Cascade Design Automation Fax: 206-649-7600 scott@cdac.com http://www.cdac.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 20:20:33 1996 From: Ldwarf@aol.com Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 23:02:10 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: << waterfall made of skulls >> Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com hi all...... i had been thinking about a fountain of skulls or perhaps a pool of blood with a skull that would rise and fall from the pool, i had no time to try it this year, but i will work on it for next year.. my idea was to use a pop up sprinkler head...(like what is used in outdoor automatic watering systems )) attached to a recirculating pump in the pool.. the skull would be mounted to the top of the pop up head , so it would rise and fall as the H2O preasure changes.. the pump switch would be controlled by a preasure sensitive matt near the pond or pool . the skull would remain under the surface till the pump kicked on.. then it would rise out of the pool and above the surface on a stream of blood... or so i think it would... i like the idea of using a pop up sprinkler as the method of creating motion because it is a " cheap" piston that wouldnt be affected by the liquid....and the liquid that sprays out would drip out the mouth and neck hole, to cover the piston/sprinkler head.... i have seen pop up sprinklers at the home depot. (.. god, i love that store.. ) that pop up what looks to be almost a foot.. and i dont think the weight of a plastic skull is that great of a burden ..but the big question that i have is....how much H2O preasure does it take to activate one of those pop up thingies ( yikes... that sounded technical ).... what sort of pump would i need.......could i use the little ones that are sold for creating H2O falls in back yardponds... ???? will it create enough preasure ??...... anyone care to coment or help with imput ??? would love to brainstorm. a somewhat technical lurker Scott From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 20:50:19 1996 From: htraver@dreamsys.com Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 19:38:50 -0700 Subject: Re: Is there a Techno-Elite? To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Well Robyn, to answer some questions, a stepper motor is one you can start and stop at certain positions. useful for mouth and leg movements on a robotic or an effect. wiring those is a little tricky, so that's a topic for later. Regular motors are much easier, they turn on when you apply power. a mechanical crank to a motor and the fun begins! A solonoid is a coil of wire with a plunger which pulls in when you apply power. Pinball machines use solonoids to pull up the flippers. Another solonoid is the door release to apartments. Basically, a solonoid will pull a metal piece a certain distance in (about an inch or so) when you hit the power. blinking eyelids or releasing a mechanical would be done by solonoids. also, for beginner's radio shack has some nice learning kits which step through. some of them have neat things useful for halloween, such as a doorbell, a solonoid or motor in the kit, those kind of things :) Harry [ Sent From: Dreamscape Systems - dreamsys.com ] [ Location: Van Nuys, CA - (818) 781-7529 ] From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 20:53:23 1996 From: JMccoog@aol.com Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 23:34:40 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: little disappointed Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Carl wrote: All I can say is A T.C.T. half built is half as scary. Carl, Fear not, even though I personally didn't build the TCT, I printed the directions for my very mechanically inclined brother who made it for me, complete with extended arms. We made one teenage girl scream so loud you could hear it in the next town and she nearly ran over a small kiddo halfway down the driveway. Everyone loved it even requesting that we set it off again. It was truly the highlight of our display with a close second being the flying ghost and the three pumpkins with fog. In fact, we made as many of the list items as we had time for - graveyard fence from pvc and 2x4, styro tombstones, mausoleum, and organ with pvc pipes. Our neighbors couldn't believe how much stuff we put out in 4 hours. If I get educated enough in web pages I might even post some pictures. Thanks to all for their great ideas. I'm taking notes... Mary Ann Another house haunter... p.s. Carl, my brother and his friend looked like proud parents when they demo'd the TCT. I think I've converted them to Halloweeners. From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 22:40:42 1996 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 22:57:02 +0000 From: "Sherri (Ozzy)" To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Contributors vs. lurkers Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com JeanniSkip@aol.com wrote: > the others filled with Halloween skeletons, body parts, and assorted creepy > stuff, labeled: WRONG ADDRESS! Please Deliver to Elm Street, USA! (My > husband is starting to look at me funny....didn't know this side of me!) Am > I Sick???? > Jeanni I love your idea!!!!!!! If you are sick, can I join that club????? Sherri(Ozzy) ~ http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/7997/ c-n-s.ozzy@Worldnet.att.net ~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~* "Don't look back, they may be gaining on you!" ~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~* From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Nov 12 23:29:52 1996 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 11:09:36 -0800 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: MAJOR APOLOGIES!!! Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Roger, Lets face it, these notes we received were very rough, and they did upset us. The fact that it was sent to the list was a accident, and nothing else!! Maybe it was for the good in a way so that we can all keep a eye out for the little darling!! Don't sweat it!! Kathy the new kid on the crypt mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 00:29:13 1996 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 12:05:37 -0800 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Contributers vs Lurkers -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Jeanni, I found a way to deal with Halloween being over and Christmas coming up. I took the cornstalks and pumpkins and made a little patch in the front yard. Then I added my scarecrow, pumpkin head showing not skull, and I have a autumn setup!! Now I can glide into Christmas slowly...I hate Halloween let down... Kathy the new kid on the crypt mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 00:40:30 1996 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 01:15:50 +0000 From: "Sherri (Ozzy)" To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Too old to trick or treat? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Rob Freeman wrote: >I found most of my babysitters that way. What a great idea!!!! >she wouldn't say "Trick or Treat". (Needless to say, it's >a requirement at my house. That is a requirement at our house too. If they are too old to wear a costume and to say trick or treat, then they are too old!!!!!! -- Sherri(Ozzy) ~ http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/7997/ c-n-s.ozzy@Worldnet.att.net ~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~* "Don't look back, they may be gaining on you!" ~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~* From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 03:13:59 1996 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 96 06:04:12 EST To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Bill Lewis Subject: Re: Is there a Techno-Elite? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 07:22 PM 11/12/96 CST, you wrote: > (BTW, >just what IS a solenoid?). A Solenoid is basically an electromagnet that pulls a bar through it's magnetic field. This linear motion can then be used to activate things like valves. I have a couple of old massive ones that came out of clothes washers (about 30 years ago). My father salvaged them to use for an automatic horse feeder that he invented. Bill Lewis NSWC Carderock Division Code 6060 (301) 227-2742 lewisw@oasys.dt.navy.mil lewisb@erols.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 03:18:59 1996 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 96 06:08:49 EST To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Bill Lewis Subject: Re: Is there a Techno-Elite? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 07:38 PM 11/12/96 -0700, you wrote: > >Well Robyn, to answer some questions, a stepper motor is one you can >start and stop at certain positions. useful for mouth and leg movements >on a robotic or an effect. Let me add that stepper motors require computer control. They ain't gonna be cheap either. Bill Lewis NSWC Carderock Division Code 6060 (301) 227-2742 lewisw@oasys.dt.navy.mil lewisb@erols.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 04:01:34 1996 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 96 06:52:59 EST To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Bill Lewis Subject: Re: Pennsylvania -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 04:29 PM 11/12/96 -0700, you wrote: >Hey, everybody...let's stop at Bill's >mother-in-law's on the way to Hersheypark... Actually you have to right by the Hershey factory to get to her house, in Anneville (sp?) aka Lebonan, (also sp?) like in the baloney. Bill Lewis NSWC Carderock Division Code 6060 (301) 227-2742 lewisw@oasys.dt.navy.mil lewisb@erols.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 04:19:01 1996 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 07:05:38 -0500 From: TERESA WHITT To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: So You Think U R Not Technical? -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Cute!! Made my day. I guess there is hope for me. From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 06:41:59 1996 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 16:18:16 -0800 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: My Haunted Porch(LONG!) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Denny, It sounds great to me!! I don't think it matters if you use big $ things or WalMart specials, all that counts are the screams. And from the sound of things you get a 4* scream score!!! Very good!!! Now just a sick thought, but maybe next year have a real dummy in your spot and get them from the back or something!! I love getting those kids that say " I know what is going to happen" and then get them from another side!!! Great Job, and I love the chairs in the windows. Kathy the new kid on the crypt mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 07:01:51 1996 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 16:35:30 -0800 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: PROMO SIGNS Was Contributors vs. lurkers, Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Harry, Thanks for the great idea!! That is just the look we are wanting is that walking into the light feeling!! I will keep this one in my special tech files. Flea Markets this weekend and garage sales for old disc players. Kathy the new kid on the crypt mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 07:11:05 1996 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 16:47:03 -0800 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: X-Files Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com OK!! After hearing everyone in the world say " You don't watch the Xfiles" I decided to watch it. Sorry, but it did nothing for me. Great Gross out effect with taking his face off, but the story line was really dull. Is this their best or did I just hit them on a bad night?? Kathy the new kid on the crypt mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 07:24:51 1996 From: DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 09:14:17 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: PROMO SIGNS Was Contributors vs. lurkers, To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Regarding the lasers found in CD players, most of them are infrared, and therefore invisible to the eye. They also pose the risk of accidentally pointing the beam at the retina of the eye, which can be harmful. Be careful... ;-) -Doug *********************************************************************** * Safety, Courtesy, Show and Efficiency: * Doug Ferguson * * The Keys To The Kingdom * dwfww@jazz.ucc.uno.edu * *********************************************************************** From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 07:28:29 1996 From: DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 09:15:43 -0600 (CST) Subject: The imagineering how-to, part 1 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com "It takes each and every one of us to make our ideas real. It seldom comes easy. Our process works because as individuals, we approach the idea differently, but together, we share a single vision." -from _Disney Imagineering_ ------------------------------ H A L L O W E E N : J U S T I M A G I N E ! Part 1: Introduction We all have different memories of Halloween. For most of us, the fascination began when we were children. Whether it was the joy of dressing up in costume, the quest for candy, the scary fun of the night-time rounds as trick-or-treaters, or that strange attraction to the very things we feared, for some reason we all eventually wound up in the somewhat odd-seeming pursuit of making the scariest holiday into a hobby. Our very presence on this list confirms it. It might seem to the larger part of the population of this country that the Christmas season offers the most promise for creative visual decoration, what with all the glittering items stocked by a myriad of vendors across the nation in seemingly endless variety. However, upon examination, the darkened theater provided to us by Halloween holds more possibilities for the dedicated decorator than any other holiday season. It offers mystery, suspense, and the kind of cathartic release which can only come as the after-effect of a good scare. There is the subtle interplay of light and shadow; the gothic presence of a fantastic history which we have never truly witnessed, but know we are about to; the tension which is born of the connection between what we cannot see and what we imagine might be hiding just beyond reach - all of this provokes a fascination in our intended audience, and in ourselves. Halloween is drama, pure and simple. The present introductory chapter is presented in hopes of inspiring you to take your participation in the season at least one step further than you ever have before. Perhaps you have never done anything more complicated than carving a pumpkin, or hanging up carefully chosen decor. Nonetheless, your imagination has been at work, you had to wield a tool, and you had to make decisions. Some, at this juncture, might argue, "I am not an artist! I am no good at anything that requires creativity!" Nonsense. You have imposed your own vision on an event. Arguably, therefore, you are already an artist, because one of the functions an artist performs is that of the selector. The artist chooses what to represent, how to represent it, and then proceeds to act on the choice. Anyone who is sufficiently motivated can discover the meaning of art, which might be simply stated as the ability to observe, interpret, and finally to represent the interpretation creatively. Creativity is the crux of the magic in art, and one of the best ways to achieve creativity is to broaden your experience with as many tools as possible. Creativity, after all, is really ability led by imagination. In this series of articles, you will be exposed to a few simple tools and ideas, and provided with some exercises which will hopefully help you learn to use them. You will be asked to try things you may have never attempted before. If you have never done any electrical wiring, or picked up a soldering iron, don't be afraid to give these exercises a try. They are intended as 'confidence builders,' which, if successful, will add to your abilities, and to your enjoyment of our mutual hobby. WHAT IS IMAGINEERING? The type of magic required to make Halloween come alive in the 'real world' relates to theater. Staging, lighting, action, and timing all come into play. When Walt Disney decided to bring his two-dimensional screen entertainment into three-dimensional space for an audience to explore, he enlisted his experts in the domain of film production to use their knowledge of staging, set design, lighting, music, and acting in the creation of amusement park attractions. From this, modern imagineering was born*. The imagineering approach shares a lot with film production. It starts with a background story and scripting, then progresses to design sketches and revisions of same, then to model-making and more revisions, followed by prototyping and testing, and lastly to actual construction and staging for the public. We of limited time, budget, and resources are forced to reduce this formula to its least common denominator. Our process might include the following steps: - Imagine a theme, setting, or story-line to unify the project. Develop a 'script' that embodies the concept. - Get a mental picture of how this might be presented in the space you have to work with. Make sketches or models of your ideas, and decide on a visual style to unify them. Make decisions in advance regarding possible safety issues relating to your attraction space. - Decide upon the actual props and actors you will include to carry out the theme of your attraction, and decide what role each will play in the finished production. - With a combination of props, actors and setting decided upon, consider the role of lighting and sound, and movement. Begin development of any technical systems you will need to make these work for you. - Carry out tests of your systems, and make sure they are capable of safely and reliably doing what you want them to before you assemble the final versions to go into your setting. This is the time for the inevitable revisions, and perhaps even a few compromises. - Build the attraction, and execute a dry-run or 'dress rehearsal', and correct any problems that develop. - Open the attraction to the public. It may at first be difficult to see how these steps might all apply to a 'simple' front-yard haunt, but they will work for an 'attraction' of any size. In the next installment, I will discuss each item above in detail, and give examples of how they all go together to help you achieve good results. The chapters following that will give you the tools, parts and abilities, a step at a time. Let's bring Halloween to life! ---------------------------------------------------- Footnote: * I say 'modern', because the roots of what Walt called _imagineering_ go way back to the turn of the century, and rest with what must be the very first 'simulator' ride, built in 1901 at the Pan American Exposition in Buffalo, New York. It was the brainchild of a frustrated college student named Frederic W. Thompson, who "designed it one night while hunger kept him awake" (quote from "The Great American Amusement Parks" by Gary Kyriazi.) It was known as 'A Trip to the Moon,' and was a combination of motion platform ride and walk-through attraction, a sort of Jules Verne fantasy. This same young man, after forming an alliance with Elmer 'Skip' Dundee, went on to build the grandfather of the modern theme park, known as Luna Park, on Coney Island in 1902. *********************************************************************** * Safety, Courtesy, Show and Efficiency: * Doug Ferguson * * The Keys To The Kingdom * dwfww@jazz.ucc.uno.edu * *********************************************************************** From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 07:31:23 1996 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 17:00:00 -0800 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Too old to trick or treat? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hey Rob, I like the cell phone story!! One year when Alladin was the hot thing we did a cute haunting ( stop screaming, it only happened once ) so when the older kids showed up we made them work for the candy. If they said TOT then they received the candy, if they were older and would not say it than they had to spin in a circle and say some little song. The funny thing was they did not mind doing that as long as they did not have to say TOT!! Go Figure??? Kathy the new kid on the crypt mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 07:37:53 1996 From: Ann E Durham Subject: Fangs and Farewell To: halloween-l@netcom.com (halloween) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 10:27:39 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com I'm a happy lurker who must depart for awhile. I will be back by mid-summer, and I will strive to keep Halloween in my heart and hallow it 365 days a year. [Once a friend brought some people over in late October to borrow some costumes. The friend looked around in awe, and said "Wow, you must have spent *hours* decorating for your party." The ultimate compliment--I hadn't started yet!] Will leave with fangful thoughts. The problem of making fake fangs (my chosen medium is fingernail acrylic) is that it's awkward and unwise to work inside your own mouth. It's best to have a positive cast of your teeth. My method: Get a small block of Fimo or Sculpy clay, and bite into it. Remove carefully and bake according to instructions. This is your negative mold. For the positive casting, I use hot glue! Squeeze it in gently to avoid air bubbles. Let it set and pop it out. You can then model your fake fangs on the positive mold. It's slightly flexible, so it's easy to pop the fangs off. I'll be haunting you. --Ann From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 07:47:42 1996 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 96 09:40:53 CST To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: robdoc@startribune.com (Robyn Dochterman) Subject: Solenoid Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Roy was nice enough to explain that: >A solenoid is a device that moves in a linear direction >(ie. in & out). It is actually an electromagnet around a piece of iron. ...In short, you must use DC power for >electromagnets. Thanks, Roy. --Robyn Robyn Dochterman Interactive editor Star Tribune Online Robdoc@startribune.com http://www.startribune.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 07:50:36 1996 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 10:36:15 From: JBKadel@gnn.com (Jim Kadel) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Ooze Goo - Home Made Polymer Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com I learned how to make some home made amorphous "goo" that will ooze slowly under gravity. It may provide some "creative Halloween" uses. The stuff is fairly innocuous so you can use ordinary kitchen utensils and clean up with soap and water. All you need are these items: 1) White (Elmer's type) Glue 2) Borax (as in 20 Mule Team) 3) Food Coloring The following is for a small quanity (golf ball size) to check it out: ================================================================ A) In a cup mix one full teaspoon of Borax in 1/4 cup of warm water (note Borax might not totally dissolve - that's OK) B) In another cup measure two full tablespoons of Elmer's Glue and add one full tablespoon of water. Add a drop or two of your favorite food coloring and mix well to blend. C) Take a teaspoon of the Borax solution drop into the cup of colored glue and mix rapidly with the spoon. If any of the glue remains "unmorphed" (you'll know what's meant, as you perform this step), add one more teaspoon of the Borax solution. Manually pull out the "yucky goo", form it in a ball, and wash it off quickly under the tap. Place it on a piece of aluminum foil to air dry for 10 mins or so. When dry it feels like a piece of rubber, then check out its properties. Store in a closed container like a plastic zip lock bag, since it will dry out if left in open air for days. I'd appreciate hearing of your Halloween use ideas. I have one, but I'll mention it later as this post is getting long. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Jim Kadel (JBKadel@gnn.com) If it moves and it shouldn't - use duct tape If it doesn't move and it should - reanimate xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 08:04:59 1996 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 96 09:52:31 CST To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: robdoc@startribune.com (Robyn Dochterman) Subject: Re: Is there a Techno-Elite? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Doug, Roy, Bill, Harry... You guys are great! It is amazing what you can find out if you ask! Thanks. --Robyn Robyn Dochterman Interactive editor Star Tribune Online Robdoc@startribune.com http://www.startribune.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 08:09:24 1996 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 10:55:31 From: JBKadel@gnn.com (Jim Kadel) To: DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu, halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: PROMO SIGNS Was Contributors vs. lurkers, Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com >Regarding the lasers.. snip snip... They also pose the risk >of accidentally pointing the beam at the retina of the eye, >which can be harmful. > >Be careful... ;-) > >-Doug Yes and I'm curious about this. Every visable laser I've seen has warnings about the eyes, associated with it. I was thinking that for Harry's spinning mirror effect, one could use the cheaper line of those "pen pointer" lasers (low end about $30.), but even that has "eye" warning labels. So can it be done as Harry described (laser light moving in generated fog, that people walk thru) and still be safe for the eyes? Perhaps the answer maybe "yes" if the laser light keeps moving, so that the eyes could not focus on any continuous beam?? Any Laser light experts around? xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Jim Kadel (JBKadel@gnn.com) If it moves and it shouldn't - use duct tape If it doesn't move and it should - reanimate xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 08:17:12 1996 From: milwiron@btprod.com Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 10:04:14 -0600 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: My Haunted Porch(LONG!) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 04:18 PM 11/11/96 -0800, you wrote: >Denny, > It sounds great to me!! I don't think it matters if you use big $ >things or WalMart specials, all that counts are the screams. And from the >sound of things you get a 4* scream score!!!... Hi Kathy and all, I'm sorry to say I have no idea what you're talking about. Stu was having trouble unsubscribing himself and as I tried to help I accidently unsubscribed myself for a day (and some people have the nerve to call me a techie!). I believe I also accidently launched 7 missiles into the heart of Moscow in the process. oops. Denny From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 08:20:43 1996 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 16:10:39 GMT From: "SHUNT.EMAIL.VILL.EDU" To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: X-Files Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Yes, Kathy, you caught the show on a dull night! I found the most recent episode to be a "yawner". But the episode before it dealt with past lives and reincarnation. The second episode of the new season (sorry, I don't know the titles of the individual shows) dealt with inbreeding in a small, "all-American" town. I was horrified as I watched it (very gory), but later reflected that it was perhaps the most macabre, suspenseful thing I've ever seen on television. Hang in there!!! There are some spectacular episodes!!! Sue H. From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 08:21:58 1996 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 11:07:35 -0500 From: ROGER ALEXANDER To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: list get-togethers Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Jeez, sounds like everybody is having a get-together! And here I am in Southern Indiana away from most of you. Guess us Hoosiers are just gonna have to have our own! How bout it Mr. Scary? Think we can set something up sometime? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Roger Alexander Phone: 812-854-4748 Naval Surface Warfare Center Fax: 812-854-3508 Bldg 64 Code 111RA Crane, IN 47522 INTERNET: rda413@smtp.nwscc.sea06.navy.mil Supporting the Fleet through Supply! From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 08:34:34 1996 From: "Jim Baggett" To: Subject: Is it real or is it...... Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 11:22:31 -0500 Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com I just had to share this one with you all. Not everyone would appreciate it. Part of our haunted woods was a graveyard with just two graves monded up and one open and empty. During the party we had a blacklight and dry ice fog in it, with a "Your Name Here" tombstone. We thought we had informed all our neighbors about the party and what we were doing in the woods. Well it seems as though we missed the lady next door. (She wasn't home) Yesterday when my son was letting the dog out he saw one of the Security Gaurds walking around in the woods. He went out to see what was going on. The Gaurd ask him if he had seen anyone strange around lately, because there are some graves back there. My son told him they were just part of the props set up for the party. The gaurd then told him that the neighbor was upset because she saw the graves in the woods behind her house and he was sure she would be relieved to know what they were. And here I thought we were going to have to wait till next year to scare anyone else. And we weren't even trying. Charmaine From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 08:35:40 1996 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 11:20:52 -0500 From: ROGER ALEXANDER To: JeanniSkip@aol.com, halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Veteran's Day -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com >>> 11/12/96 6:38 pm >>> John wrote: << >Thanks Denny. It's an honor to serve. >AZAN Jeffries, USS ENTERPRISE (CVN-65) to which, William replied: << Ah! You're the guy they named that access tube after on board the ship! ;-) -=- William Rompala Rompala Consulting>> Hey guys, I'm no techie...but isn't that the famous Jeffries Tube you're talking about???? Jeanni (Trekkie...not Techie) <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Yah, and it's named after Frank Jeffries, the prop man on the set. Roger (MAJOR Trekker fanatic!) Live long and prosper! From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 08:37:56 1996 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 09:19:04 -0700 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: MAJOR APOLOGIES!!! -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com I don't think the rest of us had any idea how bad that message was until we saw it. Real sorry you were a target. From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 08:37:56 1996 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 09:21:43 -0700 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Lights -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Target or WalMart had a package of plastic stakes that have holders for C7/C9 and midget lights for a couple a bucks for 8-12. Is that what you saw, Bill, or was it something with its own sockets? From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 09:02:38 1996 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 11:32:25 -0500 From: ROGER ALEXANDER To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: The new tech-tips email Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com I forget who, but it was discussed about a series of tips, tricks, and how-to emails for beginners, and then advancing upwards. Could I suggest something? That this series of emails have a standard subject/title each time? Or the same one? Or a standard header in the message? The reason I suggest this is my email system has the capability of sorting incoming mail via certain rules that you set up. A standard subject line or content title would allow this. I'm sure there are other on this list with the same capability, plus for those that don't they can quickly find these particular message via the standard/same subject line. Just a suggestion. :) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Roger Alexander Phone: 812-854-4748 Naval Surface Warfare Center Fax: 812-854-3508 Bldg 64 Code 111RA Crane, IN 47522 INTERNET: rda413@smtp.nwscc.sea06.navy.mil Supporting the Fleet through Supply! From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 09:07:28 1996 From: "Jim Baggett" To: Subject: Re: X-Files Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 11:41:23 -0500 Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Kathy, They have started off this season with some stories that are just wierd. But from the previews for next weeks show it looks like they are returning to what it was before. I hope so anyway. I've watched it from the beginning and must say that this season really hasn't been anywhere near as good as previous seasons. (Or the comic) You really should watch a few more shows before forming an opinion. Charmaine > OK!! > After hearing everyone in the world say " You don't watch the Xfiles" I > decided to watch it. Sorry, but it did nothing for me. Great Gross out > effect with taking his face off, but the story line was really dull. Is > this their best or did I just hit them on a bad night?? > Kathy > the new kid on the crypt > mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 09:14:04 1996 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 09:50:35 -0700 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: X-Files, Cemeteries Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com The Files ain't what they used to be... Now that I am in calmer mode (yeah, right). The pronunciation is SOW (as in female pig) and win as in win the lottery (we all can dream). Source: Scots Gaelic class. I'm finishing up my roll of film from West Laurel Hill Cemetery today at a baby shower (ought be real interesting for the photo lab people) and will try to post one or two of the good ones. For you MD/DC/VA folks, there's a cemetery at--I think--Brown's Bridge Road and Route 216 (Scaggsville Road) with a nice arch over the entrance. Also, there's one at Harpers Ferry (not the one at the top of the hill; we hiked down through the woods from a friend's house in Bolivar, and came out near the entrance of an old cemetery nearer one of the rivers). From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 09:26:03 1996 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 10:05:29 -0700 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: X-Files -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Sorry guys. Mulder pronounced one of the pagan holidays as SAM-HAYNE and I was in a mood. Samhain is the old Celtic holiday (new years) that we call Halloween (which is a contraction of the Christian All Hallow's Even, which you all know). He got Lammas (Lughnasadh [sp?]) right, but did anyone catch what he was calling Beltane and Imbolc? Actual pagan folks may want to jump in here. From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 09:31:07 1996 From: Scott Axworthy Subject: Re: Fangs and Farewell To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 09:15:01 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Ann: Ann E Durham writes: > > I'm a happy lurker who must depart for awhile. I will be back by > mid-summer, and I will strive to keep Halloween in my heart and hallow it > 365 days a year. [Once a friend brought some people over in late October > to borrow some costumes. The friend looked around in awe, and said "Wow, > you must have spent *hours* decorating for your party." The ultimate > compliment--I hadn't started yet!] > > Will leave with fangful thoughts. The problem of making fake fangs (my > chosen medium is fingernail acrylic) is that it's awkward and unwise to > work inside your own mouth. It's best to have a positive cast of your > teeth. My method: Get a small block of Fimo or Sculpy clay, and bite > into it. Remove carefully and bake according to instructions. This is Unfortunately Fimo and Sculpy must have something nasty in them. I recall something from the directions that indicated thorough hand washing after use or some specific statement about not touching your mouth with your hands. The warning may have been in one of the scuply/fimo books that can be found where these products are sold. I would suggest sticking with alginate/plaster like the dentist's use. If you can find a dental supply place in your area that will sell to the public, which they don't all do, you can get the alginate and the little plastic trays that the alginate goes in as you shove it in your mouth. Be sure to use the hard varieties of plaster, such as hydrostone, for the casting. -Scott -- Scott Axworthy Phone: 206-649-7668 Cascade Design Automation Fax: 206-649-7600 scott@cdac.com http://www.cdac.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 09:39:08 1996 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 09:27:07 -0800 From: Bob Andrews To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Veteran's Day -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com ROGER ALEXANDER wrote: > <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > > Yah, and it's named after Frank Jeffries, the prop man on the set. > > Roger (MAJOR Trekker fanatic!) Live long and prosper! That's Matt Jeffries the art director. Jimmy Rugg was the prop master. I got their autographs. -- Bob Andrews bandrews@inreach.com http://www.anaserve.com/~BoBandrews From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 10:04:37 1996 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 10:48:05 -0700 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: X-Files -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com I hate being referred to as a member of a New England basketball team (it is basketball, isn't it?). From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 10:07:57 1996 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 10:47:03 -0700 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Glenwood Cemetery Pic Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com I thought about that pic (statue of a 2-year-old child in cemetery) this morning, and was going to bring it in to scan, and then I forgot. Remind me about this will you if I don't get it posted by the end of the week? Really...remind me... From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 10:09:04 1996 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 10:51:24 -0700 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Pennsylvania -Reply -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com You know, they have a haunted train ride in the Hershey area around Halloween. If I can find my flier... From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 10:13:34 1996 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 10:56:17 -0700 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Hmmm Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Did I see something about Jim Rugg and Matt Jeffries? You left out Irving Feinberg! From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 10:18:53 1996 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 96 13:05:40 EST To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Bill Lewis Subject: Re: Lights and Lighting Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 09:21 AM 11/13/96 -0700, you wrote: >Target or WalMart had a package of plastic >stakes that have holders for C7/C9 and midget >lights for a couple a bucks for 8-12. Is that what >you saw, Bill, or was it something with its own >sockets? Nope, The Stake lights I saw were regular lamp base socket that could take an outdoor floodlight bulb, and a fairly long (from the picture) cord. More info on this after I get over to the local True Value and buy a couple. Also, several years ago I bought a 3 pack of spring clamp work lights (w/ metal reflector) from Price Club for $10. Those are useful too. but often the spring clamp is inadequate, and needs to be tied secure. I have also built one Coffee can light (with intentions of building more). I recently began writing a detailed "how-to" to build them, but didn't have time to finish. When I saw these Stake light fixtures being advertised I thought I'd wait until I got one or two, and then make it a little more inclusive. The nice thing about the CCL's is that you can "color " them with Gels, or colored celophane (depending on bulb wattage, and type). Bill Lewis NSWC Carderock Division Code 6060 (301) 227-2742 lewisw@oasys.dt.navy.mil lewisb@erols.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 10:36:40 1996 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 10:26:16 -0800 From: Bob Andrews To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Hmmm Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Lauren Jones wrote: > > Did I see something about Jim Rugg and Matt > Jeffries? You left out Irving Feinberg! Oops! Jimmy Rugg was the mechanical effects guy! Feinburg was the prop guy. I remove my pointy ears and hang my head in shame. -- Bob Andrews bandrews@inreach.com http://www.anaserve.com/~BoBandrews From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 10:58:20 1996 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 10:41:14 -0800 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Greg Hope Subject: Re: Cemetary gate Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com >On another topic, the IAAPA amusement park provider convention meets >here at the Earnest Morial Convention Center (the big complex left >where the 1984 World's Fair was held, next to the Mississippi River) >on the 22nd and 23rd of this month. I have been told that if you are >a member of the American Coaster Enthusiasts (ACE), you will be allowed >in for FREE. Normally, admission is about $35.00. This will include >active rides, simulators, and beaucoups exhibits and take-home freebies. >Doubtless there will be a few walkthrough and dark ride manufacturers/ >design firms represented. I will be there, and will provide a report, >if all goes well. Doug, I'll be VERY interested in what you learn from your visit. I just received membership info from IAAPA and am figuring out how to explain the dues to my wife. Some how, some way, I'll come up with a way to return the favor for any info you can share with me. I wish I could attend, but it's just not in the budget right now. Greg in Vista T (619) 945-4424 F (619) 726-2804 E ghope@mailhost.csusm.edu From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 11:07:27 1996 From: Davis_Karen To: "'halloween-l@netcom.com'" Subject: RE: X-Files Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 13:49:56 -0500 Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com ..they're pronouncing it like its spelled 'samhain'...what's the correct pronunciation?... >---------- >From: Lauren Jones[SMTP:ljones@aphis.usda.gov] >Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 1996 11:21 AM >To: halloween-l@netcom.com >Subject: X-Files > >Does anyone watch X-Files? If I hear one more >person say SAM-HAYNE, I'm going to scream. > From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 11:12:40 1996 From: milwiron@btprod.com Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 12:53:14 -0600 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Solenoid Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 09:40 AM 11/13/96 CST, you wrote: >Roy was nice enough to explain that: > >>A solenoid is a device that moves in a linear direction >>(ie. in & out). It is actually an electromagnet around a piece of iron. >...In short, you must use DC power for >>electromagnets. >Thanks, Roy. >--Robyn > The greatest number (better than 50%) of solenoids commercially available are AC. DC solenoids, if lightly loaded, often have a "sticking" problem because of the DC current temporarily magnetizing the plunger. AC or DC are both fairly easy to find. AC electromagnets are available for lifting and holding applications but DC electromagnets are much more common. Solenoid valves or- air and fluid valves actuated by a solenoid are easily found in both AC or DC depending on the intended application. The bottom line is, you can find one of the above devices in just about any configuration and voltage you need. Please notice I qualified everything above because each facet of industry has its' own needs and requirements. The auto industry will use DC solenoid valves in cars while an automated factory assembly line will usually use AC solenoid valves to control air lines unless a rectified power source is readily available to supply DC. Denny From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 11:17:10 1996 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 20:50:29 -0800 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: X-Files Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com OK!! I will watch it again and see if it gets any better. Several of you wrote and told me that it has been better in the past. So I will keep watching for a while and see if it gets better. Kathy mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 11:36:19 1996 From: DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 13:23:14 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: PROMO SIGNS Was Contributors vs. lurkers, To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com >Any Laser light experts around? I'm no expert, but I do have a laser, and I know the reason for the warning labels. Even the small 4-to-8 milliwatt diode lasers that have become so affordable pose a slight risk of 'sunburning' the retina if pointed directly into the eye for a sufficient time. As with blacklight, one should be careful how it is used when presented to the public. Be sure that the laser beam is never reflected such that it points into the public area of your Haunt, and you will have absolute safety. Place the laser assembly and any mirror assemblies out of reach of guests, too. If these lasers were truly dangerous under normal use, the pointers would not be available to the public. The convergence of the beams of these little lasers is not tight enough to pose a real safety threat, except from deliberate abuse. The same may be said, of course, for any appliance from a hairdryer to a hot-plate. -Doug *********************************************************************** * Safety, Courtesy, Show and Efficiency: * Doug Ferguson * * The Keys To The Kingdom * dwfww@jazz.ucc.uno.edu * *********************************************************************** From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 11:38:40 1996 From: Steve_Kirkman_at_BI-USA@astec.com Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 11:12:45 -0800 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re[2]: PROMO SIGNS Was Contributors vs. lurkers, Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Kathy, How about those nifty laser pointers used for presentations? Here in So. Cal. they are running around $20 - $30. They run on AA batteries and are about the size of a penlight. Just a thought. Steve Mufasa1023@aol.com ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: PROMO SIGNS Was Contributors vs. lurkers, Author: halloween-l@netcom.com at internet Date: 11/12/96 7:49 PM Kathy, some other sources for laser beams might be old laserdisc players or CD players that can no longer run. For the Cd player, take it out of the casing, and figure out how to keep the door closed, cutting a hole in it or something to make it think the door is still closed :) Clever idea of finding the old scanners.... For mirror fun, cement a small mirror to the shaft oif a tape recorder motor. if it's angled a tiny bit, aim the laser right at it, and you get a laser cone. Down a hallway with a fog machine, you have your guests travelling into a vortex of light (saw this used once years back, thought it was a neat effect)... Harry [ Sent From: Dreamscape Systems - dreamsys.com ] [ Location: Van Nuys, CA - (818) 781-7529 ] From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 11:39:15 1996 From: DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 13:30:43 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: The new tech-tips email To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com >Could I suggest something? That this series of emails have a standard subject >/title each time? I will, beginning with part 2, use the standard title sequence: How-to, part # Where # is a number from 2 to infinity. ;-) The only thing we need to do to make sure the thread continues is to make sure that all comments, additions and criticisms have RE: How-to, part # as their subject line. If you look for these, Roger, you should get them just fine. -Doug *********************************************************************** * Safety, Courtesy, Show and Efficiency: * Doug Ferguson * * The Keys To The Kingdom * dwfww@jazz.ucc.uno.edu * *********************************************************************** From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 11:42:58 1996 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 14:36:18 +0000 From: "Sherri (Ozzy)" To: Halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Gross Grub Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com I just saw a show that was talking about a cookbook called Gross Grub by Cheryl Porter - the dish they made was called hairball salad! Looked kinda interesting. -- Sherri(Ozzy) ~ http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/7997/ c-n-s.ozzy@Worldnet.att.net ~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~* "Demons are a Gouls Best Friend" ~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~*~^~* From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 11:56:58 1996 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 14:54:46 -0800 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Moon Subject: Re: Ooze Goo - Home Made Polymer Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 10:36 AM 11/13/96, you wrote: >I learned how to make some home made amorphous "goo" that >will ooze slowly under gravity. It may provide some "creative >Halloween" uses. The stuff is fairly innocuous so you can use >ordinary kitchen utensils and clean up with soap and water. > >All you need are these items: >1) White (Elmer's type) Glue >2) Borax (as in 20 Mule Team) >3) Food Coloring > >The following is for a small quanity (golf ball size) >to check it out: >================================================================ >A) In a cup mix one full teaspoon of Borax in 1/4 cup of warm >water (note Borax might not totally dissolve - that's OK) > >B) In another cup measure two full tablespoons of Elmer's Glue >and add one full tablespoon of water. Add a drop or two of >your favorite food coloring and mix well to blend. > >C) Take a teaspoon of the Borax solution drop into the cup of >colored glue and mix rapidly with the spoon. If any of the glue >remains "unmorphed" (you'll know what's meant, as you perform >this step), add one more teaspoon of the Borax solution. > >Manually pull out the "yucky goo", form it in a ball, and wash >it off quickly under the tap. Place it on a piece of aluminum >foil to air dry for 10 mins or so. When dry it feels like a >piece of rubber, then check out its properties. Store in a >closed container like a plastic zip lock bag, since it will dry >out if left in open air for days. > >I'd appreciate hearing of your Halloween use ideas. I have one, >but I'll mention it later as this post is getting long. > >xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >Jim Kadel (JBKadel@gnn.com) >If it moves and it shouldn't - use duct tape >If it doesn't move and it should - reanimate >xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > I posted this EXACT recipea earlier in the halloween year. 0=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-0 o Moon o | Fiberopt@pipeline.com | o -Happy Halloween- o | | o "From o to Witch in 2.1 Secconds" o | "Wicca, Its not a new wave of lawn junk" | 0=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-0 From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 11:59:35 1996 From: ALLAN DAVID Date: Wed, 13 Nov 96 14:52:12 -0500 Subject: RE: Lasers was Re[2]: PROMO SIGNS Was Contributors vs. lurkers, To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com $20-30! Wow! The cheapest I've seen is $40. Where can I buy (mail order) one for $20? Thanks. David dallan@dow.com - ---------- From: Steve_Kirkman_at_BI-USA@astec.com[SMTP:Steve_Kirkman_at_BI-USA@astec.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 1996 2:12 PM To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re[2]: PROMO SIGNS Was Contributors vs. lurkers, Kathy, How about those nifty laser pointers used for presentations? Here in So. Cal. they are running around $20 - $30. They run on AA batteries and are about the size of a penlight. Just a thought. Steve Mufasa1023@aol.com [stuff deleted] From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 12:16:03 1996 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 14:03:07 -0800 From: The Proctors To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: The imagineering how-to, part 1 Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu wrote: > > "It takes each and every one of us to make > our ideas real. It seldom comes easy. Our > process works because as individuals, we > approach the idea differently, but together, > we share a single vision." > > -from _Disney Imagineering_ > > ------------------------------ > > H A L L O W E E N : > > J U S T I M A G I N E ! > > Part 1: Introduction > {snippety-snip} Wow, Doug, this sounds like it'll be simple enough even for me!! karen p cproctor@flash.net From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 12:34:50 1996 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 15:22:39 -0500 (EST) From: Domina To: halloween Subject: Re: Fangs and Farewell Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com > Will leave with fangful thoughts. The problem of making fake fangs (my > chosen medium is fingernail acrylic) is that it's awkward and unwise to > work inside your own mouth. It's best to have a positive cast of your > teeth. My method: Get a small block of Fimo or Sculpy clay, and bite > into it. Remove carefully and bake according to instructions. This is > your negative mold. For the positive casting, I use hot glue! Squeeze it > in gently to avoid air bubbles. Let it set and pop it out. You can then > model your fake fangs on the positive mold. It's slightly flexible, so > it's easy to pop the fangs off. My boyfriend and I just made fangs but we used dental equipment...while it's slightly expensive, it's relatively easy to do..if anyone wants tips or anything about it, let me know... domina | / | \ The full moon, like a spider, lets down her light that / / | \ \ covers the earth, as with a web, and there we mortals \ \_(*)_/ / helplessly struggle, we flies of fate, until the \_(~:~)_/ night devours each one of us.... /-(:)-\ The masquerade is never over... @}>--'--,--- / / * \ \ Listowner: Mortuary Mailing List \ \ / / A Murder of Ravens Mailing List \ / Domina http://pegasus.cc.ucf.edu/~wmg47005/ From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 12:51:13 1996 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 96 15:35:50 EST To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Bill Lewis Subject: Re: Pennsylvania -Reply -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 10:51 AM 11/13/96 -0700, you wrote: >You know, they have a haunted train ride in the >Hershey area around Halloween. If I can find >my flier... Oh yea, if you have a flier, I'd like to see that. Next year we might just have to plan on a quick trip up there and take Lucille along (M-in-L). She might find it fun. BTW I get along just fine with my M-in-L. Bill Lewis NSWC Carderock Division Code 6060 (301) 227-2742 lewisw@oasys.dt.navy.mil lewisb@erols.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 12:52:28 1996 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 15:32:07 -0500 From: ROGER ALEXANDER To: bandrews@inreach.com, halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Veteran's Day -Reply -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com >>> Bob Andrews 11/13/96 12:27 pm >>> ROGER ALEXANDER wrote: > <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > > Yah, and it's named after Frank Jeffries, the prop man on the set. > > Roger (MAJOR Trekker fanatic!) Live long and prosper! That's Matt Jeffries the art director. Jimmy Rugg was the prop master. I got their autographs. -- Bob Andrews bandrews@inreach.com http://www.anaserve.com/~BoBandrews <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<, *sigh* You're right! Remembered that right after I sent it. And I call myself a Trekker!! :P --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Roger Alexander Phone: 812-854-4748 Naval Surface Warfare Center Fax: 812-854-3508 Bldg 64 Code 111RA Crane, IN 47522 INTERNET: rda413@smtp.nwscc.sea06.navy.mil Supporting the Fleet through Supply! From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 12:52:51 1996 From: KBarn37781@aol.com Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 15:38:00 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: list get-togethers Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com In a message dated 96-11-13 11:40:38 EST, you write: << Jeez, sounds like everybody is having a get-together! And here I am in Southern Indiana away from most of you. Guess us Hoosiers are just gonna have to have our own! How bout it Mr. Scary? Think we can set something up sometime? >> Where in southern Indiana are you. I am from Northern Kentucky. We might be pretty close and there are a few on the list from surrounding states that are talking about a get together int he spring. Also, is there anyone on the list that is interested in ghost, paranormal activities? If so I would love to email you about somethings. Let me know. Thanks. Karen From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 12:57:26 1996 From: Steve_Kirkman_at_BI-USA@astec.com Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 11:54:42 -0800 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re[2]: Is there a Techno-Elite? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Robyn, I get mine surplus for between $5 and $25 from All Electronics in L.A. I built a simple(?) timing circuit that will drive the motor forward and reverse with variable speed. The best part is it runs on low voltage (6 - 12 volts) thereby reducing electrical hazards outdoors. Steve Mufasa1023@aol.com ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Is there a Techno-Elite? Author: halloween-l@netcom.com at internet Date: 11/13/96 3:46 AM At 07:38 PM 11/12/96 -0700, you wrote: > >Well Robyn, to answer some questions, a stepper motor is one you can >start and stop at certain positions. useful for mouth and leg movements >on a robotic or an effect. Let me add that stepper motors require computer control. They ain't gonna be cheap either. Bill Lewis NSWC Carderock Division Code 6060 (301) 227-2742 lewisw@oasys.dt.navy.mil lewisb@erols.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 13:01:04 1996 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 12:58:24 -0800 From: Bob Andrews To: ROGER ALEXANDER Subject: Re: Veteran's Day -Reply -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com ROGER ALEXANDER wrote: > *sigh* You're right! Remembered that right after I sent it. And I call myself a Trekker!! :P I was wrong too! Lauren showed me up. Twenty years ago I could name all 79 episodes and who wrote and directed them. Today I still can, but I have a life too. ;-) -- Bob Andrews bandrews@inreach.com http://www.anaserve.com/~BoBandrews From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 13:15:04 1996 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: X-Files From: rodney3@juno.com (Rodney G Grantham) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 16:01:57 EST Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com I would agree with macabre on the 2nd show. It perpetuated Southern stereotypes. I found it disgusting. It was significant in that like the more recent satanic show, the culprits evaded capture. Sculley and Mulder are losing it. I'd forgotten the reincarnation one, it was passable. Though again, the good guys failed to stop the bad guys. Is there a pattern here? Remember when they used to be trying to find out about aliens and the smoking man, etc.? Remember the tipster dying and writing a msg in blood? Do you think the producer does? Rodney rodney3@juno.com http://www.geocities.com/NapaValley/2049 On Wed, 13 Nov 1996 16:10:39 GMT "SHUNT.EMAIL.VILL.EDU" writes: > >Yes, Kathy, you caught the show on a dull night! I found the most >recent episode to be a "yawner". But the episode before it dealt with past >lives and reincarnation. The second episode of the new season (sorry, I don't >know the titles of the individual shows) dealt with inbreeding in a small, >"all-American" town. I was horrified as I watched it (very gory), but >later reflected that it was perhaps the most macabre, suspenseful thing I've >ever seen on television. From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 13:17:09 1996 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 13:13:39 -0800 From: Bob Andrews To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Is there a Techno-Elite? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Steve_Kirkman_at_BI-USA@astec.com wrote: > > Robyn, > I get mine surplus for between $5 and $25 from All Electronics in > L.A. I built a simple(?) timing circuit that will drive the motor > forward and reverse with variable speed. The best part is it runs on > low voltage (6 - 12 volts) thereby reducing electrical hazards > outdoors. > > Steve > Mufasa1023@aol.com > Steve, I'd like to hear more about that timing circuit! I wrote an assembly language to run one on an old Atari 800 6502 computer. That computer has been wormfood for more than a decade. Do you have a schematic? -- Bob Andrews bandrews@inreach.com http://www.anaserve.com/~BoBandrews From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 13:54:41 1996 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 96 13:48:18 PST From: "Sparks, Doug" To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re[2]: Lasers was Re[2]: PROMO SIGNS Was Contributors vs. lu Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Tiger Software Direct has them. Theoretically (because I don't know the repercussions) the 5mW version can easily shut off a street lamp if aimed properly at the light sensor. The one I borrowed from a colleague was $29.95 and worked great for several different uses. Doug Sparks dsparks@ligand.com ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: RE: Lasers was Re[2]: PROMO SIGNS Was Contributors vs. lurke Author: halloween-l@netcom.com at gateway Date: 11/13/96 2:52 PM $20-30! Wow! The cheapest I've seen is $40. Where can I buy (mail order) one for $20? Thanks. David dallan@dow.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 14:08:17 1996 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 96 13:52:23 PST From: "Sparks, Doug" To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re[2]: Fangs and Farewell Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Sure, I would like some more info. I already have the alginate, and surely I can scrounge up a tray somewhere. What else might I need? Doug Sparks dsparks@ligand.com ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Fangs and Farewell Author: halloween-l@netcom.com at gateway Date: 11/13/96 12:57 PM My boyfriend and I just made fangs but we used dental equipment...while it's slightly expensive, it's relatively easy to do..if anyone wants tips or anything about it, let me know... domina From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 14:08:42 1996 From: Steve_Kirkman_at_BI-USA@astec.com Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 14:00:29 -0800 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re[2]: Lasers was Re[2]: PROMO SIGNS Was Contributors vs. lu Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hi Dave, There is one in the current Global Computer Supplies catalog for $29.00. I think I have seen them cheaper. I will check some catalogs at home also. You can reach Global at 1-800-845-6225 or on the web at http://www.globalcomputer.com. The stock number is GFC92839 (silver) or GFC92097 (black). The catalog claims 3hrs on 2AAA alkaline batteries. Hope this helps. Steve Mufasa1023@aol.com ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: RE: Lasers was Re[2]: PROMO SIGNS Was Contributors vs. lurke Author: halloween-l@netcom.com at internet Date: 11/13/96 12:44 PM $20-30! Wow! The cheapest I've seen is $40. Where can I buy (mail order) one for $20? Thanks. David dallan@dow.com - ---------- From: Steve_Kirkman_at_BI-USA@astec.com[SMTP:Steve_Kirkman_at_BI-USA@astec.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 1996 2:12 PM To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re[2]: PROMO SIGNS Was Contributors vs. lurkers, Kathy, How about those nifty laser pointers used for presentations? Here in So. Cal. they are running around $20 - $30. They run on AA batteries and are about the size of a penlight. Just a thought. Steve Mufasa1023@aol.com [stuff deleted] From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 14:29:00 1996 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 17:35:14 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: "John P. Jeffries" Subject: Re: list get-togethers Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 03:38 PM 11/13/96 -0500, you wrote: >In a message dated 96-11-13 11:40:38 EST, you write: > ><< Jeez, sounds like everybody is having a get-together! And here I am in >Southern Indiana away from > most of you. Guess us Hoosiers are just gonna have to have our own! How >bout it Mr. Scary? > Think we can set something up sometime? >> > >Where in southern Indiana are you. I am from Northern Kentucky. We might be >pretty close and there are a few on the list from surrounding states that are >talking about a get together int he spring. > >Also, is there anyone on the list that is interested in ghost, paranormal >activities? If so I would love to email you about somethings. Let me know. > >Thanks. > >Karen > Karen, Roder is about 30 or so miles from here (just south of Bloomington IN). It takes me about an hour to get to Louisville so it sounds like we are all pretty close here. A get together is not a bad idea. Problem would be finding a time and a place that all (or any of us form this area) could meet. Ahh, we still have the list:) John ********************************* * Mr.Scary Productions * * http://www.kiva.net/~mrscary * * E-mail: mrscary@kiva.net * * 1-(812)-824-8935 * * FAX 1-(812)-824-9960 * ********************************* From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 14:42:18 1996 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 16:33:29 -0600 From: James Brandt To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: our halloween,errors and terrors, VERY LONG Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Jimmy wrote: Hello all, As most of you know we are not normally lurkers...but we have not stopped since before halloween...now that i have a few minutes i thought i would give our halloween report... Kelly and i both took a week off of work so we could get everything set up...our first day off work was Sunday...Kelly got the flu (I had to hold her head all day)...Monday, I got the flu (Kelly held my head all day)...Tuesday, we got a few things done in our weakend state (we have three hearses that are a big part of our display...NONE WOULD START! I had to repair and pull hearses all day and night :( )Wednesday, I had to make an unplanned 450 mile round trip to Jackson MS to get two pinyatas...pinytes...pinyahtas...PAPERMACHE THINGS YOU BUST WITH A STICK because noplace in this town of 50sum thousand had any, Kelly pulled an allnighter working on tombstones, I had to bail and get some sleep (age or flu, I dont know which to blame)...Thusday (OH SH** ITS HALLOWEEN ALREADY!?!?) My parents had arrived from Fla. to help and Kelly and I had trimmed our plans so all we needed to finish were...FCG, a tomb, a small casket, and finish our costumes...as my father and I where putting the finishing touches on the tomb, my one yearold son decided to do a half gainer off his stroller face first into the concrete drive, putting his first two top teeth through his lower lip in the prosses...proccess...proses...COURSE OF HIS ACTION. We got back from the ER just in time to tie the skeletons up under the blacklight in the tomb as the first TOTers watched. After all the sh** it was a real dissapointment to us, but after a while we realized the only people who knew what we didnt get done where ourselves. So a list of what we did have... our fence, we posted about it before halloween...(it was great to here someone else made one also...I CONTRIBUTED :) ) of course I was humbled by Bobs...but look out next year ;) a covered bridge which served as the entrance to 'Morty's Mortuary' fifty or so tombstones a flying ghost system...Which was a great hit...ran flawles for a week, of course a young kid tried to ride her halloween night. metal casketts A-was put in the middle of the cematery...cemetery...cemmetary...GRAVEYARD. with a hotplate, can of water, and dryice (next years investments will include fog machines...So be ready Denny) B-was on a platform...open...with blacklight inside...had a freind dressed as a dummy(not hard for this paticular freind)...this always workes for a good scare. c- was put in the back of the flower car, where the flowers normally go, so it sat up at an angle, the top half was removed and a dummy with a Dracula mask on was laying in it. Hearses 1970 hearse-was blocking the driveway...had a dummy driver...in the back was a cardboard coffin with a skeleton sitting up inside and a skull on the lower part...many spider webs and blacklit.(rear and driverside curtains open) 1968 hearse-had a dummy driver, and a skeleton comeing from the back with his arms wrapped around the drivers neck...also many webs and blacklit. 1964 flowercar-dummy driver with many webs and blacklit...(already mentioned the back) Tomb built a small tomb 5'tall,4'wide, and 6'long from 1x2's, plastic and styrofoam. Inside we put the bride and groom skeletons, the crypt ceeper doing the service, a few candleabra's, blacklight and plenty of webs. (everyone realy enjoyed this...but the little kids kept trying to crawl in, I guess because the door was just their size :) ) plus many little store bought lights, figures, and other things throughout the yard. We didnt have as many TOTers this year, or any news coverage due to a riot in a neighboring town the night before halloween...also we put out cans for Saint Judes hospital this year but only collected about $3.00...and thats with 3 or 4 hundred TOTers. :( There where many good points though... we put up a crashed witch the day it was posted...by halloween there were at least four more in town. we found another house with a hearse and graveyard in the front yard...havent went to meet them yet, but they look like our kind of folks ;) the kids realy enjoyed the papermache things (probably not as much as me...I realy enjoy watching kids swing at air ;) ) the local Saint Judes asked if we would do a full haunted house for them next year!!!!!:) and of course all the kids and parents who enjoyed themselves and thanked us for all our effort.:):):) sorry this has turned into a short story...but we saved up a lot of bandwidth in the last couple weeks ;) -- "Morty's Mortuary, you stab 'em, we slab 'em" ____________________________ _|_ _ / ___/~~~ /------|------\ | ___|___ _|_/_______________|______|____\__\__|________,_ / R.I.P.\ \ _________________|____-_|-______|_____________) | The | <____// \|______|______|_______|_// \)_____> | Brandts | \___/ \___/ |_________| http://www.tecinfo.com/~ofm From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 14:45:48 1996 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 17:34:40 From: JBKadel@gnn.com (Jim Kadel) To: fiberopt@pipeline.com, halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Ooze Goo - Home Made Polymer Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Moon said: ========== >I posted this EXACT recipea earlier in the halloween year. Pardon the duplication. Did you have any Halloween uses posted with it? I thought of placing a green or red colored mass of the stuff into the empty cranium of one of those plastic skulls and let it ooze thru the eye sockets, nose etc. Should "look satisfactory" in an hour or so - oops sorry about that, anti-gore guys/gals {wasn't he reelected though? :} xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Jim Kadel (JBKadel@gnn.com) If it moves and it shouldn't - use duct tape If it doesn't move and it should - reanimate xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 15:28:42 1996 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 15:20:44 -0800 From: Bob Andrews To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: our halloween,errors and terrors, VERY LONG Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com James Brandt wrote: > After all the sh** it was a real dissapointment to us, but after a > while we realized the only people who knew what we didnt get done where > ourselves. So a list of what we did have... This is so true. I bashed my thumb the week before Halloween, and couldn't hold anything for several days. I favored my other hand and developed tendonitis. With the exception of the fence, I had nothing done in time for the trick or treaters. They did like the fence though, and I'll have everything done by next halloween. > > our fence, we posted about it before halloween...(it was great to here > someone else made one also...I CONTRIBUTED :) ) of course I was > humbled by Bobs...but look out next year ;) Thanks. I liked your fence discriptions. I was already commited to 1" x 1"'s, but the PVC sounds very intriguing. Maybe we should have a "fence-off" for next halloween! En garde! You HAVE to post pictures of this thing!!! It sounds way cool! I've got a scanner if you need to convert photos... ;-) -- Bob Andrews bandrews@inreach.com http://www.anaserve.com/~BoBandrews From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 15:49:03 1996 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 18:26:51 -0500 (EST) From: RevCOAL To: Davis_Karen Subject: RE: X-Files Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com On Wed, 13 Nov 1996, Davis_Karen wrote: > ..they're pronouncing it like its spelled 'samhain'...what's the correct > pronunciation?... Sew-In or Sow-In. I've heard both as the 'correct' pronunciation.... Donna ;-) From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 15:58:25 1996 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 18:43:18 -0500 (EST) From: RevCOAL To: Lauren Jones Subject: Re: X-Files -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com On Wed, 13 Nov 1996, Lauren Jones wrote: > I hate being referred to as a member of a New > England basketball team (it is basketball, isn't > it?). Yes, the Boston basketball team is referred to by the mispronounced "Sell-Ticks" (perhaps it's a subliminal suggestion to sell tickets?) Donna ;-) From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 16:06:32 1996 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 14:54:47 -0700 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Hmmm -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com For shame! Shame, shame, shame! >>> Bob Andrews 11/13/96 01:26pm >>> Lauren Jones wrote: > > Did I see something about Jim Rugg and Matt > Jeffries? You left out Irving Feinberg! Oops! Jimmy Rugg was the mechanical effects guy! Feinburg was the prop guy. I remove my pointy ears and hang my head in shame. -- From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 16:07:04 1996 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 14:53:45 -0700 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Lights and Lighting -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Halloween minds think alike. I used to have the people in my parent's offices and then my own saved their coffee cans for me! From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 16:12:16 1996 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 16:51:09 -0700 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Veteran's Day -Reply -Reply -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hey, I couldn't name the directors, etc., but I could tell you how many strings were on a Vulcan lyre! >>> Bob Andrews 11/13/96 03:58pm >>> ROGER ALEXANDER wrote: > *sigh* You're right! Remembered that right after I sent it. And I call myself a Trekker!! :P I was wrong too! Lauren showed me up. Twenty years ago I could name all 79 episodes and who wrote and directed them. Today I still can, but I have a life too. ;-) -- Bob Andrews bandrews@inreach.com http://www.anaserve.com/~BoBandrews From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 16:13:45 1996 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 01:49:16 -0800 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: PROMO SIGNS Was Contributors vs. lurkers, Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Doug, Speaking of hair dryers!! When anyone makes the icechest fan smoke thingie, don't leave the fan sitting off with the dry ice. The reason being that the fan freezes up and you have to use your daughters hairdryer to defrost it!! Been There done that!! Kathy the new kid on the crypt mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 16:37:30 1996 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 16:30:32 -0800 From: Bob Andrews To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Veteran's Day -Reply -Reply -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Lauren Jones wrote: > > Hey, I couldn't name the directors, etc., but I > could tell you how many strings were on a > Vulcan lyre! > Thirty. I built one in jr. high shop class! ;-D -- Bob Andrews bandrews@inreach.com http://www.anaserve.com/~BoBandrews From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 16:46:28 1996 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 19:36:57 -0400 From: Jason R To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: The imagineering how-to, part 1 Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu wrote: >What must be the > very first 'simulator' ride, built in 1901 at the Pan American > Exposition in Buffalo, New York. It was the brainchild of a >frustrated > college student named Frederic W. Thompson, who "designed it one > night > while hunger kept him awake" (quote from "The Great American > Amusement > Parks" by Gary Kyriazi.) It was known as 'A Trip to the Moon,' and > was > a combination of motion platform ride and walk-through attraction, a > sort of Jules Verne fantasy. This same young man, after forming an > alliance with Elmer 'Skip' Dundee, went on to build the grandfather\ > of > the modern theme park, known as Luna Park, on Coney Island in 1902. HEY Buffalo, Thats were I live!. And people think all were good for is snow.. HA!. Jay -- Jason R Member FDC {Beach Club lighting tech} VRC Homepage, Use it to find out ALL your Disney info needs. --Http://www.vivanet.com/~thelazer -- "I told'em the truth, and they fell for it"-Harry Anderson. From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 16:54:19 1996 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 02:25:55 -0800 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Re[2]: Lasers was Re[2]: PROMO SIGNS Was Contributors vs. lu Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Steve, I will be very interested in the info on the laser lights!! If I could get one ordered by Christmas I would not only have a start on next years Halloween, but have my husbands Christmas gift out of the way!! Kathy the new kid on the crypt mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 17:04:00 1996 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 19:47:10 -0400 From: Jason R To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: PROMO SIGNS Was Contributors vs. lurkers, Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Jim Kadel wrote: > Any Laser light experts around? Hi!.. Well though I am not a "Expert" in the sense that I dont attend some "Poly Tech School of Bla bla, with a dreegee in light/Physics Relational matter.." Anyway. It could be down in a few forms. First, the beam could be shown above someones head, although it would not totaly surrond them, it would be close enough for a good effect. The other way, is to not use a laser at all. Rather a light. You can see a good exampl of this at Epcot Center's Norway. At one point your boat travales up a ramp and brightly color beams of Green and white light {Not laser} are shown at you. This is done using a GOBO. It is much like {In fact it is} just like some lights used at a club, check out the Amercan DJ catalog for this type of light. Another example is at The Magic Kingdoems, Dreamfligh ride. The part were you hear "Prepare for super sonic take off" and you see a tunnle effect of light rotaing around you. Again, a DJ club effect. Just a disk with holes in it, placed in front of a light, with a motor turing the disk. Add some fog and VOLIA! Although low power laser light is strong, the chance of it hitting someone in the eye, in just the right spot is not that great. Providing the person doesnt literly stair right into the beam or stand next to were the beam is emited from and look right into it. Still, the chance is something I wouldnt {And many laser show places} wont take. There is one company called "Ellcipse" That sell laser systems that as they say "Are safe for auddince emersion". I havent seen there stuff in action so I cant say more. There are also ways of simulating laser light useing L.E.D's. There is such a product, sold a few years back on the market to clubs, just for this reason, it provied 3 colors of light, that could be looked right at, and not affect anyone. I havent seen anything like this for sale now, but I still look for something like that. Maybe calling a laser show company such as "Image Engernearing" 0r a club that has one, might provide more info on this. Jay -- Jason R Member FDC {Beach Club lighting tech} VRC Homepage, Use it to find out ALL your Disney info needs. --Http://www.vivanet.com/~thelazer -- "I told'em the truth, and they fell for it"-Harry Anderson. From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 17:05:29 1996 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 02:35:29 -0800 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: our halloween,errors and terrors, VERY LONG Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hey Brandts, It sounds like you did really well with all that happened!! And then you add a ER visit in the middle of all this!! You were in Hell you did not have to make one up!! Hope your little one is OK!! To bad we all can't gather in one place and put on one heck of a haunted house...as for the cars, maybe you need to use them more!!:) Kathy the new kid on the crypt mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 17:21:40 1996 From: Steve_Kirkman_at_BI-USA@astec.com Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 16:42:50 -0800 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: The imagineering how-to, part 1 Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Bravo! I can't wait for the rest of it!! Steve and Lori Mufasa1023@aol.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 17:32:18 1996 From: DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 19:07:30 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: PROMO SIGNS Was Contributors vs. lurkers, To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com >the fan freezes up and you have to use your daughters hairdryer to defrost it!! Heh... Halloween-L listmembers! We can even cause hibernation in machinery! Now just watch - someone will develop a use for this technique. ;-) -Doug P.S. Thanks for the warning, Kathy! *********************************************************************** * Safety, Courtesy, Show and Efficiency: * Doug Ferguson * * The Keys To The Kingdom * dwfww@jazz.ucc.uno.edu * *********************************************************************** From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 17:48:05 1996 From: htraver@dreamsys.com Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 17:30:54 -0700 Subject: Re: X-Files To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Kathy, I had the same experience with X Files. It was supposed to be one of htier better episodes, the Fluke Man episode. Seemed like a rather standard wierd leech-like creature in the sewers kind of story. It bored the breasts off me. Something tells me that X Files is a show for people who are too scared to get into the Halloween mood. The take-off at the Hanging last year at Knott's of the X Files was pretty funny though. Harry "Mulder" "Yes, Scully?" "Ever notice that we mention each other's last name every other sentence?" [ Sent From: Dreamscape Systems - dreamsys.com ] [ Location: Van Nuys, CA - (818) 781-7529 ] From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 17:52:01 1996 From: htraver@dreamsys.com Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 17:34:56 -0700 Subject: Re: Is there a Techno-Elite? To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com (Robyn thanking us tehcno maniacs) awwwwww (blushing furiously) But please! Keep on asking! Loved your contribution concerning events and the media :) Harry [ Sent From: Dreamscape Systems - dreamsys.com ] [ Location: Van Nuys, CA - (818) 781-7529 ] From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 17:52:45 1996 From: htraver@dreamsys.com Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 17:38:56 -0700 Subject: Re: PROMO SIGNS Was Contributors vs. lurkers, To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Jim, it's not my effect. I had seen it at Chamber of Horrors in Anaheim back in 88, and ended up with one large discussion about eye safety about it. Love the effect, but was and am concerned still about the eye safety. The way I saw it was down a 50-70 foot long corridor. Your comment about it moving all the time may just be what renders it safe. Am not sure.... Harry [ Sent From: Dreamscape Systems - dreamsys.com ] [ Location: Van Nuys, CA - (818) 781-7529 ] From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 17:57:18 1996 From: htraver@dreamsys.com Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 17:42:58 -0700 Subject: Re: PROMO SIGNS Was Contributors vs. lurkers, To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Doug, if it takes a length of time for the burn from a laser, then it would be safer with the spin rotation about 60-100 rpm for the beam? Harry [ Sent From: Dreamscape Systems - dreamsys.com ] [ Location: Van Nuys, CA - (818) 781-7529 ] From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 17:59:49 1996 From: htraver@dreamsys.com Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 17:44:58 -0700 Subject: Re: Is there a Techno-Elite? To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com (Bob talking about his assembly program for running a stepper motor) Am interested, since I run 6502's out here all the time. Harry in a No Intel Zone.... [ Sent From: Dreamscape Systems - dreamsys.com ] [ Location: Van Nuys, CA - (818) 781-7529 ] From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 18:49:13 1996 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 18:22:25 -0800 From: Bob Andrews To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Is there a Techno-Elite? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com htraver@dreamsys.com wrote: > > (Bob talking about his assembly program for running a stepper motor) > > Am interested, since I run 6502's out here all the time. > > Harry in a No Intel Zone.... > > [ Sent From: Dreamscape Systems - dreamsys.com ] > [ Location: Van Nuys, CA - (818) 781-7529 ] Harry, It was programmed for the Atari 400/800/1200 series 8-bit 6502 computer in 1981. I remember saving the program on my data cassette recorder.... ;-D Bob From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 19:44:35 1996 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 05:18:48 -0800 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: X-Files Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Allright!! Nice to know that I am not the only one that does not think the show is great!! Well, maybe this weeks will be better!! Keep telling me about Knotts so I keep saving my money for the trip!! Kathy the new kid on the crypt mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 19:52:59 1996 From: DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 21:32:10 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: PROMO SIGNS Was Contributors vs. lurkers, To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com >would be safer with the spin rotation about 60-100 rpm for the beam? Harry, My rule of thumb is: If in doubt, don't. I'd keep the laser radiation off the audience, unless, and this is a _big_ unless, you cause the beam to diverge significantly, such that the beam spot's area is at least 4 times as large as it normally would be. I say this due to the 'golden rule' of physics dealing with intensity, the 'inverse square law.' In other words: Double the distance, half the amplitude. We audio guys use that a lot when dealing with sound. If you diverge the laser beam, the intensity- per-square-unit is significantly reduced. Still, to avoid possible radiation from patrons lawyers, keep it confined to the stage. :-) -Doug *********************************************************************** * Safety, Courtesy, Show and Efficiency: * Doug Ferguson * * The Keys To The Kingdom * dwfww@jazz.ucc.uno.edu * *********************************************************************** From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 20:07:08 1996 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 19:46:18 -0800 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Len Canders Subject: Re: Fangs and Farewell Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 03:22 PM 11/13/96 -0500, you wrote: >> Will leave with fangful thoughts. The problem of making fake fangs (my >> chosen medium is fingernail acrylic) is that it's awkward and unwise to >> work inside your own mouth. It's best to have a positive cast of your >> teeth. My method: Get a small block of Fimo or Sculpy clay, and bite >> into it. Remove carefully and bake according to instructions. This is >> your negative mold. For the positive casting, I use hot glue! Squeeze it >> in gently to avoid air bubbles. Let it set and pop it out. You can then >> model your fake fangs on the positive mold. It's slightly flexible, so >> it's easy to pop the fangs off. >My boyfriend and I just made fangs but we used dental equipment...while >it's slightly expensive, it's relatively easy to do..if anyone wants tips >or anything about it, let me know... > >domina > you might also visit my how-to web page (see entry url in sig below) for info on making your own fangs. part 1, materials & some resources, is up and the actual making will be finished some time 8-] ... at least in time for next halloween. len canders lcanders@ccnet.com "in the fuzz" http://www.ccnet.com/~lcanders/welcome.html concord, ca From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 20:12:44 1996 From: htraver@dreamsys.com Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 19:55:32 -0700 Subject: Re: Is there a Techno-Elite? To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Ah well. thanks anyways (ah, memories of cassette storage :) remind me to send you someday a haunted house show controller program I am writing in a combo of basic & assembly. it's like a 16 channel professional stagecraft type, only it's more towards my needs :) Harry [ Sent From: Dreamscape Systems - dreamsys.com ] [ Location: Van Nuys, CA - (818) 781-7529 ] From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Nov 13 20:26:55 1996 From: cheese@adstone.com Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 22:35:04 -0500 Subject: << waterfall made of skulls >> To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com HA>of pump would i need.......could i use the little ones that are sold for HA>creating H2O falls in back yardponds... ???? will it create enough preasure HA>??...... anyone care to coment or help with imput ??? would love to HA>brainstorm.