analyzed, in exacting detail, the original files in question and determined that the program is innocent of all accusations. It is neither a trojan horse nor a virus. Please ignore any messages regarding this supposed "virus" and do not pass on any messages regarding it. Passing on messages about this hoax serves only to further propagate it. -------- This was taken from the Symantec Anti-Virus Research Center hoax alert department. http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/hoax.html Jack B. -- DesignMasters, Inc. http://www.dmwc.com Web Creations From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Dec 15 12:29:59 1996 From: milwiron@btprod.com Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 14:17:38 -0600 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Short announcement Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hey all, Terror By Design's current catalog is available as a zipped file for downloading. Go to the bottom of TBD's homepage for a link to download the .zip file. You'll need an unzipping program such as Winzip or Pkunzip and a stand alone web browser such as Navigator, Internet Explorer or Mosaic to view the catalog. The catalog pages use .htm file extensions and are viewed offline via your browser. The file size is 300kb. Thanks much, Denny From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Dec 16 10:02:01 1996 Date: Mon, 16 Dec 96 12:52:10 EST From: Stuart McIntire To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Can You Help? (FUZZY MEMORY) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hi all. Sorry, this isn't related to Halloween, but maybe someone can help. I remember something that may have been a TV show, a segment of a TV show, or a commercial from circa 1962 to 1966. It may have been national, or just local to the Columbus, Ohio area. I seem to recall it was called Lucy's Toy Shop. Maybe it was even a store in the Columbus area. What I remember is limited and vague. There was a "machine" which produced toys of all sorts. It was wound up by a key and a conveyor belt carried the toys out. It would have been somewhat large - taller than five or six feet at a minimum, and the conveyor belt would have been several feet long. The toys would have been as large or even larger than a child's tricycle (I think that was one of the many items I remember). Can anyone confirm my fuzzy memory, and if so, can you fill in any details that I haven't mentioned? Did this exist, or is it a figment of my fevered and overactive imagination? ;) - Stu stuart.mcintire@uage.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Dec 16 10:14:28 1996 From: Jacqui Young To: "halloween-l@netcom.com" , "'Stuart McIntire'" Subject: RE: Can You Help? (FUZZY MEMORY) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 13:09:47 -0500 Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Stu, There was such a machine in Babes in Toyland??? Jacqui jay ---------- I seem to recall it was called Lucy's Toy Shop. Maybe it was even a store in the Columbus area. What I remember is limited and vague. There was a "machine" which produced toys of all sorts. It was wound up by a key and a conveyor belt carried the toys out. It would have been somewhat large - taller than five or six feet at a minimum, and the conveyor belt would have been several feet long. The toys would have been as large or even larger than a child's tricycle (I think that was one of the many items I remember). Can anyone confirm my fuzzy memory, and if so, can you fill in any details that I haven't mentioned? Did this exist, or is it a figment of my fevered and overactive imagination? ;) - Stu stuart.mcintire@uage.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Dec 16 11:25:13 1996 Date: Mon, 16 Dec 96 14:13:23 EST From: Stuart McIntire To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re[2]: Can You Help? (FUZZY MEMORY) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Jacqui says: >There was such a machine in Babes in Toyland??? That would make perfect sense...I did see Babes In Toyland at a drive-in theater when I was very young - in Columbus, I believe. I have three kids and haven't rented the movie for them yet...I guess it's time for a trip to the video store, huh? Does this ring true? Can anyone back up Jacqui's reply? - Stu stuart.mcintire@uage.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Dec 16 12:02:07 1996 Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 12:03:48 -0800 From: Bob Andrews To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Can You Help? (FUZZY MEMORY) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Stuart McIntire wrote: > > Jacqui says: > > >There was such a machine in Babes in Toyland??? > > That would make perfect sense...I did see Babes In Toyland at a > drive-in theater when I was very young - in Columbus, I believe. > > I have three kids and haven't rented the movie for them yet...I > guess it's time for a trip to the video store, huh? > > Does this ring true? Can anyone back up Jacqui's reply? > > - Stu > stuart.mcintire@uage.com Stuart, They had a similar machine in the movie "Santa Claus Conquers the Martians" Or some such title. It also boasts an eight year old Pia Zidora in green make-up. -- Bob Andrews bandrews@inreach.com http://www.anaserve.com/~BoBandrews From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Dec 16 13:45:06 1996 To: Halloween-L From: William E Rompala Date: 16 Dec 96 16:32:49 EDT Subject: Re: Can You Help? (FUZZY MEMORY) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com > They had a similar machine in the movie "Santa Claus Conquers the >Martians" Or some such title. It also boasts an eight year old Pia >Zidora in green make-up. Now, if THAT'S not a reason to just high-tail it out to the video store..... ;-) -W William Rompala Rompala Consulting romwil@bee.net day: rompala_william@jpmorgan.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Dec 16 14:57:41 1996 From: DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 16:42:37 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Re[2]: Can You Help? (FUZZY MEMORY) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com >Does this ring true? Can anyone back up Jacqui's reply? Well, the 'Toy-Making Machine' in _Babes in Toyland_ was not key-wound, but computer controlled, presumably, due to the presence of a proto-CRT. It also had an assemblage of 'whatzit-bellows' and moving parts, and consisted of a series of modules. The toymaker's apprentice (a proto-nerd) had built it to expedite the Toymaker's (Ed Wynn, I believe) operation. Naturally, the Toymaker managed to overload it with input and it self-destructed in a spectacular fashion. What I found most interesting is that the input device suggested the use of CAD-style data entry, and the device itself was presumably a CAM device, a-la Disney Fantasy. I saw this film a couple of times as a kid, and loved it back then. It doesn't really translate to an adult audience that well, but hey. :-) -Doug *********************************************************************** * Safety, Courtesy, Show and Efficiency: * Doug Ferguson * * The Keys To The Kingdom * dwfww@jazz.ucc.uno.edu * *********************************************************************** From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Dec 16 15:05:17 1996 Date: Mon, 16 Dec 96 17:50:49 EST From: Stuart McIntire To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re[2]: Can You Help? (FUZZY MEMORY) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Bob sez: >They had a similar machine in the movie "Santa Claus Conquers the >Martians" Or some such title. It also boasts an eight year old Pia >Zidora in green make-up. Ummm...hmmm...I *think* I'm a bit older than Pia (or thought I was, anyway...). But I'm almost certain I've never seen the movie. Or at least as far as you know... ;) - Stu stuart.mcintire@uage.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Dec 16 15:08:02 1996 Date: Mon, 16 Dec 96 17:53:41 EST From: Stuart McIntire To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: BANTER: (FUZZY MEMORY) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com William says: >Now, if THAT'S not a reason to just high-tail it out to the video store..... I've always wondered what Pia looked like in green. And THAT'S a sure sign I've got too much time on my hands! :) - Stu stuart.mcintire@uage.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Dec 16 19:51:30 1996 Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 19:42:17 -0800 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Greg Hope Subject: (Some of) the San Diegans meet at last Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hello again, Tom and Dana! It was great getting to meet the two of you, face to face. Thanks for joining me at Starbuck's. To the rest of the local group, Aaron, Doug, Brenda and Dianne, we missed you, but there will be other chances! For those who couldn't make this meeting, we discussed the possibility of having "workshops" every couple of months or so over the next year. The idea is to share our effort and know-how to construct props, costumes, effects for the next Halloween. As a group, we could learn to build some of the gadgets we've read about on the listserv and maybe even save some money on supplies. Of course, the main goal is to have fun and keep the Halloween spirit alive during the slow months! So far, we plan to get together again some time after the new year has passed. For the sake of those who haven't yet joined the group, we'll probably still meet in a public place, like a coffee shop. If one or more of you who couldn't make this meeting would take the lead in planning the next, we'd be glad to see it work out for a larger group! =========================================== To the Halloween group at large, my apologies for falling out of touch recently. My ISP has been less than reliable and I lost a couple of days on an I/O controller that went to that big network in the sky. Thanks and thanks again to everyone who has responded to my request for information for the member directory. To those of you who haven't responded and are reading this, I won't bite and I'm not giving up on you! So far, I'm on the M's in the alphabet and don't expect to have a complete file to release until some time in January, owing to a busy holiday season. Many thanks to those of you who showed support and offered ideas. You're all great people! Season's Greetings! Greg T (619) 945-4424 F (619) 726-2804 E ghope@mailhost.csusm.edu From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Dec 16 23:35:41 1996 Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 02:47:15 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: "John P. Jeffries" Subject: Halloween on the brain Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Oh, I've been in the "mood" as of late. The other day I was humming an X-mas tune and found that I had also began to sing in a Halloween theme. Made me laugh, so I thought I would share: (Deck the halls, even though I can't remember the whole tune) Deck the halls with skulls and cross-bones, Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-Lo-Ween. spread the cob-webbs and slime green, Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-Lo-Ween. Dawn we now our grim apparel, Ha-ha-ha-..Ha-ha-ha...Ha-Lo-Ween. Scare the children, and their parents, Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha....Ha-Haaaaallooooooeeeeeeennnnnnn. I also have the one I call "Death-toll bells" I sang to the tune of "Jingle-Bells" when I was playing "Santa" in the Haunted Attraction, but I hate to post it all without getting some feed-back...Hate to "offend" anyone :) (The tune contains graphic remarks like:) "Dripping trails of blood, while sloshing through the snow, the cops couldn't figure out who it was, but it was Santa don't you know...OH! Death-toll bells Death-toll bells Death-toll all the way........." Yes, I'm sick..:) But my doctor said I [was] getting better :) Muahahhahah! John ********************************* * Mr.Scary Productions * * http://www.mrscary.com * * E-mail: mrscary@kiva.net * * 1-812-824-8935 * * FAX: 1-812-824-9960 * ********************************* From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Dec 17 01:31:13 1996 From: htraver@dreamsys.com Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 00:39:48 -0700 Subject: Can You Help? (FUZZY MEMORY) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com (Stu's over-active imagination about toys). no help, but it sounds like a premise for a scary room, you know how some toys and dolls are inherently sinister.... think how to spook with the conveyor belt.... body parts on the belt, too easy....toys coming to life???/ better..... think 7th guest where you realize the toys have all the souls of the children.... Harry in a brain ramble.... [ Sent From: Dreamscape Systems - dreamsys.com ] [ Location: Van Nuys, CA - (818) 781-7529 ] From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Dec 17 03:06:28 1996 Date: Tue, 17 Dec 96 06:02:03 EST To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Bill Lewis Subject: Re: Re[2]: Can You Help? (FUZZY MEMORY) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 05:50 PM 12/16/96 EST, you wrote: >Bob sez: > > >They had a similar machine in the movie "Santa Claus Conquers the >>Martians" Or some such title. It also boasts an eight year old Pia >>Zidora in green make-up. > > Ummm...hmmm...I *think* I'm a bit older than Pia (or thought > I was, anyway...). But I'm almost certain I've never seen > the movie. Or at least as far as you know... ;) > > - Stu > stuart.mcintire@uage.com Well she's probably (well) over 40 by now. The last time I recall seeing her she was not looking quite as spritely as she used to. I think I saw her doing some Macy's parade (though not this year), or some other event. BTW, I always thought she was pretty talentless, and could never understand why she ever got as far as she did in the entertainment industry. I think she married some big-wig. Bill Lewis NSWC Carderock Division Code 6060 (301) 227-2742 lewisw@oasys.dt.navy.mil lewisb@erols.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Dec 17 03:57:48 1996 Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 06:50:03 -0500 From: ROGER ALEXANDER To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Halloween on the brain -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com John, I love it! More!! MORE!!! Guess I'm just as sick a mind as you! ;) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Roger Alexander Phone: 812-854-4748 Naval Surface Warfare Center Fax: 812-854-3508 Bldg 64 Code 111RA Crane, IN 47522 INTERNET: rda413@smtp.nwscc.sea06.navy.mil Supporting the Fleet through Supply! >>> John P. Jeffries 12/17/96 2:47 am >>> Oh, I've been in the "mood" as of late. The other day I was humming an X-mas tune and found that I had also began to sing in a Halloween theme. Made me laugh, so I thought I would share: (Deck the halls, even though I can't remember the whole tune) Deck the halls with skulls and cross-bones, Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-Lo-Ween. spread the cob-webbs and slime green, Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-Lo-Ween. Dawn we now our grim apparel, Ha-ha-ha-..Ha-ha-ha...Ha-Lo-Ween. Scare the children, and their parents, Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha....Ha-Haaaaallooooooeeeeeeennnnnnn. I also have the one I call "Death-toll bells" I sang to the tune of "Jingle-Bells" when I was playing "Santa" in the Haunted Attraction, but I hate to post it all without getting some feed-back...Hate to "offend" anyone :) (The tune contains graphic remarks like:) "Dripping trails of blood, while sloshing through the snow, the cops couldn't figure out who it was, but it was Santa don't you know...OH! Death-toll bells Death-toll bells Death-toll all the way........." Yes, I'm sick..:) But my doctor said I [was] getting better :) Muahahhahah! John ********************************* * Mr.Scary Productions * * http://www.mrscary.com * * E-mail: mrscary@kiva.net * * 1-812-824-8935 * * FAX: 1-812-824-9960 * ********************************* From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Dec 17 05:00:09 1996 Date: Tue, 17 Dec 96 07:56:25 EST To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Bill Lewis Subject: Re: Halloween on the brain -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 06:50 AM 12/17/96 -0500, you wrote: >Yes, I'm sick..:) But my doctor said I [was] getting better :) Muahahhahah! Get a second opinion... I don't think you were sick in the first place. From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Dec 17 06:20:56 1996 From: DeadRider@aol.com Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 09:09:47 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: (Some of) the San Diegans meet at last Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com A workshop is a great idea I wish I was on the west coast so I could join . Is there anyone in the Phila, NJ , Del or South NY that might like to get together Aven Haunted Hollow (609) 455-39364 or E-mail me From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Dec 17 08:15:24 1996 Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 08:08:25 -0800 (PST) From: Don Bertino To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Laser Displays Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com For those that have really big plans for next year ..... :) :) :) From: johnc@halcyon.com (John A. Closue) Subject: International Laser Display Association Web Pages The International Laser Display Association is pleased to announce that our web pages have moved to: http://www.ilda.wa.org If you are interested in laser display and its associated fields, please stop by and look at our pages. The International Laser Display Association (ILDA) is a non-profit organization dedicated to the advancement of the laser display. Our members produce artistic content, manufacture hardware systems, and perform shows all over the world. bertino@netcom.com ____/^\_____________________________________ Disney ascii art & / \ || FDC MCP || / \ animations are at <______\ [] [] [] || [] [] [] || [] [] [] /______> http://www.calweb.com \----------------||----------||----------------/=== /~bertino===============\______________||__________||______________/===== From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Dec 18 13:24:53 1996 Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 13:54:10 -0700 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Cool Stuff Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com For those of you in driving distance of the outlets on Route 30 outside of Lancaster, PA: try the Spencer's outlet. They had a cool gargoyle candelabra and a skull hourglass... From owner-xmas-l@majordomo.netcom.com Thu Dec 19 04:03:40 1996 From: Jacqui Young To: "'Halloween'" , "'Christmas'" Subject: A little Christmas chuckle Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 07:03:46 -0500 Reply-To: xmas-l@netcom.com A friend sent me this and I thought it might get a chuckle from the both the Christmas crowd and the Halloween crowd. Sorry to the list members who belong to both for the duplication. The X-mas Files by Frank Cammuso and Hart Seely 37 ELM STREET BETHLEHEM, PA. 11:51 PM, DECEMBER 24TH We're too late! It's already been here. Mulder, I hope you know what you're doing. Look Scully, just like the other homes: Douglas fir, truncated, mounted, transfromed into a shrine; halls decked with boughs of holly; stockings hung by the chimney, with care. You really think someone's been here? Someone, or SOMETHING. Mulder, over here, it's fruitcake. Don't touch it! Those things can be lethal. It's OK. There's a note attached: "Gonna find out who's naughty and nice." It's judging them, Scully. It's making a list. Who? What are you talking about? Ancient mythology tells of an obese humanoid entity who could travel at great speed in a craft powered by antlered servants. Once each year, near the winter solstice, this creature is said to descend from the heavens to reward its followers and punish disbelievers with jagged chunks of anthracite. But that's legend, Mulder -- A story told by parents to frighten children. Surely you don't believe it? Something was here tonight, Scully. Check out the bite marks on this gingerbread man. Whaterver tore through this plate of cookies was massive -- and in a hurry. It left crumbs everywhere. And look, Mulder, this milk glass has been completely drained. It gorged itself, Scully. It fed without remorse. But why would they leave it milk and cookies? Appeasement. Tonight is the Eve, and nothing can stop its wilding. But if this thing does exist, how did it get in? The doors and windows were locked. There's no sign of forced entry. Unless I miss my guess, it came in through the fireplace. Wait a minute, Mulder. If you're saying some huge creature landed on the roof and came down this chimney, you're crazy. The flue is barely six inches wide. Nothing could get down there. But what if it could alter its shape, move in all directions at once? You mean like a bowl full of jelly? Exactly, Scully. I've never told anyone this, but whgen I was a child my home was visited. I saw the creature. It had long white shanks of fur surrounding its ruddy, misshapen head. Its bloated torso was red and white. I'll never forget the horror. I turned away, and when I looked back it somehow took on the facial features of my father. Impossible. I know what I saw. And that night it read my mind. It brought me a Mr. Potato Head, Scully. IT KNEW THAT I WANTED A MR. POTATO HEAD! I'm sorry, Mulder, but you're asking me to disregard the laws of physics. You want me to believe in some supernatural being who soars across the skies and brings gifts to good little girls and boys. Listen to what you're saying. Do you understand the reprecussions? If this gets out, they'll close the X-files. Scully, listen to me: It knows when you're sleeping. It knows when you're awake. But we have no proof. Last year, on this exact date, SETI radio telescops detected bogeys in the airspace over twenty-seven states. The White House ordered a Condition Red. But that was a meteor shower. Officially. Two days ago, eight prized Scandinavian reindeer vanished from the National Zoo, in Washington, DC. Nobody-- not even the zookeeper-- was told about it. The government doesn't want people to know about Project Kringle. They fear that if this thing is proved to exist the public will stop spending half its annual income in a holiday shopping frenzy. Retail markets will collapse. Scully, they cannot let the world believe this creature lives. There's too much at stake. They'll do whatever it takes to ensure another silent night. Mulder, I-- Sh-h-h. Do you hear what I hear? On the roof. It sounds like... a clatter. The truth is up there. Let's see what's the matter. ______________ - Taken from the Dec 16, 1996 edition of the New Yorker by hundreds - of netizens and X-freaks. Ho Ho Ho Merry Christmas from Jacqui jacqui.young@cciw.ca From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Thu Dec 19 04:06:53 1996 From: Jacqui Young To: "'Halloween'" , "'Christmas'" Subject: A little Christmas chuckle Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 07:03:46 -0500 Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com A friend sent me this and I thought it might get a chuckle from the both the Christmas crowd and the Halloween crowd. Sorry to the list members who belong to both for the duplication. The X-mas Files by Frank Cammuso and Hart Seely 37 ELM STREET BETHLEHEM, PA. 11:51 PM, DECEMBER 24TH We're too late! It's already been here. Mulder, I hope you know what you're doing. Look Scully, just like the other homes: Douglas fir, truncated, mounted, transfromed into a shrine; halls decked with boughs of holly; stockings hung by the chimney, with care. You really think someone's been here? Someone, or SOMETHING. Mulder, over here, it's fruitcake. Don't touch it! Those things can be lethal. It's OK. There's a note attached: "Gonna find out who's naughty and nice." It's judging them, Scully. It's making a list. Who? What are you talking about? Ancient mythology tells of an obese humanoid entity who could travel at great speed in a craft powered by antlered servants. Once each year, near the winter solstice, this creature is said to descend from the heavens to reward its followers and punish disbelievers with jagged chunks of anthracite. But that's legend, Mulder -- A story told by parents to frighten children. Surely you don't believe it? Something was here tonight, Scully. Check out the bite marks on this gingerbread man. Whaterver tore through this plate of cookies was massive -- and in a hurry. It left crumbs everywhere. And look, Mulder, this milk glass has been completely drained. It gorged itself, Scully. It fed without remorse. But why would they leave it milk and cookies? Appeasement. Tonight is the Eve, and nothing can stop its wilding. But if this thing does exist, how did it get in? The doors and windows were locked. There's no sign of forced entry. Unless I miss my guess, it came in through the fireplace. Wait a minute, Mulder. If you're saying some huge creature landed on the roof and came down this chimney, you're crazy. The flue is barely six inches wide. Nothing could get down there. But what if it could alter its shape, move in all directions at once? You mean like a bowl full of jelly? Exactly, Scully. I've never told anyone this, but whgen I was a child my home was visited. I saw the creature. It had long white shanks of fur surrounding its ruddy, misshapen head. Its bloated torso was red and white. I'll never forget the horror. I turned away, and when I looked back it somehow took on the facial features of my father. Impossible. I know what I saw. And that night it read my mind. It brought me a Mr. Potato Head, Scully. IT KNEW THAT I WANTED A MR. POTATO HEAD! I'm sorry, Mulder, but you're asking me to disregard the laws of physics. You want me to believe in some supernatural being who soars across the skies and brings gifts to good little girls and boys. Listen to what you're saying. Do you understand the reprecussions? If this gets out, they'll close the X-files. Scully, listen to me: It knows when you're sleeping. It knows when you're awake. But we have no proof. Last year, on this exact date, SETI radio telescops detected bogeys in the airspace over twenty-seven states. The White House ordered a Condition Red. But that was a meteor shower. Officially. Two days ago, eight prized Scandinavian reindeer vanished from the National Zoo, in Washington, DC. Nobody-- not even the zookeeper-- was told about it. The government doesn't want people to know about Project Kringle. They fear that if this thing is proved to exist the public will stop spending half its annual income in a holiday shopping frenzy. Retail markets will collapse. Scully, they cannot let the world believe this creature lives. There's too much at stake. They'll do whatever it takes to ensure another silent night. Mulder, I-- Sh-h-h. Do you hear what I hear? On the roof. It sounds like... a clatter. The truth is up there. Let's see what's the matter. ______________ - Taken from the Dec 16, 1996 edition of the New Yorker by hundreds - of netizens and X-freaks. Ho Ho Ho Merry Christmas from Jacqui jacqui.young@cciw.ca From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Thu Dec 19 06:50:16 1996 From: "Jim Baggett" To: Subject: A little more Christmas Humor Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 09:26:42 -0500 Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com This was sent to the Irish Wolfhound list. I thought you all might enjoy it. Merry Christmas, Charmaine > > > A Christmas poem > > > >'Twas the night before Christmas and Santa's a wreck... > >How to live in a world that's politically correct? > >His workers no longer would answer to "Elves". > >"Vertically Challenged" they were calling themselves. > >And labor conditions at the north pole > >Were alleged by the union to stifle the soul. > > > >Four reindeer had vanished, without much propriety, > >Released to the wilds by the Humane Society. > >And equal employment had made it quite clear > >That Santa had better not use just reindeer. > >So Dancer and Donner, Comet and Cupid, > >Were replaced with 4 pigs, and you know that looked stupid! > > > >The runners had been removed from his sleigh; > >The ruts were termed dangerous by the E.P.A. > >And people had started to call for the cops > >When they heard sled noises on their roof-tops. > >Second-hand smoke from his pipe had his workers quite frightened. > >His fur trimmed red suit was called "Unenlightened." > > > >And to show you the strangeness of life's ebbs and flows, > >Rudolf was suing over unauthorized use of his nose > >And had gone on Geraldo, in front of the nation, > >Demanding millions in over-due compensation. > > > >So, half of the reindeer were gone; and his wife, > >Who suddenly said she'd enough of this life, > >Joined a self-help group, packed, and left in a whiz, > >Demanding from now on her title was Ms. > > > >And as for the gifts, why, he'd ne'er had a notion > >That making a choice could cause so much commotion. > >Nothing of leather, nothing of fur, > >Which meant nothing for him. And nothing for her. > >Nothing that might be construed to pollute. > >Nothing to aim. Nothing to shoot. > >Nothing that clamored or made lots of noise. > >Nothing for just girls. Or just for the boys. > >Nothing that claimed to be gender specific. > >Nothing that's warlike or non-pacific. > > > >No candy or sweets...they were bad for the tooth. > >Nothing that seemed to embellish a truth. > >And fairy tales, while not yet forbidden, > >Were like Ken and Barbie, better off hidden. > >For they raised the hackles of those psychological > >Who claimed the only good gift was one ecological. > > > >No baseball, no football...someone could get hurt; > >Besides, playing sports exposed kids to dirt. > >Dolls were said to be sexist, and should be passe; > >And Nintendo would rot your entire brain away. > > > >So Santa just stood there, disheveled, perplexed; > >He just could not figure out what to do next. > >He tried to be merry, tried to be gay, > >But you've got to be careful with that word today. > >His sack was quite empty, limp to the ground; > >Nothing fully acceptable was to be found. > > > >Something special was needed, a gift that he might > >Give to all without angering the left or the right. > >A gift that would satisfy, with no indecision, > >Each group of people, every religion; > >Every ethnicity, every hue, > >Everyone, everywhere...even you. > >So here is that gift, it's price beyond worth... > >"May you and you loved ones enjoy peace on earth." From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Thu Dec 19 10:18:42 1996 From: "D. Joseph Creighton" Subject: I have returned; not that anyone cares To: halloween-l@netcom.com ("The Hallowe'en-ies") Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 12:04:52 -0600 (CST) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Well, it is Dec 19. Nick, my boss (I'm posting this at lunch! :) who also reads this list, has told me the ugly rush has all but fizzled out and that there is a semblance of normality here once again... ...or at least, as normal as the regulars get around here. :) Nice to be back, all. - Joe -- "If we do not succeed, then we run the risk of failure." -- Dan Quayle, 1990 http://www.ee.umanitoba.ca/~djc/ D. Joseph Creighton [ESTP] | Programmer Analyst, Database Technologies, IST Joe_Creighton@UManitoba.CA | University of Manitoba Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Dec 20 10:16:52 1996 Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 19:26:30 -0800 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: I have returned; not that anyone cares Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Joe, It is not that we did not miss you, we are all in Halloween crash mode. The shock that it is over and that all the work is done. Then again there is always next year....I still think a skeleton with a Santa hat on in the front yard would be really cute!!! Better still put the skeleton in the chimney head first, and hang a red sack on his back...the kids in the block would really like that one!! Kathy the new kid on the crypt mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Dec 20 11:02:00 1996 From: JeanniSkip@aol.com Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 13:54:52 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Laser Displays Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Don wrote: << The International Laser Display Association (ILDA) is a non-profit organization dedicated to the advancement of the laser display. >> Hi Don, This made me remember something I saw on the news about a month ago here in So. California. The latest *craze* for the teenage crowd is bowling alleys with a twist. There is a name for them, which eludes me at the moment, but the entire bowling alley is transformed by lasers, foggers and strobe lights. According to this news report, these are supposedly springing up all across the country. Made me think, what a large haunt you could have there, with foggers, lasers, etc already in place! Jeanni P.S. Went out to dinner at Universal Citywalk last weekend and got to experience Southern California snow! (this relates to an earlier discussion regarding the snow effects at the Silver Legacy casino in Reno). Universal Citywalk is a trendy place to go with lots of cafes, restaurants, interesting shops, sidewalk musicians etc., all located adjacent to Universal Studios. Their advertising claims it will *snow* every hour on the hour for five minutes all throughout the holidays. Well of course we had to experience it. It is in an area usually utilized for some pretty elaborate dancing fountains that come up out of the ground in assorted patterns, and when they announced that snow was about to fall, everyone crowded in with great anticipation. An anonymous voice then instructed everyone to *act* cold, as though they are freezing (this is Hollywood, you know) followed by *Lights! Camera! Action!! Then it began to snow....great gobs of goop...looked more like shaving cream (or pigeons in flight) and made an awful mess. Pretty to look at while it was falling, but it was really pathetic to see all these local kids trying to scoop up handfuls of this stuff - and pelt each other with it. I thought this might be the same effect used at the Silver Legacy casino, but I think you said the snow dissipated as it fell there. Well...it was entertaining anyway....but I kept thinking that many of you on this list could do better effects! (sorry if I offend anyone associated with Universal Citywalk) From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Dec 20 13:45:30 1996 Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 16:53:34 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: "John P. Jeffries" Subject: Re: Laser Displays Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 01:54 PM 12/20/96 -0500, you wrote: >Don wrote: > ><< The International Laser Display Association (ILDA) is a non-profit > organization dedicated to the advancement of the laser display. > >> > >Hi Don, > >This made me remember something I saw on the news about a month ago here in >So. California. The latest *craze* for the teenage crowd is bowling alleys >with a twist. There is a name for them, which eludes me at the moment, but >the entire bowling alley is transformed by lasers, foggers and strobe lights. > According to this news report, these are supposedly springing up all across >the country. Made me think, what a large haunt you could have there, with >foggers, lasers, etc already in place! > >Jeanni ** (But I like the remark about "pigeons in flight" :)LOL) That "Transformation" taking place in bowling alleys is called "COSMIC BOWL". They use many "dance" theme lighting EFX (blacklights, lasers, etc) to add a twist to the game. I have not been to one, but it sounds interesting enough. Maybe "Full contact Golf" is in the future as well. :) :) Hauntingly, John ********************************* * Mr.Scary Productions * * http://www.mrscary.com * * E-mail: mrscary@kiva.net * * 1-812-824-8935 * * FAX: 1-812-824-9960 * ********************************* From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Dec 21 11:26:07 1996 Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 14:16:00 -0500 (EST) From: Lucien Desar To: Halloween mailing list Subject: Animated figures Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com I just got an idea, when the holidays are done, you can buy the Christmas animated dolls they have out at like 50-75% off and then change the looks of them. Perhaps Santa would look good redone as an evil doctor or werewolf. If you could make something up using latex and just use tha armature of the animated doll . I got the idea when I was in K-mart the other day and saw one of the animated dolls on display , however it fell over on it's face in the display among the fake snow and trees and looked like it was attacked by a mad rage of Elmo-doll buyers and still twisting and moving it's head with a muffled slow "Hooooo..Hoooooooo. Hoooooooooooooooo" L.D. From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Dec 21 11:43:56 1996 From: Maryanne Torgerson To: "'halloween-l@netcom.com'" Subject: FW: I have returned; not that anyone cares Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 11:37:48 -0800 Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Joe, It is not that we did not miss you, we are all in Halloween crash mode. The shock that it is over and that all the work is done. Then again there is always next year....I still think a skeleton with a Santa hat on in the front yard would be really cute!!! Better still put the skeleton in the chimney head first, and hang a red sack on his back...the kids in the block would really like that one!! Kathy the new kid on the crypt mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com Hey, I put Santa hats on my two front-porch gargoyles...thank you to whoever gave me the idea, I know it came from this list! Maryanne P.S. The house next door to me was on a Christmas parlor tour last Sunday, and I keep wondering what the passers-by from the tour thought of my Santa gargoyles (that is, if they even looked at 'em)! From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Dec 21 11:44:25 1996 Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 11:25:57 -0800 From: Bob Andrews To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Animated figures Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Lucien Desar wrote: > > I just got an idea, when the holidays are done, you can buy the > Christmas animated > dolls they have out at like 50-75% off and then change the looks of them. > Perhaps Santa would look good redone as an evil doctor or werewolf. If > you could make something up using latex and just use > tha armature of the animated doll . I got the idea when I was in K-mart > the other day and saw one of the animated dolls on display , however it fell > over on it's face in the display among the fake snow and trees and looked > like it was > attacked by a mad rage of Elmo-doll buyers and still twisting and moving > it's head with a muffled slow "Hooooo..Hoooooooo. Hoooooooooooooooo" > > L.D. Lucien, The animated figures also are a good source for gearmotors. I used two figures for my robot owl, one for the eye blinking and one for the head turning. I also used a motor from one of the larger santa figures for my projected ghost machine. It's a 5-6 rpm motor that's just fine for rotating the two-sided mirrors. -- Bob Andrews bandrews@inreach.com http://www.anaserve.com/~BoBandrews From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Dec 21 11:55:29 1996 From: Maryanne Torgerson To: "'halloween-l@netcom.com'" Subject: FW: Halloween on the brain Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 11:49:33 -0800 Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com I also have the one I call "Death-toll bells" I sang to the tune of "Jingle-Bells" when I was playing "Santa" in the Haunted Attraction, but I hate to post it all without getting some feed-back...Hate to "offend" anyone :) (The tune contains graphic remarks like:) "Dripping trails of blood, while sloshing through the snow, the cops couldn't figure out who it was, but it was Santa don't you know...OH! Death-toll bells Death-toll bells Death-toll all the way........." John, Don't leave us hanging.. I'm DYING to know the rest of the words! (All puns fully intentional.) Maryanne From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Dec 21 11:56:01 1996 From: Lotus_Mail_Exchange_at_vtc@vtel.com Date: Sat, 21 Dec 96 13:44:00 cst To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: NON-DELIVERY of: Animated figures Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Delivery Failure Report Your document: Animated figures could not be delivered to: Wayne Haas @ ccmail because: MailEx0010: cc:Mail user name too long. Routing path: CN=notes/O=VTEL,CN=AUS-NTS1/O=VTEL,CN=AUS-NTS1/O=VTEL,CN=notes/O=VTEL,CN= notes/O=VTEL,CN=notes/O=VTEL,CN=notes/O=VTEL To: halloween-l@netcom.com at Internet-Mail@ccMail@netcom.com at Internet-Mail at Notes@ccMail@netcom.com at Internet-Mail at Notes@ccMail cc: From: halloween-l@netcom.com at Internet-Mail@ccMail Date: 12-21-96 01:44:31 PM Subject: Animated figures I just got an idea, when the holidays are done, you can buy the Christmas animated dolls they have out at like 50-75% off and then change the looks of them. Perhaps Santa would look good redone as an evil doctor or werewolf. If you could make something up using latex and just use tha armature of the animated doll . I got the idea when I was in K-mart the other day and saw one of the animated dolls on display , however it fell over on it's face in the display among the fake snow and trees and looked like it was attacked by a mad rage of Elmo-doll buyers and still twisting and moving it's head with a muffled slow "Hooooo..Hoooooooo. Hoooooooooooooooo" L.D. (See attached file: RFC822.TXT) (See attached file: RFC822.TXT 12/21/96 01:39 PM) (See attached file: RFC822.TXT 12/21/96 01:39 PM 12/21/96 01:41 PM) Received: from vtelsun.vtel.com by vtelccm.vtel.com (SMTPLINK V2.11) ; Sat, 21 Dec 96 13:38:45 cst Return-Path: Received: from majordomo.netcom.com by vtelsun.vtel.com (8.7.5/relay.1.17) id NAA11236; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 13:41:07 -0600 (CST) Received: by majordomo.netcom.com (8.7.5/8.7.3/(NETCOM MLS v1.01)) id LAA00607; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 11:16:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 14:16:00 -0500 (EST) From: Lucien Desar X-Sender: desar@enterprise To: Halloween mailing list Subject: Animated figures Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Errors-To: owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Dec 21 12:13:21 1996 From: Lotus_Mail_Exchange_at_vtc@vtel.com Date: Sat, 21 Dec 96 14:01:00 cst To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: NON-DELIVERY of: FW: I have returned; not that anyone cares Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Delivery Failure Report Your document: FW: I have returned; not that anyone cares could not be delivered to: Wayne Haas @ ccmail because: MailEx0010: cc:Mail user name too long. Routing path: CN=notes/O=VTEL,CN=AUS-NTS1/O=VTEL,CN=AUS-NTS1/O=VTEL,CN=notes/O=VTEL,CN= notes/O=VTEL,CN=notes/O=VTEL,CN=notes/O=VTEL To: halloween-l@netcom.com at Internet-Mail@ccMail@netcom.com at Internet-Mail at Notes@ccMail@netcom.com at Internet-Mail at Notes@ccMail cc: From: halloween-l@netcom.com at Internet-Mail@ccMail Date: 12-21-96 02:01:13 PM Subject: FW: I have returned; not that anyone cares Joe, It is not that we did not miss you, we are all in Halloween crash mode. The shock that it is over and that all the work is done. Then again there is always next year....I still think a skeleton with a Santa hat on in the front yard would be really cute!!! Better still put the skeleton in the chimney head first, and hang a red sack on his back...the kids in the block would really like that one!! Kathy the new kid on the crypt mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com Hey, I put Santa hats on my two front-porch gargoyles...thank you to whoever gave me the idea, I know it came from this list! Maryanne P.S. The house next door to me was on a Christmas parlor tour last Sunday, and I keep wondering what the passers-by from the tour thought of my Santa gargoyles (that is, if they even looked at 'em)! (See attached file: RFC822.TXT) (See attached file: RFC822.TXT 12/21/96 01:56 PM) (See attached file: RFC822.TXT 12/21/96 01:56 PM 12/21/96 01:58 PM) Received: from vtelsun.vtel.com by vtelccm.vtel.com (SMTPLINK V2.11) ; Sat, 21 Dec 96 13:56:15 cst Return-Path: Received: from majordomo.netcom.com by vtelsun.vtel.com (8.7.5/relay.1.17) id NAA11248; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 13:58:36 -0600 (CST) Received: by majordomo.netcom.com (8.7.5/8.7.3/(NETCOM MLS v1.01)) id LAA01050; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 11:35:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <01BBEF33.654C7260@sul1-50.premier1.net> From: Maryanne Torgerson To: "'halloween-l@netcom.com'" Subject: FW: I have returned; not that anyone cares Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 11:37:48 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Errors-To: owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Dec 21 12:13:34 1996 From: Lotus_Mail_Exchange_at_vtc@vtel.com Date: Sat, 21 Dec 96 14:01:00 cst To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: NON-DELIVERY of: Re: Animated figures Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Delivery Failure Report Your document: Re: Animated figures could not be delivered to: Wayne Haas @ ccmail because: MailEx0010: cc:Mail user name too long. Routing path: CN=notes/O=VTEL,CN=AUS-NTS1/O=VTEL,CN=AUS-NTS1/O=VTEL,CN=notes/O=VTEL,CN= notes/O=VTEL,CN=notes/O=VTEL,CN=notes/O=VTEL To: halloween-l@netcom.com at Internet-Mail@ccMail@netcom.com at Internet-Mail at Notes@ccMail@netcom.com at Internet-Mail at Notes@ccMail cc: From: halloween-l@netcom.com at Internet-Mail@ccMail Date: 12-21-96 02:01:14 PM Subject: Re: Animated figures Lucien Desar wrote: > > I just got an idea, when the holidays are done, you can buy the > Christmas animated > dolls they have out at like 50-75% off and then change the looks of them. > Perhaps Santa would look good redone as an evil doctor or werewolf. If > you could make something up using latex and just use > tha armature of the animated doll . I got the idea when I was in K-mart > the other day and saw one of the animated dolls on display , however it fell > over on it's face in the display among the fake snow and trees and looked > like it was > attacked by a mad rage of Elmo-doll buyers and still twisting and moving > it's head with a muffled slow "Hooooo..Hoooooooo. Hoooooooooooooooo" > > L.D. Lucien, The animated figures also are a good source for gearmotors. I used two figures for my robot owl, one for the eye blinking and one for the head turning. I also used a motor from one of the larger santa figures for my projected ghost machine. It's a 5-6 rpm motor that's just fine for rotating the two-sided mirrors. -- Bob Andrews bandrews@inreach.com http://www.anaserve.com/~BoBandrews (See attached file: RFC822.TXT) (See attached file: RFC822.TXT 12/21/96 01:56 PM) (See attached file: RFC822.TXT 12/21/96 01:56 PM 12/21/96 01:58 PM) Received: from vtelsun.vtel.com by vtelccm.vtel.com (SMTPLINK V2.11) ; Sat, 21 Dec 96 13:56:31 cst Return-Path: Received: from majordomo.netcom.com by vtelsun.vtel.com (8.7.5/relay.1.17) id NAA11251; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 13:58:53 -0600 (CST) Received: by majordomo.netcom.com (8.7.5/8.7.3/(NETCOM MLS v1.01)) id LAA01060; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 11:35:50 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <32BC39C5.5917@inreach.com> Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 11:25:57 -0800 From: Bob Andrews X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Animated figures References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Errors-To: owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Dec 21 12:19:56 1996 From: Lotus_Mail_Exchange_at_vtc@vtel.com Date: Sat, 21 Dec 96 14:12:00 cst To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: NON-DELIVERY of: FW: Halloween on the brain Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Delivery Failure Report Your document: FW: Halloween on the brain could not be delivered to: Wayne Haas @ ccmail because: MailEx0010: cc:Mail user name too long. Routing path: CN=notes/O=VTEL,CN=AUS-NTS1/O=VTEL,CN=AUS-NTS1/O=VTEL,CN=notes/O=VTEL,CN= notes/O=VTEL,CN=notes/O=VTEL,CN=notes/O=VTEL To: halloween-l@netcom.com at Internet-Mail@ccMail@netcom.com at Internet-Mail at Notes@ccMail@netcom.com at Internet-Mail at Notes@ccMail cc: From: halloween-l@netcom.com at Internet-Mail@ccMail Date: 12-21-96 02:12:40 PM Subject: FW: Halloween on the brain I also have the one I call "Death-toll bells" I sang to the tune of "Jingle-Bells" when I was playing "Santa" in the Haunted Attraction, but I hate to post it all without getting some feed-back...Hate to "offend" anyone :) (The tune contains graphic remarks like:) "Dripping trails of blood, while sloshing through the snow, the cops couldn't figure out who it was, but it was Santa don't you know...OH! Death-toll bells Death-toll bells Death-toll all the way........." John, Don't leave us hanging.. I'm DYING to know the rest of the words! (All puns fully intentional.) Maryanne (See attached file: RFC822.TXT) (See attached file: RFC822.TXT 12/21/96 02:09 PM) (See attached file: RFC822.TXT 12/21/96 02:09 PM 12/21/96 02:10 PM) Received: from vtelsun.vtel.com by vtelccm.vtel.com (SMTPLINK V2.11) ; Sat, 21 Dec 96 14:08:27 cst Return-Path: Received: from majordomo.netcom.com by vtelsun.vtel.com (8.7.5/relay.1.17) id OAA11263; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 14:10:47 -0600 (CST) Received: by majordomo.netcom.com (8.7.5/8.7.3/(NETCOM MLS v1.01)) id LAA01365; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 11:47:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <01BBEF35.0996BF00@sul1-50.premier1.net> From: Maryanne Torgerson To: "'halloween-l@netcom.com'" Subject: FW: Halloween on the brain Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 11:49:33 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Errors-To: owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Dec 21 12:23:10 1996 From: Lotus_Mail_Exchange_at_vtc@vtel.com Date: Sat, 21 Dec 96 14:12:00 cst To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: NON-DELIVERY of: NON-DELIVERY of: Animated figures Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Delivery Failure Report Your document: NON-DELIVERY of: Animated figures could not be delivered to: Wayne Haas @ ccmail because: MailEx0010: cc:Mail user name too long. Routing path: CN=notes/O=VTEL,CN=AUS-NTS1/O=VTEL,CN=AUS-NTS1/O=VTEL,CN=notes/O=VTEL,CN= notes/O=VTEL,CN=notes/O=VTEL,CN=notes/O=VTEL To: halloween-l@netcom.com at Internet-Mail@ccMail@netcom.com at Internet-Mail at Notes@ccMail@netcom.com at Internet-Mail at Notes@ccMail cc: From: halloween-l@netcom.com at Internet-Mail@ccMail Date: 12-21-96 02:12:40 PM Subject: NON-DELIVERY of: Animated figures Delivery Failure Report Your document: Animated figures could not be delivered to: Wayne Haas @ ccmail because: MailEx0010: cc:Mail user name too long. Routing path: CN=notes/O=VTEL,CN=AUS-NTS1/O=VTEL,CN=AUS-NTS1/O=VTEL,CN=notes/O=VTEL,CN= notes/O=VTEL,CN=notes/O=VTEL,CN=notes/O=VTEL To: halloween-l@netcom.com at Internet-Mail@ccMail@netcom.com at Internet-Mail at Notes@ccMail@netcom.com at Internet-Mail at Notes@ccMail cc: From: halloween-l@netcom.com at Internet-Mail@ccMail Date: 12-21-96 01:44:31 PM Subject: Animated figures I just got an idea, when the holidays are done, you can buy the Christmas animated dolls they have out at like 50-75% off and then change the looks of them. Perhaps Santa would look good redone as an evil doctor or werewolf. If you could make something up using latex and just use tha armature of the animated doll . I got the idea when I was in K-mart the other day and saw one of the animated dolls on display , however it fell over on it's face in the display among the fake snow and trees and looked like it was attacked by a mad rage of Elmo-doll buyers and still twisting and moving it's head with a muffled slow "Hooooo..Hoooooooo. Hoooooooooooooooo" L.D. (See attached file: RFC822.TXT) (See attached file: RFC822.TXT 12/21/96 01:39 PM) (See attached file: RFC822.TXT 12/21/96 01:39 PM 12/21/96 01:41 PM) Received: from vtelsun.vtel.com by vtelccm.vtel.com (SMTPLINK V2.11) ; Sat, 21 Dec 96 13:38:45 cst Return-Path: Received: from majordomo.netcom.com by vtelsun.vtel.com (8.7.5/relay.1.17) id NAA11236; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 13:41:07 -0600 (CST) Received: by majordomo.netcom.com (8.7.5/8.7.3/(NETCOM MLS v1.01)) id LAA00607; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 11:16:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 14:16:00 -0500 (EST) From: Lucien Desar X-Sender: desar@enterprise To: Halloween mailing list Subject: Animated figures Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Errors-To: owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com (See attached file: RFC822.TXT) (See attached file: RFC822.TXT 12/21/96 02:10 PM) (See attached file: RFC822.TXT 12/21/96 02:10 PM 12/21/96 02:11 PM) Received: from vtelsun.vtel.com by vtelccm.vtel.com (SMTPLINK V2.11) ; Sat, 21 Dec 96 14:09:55 cst Return-Path: Received: from majordomo.netcom.com by vtelsun.vtel.com (8.7.5/relay.1.17) id OAA11266; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 14:12:16 -0600 (CST) Received: by majordomo.netcom.com (8.7.5/8.7.3/(NETCOM MLS v1.01)) id LAA01383; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 11:47:33 -0800 (PST) From: Lotus_Mail_Exchange_at_vtc@vtel.com Date: Sat, 21 Dec 96 13:44:00 cst Message-Id: <9611218512.AA851204761@vtelccm.vtel.com> To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: NON-DELIVERY of: Animated figures Sender: owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Errors-To: owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Dec 21 16:55:11 1996 Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 16:45:15 -0800 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: FW: I have returned; not that anyone cares Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Maryanne, I like the idea of the Christmas Gargoyles. People have no idea of how much fun it is to think these things up. Have a great Holiday!! Kathy The new kid on the crypt mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Dec 21 21:55:36 1996 From: htraver@dreamsys.com Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 21:48:28 -0700 Subject: Re: FW: I have returned; not that anyone cares To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com A friend suggested that I put a rockin reaper in my room into the window display at my house. Why not? :) Harry [ Sent From: Dreamscape Systems - dreamsys.com ] [ Location: Van Nuys, CA - (818) 781-7529 ] From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Dec 21 23:08:53 1996 Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 11:01:02 -0800 From: Dana Collins To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: What? Halloween Decorations Have to Come DOWN? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hello folks: My girlfriend and I still have about 10 or more of those ghosts you fill with newpaper, tie up with string, and hang on your trees right where we put them mid-October! Only now, they have red bows under their chins! Let me tell you, the Jehovah's witness that came over to save me the other day was _not_ as impressed as we were. He told me that the decorations represent demons and evil spirits, I told him that they were a celebration of pre-christian pagan solstices and that we enjoyed Samhain. I didn't buy his story, and I don't think he bought mine... Dana From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Dec 22 00:01:31 1996 From: "Brian Henderson" To: halloween-l@netcom.com Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 23:53:03 +800 Subject: Re: Animated figures Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com > I just got an idea, when the holidays are done, you can buy the > Christmas animated dolls they have out at like 50-75% off and then > change the looks of them. Perhaps Santa would look good redone as > an evil doctor or werewolf. I've always wanted to get an animated Santa, put an axe in his hand, cover him in blood and freak out the kiddies. Silent Night, Deadly Night anyone? Yeah, I'm sick, but so what? :) -Brian From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Dec 22 04:30:48 1996 Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 08:21:47 -0800 From: Keith Long To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Conversation Piece Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com First I would like to say that today is my first day as an apprentice learning how to make monsters/ghouls/and corpses. I will be learning from a local special effects company who specializes in Haunted Houses. I have also volunteered to help with the Haunted House for next year. Since I live in a apartment I can't decorate at home as much as I want to so a full size haunted house will hopefully fill my desires. I am in the works of putting together a conversation piece/main display for my apartment though. It will consist of Cerebus (the three headed dog) Cerebus is about the size of a Large Cougar if you wanted to know his size. His eyes do glow red and he is plumbed to do breath fire. I probably have him set up to breath smoke instead as fire is not allowed in an apartment. I plan on building a small cave for him to sit with of course the Gates behind him. Keith. Here's wishing everyone a Merry Christmas, a Happy New Year and the Best Halloween displays for 97 From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Dec 22 06:12:17 1996 To: halloween-l@netcom.com, milwiron@btprod.com From: Jim Kadel Subject: India Ink on Web Shooter Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 07:04:46 -0700 Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Season's Greetings to All, Here's an small "improvement idea" for those who have Denny's Web Shooter: ========================================================= I have been struggling with INDELIBLY marking those four(4) tiny "blow holes" in the can of the Web Shooter. These are somewhat difficult to see/find; however, a fine wire must be thrust through them for unclogging both during (extended) use and at cleanup. The problem was that nothing I tried remained INDELIBLE after using aggressive cleanup substances like: TriChlor, Acetone, Goo Off, etc. [Denny says these aren't necessary for cleanup, but I wanted something that would remain EVEN IF they were] Finally I tried INDIA INK and this seems to work. It's not expensive, about $2.90 an oz bottle at Staples. Because of India Ink drying time (hours), I held the shaft of the Shooter in a vise and encircled each hole with the ink, leaving it dry thoroughly before inking the next hole. Jim Kadel ( Jimk@rica.net ) From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Dec 22 07:21:30 1996 From: htraver@dreamsys.com Date: Sun, 22 Dec 1996 07:14:42 -0700 Subject: What? Halloween Decorations Have to Come DOWN? To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Typical but sad fact of life, Dana. Some religions and rednecks are so incredibly uptight that they see ANY form of Hallowen celebration as worshipping of evil. They cower in their homes when children come trick or treating while preaching to their kids about the evils of having a good time. Halloween is our way of laughing off evil. Simple as that. On the fun aside, a nice amusement park magazine called Theme Park Adventure features a full coverage of Halloween festivities including articles on Terror on Church Street, the Disneyland haunts, the world famous Knott's Halloween Haunt, and some others. It has some great historical accounts on all. A truly excellent and enjoyable magazine worth getting.Anyhoo, info below: subscription: $20 for 6 issues international: $30. All checks and money orders to be made out to Richard West Address: Theme Park Adventure Po Box 50226 Irvine, CA 92619-0226 or email rwesttpa@exo.com for more information. Harry [ Sent From: Dreamscape Systems - dreamsys.com ] [ Location: Van Nuys, CA - (818) 781-7529 ] From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Dec 23 06:07:10 1996 Date: Mon, 23 Dec 96 08:55:26 EST From: Stuart McIntire To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re[2]: Laser Displays Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com >That "Transformation" taking place in bowling alleys is called "COSMIC BOWL". >They use many "dance" theme lighting EFX (blacklights, lasers, etc) to add a >twist to the game. I have not been to one, but it sounds interesting enough. >Maybe "Full contact Golf" is in the future as well. :) :) They had a write up in the Washington Post about the laser/fog bowling phenomenon. I believe they said Bowl America either came up with the idea - or are propagating the idea. They're trying to draw a new generation of bowlers. - Stu stuart.mcintire@uage.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Dec 23 07:00:13 1996 Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 01:53:22 -0800 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Halloween/Christmas Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hi Harry and Gang, We are going to do a tribute to classic horror movies next year, and the more we talk about mixing the two. We are going to make some full size monsters for our display...I could just add a red cap, and some candycanes and they would fit right in!! Kathy Santa's newest Kid on the Crypt!! From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Dec 23 08:28:41 1996 Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 08:12:23 -0800 From: Spook To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Halloween/Christmas Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Good morning, I'm new to the list, so as I learn the proper manners, please feel free to provide adequate attitude adjustments as necessary. As for combining Halloween and Christmas, we're still recovering from the "Nightmare Before Christmas" party thrown by "Scarecrow" (the folks who make the vampire fangs, high-end masks, etc). I hope this sort of thing catches on, because there's nothing worse than regular Christmas parties. Its nice to party with a bunch of monsters in late December. I would be very interested in chatting with some of you who run Haunted Houses about things like ticket price, crowd control, crowd flow, number of actors, etc... You know, all that technical stuff that isn't any fun, but has to be addressed. Also, we shot television commercials this year, and we're not sure as to the effectivenes of television (we ran 122 spots). Any experience out there? Mark Grover Beach, CA. From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Dec 23 08:46:04 1996 Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 08:38:04 -0800 (PST) From: Don Bertino To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: I have returned; not that anyone cares Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com On Thu, 19 Dec 1996, D. Joseph Creighton wrote: > Well, it is Dec 19. Nick, my boss (I'm posting this at lunch! :) who also > reads this list, has told me the ugly rush has all but fizzled out and that > there is a semblance of normality here once again... > > ...or at least, as normal as the regulars get around here. :) > > Nice to be back, all. Welcome back, This less-week for christmas thing this year is killing me. Some would say thats a good thing... :) don bertino@netcom.com ____/^\_____________________________________ Disney ascii art & / \ || FDC MCP || / \ animations are at <______\ [] [] [] || [] [] [] || [] [] [] /______> http://www.calweb.com \----------------||----------||----------------/=== /~bertino===============\______________||__________||______________/===== From owner-xmas-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Dec 23 09:37:08 1996 Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 09:33:59 -0800 (PST) From: Don Bertino To: xmas-l@netcom.com, halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all! Reply-To: xmas-l@netcom.com Hi All! I just wanted to say Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all. What a year it has been! Thanks to all the contributors that have made these's list so great! It looks like the mailing list will be moving in the coming year. Don't worry I'll give everyone plenty of notice. The new location will have both archives (daily) and digests. So keep those ideas coming! And everyone be drive safe and don't drink and drive! BTW, those that love Holiday lights but maybe are snowed in and can't get out or are from out the area , I'm just finishing up my Virtual walk down Candy Cane Lane at http://www.calweb.com/~bertino/virtualcc.html Enjoy! don bertino@netcom.com ____/^\_____________________________________ Disney ascii art & / \ || FDC MCP || / \ animations are at <______\ [] [] [] || [] [] [] || [] [] [] /______> http://www.calweb.com \----------------||----------||----------------/=== /~bertino===============\______________||__________||______________/===== From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Dec 23 09:43:32 1996 Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 09:33:59 -0800 (PST) From: Don Bertino To: xmas-l@netcom.com, halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all! Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hi All! I just wanted to say Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all. What a year it has been! Thanks to all the contributors that have made these's list so great! It looks like the mailing list will be moving in the coming year. Don't worry I'll give everyone plenty of notice. The new location will have both archives (daily) and digests. So keep those ideas coming! And everyone be drive safe and don't drink and drive! BTW, those that love Holiday lights but maybe are snowed in and can't get out or are from out the area , I'm just finishing up my Virtual walk down Candy Cane Lane at http://www.calweb.com/~bertino/virtualcc.html Enjoy! don bertino@netcom.com ____/^\_____________________________________ Disney ascii art & / \ || FDC MCP || / \ animations are at <______\ [] [] [] || [] [] [] || [] [] [] /______> http://www.calweb.com \----------------||----------||----------------/=== /~bertino===============\______________||__________||______________/===== From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Dec 23 13:57:47 1996 Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 16:42:09 -0500 From: "Allan J. Clifford" To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Halloween/Christmas Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Spook wrote: > > Good morning, > > I'm new to the list, so as I learn the proper manners, please feel free to provide adequate > attitude adjustments as necessary. > > As for combining Halloween and Christmas, we're still recovering from the "Nightmare Before > Christmas" party thrown by "Scarecrow" (the folks who make the vampire fangs, high-end masks, > etc). I hope this sort of thing catches on, because there's nothing worse than regular Christmas > parties. Its nice to party with a bunch of monsters in late December. > > I would be very interested in chatting with some of you who run Haunted Houses about things like > ticket price, crowd control, crowd flow, number of actors, etc... You know, all that technical > stuff that isn't any fun, but has to be addressed. > > Also, we shot television commercials this year, and we're not sure as to the effectivenes of > television (we ran 122 spots). Any experience out there? > > Mark > Grover Beach, CA. Hey Mark! I would be interested in swapping info. I own and operate a Haunted event in Kentucky..Let's exchange e-mail addresses. Send me a note. aclifford@ntr.net From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Dec 23 17:27:51 1996 From: milwiron@btprod.com Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 19:15:05 -0600 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: faux Theremin Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hey All, There's a very simple shareware program available at- that lets your mouse generate some Theremin "similar" sounds (turn the vibrato way up). The audio editors I normally use (like Cool Edit, Sound Forge or Gold Wave) can record the sounds created. Kind of fun to play with... beats workin' and faster than digging the Theremin and amp out of my spare bedroom. Have a great holiday season all. Denny B.T. Productions' Terror By Design 630-830-9561 7:30 am. to 5:30 pm. CST fax 630-830-9577 24 hours Haunt Supplies & Scare Wares From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Dec 24 05:29:49 1996 Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 08:18:24 +0000 From: Cliff Martin To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Candelabra Plans - and Hello! Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com OK, so I'm a lurker. I'll admit it. But I've got good reasons: A new job, a new baby, a new haunted house, discovering this list, reading the archives, all since September! Whew!, I needed a vacation... (so my wife locked me in the dungeon) - but I'm finally out to offer this: An Inexpensive Haunted candelabra An inexpensive candelabra can be constructed using (of all things) ceiling fan parts! Most all ceiling fans have ornamental (and sometimes useful) globe or 'sconce' style light fixtures attached to their bottoms. This metal piece, flipped over, makes a great holder for candles (electric, of course). A few more lamp parts, some plastic pipe, lamp sockets, flicker bulbs, a bit of zip-cord, a plug, some paint, a couple of hours and you have a great candelabra ready for spider webs and a dark corner! Replacement fan-lamp parts are in bins at HQ, Home Depot and Lowes (around here anyway) for $2-$8 depending on how ornate the metal pieces are. I chose a three light armature model (there are also four and even five lamp models!). The more ornate the armature, the better. The most expensive armatures didn't look as good as the middle-of-the-price-range models. (I think I paid about $4 for the armature). The center (the part that attaches to the fan) may not have a 'cup' to put a candle into (mine didn't). I bought a single lamp-holder piece (about $2) and attached it to the center using the lamp-type threaded hardware included in the pack. Holding the assembly upright (or upside down depending on your orientation...) you now have a four-candle candelabra, sort of. I used a 15" piece of 3/4" copper pipe, a threaded rod, and some large washers to attach the 'handle' to the bottom of the center candle holder. Since my first use was to mount the candelabra outside on my gate posts, I used a 3/4" copper threaded adapter (the pipe slips in one end, threads on the other) and screwed it into a 3/4" flat flange as a base. [the flange was nailed to the top of the post]. Any imaginative base will work, depending where you want to use it. (other ways welcome!) Another use I had for these candelabra (I've built several now), was as floor standing 'lamps' at an entryway. I decided the 'lamps' needed to be about 4' to 5' tall, so I cut a piece of electrical conduit to length and painted it. I 'recycled' the short-handled version by removing the base flange and pipe, then put the threaded rod (still attached to the armature assembly) into the pole - threading the zip-cord through the pole as I went. A severe lack of time prevented me from building a really great base (again), so I sat the entire 'lamp' into an old bucket, the filled it with concrete! After it dried, I cut away the bucket - and I was surprised how well the concrete looked. Just a couple of splotches of paint, and the base worked very well (hey - it's a very dark hallway!) OK, that pretty well finishes the basic armature assembly. The candles were made of a 12" piece of 1" PVC plastic plumbing pipe, with an outdoor (ceramic) light socket attached to one end. The other end was fitted into the armature cup using a 1" coupling 'glued' to the cup with clear silicone caulk (excellent stuff, silicone caulk...) I used silicone to attach the socket to the top of the PVC - just glop on, then smooth it out. This will be made secure later... I used a bit of zip-cord, and attached to the socket with wire nuts, then threaded the cord through the cup, armature and out through the center of the fixture. After this, I pushed the PVC pipe into the coupling (no caulking/gluing here, it will stay together, and it can be taken apart later!). After assembling all the candles and attaching them to the armature, wire all the candles (including the center one!) together at the center cup base, then thread the zip-cord through the center and out through the base. Stand the almost ready candelabra upright in a steady place. I used a beige spray paint to color the candles, but any color will do - depending how you want to use it! Let this dry completely BEFORE continuing on. Use a caulking gun with the remaining CLEAR silicone and squirt out small lines from the top of the socket down to the middle of the PVC pipe - this makes the "melted wax" effect on the candle! Just a little bit of practice is all it takes to make the silicone look perfect! You may want to use a toothpick, small scrap of wood, or (my favorite) a torn piece of cardboard with the end shaped like a small "U" to help form the silicone a bit better on the candle. Note: the 'melted wax' silicone will hold the socket securely to the top of the PVC! Attach the plug, screw in some flicker bulbs, plug it in! This project is much simpler that I’ve made it sound here, and well worth the effort. I’m working on getting a few photos of the candelabra scanned and 'j-pegged' if anyone is interested... Merry Christmas! - Cliff (sharing is caring) cliff.martin@saralee.net P.S. I'm very interested in all aspects of haunted houses: from props and decorations, to ticket price, crowd control, crowd flow, number of actors, etc... Any info on the list (or private email is welcome! From owner-xmas-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Dec 24 06:31:36 1996 From: Jacqui Young To: "'Halloween'" , "'Christmas'" Subject: Merry Christmas Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 09:17:43 -0500 Reply-To: xmas-l@netcom.com Just wanted to take this time to say Merry Christmas to all and to all, a good night. Jacqui jacqui.young@cciw.ca From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Dec 24 06:36:54 1996 From: Jacqui Young To: "'Halloween'" , "'Christmas'" Subject: Merry Christmas Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 09:17:43 -0500 Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Just wanted to take this time to say Merry Christmas to all and to all, a good night. Jacqui jacqui.young@cciw.ca From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Dec 24 06:52:47 1996 Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 21:16:49 -0800 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Candelabra Plans - and Hello! Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Cliff, What a great way to unlurk!! I love the idea of the fan into lights....maybe time to shop is after the holidays...SALES!!!! You have to tell us more about your haunt and yourself!! Greeting and Happy Holidays Kathy the new kid on the crypt mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com From owner-xmas-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Dec 24 07:35:18 1996 Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 10:29:01 -0500 (EST) From: RevCOAL Subject: Season's Greetings Reply-To: xmas-l@netcom.com >From DJLogan ;-) Joyeux Noel Buon Natale Feliz Navidad Glaedelig Jul Hauskaa Joulua Froehlich Weihnachten Merry Christmas ##### #### ########## ### ######## ######### ######### ### ###### ## #### # ####### ###### ###### ## ########## ######## #### ####### ####### # ########## ###### ##### # #### ##### ##### ## * ##### #### # # # ## ######### # ## ##### # #### ######### #r# * #### ### ####### ## ####### Truth ### #### ####### ###### ## * Beauty #### # ## ######## ###### Liberty # #### ###### ###### ###### Elegance ###### #### #### ###### Simplicity ##### #### # ###### ### Ageless!Wisdom #### #### ######## # ## Inner!Light ## ## ###### ## #### ##### ! ###### ##### ## ####### @@@@@@@ rrrr#### ### # ###### ##### # @@@@@@@ rrrrrrr# ##### ######### ####rrrrrr @@@@@@@ rrrrrrrrrr ###### ######### rrrrrrrrrr@@@@@@@#rrrrrrrrrrrrrr #### #### #rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr ## rrrrrrrrrrrr rr(c) 1995, Javilk@mall-net.com rrrrrrrrrr## rr rrr ###rrrrrrrrr rrrrrr## ## rrr rrrrr ####rrrrr rrr rrrr rrrrr # rrr r rrrr rr rr (C) 1995, Javilk@mall-net.com http://www.mall-net.com/ Permission granted to re-use only if this notice and URL are included. <---- End Forwarded Message ----> From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Dec 24 07:48:52 1996 Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 10:29:01 -0500 (EST) From: RevCOAL Subject: Season's Greetings Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com >From DJLogan ;-) Joyeux Noel Buon Natale Feliz Navidad Glaedelig Jul Hauskaa Joulua Froehlich Weihnachten Merry Christmas ##### #### ########## ### ######## ######### ######### ### ###### ## #### # ####### ###### ###### ## ########## ######## #### ####### ####### # ########## ###### ##### # #### ##### ##### ## * ##### #### # # # ## ######### # ## ##### # #### ######### #r# * #### ### ####### ## ####### Truth ### #### ####### ###### ## * Beauty #### # ## ######## ###### Liberty # #### ###### ###### ###### Elegance ###### #### #### ###### Simplicity ##### #### # ###### ### Ageless!Wisdom #### #### ######## # ## Inner!Light ## ## ###### ## #### ##### ! ###### ##### ## ####### @@@@@@@ rrrr#### ### # ###### ##### # @@@@@@@ rrrrrrr# ##### ######### ####rrrrrr @@@@@@@ rrrrrrrrrr ###### ######### rrrrrrrrrr@@@@@@@#rrrrrrrrrrrrrr #### #### #rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr ## rrrrrrrrrrrr rr(c) 1995, Javilk@mall-net.com rrrrrrrrrr## rr rrr ###rrrrrrrrr rrrrrr## ## rrr rrrrr ####rrrrr rrr rrrr rrrrr # rrr r rrrr rr rr (C) 1995, Javilk@mall-net.com http://www.mall-net.com/ Permission granted to re-use only if this notice and URL are included. <---- End Forwarded Message ----> From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Dec 24 08:08:30 1996 Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 11:01:28 -0500 (EST) To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Santa Claus Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hello all:) Just wanted to wish everyone a Merry Christmas and I hope you all have a wonderful holiday! Denny Kennedy maryjane@sundial.net From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Dec 24 10:03:19 1996 Date: Tue, 24 Dec 96 12:49:32 EST From: Stuart McIntire To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Happy Holidays Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Happy holidays to one and all. Thanks for all the great info over the past year - and the promise of much more to come. I'm looking forward to contributing some more great info over the coming year that everyone will (hopefully) find of use. The list's First Great Controversy came immediately after Christmas last year...maybe I can stir up a little more of those good old-fashioned pent up emotions of Frustrated Halloween Wannabees once again. ;) Just kidding. I asked Santa for the Tales from the Crypt book this year. I'll let you know on Monday if I did in fact receive it, or if Santa left me a stocking full of coal. My bet's on the coal... :( Be safe. Be good. Merry Christmas! - Stu stuart.mcintire@uage.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Dec 24 10:22:30 1996 From: milwiron@btprod.com Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 12:09:09 -0600 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Happy Holidays Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 12:49 PM 12/24/96 EST, Stu wrote: >The list's First Great Controversy came immediately after Christmas last >year...maybe I can stir up a little more of those good old-fashioned pent up >emotions of Frustrated Halloween Wannabees once again. ;) Just kidding. >I asked Santa for the Tales from the Crypt book this year... Here we go again. ;) Denny Happy Holidays! From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Dec 24 11:14:55 1996 Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 10:57:21 -0800 (PST) From: Dave Bell To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Candelabra Plans - and Hello! Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hi, Cliff, and welcome "out of the closet"! (Re: Cliff Martin's great article on found parts for a candelabra.) Very nicely done article! Sounds like a new prop in my queue... I recently made a few "candle" props for a middle-school production of "A Christmas Carol", and your techniques blend nicely with some of the things I did. In the spirit of "sharing is caring": For a 3-candle tabletop candelabra, I started with a small aluminum pyramidal casting that is the base for a weatherproof 3-lamp yard light. It's bottom is the typical circular plate to cover a 4x4 wall box, with the casting on top. I screwed 3 long (~12") PVC sprinkler nipples (dark gray?) into the plate, so I had one sticking straight up the center, and one to each side, at maybe 30 degrees out, all in one plane. By the way, the threads for pipe and electrical fittings are (almost) the same - the pipe thread is tapered, so it goes in a little farther than conduit fittings, but bottoms out and tightens nicely. I used a small propane torch (you ought to get one of those little pistol-grip models that use a propane lighter as a fuel cell. They're great!) to gently soften the outer two pipes over a 3" span, near the base, then slowly bent them until they were parallel to the center one, and a couple inches shorter at the top. Back to the lighting parts, as you did, and picked up three miniature candelabra base sockets, with a skinny socket body and 2 inch "legs". Wire it first(!) and slide the legs down into the PVC pipes. You might need to use a penknife to bore out the tops of the pipes a bit - I needed to on *one* of them; must have been a different batch of pipe! Slide a 1.5"-2" bit of (1"?) white PVC over the socket and the threads of the nipples. I rounded the top edge of the white parts with a sander, to look more like a melted candle. I also found some little brass cups there, that slid over the pipe threads (larger, rolled edge, end down) and nade a nice transition from the "candle" to the pipe "candlestick". For "wax", I used clear (-ish) hot glue to make the expected drips down the sides. I liked your silicone, too, but the hot glue hardens quicker! Mount the aluminum plate on whatever base fits your fancy. For this one, I cut a square out of 2x6, bored a 1.5" hole through the center of the face to make room for the connections, and a 1/4" hole from one side into the center hole for the zip cord. Three flicker or steady (frosted) candle lamps, and its done. I didn't even paint the aluminum or PVC. The plate looks kind of like pewter, and the pipes could be wrought iron... (I did paint the base - flat black.) This is getting TOO long - I'll write up another one for the battery-operated portable candles Scrooge and his haunts carried around! Dave From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Dec 24 20:27:11 1996 Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 20:17:30 -0800 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Greg Hope Subject: Season's Greetings everyone! Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com I'm sure that most of you will be reading this after the big day but, nevertheless, I wish you all a very happy holiday season. Be safe, surround yourselves with those closest to you and enjoy! Best wishes, Greg in Vista T (619) 945-4424 F (619) 726-2804 E ghope@mailhost.csusm.edu From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Dec 25 11:03:53 1996 Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 16:49:53 -0800 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good Fright!!! Kathy The new kid on the crypt!! From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Dec 25 11:08:17 1996 Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 16:55:40 -0800 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Happy Holidays Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Stu, I am sure that you received what you wanted!! As for the coal if you do get it, just keep it for halloween!! It will make great effects laying around. :) Kathy the new kid on the crypt!! From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Dec 25 11:09:42 1996 Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 16:57:05 -0800 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Happy Holidays Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Yeah!! the new year has started here already and the two major ones are starting it!! It is going to be a major fun new year!!! Kathy the new kid on the crypt!! mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Wed Dec 25 11:56:21 1996 From: "Jim Baggett" To: Subject: Re: Happy Holidays Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 03:49:41 -0500 Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Merry Christmas! Charmaine From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Thu Dec 26 14:03:26 1996 To: Halloween-L From: William E Rompala Date: 26 Dec 96 16:55:53 EDT Subject: Struck by a muse. Anyone get the license plate? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com I was just going to say Merry Christmas, but this came out instead- Its the day after Christmas and all through the crypt not a creature was stirring the visitors felt gypt! They expected to be scared by blood and gore by bones and skulls and ghosts galore. All they found though near where the shadows would lie 'pon the silent coffins, were stockings hung high! Santa, it seems would be here too where zombies scamper and ghosts say boo. A new charge for Frankie! O positive for Vlad! A bottle of bone polish would make Ol' Skel glad! Every little ghoul was told, all snug in their grave that Santa would come so they'd better behave He would arrive by the crypt Around the stroke of midnight To wish them a Merry Christmas and to all a good fright. His wish was to them and those on Halloween-L who transform their homes into a replica of ! Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all of my e-friends I have met this year. Looking forward to next Halloween, -W William Rompala day address: rompala_william@jpmorgan.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Thu Dec 26 15:19:29 1996 From: DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 17:13:43 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Struck by a muse. Anyone get the license plate? To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com William, Loved the poem - right up there with 'Nightmare before Christmas' ;-) To all: A belated wish for a happy holiday season, and I hope all your fondest wishes (especially those for new Haunt gear) come true! I've been silent for over 3 weeks, but that doesn't mean I've given up on the book. New chapters will start appearing after the first of the year, along with new designs. It has been a busy holiday for me, as I am sure it has been for many of you. I'd like to add a welcome to our new members, and a thank-you for all the new ideas that have been shared, particularly for the budget candelabra imagineering ideas. William's humorous little verse mirrored what has happened to my halloweenish activities during the Christmas season: You better not scream, You better not howl, You better scare, You better beware! Sandy Claws is coming to town! See you again soon, -Doug F. *********************************************************************** * Safety, Courtesy, Show and Efficiency: * Doug Ferguson * * The Keys To The Kingdom * dwfww@jazz.ucc.uno.edu * *********************************************************************** From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Thu Dec 26 15:27:48 1996 Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 15:27:22 -0800 From: Bob Andrews To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Struck by a muse. Anyone get the license plate? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com DWFWW@jazz.ucc.uno.edu wrote: > > William, > > Loved the poem - right up there with 'Nightmare before Christmas' > ;-) > Ah, come on. William's rhymed! -- Bob Andrews not a guy from Kentucky bandrews@inreach.com http://www.anaserve.com/~BoBandrews From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Thu Dec 26 23:54:11 1996 From: htraver@dreamsys.com Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 23:33:24 -0700 Subject: Knotts report To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com I know it sounds a little out of timing, but am hearing that the design crew is already snapping photogaphs and measuring for the various haunted houses for 97's Haunt. Yipeee!!!!!!! hopefully, the Hanging will be better than this year. It was rather pale.... Harry [ Sent From: Dreamscape Systems - dreamsys.com ] [ Location: Van Nuys, CA - (818) 781-7529 ] From owner-xmas-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Dec 27 07:09:15 1996 From: EPBLUESTAR@aol.com Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 10:07:10 -0500 To: xmas-l@netcom.com, halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Christmas Party Reply-To: xmas-l@netcom.com Just an update. My Christmas Party went quite well. The last guest left at 3:30 so I guess they all had a good time. There was plenty of food. What would I do differently? Well, first I would invite more people. My list started out with about 14 couples and I ended up with about 20 guests. I will definetly over invite next year. Also, all my foods will be finger sized. A few desserts, I got lazy at the end and just made large versions. I think everyone would have enjoyed them more, in bite size portions. Otherwise, it all went very well. Thank you all for your help - until next Christmas Party......now what can I do for Valentines Day....hhhhmmmmm. Pamela From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Dec 27 07:12:35 1996 From: EPBLUESTAR@aol.com Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 10:07:10 -0500 To: xmas-l@netcom.com, halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Christmas Party Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Just an update. My Christmas Party went quite well. The last guest left at 3:30 so I guess they all had a good time. There was plenty of food. What would I do differently? Well, first I would invite more people. My list started out with about 14 couples and I ended up with about 20 guests. I will definetly over invite next year. Also, all my foods will be finger sized. A few desserts, I got lazy at the end and just made large versions. I think everyone would have enjoyed them more, in bite size portions. Otherwise, it all went very well. Thank you all for your help - until next Christmas Party......now what can I do for Valentines Day....hhhhmmmmm. Pamela From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Dec 27 07:26:39 1996 Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 05:44:17 -0800 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Knotts report Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Harry, I wonder if we set up the date and stuff to have the group hit that area if Knotts Berry Farms would let us play for one night??? Just a idea but it would be fun to spend a night playing with them!! Do you by any chance know who we would get hold of for this idea!! Who knows stranger things have happened!! Kathy the new kid on the crypt mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Dec 27 07:31:59 1996 Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 05:49:34 -0800 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com