. ADDRESS IT TO THAT PERSON YOU WANT IT TO GO TO> HATE MAIL IS VERY ANNYOING. BUT< BY POSTING IT YOU HAVE LET IT BE SEEN BY ANYONE ON THIS LIST> INCLUDING KIDS! jay -- Jason R Member FDC {Beach Club lighting tech} VRC Homepage, Use it to find out ALL your Disney info needs. --Http://www.vivanet.com/~thelazer -- "I told'em the truth, and they fell for it"-Harry Anderson. From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 12:51:04 1996 From: ALLAN DAVID Date: Tue, 12 Nov 96 15:39:12 -0500 Subject: Supermarket lasers was RE: PROMO SIGNS Was Contributors vs. lurkers, To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Jason, Would you please post MWK Industries' phone number? Thanks. - ---------- [stuff deleted] Well lets see. MWK Industerys, {They advertise in Populer Scince, has these scanners, and other Laser parts. CHEEP!. Plus they have been in busniess for at least 6 years now. I have bought from them and know them and well there nice guys!. [more deleted] Jay [the rest deleted] From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 12:54:49 1996 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 14:44:10 -0800 From: The Proctors To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Very Important- Flame mail response -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com We have a 13-yr. old boy. Believe me, we would *really* want to know if our kid was doing this stuff! On the other hand, I know some parents who could care less. I do tell parents whom I know about things (oh, c'mon, not the little piddly stuff) & my friends know that I want them to tattle to me about mine. The kids have to know that they're accountable even if their parents didn't actually see them do it. (which is very often at this age because they are starting to be allowed more freedom) My kid knows people will tell me. It drives him nuts but occasionally makes him stop & think! I've got a friend going to court this afternoon (I wasn't involved!!) because their kid, 14 at the time, got caught by police lighting firecrackers in a city park in September. (you can't even light 'em in this town in July or New Yrs!) Mom's pres. of the PTA & dad's the Scoutmaster. On the one hand, they're very nervous about it all & on the other, they want their kid to get punished for his actions & hope he gets community service. How many parents these days would even agree with the judge who gives the kid comm. svc. time? Oh well, back to Halloween... karen p cproctor@flash.net Dave Bell wrote: > > Roger, and group: > > Well, this is the first I've personally seen of this crap, and > I agree that it should be stopped. OK: Denny has gotten the little > punk shut down by Juno, at least temporarily. As you said, there > is no problem for him to find another supplier and get back on. > Has Denny tried to search him out to an address and/or phone > number? I would REALLY like to see copies of this get to his > parents! > > Dave > > On Tue, 12 Nov 1996, ROGER ALEXANDER wrote: > > Here's another one! Didn't know who to send to until this. I can't believe he's allowed to do this! > > > > Received: (from csdenniston@juno.com) by x8.boston.juno.com (queuemail) > > id CAA12993; Wed, 06 Nov 1996 02:16:55 EST > > From: csdenniston@juno.com (craig s denniston) > > From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 13:03:34 1996 From: sao@mit.edu To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Very Important- Flame mail response -Reply Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 15:53:10 EST Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Aneurysm , Tue, 12 Nov 1996 13:59:43 -0800: >Dave I have 3 words that will get even with this little punk > Electronic Mail Bomb Please don't mailbomb in retaliation. I understand the temptation to do something in response, but sending out hundreds of email flames just lowers you to the jerk's level. (As well as creating a support nightmare for the poor souls who are trying to administer the system he's working from, as your email clogs their servers and blocks innocent users from getting THEIR mail.) The most effective response to harrassing email is to forward a single copy of the offensive message to "postmaster" at the user's site, including all the headers, and an explanation of why you considered the email offensive. This is likely to result in the jerk's account being revoked. Mailbombing him will just escalate and prolong the conflict. (Apologies if this sounds like another pompous lesson in email procedures from a self-appointed "Netiquette Cop"...it's just the way I write.) :Andy Oakland sao@mit.edu From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 13:08:06 1996 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 96 12:49:44 PST From: "Sparks, Doug" To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re[2]: Very Important- Flame mail response -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Well if you use Peoplefinder, there are quite a few Dennistons, but only 12 listings in the Boston area. (which is useless if juno's email for the east coast goes through a single server location.) You could just then try calling the given phone numbers to ask for Craig. (evil grin) I am sure you could take it from there. :) Doug Sparks dsparks@ligand.com ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Very Important- Flame mail response -Reply Author: halloween-l@netcom.com at gateway Date: 11/12/96 10:11 AM Has Denny tried to search him out to an address and/or phone number? I would REALLY like to see copies of this get to his parents! From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 13:20:29 1996 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 16:15:14 -0400 From: Jason R To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Supermarket lasers was RE: PROMO SIGNS Was Contributors vs. lurkers, Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com ALLAN DAVID wrote: > > Jason, > Would you please post MWK Industries' phone number? Thanks. > Sure.I have to go home and get out a Populer Scince mag. I belive there on the web too, but I am not sure of the URL. Let me check and I will post to the list in a few days. Jay -- Jason R Member FDC {Beach Club lighting tech} VRC Homepage, Use it to find out ALL your Disney info needs. --Http://www.vivanet.com/~thelazer -- "I told'em the truth, and they fell for it"-Harry Anderson. From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 13:49:16 1996 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 15:29:31 -0600 From: David Kiihne To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Supermarket lasers -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Found 'em! (Ain't search engines grand? :) http://www.pweb.com/mwk/main.htm MWK Industries 1269 W. Pomona Corona, California 91720 Toll-Free USA Order Number 1-(800) 356-7714 email: mkenny1989@aol.com Dave - daveki@nebfef.com >>> Jason R 11/12/96 02:15pm >>> ALLAN DAVID wrote: > > Jason, > Would you please post MWK Industries' phone number? Thanks. > Sure.I have to go home and get out a Populer Scince mag. I belive there on the web too, but I am not sure of the URL. Let me check and I will post to the list in a few days. Jay -- Jason R Member FDC {Beach Club lighting tech} VRC Homepage, Use it to find out ALL your Disney info needs. --Http://www.vivanet.com/~thelazer -- "I told'em the truth, and they fell for it"-Harry Anderson. From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 14:00:32 1996 From: DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 15:36:26 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Cemetary gate To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com >I also understand it's pretty dangerous, thugs love to roll tourists in >there. I'm sure Doug know's alot more about them, (the cemetery, not the >thugs... :) Heh... Well, the best way to see the New Orleans Cemeteries is by tour, and definitely in a group. Even though it would seem more, er, romantic to view them by moonlight, they are generally closed after dark, although I have heard of many people sneaking in after dark for various reasons. What Don said about the re-use aspect I believe applies more to the 'apartment mortuaries' with rows and colums of stacked crypts. There was a TV story a year or so back talking to one 'crypt keeper' who explained this recycling process. The large _private_ crypts with family names permanently engraved on them are another matter. These are the ones most people think of when they speak of New Orleans cemeteries, and the ones that most remind me of the Haunted Mansion. -=- On another topic, the IAAPA amusement park provider convention meets here at the Earnest Morial Convention Center (the big complex left where the 1984 World's Fair was held, next to the Mississippi River) on the 22nd and 23rd of this month. I have been told that if you are a member of the American Coaster Enthusiasts (ACE), you will be allowed in for FREE. Normally, admission is about $35.00. This will include active rides, simulators, and beaucoups exhibits and take-home freebies. Doubtless there will be a few walkthrough and dark ride manufacturers/ design firms represented. I will be there, and will provide a report, if all goes well. -Doug *********************************************************************** * Safety, Courtesy, Show and Efficiency: * Doug Ferguson * * The Keys To The Kingdom * dwfww@jazz.ucc.uno.edu * *********************************************************************** From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 14:15:24 1996 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 14:00:30 -0800 (PST) To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Tracy Miller Subject: Re: Nightmare Before Christmas > ? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 10:55 PM 10/5/96 -0700, you wrote: >Lucien Desar scribbled in blood: > >"...any other weirdos like me that look like they walked out of the >Adams Family 365 days a year..." > >If you mean your basic goth-type: listening to a little too much >Christian Death, think that Marilyn Manson is performing a public >service, and that there is nothing like a pair of 10-eye doc's, then yes >there is... > Make that three of us! Personally, I don't see any reason why anyone should ever remove their haloween decorations! I just put little santa hats on the gargoyles. It's not "seasonal decorating" it's "interior decorating". Tracy (Cairo on alt.gothic.fashion) From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 14:21:00 1996 From: allconen@btigate.com Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 14:59:45 -0800 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Member List Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Greg Hope wrote: > If you are in this list, please reply to let me know that those emails went > out successfully. Got it--you should have my reply. Debbie allconen@btigate.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 14:21:23 1996 From: allconen@btigate.com Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 15:04:43 -0800 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Tesla Coil? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com milwiron@btprod.com wrote: > > > This is why women don't talk to me at cocktail parties isn't it. Any man who can make sparks fly from something they picked up at Radio Shack shouldn't have a problem getting a date :) Debbie allconen@btigate.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 15:25:40 1996 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 18:09:39 -0500 From: Rob Freeman To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Tesla Coil? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Denny said: > This is why women don't talk to me at cocktail parties isn't it. It's probably because you're too busy tearing apart the hostess' appliances! :) -- Happy Haunting Rob Freeman freemanr@oeonline.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 15:26:24 1996 From: DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 16:07:46 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Tesla Coil? To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Denny, Saw your post on the gas-content of the Radio Shack plasmaspheres. I therefore thought you might have stumbled across another type of streamer in your experiemnts. I have a produce that Radio Shack briefly sold under the name of 'Lightning Fury', and it's one of my favorite TeslaToys. It produces white streamers, and as these 'lightning' filaments near the ground plane (depending on the setting of the controls) they go green in color, or have green surrounds. The device has two controls, one of which varies the voltage output, and the other adjusts the frequency of the system. You can tune the show to suit your tastes, from a shower of forked streamers to a long, single streamer. You can really hear the electrons hammering the glass, and at some settings, the scream of the HF oscillations is almost annoying - but it's a lot of fun to tweak. Anyhow, any clue what gas/pressure this might be using? It's a lot more interesting (from a halloween point-of-view) than the more 'laid back' plasmasphere. Incidentally, the manual that came with this neat-o toy credited the designer: Larry Albright. It says that he did work on Close Encounters, Star Wars, Blade Runner, and from what I can tell, he is probably the person responsible for the huge plasma-tubes in Journey Through Imagination at EPCOT. Know anything else about this person? -Doug *********************************************************************** * Safety, Courtesy, Show and Efficiency: * Doug Ferguson * * The Keys To The Kingdom * dwfww@jazz.ucc.uno.edu * *********************************************************************** From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 15:49:24 1996 From: JeanniSkip@aol.com Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 18:37:50 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Contributors vs. lurkers Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Kathy said: << We have a telephone pole right outside our house and we were thinking of maybe putting a certain red suited man and his sleigh in the same position!! I know it is not Halloween but it is evil!! Kathy >> Hi Kathy-- Something wicked about these listmembers.... I am *thinking* about my holiday setup and may be doing a *Polar Express* theme (my son's a railroad freak) - so will have several elves in our Shipping Dept. (of Santa's Workshop) - with crates filled with toys etc. needing to be shipped to the proper division (this is the RR division) - i.e. Ship to: Dolls, Ship to: Cars & Trucks, etc. - but Definitely want to include a crate in amongst all the others filled with Halloween skeletons, body parts, and assorted creepy stuff, labeled: WRONG ADDRESS! Please Deliver to Elm Street, USA! (My husband is starting to look at me funny....didn't know this side of me!) Am I Sick???? Jeanni From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 15:50:03 1996 From: JeanniSkip@aol.com Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 18:38:10 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Magic Castle/Knott's Halloween Hellraiser! (Long) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Kathy wrote: << All this talk of Halloween at Knotts is really making me run to the travel agent and start booking!!! I hope someone is serious about getting it together and meeting down there!! >> and a few days earlier wrote: << Jeanni, That sounds like so much fun. A huge bunch of Halloween Freaks running around KBF scaring the ghouls. Not only that all of us in a Hotel together!! I want the room next to Denny's!! That way I will be close to were the party will be! I have talked to hubby and we would be game! Keep in touch about this idea so it does not die!!! Kathy >> Kathy, Die!?? No way...am hoping to put together a list of potential hellraisers, and have come up with the following partial list of Californians so far (many from Greg's posts, thanks, undertaker :D ). Please note, this is not a list of people who have indicated a desire to do the Knotts/MC thing! So far, Kathy, Harry/Tony, Greg and Doug (Sparks) are the only ones I know of who are interested in the group get-together....correct me if I am mistaken, Please! California Ghouls: Rick Hill, Dixon Don Bertino, Sacramento area Kathy, Sonoma Bob Andrews, Tracy Dave Bell, Campbell Jason Simpson, San Jose Lynne Miles, Orangevale Tracy Miller, Berkeley Matt Gomes, Bay area Jeanni, Tarzana (LA) Harry, Gardena (LA) Brian Henderson, Corona Bill Rothe, Anaheim Steve & Lori, Cypress Greg the Undertaker, Vista Aaron Greenrey, La Costa Diane Parham, E. County-S.D. Brenda Lewis, San Diego Dana Collins, San Diego Tom Oliver, El Cajon Doug Sparks, Poway Whew!! That's a lot!! Again, I am NOT assuming that these members are also interested in doing Magic Castle/Knotts next year as a group. However, IF YOU ARE INTERESTED in the group Halloween Hellraiser, and want to be included in any future related correspondence as well, please email me directly at JeanniSkip@aol.com. This suggestion is NOT meant to exclude anyone--I am only hoping to spare all the other listmembers (who can't or don't want to come) all the gory details, etc. that they probably don't want or need. Throughout the year tho, I do think it would be a good idea to post summary/updates to the list in case there are newcomers who might also want to participate. Again, THIS OFFER IS TO ALL listmembers, not just the Californians! So, if you'd like me to include you in future related correspondence, please let me know. Was it Rob Freeman who expressed an interest from the Midwest??? Or was that for the workshop idea only??? DJ--how about a vacation to Calif in October??? I am going to try to formulate some question and answers to find out what dates/times/etc are best for everyone, plus all the other related planning details that come to mind. Your suggestions/ideas would be welcomed! Here are some tentative thoughts: My guess (I'll be doing of lot of guessing until I hear from you) is that our Halloween Hellraiser would probably work best for most of us over a three day weekend, since both are late night events! Either a Fri/Sat/Sun or Sat/Sun/Mon. (Yes?No?) Some of you may only want to do one or the other, depending on work, time, money, etc. We could hit Knotts on Friday night and Magic Castle the next... OR...to avoid both Friday & Saturday night extra large crowds, do one on Saturday night (Magic Castle - probably less crowded) and hit Knotts on Sunday nite, going home late Monday afternoon. Plus, we could plan a brunch or luncheon on Sunday or Monday morning/afternoon (???) to visit, critique, share stories, pictures, haunt info, and so on...then scurry like the devil to get home and finish our Haunts in time for Halloween! There is a lot of information to obtain and post to help potential out-of-towners decide whether they can/want to join us, so I will try to gather as much info from my Magic Castle friend as possible (another friend just told me that they have a Seance Room which is offered to large groups..but cost may be prohibitive) and let you all know. I believe you can either do Dinner and the Show, or Show only. I'll get the rundown. For those of you who don't know what the Magic Castle is - neither do I! (I'm getting punchy...) Just kidding, but my knowledge IS limited having never been there. It is an exclusive, private club in LA consisting of members who are all Magicians, some professional, some hobbiests, some aspiring to be. It has been the launching ground for many popular Magicians you see on TV -names elude me right now. I'm told anyone can become a member by paying the dues...but evidently they are not cheap. >From the outside, it evidently appears that you are entering a small Victorian home, but inside are numerous rooms/bars, each with it's own theme. You are greeted by a phantom ghost pianist ... then you can visit the various rooms at your own pace, in order of interest. There is a closeup magic room, where the performer might even sit right at your table with you. I've heard there is a *Dungeon* room (probably suits our group!), plus various rooms with assorted types of Magic acts. There is one *Main* showroom, with a set showtime (I will find out) each night. There is also a large Victorian Dining room if you decide to do Dinner And Show (if you dine there first, you get to *cut* in front in the show line). I also believe there is a dress-code (one of the few places in LA anymore!) requiring jackets for men, and I have heard it is dressy. But once the show lets out, again you are on your own to visit the various rooms of magic at your own pace. I will make a point of getting all the details, but wanted to give an overview of what this place is like to those who've never even heard of it. Sounds like great fun to me!!! Harry! Would you be willing to find out next year's Haunt Dates for Knotts, and costs?? and post that info to the group??? Do you go in costume (thought I read not-- what about children??) I can also look into various hotel/motel rates around town (my stepdaughter is in the hotel business in LA) and try to find a good *group* rate!!!! Bates Motel would probably be real cheap!!! Kidding aside, a central location somewhere between Knotts (Buena Park) and Magic Castle (Hollywood) and LAX (for those flying in) should be considered. Carpooling with local listmembers would also help eliminate car rental costs to out-of-towners. We could take 2-3 people with us. Plus, I would guess that many of the San Diegans would opt to drive up rather than fly- so those who do will also have vehicles. Some of you may be wanting to bring the kids, too. I think children are not allowed (many of the *rooms* are bars) in the Magic Castle, and are restricted at Knotts Scary Farm (kids under 12, I think) too. Here are the dates of the three weekends preceeding Halloween - how about some input??? Tentative FRI/SAT/SUN Dates: Oct 10, 11, 12 17, 18, 19 24, 25, 26 Tentative SAT/SUN/MON dates: Oct 11, 12, 13 18, 19, 20 25, 26, 27 I will wait about a week to see how many responses I get before posting (on this subject) again...so be patient! Halloween Hellraiser, Jeanni From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 15:50:04 1996 From: JeanniSkip@aol.com Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 18:38:12 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Veteran's Day Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com John wrote: << >Thanks Denny. It's an honor to serve. >AZAN Jeffries, USS ENTERPRISE (CVN-65) to which, William replied: << Ah! You're the guy they named that access tube after on board the ship! ;-) -=- William Rompala Rompala Consulting>> Hey guys, I'm no techie...but isn't that the famous Jeffries Tube you're talking about???? Jeanni (Trekkie...not Techie) From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 15:50:06 1996 From: JeanniSkip@aol.com Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 18:38:12 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Living Wall Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Put on the spot by my earlier post, John wrote: <> ...or Holyfield, as the case may be.... Thanks for sharing your *Secret* John, :) What a great idea! Jeanni From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 15:50:33 1996 From: JeanniSkip@aol.com Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 18:38:02 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Contributers vs Lurkers -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com In a message dated 96-11-12 11:33:41 EST, you write: << Don't feel guilty. No true ghould feels guilt. >> Roger, I missed getting my email for two days and consequently went around with terrible anxiety and guilt feelings both days! And when I started sketching my Christmas yard layout...I went into a deep depression (Halloween withdrawals, maybe???) Still can't bring myself to sign up on the Xmas list yet.... BTW, is a *ghould* anything like a ghoul miner??? ;-) Jeanni From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 15:52:11 1996 From: JeanniSkip@aol.com Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 18:37:57 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Cemetary gate Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Don wrote: << > > I also understand it's pretty dangerous, thugs love to roll tourists in > there. I'm sure Doug know's alot more about them >> Doug knows about rolling tourists???!! I'm so disillusioned now... Jeanni (couldn't resist) ;) Strike Two?? From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 16:08:49 1996 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 18:56:10 -0500 (EST) To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Denny Kennedy Subject: Re: Important! -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 10:17 AM 11/12/96 -0500, you wrote: >I too received one from the little bugger. Was quite disturbing to say the least. :( Glad to see >somebody has finally taken care of the "situation". > Hmmm... When I first joined this list in October and posted asking for advice on my "gore-free" haunted house, I recieved a reply from someone, who proceeded to give me his opinion of "gore-free" in no uncertain terms... Unfortunautly, I didn't keep the mailing, as at that point I was not sure that this would be a problem... Could this be the same guy? >roger, personaly, i think that you can go...{cut due to content...} Yep,this sounds VERY much like the letter I recieved... the name Craig sounds familiar too... Whatta jerk... :( Dangit,I wish I'd kept that message..... >RE: MAJOR APOLOGIES!!! Actually,Roger,I'm glad I saw and recognized this guy's message...Makes me happy that Juno is doing something about it...(Juno? DO something?? The world must be coming to an end...they can't even seem to send me software upgrades...:( ) hehe:) N-E-way, please don't leave the list! P.S. If this letter seems odd,it's because I'm responding while reading thru your 400+ posts from the last few days...haven't had a chance to read my Email lately... Denny Kennedy maryjane@sundial.net From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 16:09:28 1996 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 15:06:29 -0700 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Once again. Call for Photos -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com How old do you want these things? I've got some real old stuff From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 16:09:41 1996 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 18:55:53 -0500 (EST) To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Denny Kennedy Subject: My Haunted Porch(LONG!) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com I decided to post the description of my haunted porch for all to see:) Sorry it took me so long, I have been really busy the last week:) Denny Kennedy's Haunted Porch Walk-Thru: My entire front porch is enclosed in a black plastic tarp, with strips on the enterance and exit(Like so... |||||| ) The porch runs the legnth of the front of my house, from the garage door to the master bedroom. Outside the haunt,there are a few ghost bags(white garbage bags stuffed with newspaper) and a set of 10 skull lights. You enter the haunt through the side of the porch,next to the garage. As you enter,there is a rubber spider with long legs dangling from the ceiling, just low enough to brush the heads of the visitors. On the left(The wall of the house) is a window with a couple of those plastic shillouettes, a skeleton and a werewolf. They are lit from behind by a gooseneck desk lamp on the floor, with a 40 watt bulb. Under and just beyond the window is the "Gravesite". There is a pair of plastic tombstones against the wall ( nothing special, just "R.I.P."), and a pile of sand on the floor to simulate a freshly dug grave. On the right, next to the tarp, is "Freddy", a dummy made of a shirt stuffed with newspapers, a cheap skull mask, and an old hat. He looks like he's coming out of the "grave". Just beyond Freddy, on the other side of a column, hangs a ghost with a lit torch in his hand. The torch has a 2.5v flashlight bulb, but it really puts out a lot of light. Looks really eerie.... Hanging from the middle of the ceiling is one of those noise-activated ghosts that glows, shakes, and makes that "OOOOOOOeeeeeeeeOOOOOOOeeeeeeeee" noise. It goes off whenever someone screams! Meanwhile, on the left are two more windows. Each has a high-backed Victorian-style gold- upholstered chair facing it(inside), with curtains cutting off the view into the house. On the first chair is an animated vampire figure, about 18" tall,holding a skull. The second chair has a skull candelabra with flickering bulbs, and a coffin about 1' long out of which another vampire rises and lays back down. Both the standing vampire and coffin make noise, and both chairs are adorned with rats, skulls, and spiderwebs. Betwen the chairs is a portable cassette stereo with one of those horror sounds tapes in it. It really makes a lot of noise. At the very end of the porch, next to the exit, is a cardboard coffin with a glow-in-the-dark plastic skeleton(about 5' tall) in it The coffin is standing upright, and supported with string(More later) Finally, across from the enterance(on the left) is an alcove where my front door is. I'm sitting there in a chair, wearing a brown robe and a vynil skull mask, and I don't move. People can't see me until they are right on top of me. Then,I suddenly jump towards them and make a growling noise. I can REALLY scare people this way:). Even the ones who know about me, and whom I hear all the way thru the haunt telling each other "Hey,watch out,a guy's gonna jump out at the end", scream and run out the exit! And some of the girls who see me scream without me having to do anything at all... Other years I've tried other tactics. Last year, I just sat there moving like one of those animatronic figures. There was one guy who couldn't figure out how I could hold still so long. He actually asked my father how much I had had to drink! The first few years I did this, I just stood in the alcove and jumped out in front of people, which often sent them running all the way back through the haunt to the enterance! This lost it's effectiveness when everyone knew to expect it,though... There is also a black light bulb in my porch light, right above where I am. Now for some technical details...well,there's not much to tell. I don't call my haunt the "Wal- Mart Special" for no reason...hehe:) All of the moving figures are store-bought stuff. BUT, now that I've joined the list, I'm coming up with all kinds of ideas that even I could build for next year... As for what few details there are, here we go... The tarp is thick black plastic, held up with industrial staples to the roof of the porch. The bottom of the tarp is staked down to avoid it blowing in the wind. Usually we have some fair winds on Halloween, but this year was unusually calm. Several of the figures inside the haunt are held to the wooden roof with cuphooks or staples. The dummy Freddy is on a stake to keep him from clllapsing, and to prevent him from losing his head to theives like last year... I had a devil of a time trying to figure how to make the coffin stand up, but finally I ran a string through the folded cardboard on top and tied it to a screw eye in the roof. this way the coffin would not fall over or put too much weight on the tarp. Denny Kennedy maryjane@sundial.net From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 16:10:06 1996 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 18:56:06 -0500 (EST) To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Denny Kennedy Subject: Re: chat rooms Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 02:48 AM 11/9/96 -0800, you wrote: >Does anyone here go to any chat rooms from time to time?If they do can >you tell me what room and what time and what time zone your in. I like >posting but it would be fun to have a more interactive conversation once >in a while. >HAVE A NICE DAY!!!! >ANEurysm > I often frequet the chat room #nancyjay. It's on the Undernet. Come join if you like, but remember it's G-rated chat and you'll get booted if you say or do anything offensive:) Denny Kennedy maryjane@sundial.net From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 16:17:21 1996 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 18:56:01 -0500 (EST) To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Denny Kennedy Subject: Re: server glitch Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 08:15 PM 11/8/96 -0800, you wrote: >Denny, I think we're having server indigestion. I've been getting bounce >back messages indicating that my posts are being sent to the following address: > > daemon@MAIL.GLO.STATE.TX.US > >These same posts are making it to our list, so it seems as though our server >is trying to post to another member or ??? > >Greg >H (619)945-4424 >F (619)726-2804 >E ghope@mailhost.csusm.edu Indeed, my letter on Church Street got bounced, but it appeared on the list anyway...??? > Denny Kennedy maryjane@sundial.net From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 16:18:42 1996 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 16:15:14 -0700 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Cemetery Gate Pictures -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Bob, I'm still perusing your cemetery gate pics! I almost died(!) when I saw the Glenwood gate. This is in DC, for those of you who aren't around here, and I found it when the shuttle to the Bureau of Mines in Avondale, MD from the downtown headquarters took a route that looked as if you were going to drive right in! There is an eerie monument in this cemetery of a 2-year-old turn-of-the-century (19-20th) sitting in a rocking chair. I have a pic somewhere. Loved the music! Must peruse this further later! I found the gate pics...amazing...I am truly stunned... Thanks! From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 16:22:45 1996 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 19:09:01 -0500 (EST) To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Denny Kennedy Subject: Re: Northern Californians? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Is anyone on the list from Florida? Denny Kennedy maryjane@sundial.net From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 16:25:00 1996 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 15:15:10 -0700 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Too old to trick or treat? -Reply -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Excuse me. I went trick-or-treating this year. I am over 21. Hell, I'm over (gasp!) 31! There is no reason to penalize the older kids and young adults who, like YOU, enjoy Halloween and might just get the idea to decorate their own house. A couple of $h!++y little 8-year-olds stole decorations from a friends house a couple of years back. Do what we did eventually...have a greeter at the edge of your property as part of the show. From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 16:25:38 1996 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 19:12:38 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Eileen & Bob Holze Subject: Re: Member List Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Got it. Although I am interested in Halloween from the food - favors perspective, I found this list quite informative and would like to remain on it. Eileen From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 16:26:13 1996 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 16:17:03 -0700 From: Lauren Jones To: rinkevr@epix.net, halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Pennsylvania -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com I don't live in PA, but I have friends who do. It's a big state--where in general are you? :-) From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 16:27:26 1996 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 16:29:33 -0700 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Pennsylvania -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hey, everybody...let's stop at Bill's mother-in-law's on the way to Hersheypark... From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 16:34:45 1996 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 15:42:54 -0700 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: RE: Too old to trick or treat? -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com You tell 'em, Jacqui! From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 16:34:47 1996 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 15:56:36 -0700 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Contributors vs. lurkers -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com I haven't done my house for years, and it's been a few years since I helped someone else with theirs. But from time to time someone asks how to do something, and I have some experience on how to do it cheap to share. And frankly, I get a big kick out of hearing everyone's ideas. If I hadn't been on this list, I would have missed out on Bill's house. Hopefully, there will be others to see next year. This year I was involved with the aftermath of a car accident, jury duty, official travel, etc. The next haunt I do won't be a haunt but a turn-of-the-century style mystical Halloween party (Jenny, Karen, etc., make note...!), but I still like hearing all the horror-themed stuff. Keep up the good work everybody! From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 16:41:13 1996 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 15:35:18 -0700 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Tall Kids Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com I was very tall for my age. I was always a head taller than everyone else, as well as one of the youngest in the class. I couldn't get into a damned movie for under 12 when I was barely 10 unless I had some kind of proof of age. I think if someone had told me that I couldn't trick-or-treat--ME, who was the biggest (in other ways!) Halloween fan on the street--because I was "too big," by God, they would have deserved to have their mailboxes ripped off. [Karen, Jenny--hold me back--] I have had troublemakers come to my door in years past (a big, mean-looking black dog helps a lot here), but I've also had what looked like a gang descending on my house and it turned out to be the little kids down the street who had visited in my first years of haunting coming back with their friends. These big, 6-footers shyly asking if it was okay to stick their heads inside and no, they didn't need candy, and it was so great when they were little, etc. I think we need some perspective here. The big guys like to believe in magic, too, you know, and there are some pretty scummy 10-year-olds. From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 17:35:54 1996 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 20:13:53 -0500 From: Crypt Subject: Re: Veteran's Day To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com William E Rompala wrote: > > >milwiron@btprod.com wrote: > >> > >> Special thanks to any veterans on the list, not just today but every day. > >> > >> Denny > MAny thanx from all of you. Glad some remember us. A Vietnam Vet L8r Crypt From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 17:36:42 1996 From: "Jim Baggett" To: Subject: Chat rooms Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 20:17:47 -0500 Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com I go to the Comics and Stuff chat at wbs.net. Mind you the comics are comic books. Hey what can I say Halloween and Comics. Yes life is good. If you do stop by I'll be Haltwhistle. Charmaine > At 02:48 AM 11/9/96 -0800, you wrote: > >Does anyone here go to any chat rooms from time to time?If they do can > >you tell me what room and what time and what time zone your in. I like > >posting but it would be fun to have a more interactive conversation once > >in a while. > >HAVE A NICE DAY!!!! > >ANEurysm > > > > I often frequet the chat room #nancyjay. It's on the Undernet. Come join > if you like, but remember it's G-rated chat and you'll get booted if you say > or do anything offensive:) > Denny Kennedy > maryjane@sundial.net > > rom owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 19:47:48 1996 > Return-Path: owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com > Received: from majordomo.netcom.com (listless.netcom.com [206.217.29.105]) by bge.bealenet.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA32226 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 19:47:47 -0500 > Received: by majordomo.netcom.com (8.7.5/8.7.3/(NETCOM MLS v1.01)) id PAA07682; Tue, 12 Nov 1996 15:42:24 -0800 (PST) > From: JeanniSkip@aol.com > Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 18:37:57 -0500 > Message-ID: <961112183756_1648137821@emout18.mail.aol.com> > To: halloween-l@netcom.com > Subject: Re: Cemetary gate > Sender: owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com > Errors-To: owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com > Precedence: bulk > Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com > > Don wrote: > > << > > > I also understand it's pretty dangerous, thugs love to roll tourists in > > there. I'm sure Doug know's alot more about them > >> > > Doug knows about rolling tourists???!! I'm so disillusioned now... > > Jeanni (couldn't resist) ;) > Strike Two?? From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 17:50:45 1996 From: DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 19:29:21 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Cemetary gate To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com >Doug knows about rolling tourists???!! And how! About two years ago, we had some guests come in for Mardi Gras. They arrived late at night, and stopped in front of our apartment's parking lot while I was making room for them to park. As I was locking up my vehicle after having moved it, I heard a crashing sound, and spun around to look. There I was, with the driver of the guests' vehicle, staring in horror at his car, which had just been struck from behind by a pickup truck going 35 MPH, the driver apparently oblivious. With a lady in the back seat, the car rolled down the parkway, flames gushing from the trunk! We ran toward the fireball, to rescue the passenger in whatever way we could... I thought that, surely, the gas tank would soon explode! We managed to get her out, and the front seat passenger got himself out. The car, without an explosion, burned itself to the ground, as the firemen and neighbors looked on. The driver finally admitted to me that the fire came from an (now get this) OPEN pitcher of gasoline left in the trunk for the purpose of pouring down the carb to start the engine! I was mortified at his carelessness, and told him so. All of his worldly possessions were in the car - as ashes, finally. Rolling tourists? Oh, yes. :-/ -Doug *********************************************************************** * Safety, Courtesy, Show and Efficiency: * Doug Ferguson * * The Keys To The Kingdom * dwfww@jazz.ucc.uno.edu * *********************************************************************** P.S. Safety tip: Don't play with gasoline. It goes boom. From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 17:52:59 1996 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 96 19:22:14 CST To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: robdoc@startribune.com (Robyn Dochterman) Subject: Re: Is there a Techno-Elite? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com When I finally caught up on my e-mail a bit, and read Doug's note: >but how would you feel about seeing a series of short articles on >a few of the basics in the fields of electrical wiring (as regards the >special needs of SFX), soldering, hookup of pneumatic systems, etc.? I was delighted. And eager. A complete newbie, I decided to get my feet wet this year by making Doug's FCG, and when I had questions, he was unbelievably helpful. In fact, I love the wonderful sense of community on this list. And I'm hooked. I bought a soldering gun. I had to get a vise to bend the aluminum for the crank arm on my ghost. I learned what a gear motor is (still don't know what a step motor is, though). I don't hang my head because I don't know a lot (no one told me why I might want to learn this sort of stuff). But I want to learn. I've already told people what I want for Christmas is a beginners' book on electronics. (BTW, just what IS a solenoid?). Heck, if there was a beginning Imagineers camp, I'd sign up today (hint,hint) and happily plunk my money down. I appreciate all the wonderful ideas, big and small, and I'm VERY excited at the possibility of learning the basics in several areas. Of course, when I have information to offer, I'll certainly do that too. --Robyn Robyn Dochterman Interactive editor Star Tribune Online Robdoc@startribune.com http://www.startribune.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 18:07:34 1996 From: DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 19:49:20 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Is there a Techno-Elite? To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com >Heck, if there was a beginning Imagineers camp, I'd sign up today >(hint,hint) and happily plunk my money down. Robyn, You are one step ahead of me. With any luck, the first post will go up late tonight, and will deal specifically with the process of imagineering - the mindset and some suggested steps in getting a unique project off the ground. The nuts'n'bolts stuff will follow, to include 'soldering 101', 'the on's and off's of relays', etc. I can't promise that this material will come on any kind of regular schedule, but it will be available. Based upon the very cooperative attitude I have seen from our wonderful listmembers, we should also see a healthy appendix to each chapter, with even more useful data, and corrections for my inevitable errors. Once all of this is done, we'll have a basic text to which we can point new members who will inevitably ask about these subjects in the future. It will also evolve into 'Phantasmechanics', as I have said, which will include illustrations and even more data. Get ready. We're going to literally write the book on our collective hobby. -Doug *********************************************************************** * Safety, Courtesy, Show and Efficiency: * Doug Ferguson * * The Keys To The Kingdom * dwfww@jazz.ucc.uno.edu * *********************************************************************** From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 18:08:43 1996 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 17:43:26 -0800 From: Bob Andrews To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Cemetery Gate Pictures -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Lauren Jones wrote: > There is an eerie monument in this cemetery of > a 2-year-old turn-of-the-century (19-20th) sitting > in a rocking chair. I have a pic somewhere. Oh, please find it! It sounds very spooky! > > Loved the music! Must peruse this further later! > > I found the gate pics...amazing...I am truly > stunned... Thanks! And thank you for the adverising on your page! Bob Andrews bandrews@inreach.com http://www.anaserve.com/~BoBandrews From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 18:21:37 1996 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 20:59:37 -0500 (EST) From: RevCOAL To: Lauren Jones Subject: Re: X-Files Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com On Tue, 12 Nov 1996, Lauren Jones wrote: > Does anyone watch X-Files? If I hear one more > person say SAM-HAYNE, I'm going to scream. I usually watch the X-Files, but this week opted for the PBS documentary on WWI instead. Yep, everyone mispronounces the Celtic holiday...about the same amount of people who mispronounce the word 'Celtic' itself.... Donna ;-) From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 18:23:10 1996 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 21:02:16 From: JBKadel@gnn.com (Jim Kadel) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: My Haunted Porch(LONG!) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com >And some of the girls who see me >scream without me having to do anything at all... Story of my life, Denny. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Jim Kadel (JBKadel@gnn.com) If it moves and it shouldn't - use duct tape If it doesn't move and it should - reanimate xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 18:32:37 1996 From: htraver@dreamsys.com Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 18:12:26 -0700 Subject: Magic Castle/Knott's Halloween Hellraiser! (Long) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Jeanni, generally, Knotts does their haunts for friday, saturday and sunday of each weekend, plus Halloween night. We are going for both friday and sunday, as the Haunt really takes two days to see everything :) Also, can sleep one or two here.... Harry [ Sent From: Dreamscape Systems - dreamsys.com ] [ Location: Van Nuys, CA - (818) 781-7529 ] From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 18:45:53 1996 From: htraver@dreamsys.com Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 18:23:00 -0700 Subject: Re: PROMO SIGNS Was Contributors vs. lurkers, To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Kathy, some other sources for laser beams might be old laserdisc players or CD players that can no longer run. For the Cd player, take it out of the casing, and figure out how to keep the door closed, cutting a hole in it or something to make it think the door is still closed :) Clever idea of finding the old scanners.... For mirror fun, cement a small mirror to the shaft oif a tape recorder motor. if it's angled a tiny bit, aim the laser right at it, and you get a laser cone. Down a hallway with a fog machine, you have your guests travelling into a vortex of light (saw this used once years back, thought it was a neat effect)... Harry [ Sent From: Dreamscape Systems - dreamsys.com ] [ Location: Van Nuys, CA - (818) 781-7529 ] From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 18:46:39 1996 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 18:16:51 -0800 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Greg Hope Subject: Re: Important! -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com >Hmmm... When I first joined this list in October and posted asking for >advice on my "gore-free" haunted house, I recieved a reply from someone, who Denny, you'll receive a thumbs-up from me on the idea of a "gore-free" haunt. I'm giving serious thought to how a superior haunt could be contrived with emphasis given to suspense, illusion and environment, and putting the soft pedal on gore, violence and inhumanity. I'm not a bible beater, I just think that there are frontiers in haunts that haven't yet been explored. Greg T (619) 945-4424 F (619) 726-2804 E ghope@mailhost.csusm.edu From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 18:59:55 1996 From: KBarn37781@aol.com Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 21:36:48 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: jug skeletons Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Karen P, Did you receive my message that I would be glad to be the guinnie pig. I havent heard from you so I wasn't sure. Karen From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 19:12:45 1996 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: JUNO routing From: rodney3@juno.com (Rodney G Grantham) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 21:33:33 EST Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Mine goes through Boston and I live in Atlanta (Roswell) GA. Rodney rodney3@juno.com http://www.geocities.com/NapaValley/2049 On Tue, 12 Nov 96 12:49:44 PST "Sparks, Doug" writes: > Well if you use Peoplefinder, there are quite a few Dennistons, >but only 12 listings in the Boston area. (which is useless if juno's email >for the east coast goes through a single server location.) From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 19:12:51 1996 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 18:50:09 -0800 From: rleach@pongo.West.Sun.COM (Roy Leach) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Is there a Techno-Elite? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com {El sniparoony} > I don't hang my head because I don't know a lot (no one told me why I might > want to learn this sort of stuff). But I want to learn. I've already told > people what I want for Christmas is a beginners' book on electronics. (BTW, > just what IS a solenoid?). A solenoid is one of those Domino's Pizza critters who lives alone. Now seriously folks...A solenoid is a device that moves in a linear direction (ie. in & out). It is actually an electromagnet around a piece of iron. When electricity is passed through wire, a magnetic field is created all along the wire*. If you take a long piece of wire and wrap it around a spool, then put electricity through it, the magnetic field is greater(you're taking the field from all along the wire and focusing it in one area). This is called an electro magnet. Iron is greatly attracted to magnetic fields, hence it is a great choice for using in solenoids. This iron bar slides in and out of the center of the spool of wire and is called the plunger(imagine a pencil sliding through the center of a spool of thread). A spring holds the plunger most of the way of of the spool. When electricity goes through the coil of wire, a magnetic field is created and the iron bar gets pulled into the center of the coil (that's where the magnetic field is the strongest). It remains there as long as there is electricity going through the coil (because as long as there is electricity, there is a magnetic field). Once the electricity is no longer flowing, the spring pulls the plunger back out of the coil. There has been much talk on the list about "washer solenoids". What these are are solenoids that control the water flow to a washing machine. This is done by pulling open a valve, that lets water flow, by using a solenoid. * Electricity flowing one direction will create a North-South magnetic field. If the electricity is reversed (eg. + & - are reversed), a South-North magnetic field will be created. Since AC (alternating Current) reverses + & - 60 times a second (in the USA), the magnetic field will constantly be changing and thus, not very powerful or useful. In short, you must use DC power for electromagnets. roy. From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 19:23:11 1996 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 22:04:57 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: "Freya E. Harris" Subject: Re: PROMO SIGNS Was Contributors vs. lurkers, Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com I've been reading this thread about promotional displays in stores, and I would like to know if any of you ghoulies, ghosties, long-leggitie beasties or things that go bump in the night know who manufactures such displays, and how I can get in touch with them. Thanks in advance for any help any of y'all can provide. - Fearless Freya of Arty Atlanta _____ / \ | |||| | THERE'S | |||| | ONE \ /||||\ / IN | | |||| | | EVERY | | |||| | | CROWD! | | | | ~ ~ From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 19:49:11 1996 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 19:30:06 -0800 From: bobpony@ix.netcom.com (Bob Poniatowski) Subject: Gore-Free, Dial-In Scares (was: Important! Read This!) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com You wrote: > >>Hmmm... When I first joined this list in October and posted asking for >>advice on my "gore-free" haunted house, I recieved a reply from someone, who > >Denny, you'll receive a thumbs-up from me on the idea of a "gore-free" >haunt. I'm giving serious thought to how a superior haunt could be >contrived with emphasis given to suspense, illusion and environment, and >putting the soft pedal on gore, violence and inhumanity. I'm not a bible >beater, I just think that there are frontiers in haunts that haven't yet >been explored. > Add me to that list please! I've got a three year old daughter who does not need to be exposed to a gorey Halloween (my kid, my call...you're welcome to decide for your kids!). So...I want to enjoy Halloween, and have some scary fun...but gore-free! What sort of things have people done? I've seen a thread focused on recreating "classic" movie monsters for next year...this sounds like a good direction to go...any other thoughts on how to "dial-in" the scary factor? Cheers, Bob Pony New to the list...but I've caught the Halloween '97 bug! Thanks, From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 20:02:29 1996 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 22:40:47 -0500 From: Rob Freeman To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Too old to trick or treat? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com I always asked the taller girls that came trick-or-treating how old they were and if they lived in the neighborhood. I found most of my babysitters that way. This year, one girl wouldn't give her age (about 16-17). More importantly, she wouldn't say "Trick or Treat". (Needless to say, it's a requirement at my house. I figure that I go through the trouble of putting out all of my monsters, the least the kids can do is beg properly!) After giving her several opportunities, I refused to give her any treats. So she pulls out her cell-phone and threatens to call her boyfriend! I told her to go ahead so she did. After a couple of pleasentries, she hung up. Of course, nothing came of it. But she didn't get any treats either. -- Happy Haunting Rob Freeman freemanr@oeonline.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 20:20:12 1996 From: Scott Axworthy Subject: Re: Important! -Reply...now gore-free To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 20:03:11 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Greg: Greg Hope writes: > > >Hmmm... When I first joined this list in October and posted asking for > >advice on my "gore-free" haunted house, I recieved a reply from someone, who > > Denny, you'll receive a thumbs-up from me on the idea of a "gore-free" > haunt. I'm giving serious thought to how a superior haunt could be > contrived with emphasis given to suspense, illusion and environment, and > putting the soft pedal on gore, violence and inhumanity. I'm not a bible > beater, I just think that there are frontiers in haunts that haven't yet > been explored. > At least all this denniston crap has lead to a good subject, the gore-free haunt. There are many of us who think "gore-free" in our haunts. I still have no idea how gore/slasher/chain-saws/etc. became equated with Halloween. There is no connection whatsoever! There is a *lot* of wierd stuff that is truly a derivative of Celtic/Ancient Rome/Feast of Pompona/ Anthesteria/Samhain/Christian/etc./etc./etc. origins, but gore is not one of them. In the great calender of Halloween history, gore would show up about December 28th. (How's that for Carl Sagan-ism.) That all being said, I don't mind all the gore haunts. They will just make mine all the more interesting by comparison. And I'm not above using a severed part here or there but as a theme it just doesn't hack it (pardon the pun.) As I mentioned eons ago, I'm a big fan of setting the proper mood. Put in place the proper ambiance and the imagination of your victim, I mean guest ;-), will do 90% of the work for you. And I couldn't agree more with your last statement about the frontiers in haunts not being explored yet. -Scott (Start Star Trek theme music now (original, of course) Haunts, the final frontier. These are the voyages of the .... (you get the idea) -- Scott Axworthy Phone: 206-649-7668