From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Thu Mar 13 10:45:41 1997 Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 12:22:18 -0600 (CST) From: Matthew L Garza To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Halloween Carnival Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com On Sat, 22 Feb 1997, Michael Marcrum wrote: > Hi Matt, > There is a great site on the web called "Halloween Alley"!! It is all > about a group that does just what you are planning!! Here is the URL > check it out and see if it is any help!! > hppt://www.planet.eon.net/~hearse/halloween_alley.html > > At first our neighbors thought we were crazy, now they all want to know > what we are going to do every year!! > Kathy > the new kid on the crypt > mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com > Great! Thanks! I'll run and check it out! matt From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Thu Mar 13 11:01:00 1997 Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 10:47:18 -0800 From: david c schwend To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Digital Voice Announcers Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com David Zinkus wrote: > > Keep in mind that the telco industry DANN machines will operate off of a > -48VDC power source. The Viking unit I described can be powered from -48 VDC or from a "Wall Wart" AC adaptor. There are also inexpensive -48 VDC power supplies available, as surplus, should anyone want to use one power supply for many devices. Time and fidelity are limited by available memory in all solid state recorder/players. The more memory, the higher the cost. From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Thu Mar 13 13:18:31 1997 Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 15:57:36 -0500 From: ROGER ALEXANDER To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: NON-DELIVERY of: NON-DELIVERY of: Re: Re[2]: animatronics... -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com You know, this is starting to get a little annoying! May have to set an autodelete rule... :( --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Roger Alexander Phone: 812-854-4748 Naval Surface Warfare Center Fax: 812-854-5657 Bldg 64 Code 111RA Crane, IN 47522 INTERNET: alexander_r@crane.navy.mil Supporting the Fleet through Supply! From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Thu Mar 13 13:21:12 1997 From: allconen@btigate.com Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 14:13:03 -0800 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Computer Driven Effects Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com John P. Jeffries wrote: > > Since you are just gathering info, I would suggest going with Animitronics > that use Air or motors, with simple movements.. I hadn't actually thought of animatronics as a use here--thanks! I was more or less looking at controlling the ambience--automated lighting, sound effects, maybe even a fogger. I had figured to have one volunteer steer the computer at all times to keep little (and big) fingers out of the proverbial pie. I'm not sure how any of this works or if there is an easier way to automate the "mood" stuff; just thought the computer as a central "brain" might do the trick. Thanks for the input--I need as much as I can get. It looks like I'm already behind in my planning compared with a lot of folks on the list. Debbie From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Thu Mar 13 13:21:49 1997 Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 16:09:50 -0500 From: ROGER ALEXANDER To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: digital sampler -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com >>> 3/13/97 1:23 am >>> possibly the best bet I think would be sound sampling into a mass EPROM circuit and strobing it out./ Record the sound sample using a WAV method, not the PCM method. Burn the sample into an EPROM. The circuit used will count the addresses sequentially upwards. The data outputs go to a D/A convertor, either a chip or resistors. Amplify the results. It works well at my job (arcade game design).... Harry "let's go!" Traver <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *runs screaming from the room* Ok! I'm a computer network specialist and know computers but when it comes to electronics and doing a board with soldering iron, I'm lost! Could someone *puh-leeze* give out instructions for making this type of circuit that even a total electronic dummy like myself can build one? I do know the right end of a soldering iron and done household wiring without burning down the house, but solid state components lose me! Transistors, capacitors, D/A converters, transf... epom... *whimper* *help?* Computers: I can program'em, I can build'em from parts, but making the parts from scratch, that's a different story! --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Roger Alexander Phone: 812-854-4748 Naval Surface Warfare Center Fax: 812-854-3508 Bldg 64 Code 111RA Crane, IN 47522 INTERNET: rda413@smtp.nwscc.sea06.navy.mil Supporting the Fleet through Supply! From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Thu Mar 13 13:24:34 1997 Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 15:56:10 -0500 From: ROGER ALEXANDER To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: homepage URL's -Reply -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com >>> Michael Marcrum 2/22/97 9:41 am >>> OK Roger, so where is your URL???? Kathy the new kid on the crypt mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< My personal one? *sigh* Sadly, I do not have one as of yet. I am trying to get the wife convinced the $20 a month is a good investment for Internet access from home. From there I can set one up. Don't have time here at work. Course, if you want that, it's www.crane.navy.mil. But who cares about a Navy web page, eh? ;) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Roger Alexander Phone: 812-854-4748 Naval Surface Warfare Center Fax: 812-854-5657 Bldg 64 Code 111RA Crane, IN 47522 INTERNET: alexander_r@crane.navy.mil Supporting the Fleet through Supply! From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Thu Mar 13 13:46:08 1997 Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 17:08:04 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: "John P. Jeffries" Subject: Re: homepage URL's -Reply -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com (snip) > >Course, if you want that, it's www.crane.navy.mil. But who cares about a Navy web page, eh? ;) > There are a few of us "salts" out here ;) John ********************************* * Mr.Scary Productions * * http://www.mrscary.com * * E-mail: mrscary@kiva.net * * 1-812-824-8935 * * FAX: 1-812-824-9960 * ********************************* From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Thu Mar 13 16:44:30 1997 Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 16:34:05 -0800 From: david c schwend To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Computer Driven Effects Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com > I'm not sure how any of this works or if there is an > easier way to automate the "mood" stuff; just thought the computer > as a central "brain" might do the trick. You might want to look over some of these Home Automation links. There are several computer control interfaces for X-10 products that control lights, motors and dry contacts. Some even allow timed macros (If this, then do this, then this, then this, etc). Your guide can even carry a wireless controller to initiate the macros, one at a time, as the tour enters each room. X-10 devices communicate over the house powerlines so you can communicate with any outlet or light fixture in your house. Devices made by others that "speak X-10" include IR motion detectors and sprinkler controllers. Radio Shack has a few of the more common modules for sale under their brand name. Enhancing Your Lifestyle with Home Automation http://www.electronichouse.com/ Home Automation for Do-It-Yourselfers http://www.pophome.com/ Home Automation Product Guide http://www.asihome.com/guide.html Home Automation Systems http://smarthome.com/smarthome/hajump.htm Home Automator Newsletter Home Page http://www.automator.com/ X-10 Home Page http://www.x10.com/ From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Thu Mar 13 17:38:05 1997 Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 19:40:18 -0600 (CST) From: John Dolan To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: digital sampler Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com To Jerry and anyone else that is interested: I think I have a source for the type of unit you are looking for. It is called a DS-1 Digital Sound Box made by a St. Louis group called Haunted Lighting & F/X (Ph.# 1-800-570-3665).The unit is apparently capable of storing anywhere from 20 sec-3min of sound effects digitally.The cost is listed at $129.00 and is compatible with a motion detector.They make these specifically for Haunts. I have never bought anything from this group so I can't tell about their gaurantees/service etc.I just picked up some of their literat- ure at last years show.Anybody out there ever buy anything from these people? JD jdolan@titan.iwu.edu From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Thu Mar 13 17:59:09 1997 Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 19:59:18 -0600 (CST) From: John Dolan To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: digital sampler -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com On Thu, 13 Mar 1997, ROGER ALEXANDER wrote: > AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *runs screaming from the room* > > Ok! I'm a computer network specialist and know computers but when it comes to electronics and > doing a board with soldering iron, I'm lost! Could someone *puh-leeze* give out instructions for > making this type of circuit that even a total electronic dummy like myself can build one? I do know > the right end of a soldering iron and done household wiring without burning down the house, but solid > state components lose me! Transistors, capacitors, D/A converters, transf... epom... *whimper* > > *help?* > > Computers: I can program'em, I can build'em from parts, but making the parts from scratch, that's a > different story! Like Roger I'm also what you might politely call"electronically-challeged" Can any of the experienced members of this list recommend a good book for beginners on this subject (is there a "Electronics for Dummies?").Any advice would be greatly appreciated. JD jdolan@titan.iwu.edu From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Thu Mar 13 18:24:14 1997 Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 20:16:14 -0600 (CST) From: John Dolan To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Re[2]: animatronics Teddy Scare Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com As I mentioned in my last post I know nothing about electronics so this question/suggestion might be way off.Could a color organ be used to sychronize a servo that would be used to control the jaw movements in a skull prop? JD jdolan@titan.iwu.edu From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Thu Mar 13 20:38:29 1997 Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 20:31:40 -0800 (PST) From: Don Bertino To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Could we get "Wayne Haas AT NOTES" off the list? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com On Thu, 13 Mar 1997, Jason R wrote: x > >As of now, it looks pretty good. Thanks again and see you in one week. > > He only checks his E-mail weekly?. Heh heh heh.... No, I'm going to Chiago and I'll see everyone there... Yahoooo!!!!!! :) > Boy that's at least 200 Messages to go thur each week.. Don we salute you!. I get that everyday..... and it is too much. don bertino@netcom.com ____/^\_____________________________________ Disney ascii art & / \ || FDC MCP || / \ animations are at <______\ [] [] [] || [] [] [] || [] [] [] /______> http://www.calweb.com \----------------||----------||----------------/=== /~bertino===============\______________||__________||______________/===== From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Thu Mar 13 21:13:10 1997 Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 00:07:34 -0500 From: Allan Clifford To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Motion Detectors Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hello Gang! I need some options on using motion detectors outdoors! I use about 20 of them for different scenes and I am wanting to upgrade them this year! Last year we used the Walmart specials (about $30 each) and they didn't last and were VERY unreliable, I guess you get what you pay for. Since I need so many I tryed the cheapest route! Does anyone have any suggestions? Also, any ideals on setting up fog machines on motion detectors? Thanks, Allan aclifford@ntr.net From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 14 00:11:13 1997 Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 02:01:14 -0600 From: CHANCE NEWMAN <"chancefx@flash.net"@flash.net> To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Blood Red Fluorescent Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com milwiron@btprod.com wrote: > > At 02:07 PM 3/3/97 -0800, you wrote: > >milwiron@btprod.com wrote: > >> > >> At 09:52 AM 3/3/97 -0700, you wrote: > >> >Denny: > >> >------------------------------ > >> >>Hi Kathy, > >> >>Where ya been? I've got some U/V fluorescent water dye I'm going to > send you > >> >>to play with. > >> > > >> >Would you have anything that glows "blood red" under the blacklite? > >> > > >> >Jim Kadel (jimk@rica.net) > > Just wanted to add- > In my other posts I mentioned "I've never seen a blood red UV dye". That in > no way means it doesn't exist, only that I've never run across it in my > limited experiences. Hopefully it's available, it would make many on this > list happy campers. > Denny > > B.T. Productions' Terror By Design > Haunt Supplies & Scare Wares > From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 14 01:10:56 1997 Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 03:02:01 -0600 From: CHANCE NEWMAN <"chancefx@flash.net"@flash.net> To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: power supplies was Re: animatronics Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Nick Gloor wrote: > > >On Sun, 9 Mar 1997 Spookyfx@aol.com wrote: > > > >Anything from about 12v-3.5v DC can be easily made by adding a transformer > >which can be found at your local Radio Shack. > > > > Having built a few linear power supplies I am tending in the direction of > buying wall warts for the low voltage/current stuff. You can get them in all > the common combinations and some unusual ones as well if you look at a supplier > like Jameco or Digikey. They tend to be ul/csa approved which makes me happier > when using them. They don't toast the furniture if you dropped a decimal point > and perhaps most importantly the people who build them make so many there > is no way I can custom build one for the same price I can buy one, its also > in a tidy little case which keeps curious little fingers out... > > >If the transformer does not drop > >the voltage enough adding some series resistors should do the trick. > > I tried this once with a supply I built for a guitar amplifier. It seems > resistors don't work once you let all the smoke out of them. This comes > from being in a hurry, and futzing the calculations. > > >The > >nice about running an AC circuit through a transformer is that you don't > >have to worry about checking and replacing batteries. > > I like the isolation from the power mains as well. One thing to consider > when starting to use AC power to run things where people might get into it > is to add > GFI (ground fault interuptors) outlets to the setup. > > Nick Gloor > njg@cc.umanitoba.ca From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 14 05:05:17 1997 Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 08:00:41 +0000 From: Cliff Martin To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: digital sampler Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com John Dolan wrote: > >... I think I have a source for the type of unit you are looking for. > It is called a DS-1 Digital Sound Box made by a St. Louis group > called Haunted Lighting & F/X >....Anybody out there ever buy anything from these people? I tried to order one of their 'bodies' last year - for about 2-2.5 months... I called many, many times. Each time I got "It's being shipped tomorrow/thurs/fri", etc.... I NEVER got the product! This was probably the most annoying, irritating, frustrating experience - I really needed that body for the haunt. (BTW..I ended up using a live one - much fresher) So, I can only assume - if you want something from these guys, order *very* early. Cliff cliff.martin@saralee.net From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 14 05:28:36 1997 From: Peepley@aol.com Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 08:16:41 -0500 (EST) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: digital sampler Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com To JDOLAN - Are you located in Bloomington Illinois? I am the mayor of Downs and a head honcho for our annual haunted house. This year HAUNTED HOUSE 5. Give me a mail and let me know. jas From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 14 05:33:39 1997 From: Spookyfx@aol.com Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 08:30:31 -0500 (EST) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Motion Detectors Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com In a message dated 97-03-14 00:12:41 EST, you write: << Hello Gang! I need some options on using motion detectors outdoors! I use about 20 of them for different scenes and I am wanting to upgrade them this year! Last year we used the Walmart specials (about $30 each) and they didn't last and were VERY unreliable, I guess you get what you pay for. Since I need so many I tryed the cheapest route! Does anyone have any suggestions? >> ------------------------------------ $30 each!! The you have to shop around more... a chain of hardware stores out here called "Home Depot" sells $7. AC PIR detectors for turning on flood lights. Thay can be adapted with relays or just used as is for lights. I have never had a problem with these cheap ones, but thay are cheap enoph to buy emergency back up spares... -jerry From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 14 06:43:28 1997 Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 09:31:57 +0000 From: Cliff Martin To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Motion Detectors Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Allan wrote: > > I need some options on using motion detectors outdoors! Ive used some infrared outdoor units made by Heath/Zenith for several years with good success (I think Home Depot still has them). They make an all-in-one unit and a two-piece unit. I like the two-piece units best. They're made for front door porch lights, with the sensor head seperated from the relay unit by a 1'-2' cord. The smaller size makes them easier to locate. The oldest ones have survived for several years (I have 5 of them). >...were VERY unreliable... Ive had intermittent problems with infrared units, too. I've found they need a fairly large differential in temperature to work reliably. They sense the movement of heat and can't "look" towards any lights (i.e., heat sources) at all. Most units have a 110 degree sensing angle, so this really limits their placement. I've tried 'masking' the sensor face with opaque tape to limit the angle with good success. Apparently, the sensor needs to 'see' heat movement go across at least four of those little lenses on the face to trigger. Also, the sensitivity setting has a major effect on triggering reliability/stability. I tried a microwave sensor just this year, and it seems to work *far* more reliably, and is unaffected by lighting. But they are MUCH more expensive...sigh... I haven't tried one of those infrared beam sensors - break the beam, set off the alarm, etc. That might work better... > > Also, any ideals on setting up fog machines on motion detectors? > I tried triggering fog machines, too. The big problem (I found) is they need warm-up time. Their heaters need to get to temperature before any fogging starts at all. ->[and to respond to Debbie's request] I use one of those X-10 wireless units to trigger my fog machine manually. To trigger it automatically (Im guessing here), you would need to place the sensor far enough ahead to allow for warmup, and set the delay time long enough to allow the fog unit to produce enough fog for the display area. BTW - Who's going to the Halloween show? Ive just got everything together (finally!), and I'd like to meet-up with everyone! (Im going to the show Fri-Sat, and staying at the Rosemont Howard Johnsons Fri night) Rambling thoughts on a Friday morning, Cliff cliff.martin@saralee.net From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 14 06:50:16 1997 Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 17:30:28 -0800 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: homepage URL's Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Sheri, I like your homepage!! I am very into holidays so I think that is great!! do you change the first page for every holiday??? that gives me ideas!!!!! Thanks!! Kathy the new kid on the crypt mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 14 07:07:40 1997 From: htraver@dreamsys.com Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 06:48:12 -0700 Subject: Re: digital sampler To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Cliff, try your smaller dealers. The bigger ones seem to be too busy servicing their major clients than providing for our needs. I would recommend Denny/Terror By Design who is on here. I have ordered several things from him, and they always come through on time. Granted I am not ordering during the season, but he is also a heck of a good guy. during the season, I would expect some delays with a large amount of orders, but it would be nothing like the experience you describe. Waiting for MrScary's catalog to come in, both are helluva great guys to talk to. Once I begin ordering from him, I can vouchsafe how he is. I would consider the larger places like Fry's, a chain of computer stores out here. Sure, if you know exactly what you want, then their prices will be lower at times. but God help you if you EVER have a question on something you are buying. The place is literally a supermarket. They sell many computers, but none of their people can give you a recommendation or even answer ANY questions about their product. The smaller dealer gives a much more personal, friendly touch. He will be cognizant of your needs more. I had told Denny of my needs and he commended a product. A book that was expensive, but it turned out to be worth every single penny I paid for it. The bigger chains won't carry that sort of book. They would have a "consultant" on staff who you pay for the same sort of advice! Besides, have you ever seen ANY of the larger suppliers as regular contributors on the list? It is too much beneath them to show their faces. They are too busy massaging their larger account clients and worrying and the tradeshow and shipping to deal with the likes of us. TRY and talk to these sort of dealers at the trade show. I'd be willing to bet that the very first thing out of their mouth will be of how large is your haunt, and unit sales. If you are doing a yard haunt or a homemade haunted house, they will turn you away for more important clients. You tell me what kind of dealer you want to deal with. Harry [ Sent From: Dreamscape Systems - dreamsys.com ] [ Location: Van Nuys, CA - (818) 781-7529 ] From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 14 08:00:40 1997 Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 18:25:55 -0800 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Halloween Carnival Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Matt, PLease change the first part of that URL to http!!! As you can see I was not really good at typing the letters in proper order!!! Enjoy! I hope it helps. Kathy the new kid on the crypt mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 14 08:27:50 1997 Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 19:11:50 -0800 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Motion Detectors Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hi Ghouls, We used a $9 version from Freidman Bros. last year and they worked great! Hubby set them on test mode so when they came on they only kept the light or whatever on for 3-5 seconds. I am not sure but I don't think it is easy to put a sensor to the fog machine. It has to heat up and have the button pushed to send the fog out...but I am a techno dummy and I don't know much in the tech dept!! Kathy the new kid on the crypt mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 14 08:54:31 1997 Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 11:40:37 +0000 From: Cliff Martin To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Digital Voice Announcers Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Spookyfx@aol.com wrote: > > I have also finally located a museum display company. If I get good feed back from them, would you like the info? Yes! (when in doubt, contribute!) Thanks, Cliff cliff.martin@saralee.net From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 14 09:15:32 1997 Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 12:12:58 -0400 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Jason R Subject: Re: Could we get "Wayne Haas AT NOTES" off the list? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com >> Boy that's at least 200 Messages to go thur each week.. Don we salute you!. > >I get that everyday..... > >and it is too much. > >don Don, ever heard of Eudora?. It has a thing called "Filters" it lets you Filter your mail.. It works wonder's. I wouldnt trade my copy for ANYTHING.. Okay, maybe a job at WDW, well maybe even just a lifetime pass to WDW.. Heck, just send me a picture of Mickey!. Jay ------------------------------------------------------------- -- Jason Roland- Yes, I support Mac's!. -- -- Member FDC {Beach Club lighting tech} -- -- Webmaster of the VRC Homepage. All Disney, all the time. -- -- Http://www.vivanet.com/~thelazer -- -- "I told'em the truth, and they fell for it"-Harry Anderson -- ------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 14 09:58:12 1997 From: milwiron@btprod.com Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 11:44:28 -0600 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: digital sampler Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 06:48 AM 3/14/97 -0700, you wrote: > >Cliff, try your smaller dealers. The bigger ones seem to be too busy >servicing their major clients than providing for our needs. I would >recommend Denny/Terror By Design... Thanks Tony, I've forwarded your message to my parole officer. ;) Denny B.T. Productions' Terror By Design Haunt Supplies & Scare Wares From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 14 10:10:21 1997 Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 10:03:01 -0800 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Greg Hope Subject: Animatronics Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com I just stumbled onto a link to plans someone made up to control a Radio Shack Armatron from a parallel port. It's Greek to me, but someone with more electronic experience might find this of interest. Enjoy. http://www.cs.uwa.edu.au/~mafm/robot/centronics-to-armatron.html Greg T (619) 945-4424 F (619) 726-2804 E ghope@mailhost1.csusm.edu From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 14 10:24:12 1997 Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 13:20:50 +0000 From: Cliff Martin To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: digital sampler Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com htraver@dreamsys.com wrote: > > ...try your smaller dealers. The bigger ones seem to be too busy > servicing their major clients than providing for our needs. Its a sad fact, Harry, but too often true.. >...I would recommend Denny/Terror By Design who is on here. Yes, Mee Too! > ....You tell me what kind of dealer you want to deal with. ..aaahhh..., hmmmm..., uhhh..., Denny? ;-} Harry is absolutely right! we are living in a time where customer service is optional - and Im very glad folks like Denny, John, Steve and Nathan are out there. I wanted to point out just that fact replying to the post about St.Louis-HauntedSupply. That one experience was the last time I have (or probably ever will) deal with them (never say never). Im going to be rather 'expressive' about this topic at the Halloween show, out in the aisle, right in front of their booth! I think that (especially here) word of mouth recommendation is the best possible way to ensure that customers will get real, valuable service with their purchase, and the dealers providing that service will be around! JMHO, Cliff cliff.martin@saralee.net Know Fear! From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 14 11:41:15 1997 Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 13:27:36 -0600 From: David Kiihne To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Animatronics -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com >>> Greg Hope 03/14/97 12:03pm >>> > I just stumbled onto a link to plans someone made up to control a > Radio Shack Armatron from a parallel port. It's Greek to me, but > someone with more electronic experience might find this of > interest. Enjoy. > http://www.cs.uwa.edu.au/~mafm/robot/centronics-to-armatron.html I'm not an electronics-type person, but as a software engineer who works primarily in C and C++, I found this quite interesting. Thanks for the pointer. (Computer nerd humor... Sorry) Dave - daveki@nebfef.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 14 14:18:09 1997 Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 13:18:42 -0800 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Greg Hope Subject: Re: Animatronics -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com It's Greek to me, but someone with more electronic experience might find this of interest. Enjoy. http://www.cs.uwa.edu.au/~mafm/robot/centronics-to-armatron.html I'm not an electronics-type person, but as a software engineer who works primarily in C and C++, I found this quite interesting. Thanks for the pointer. (Computer nerd humor... Sorry) Dave - daveki@nebfef.com I know I should simply check the archives, but are there any primers out there for the electronically challenged? Any step-by-step projects for the electronically illiterate? If you're listening, Doug, did you have any plans for including electroning fundamentals at Phanmech, or are you sticking to the mechanical end of things? Maybe someone in the group can put together some kind of "electronics for dummies" page. Greg (who wonders if solid state is what comes after liquid and gaseous state) T (619) 945-4424 F (619) 726-2804 E ghope@mailhost1.csusm.edu From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 14 18:08:00 1997 From: htraver@dreamsys.com Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 17:57:06 -0700 Subject: Re: digital sampler To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Be careful about being vocal in front of their booth, Cliff. big companies pay big money for big muscle to prevent such annoyances at trade shows... Harry "can't wait for Superman tomorrow! Yipee!!!" Traver [ Sent From: Dreamscape Systems - dreamsys.com ] [ Location: Van Nuys, CA - (818) 781-7529 ] From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 14 18:12:35 1997 Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 21:36:25 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: "John P. Jeffries" Subject: Re: digital sampler-banter Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 05:57 PM 3/14/97 -0700, you wrote: > >Be careful about being vocal in front of their booth, Cliff. big >companies pay big money for big muscle to prevent such annoyances at >trade shows... > Remember the Daffy cartoon: "Duhhh, my name's Cloie...Wana wrasle?" And Bugs: "Hassannnnn....CHOP!" John ********************************* * Mr.Scary Productions * * http://www.mrscary.com * * E-mail: mrscary@kiva.net * * 1-812-824-8935 * * FAX: 1-812-824-9960 * ********************************* From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 14 22:07:10 1997 Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 00:10:14 -0600 (CST) From: John Dolan To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Service (was digital sampler) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com On Fri, 14 Mar 1997 htraver@dreamsys.com wrote: > (snip) > > The smaller dealer gives a much more personal, friendly touch. He will > be cognizant of your needs more. I had told Denny of my needs and he > commended a product. A book that was expensive, but it turned out to be > worth every single penny I paid for it. The bigger chains won't carry > that sort of book. They would have a "consultant" on staff who you pay > for the same sort of advice! Besides, have you ever seen ANY of the > larger suppliers as regular contributors on the list? It is too much > beneath them to show their faces. They are too busy massaging their > larger account clients and worrying and the tradeshow and shipping to > deal with the likes of us. TRY and talk to these sort of dealers at the > trade show. I'd be willing to bet that the very first thing out of their > mouth will be of how large is your haunt, and unit sales. If you are > doing a yard haunt or a homemade haunted house, they will turn you away > for more important clients. > Well, yes and no.First of all their is no excuse for poor customer service. If any reputable dealer (large or small) runs into a problem filling a customers order it is their obligation to notify the customer.The customer shouldn't have to continually inquire on the status of their order.This is simply bad business.If Haunted Lighting treats many of their customers in the same manner they treated Cliff they shouldn't expect to gain much business. I'm not exactly sure what you mean by the "large chains" and consultant references.The only large chains I know of are the retailers that sell Halloween supplies (Spencers,etc.).These chains don't carry such books as you mention because there isn't a very big market for them.There are also some "haunted consultants" out there but to my knowledge none are affliated with any retail outlets. In regards to the trade show, most of the very large dealers are whole- sale distributors.And yes, they may ask you how large your haunt is, if you are seeking information on purchasing items directly from them.How- ever this is only out of fairness on their part.The wholesalers have a responsibilty to the retailers that carry their product.It wouldn't be fair to the retailers (such as Denny,John, et.al) if the wholesalers sold their product to anyone at the wholesale price.I've found that most of the wholesalers are willing to discuss the products they make with anyone (whether your a commercial or yard haunter).They are there to represent their products and can answer questions that retailers might not normally have the answer to (manufacturing process,etc.).They know that by convincing you that they have a good product they will increase their sales volume (via their retailers).The wholesalers may sell to a very large haunt directly but only if they feel it won't intrude on the retail market."Knotts Haunt" may purchase more products from a wholesaler than an entire retail store might. There are small retailers at the show and the reason they are there is to show the products that have a limited market (i.e. those geared specific- ally toward haunts).These are products that the Halloween retailers would- n't normally carry.They won't care how large or small you are because they don't have any obligation to a retailer, they just want customers. Now both John and Denny to my knowledge would actually fall into both catagories, they are retailers of some products and manufacturers of others.They run businesses that didn't exist a few years ago.Products that are geared toward "haunters" (whether it be a yard haunt or a large commercial haunt).Their services provide a welcome relief to anyone who may need products/info on their haunts.They also provide excellent custom- er service I might add. JD jdolan@titan.iwu.edu From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Mar 15 02:51:20 1997 Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 02:45:47 -0800 From: Brian Rich To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: animatronics Teddy Scare Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com John Dolan wrote: > > As I mentioned in my last post I know nothing about electronics so this > question/suggestion might be way off.Could a color organ be used to > sychronize a servo that would be used to control the jaw movements in > a skull prop? > JD > jdolan@titan.iwu.edu My guess is that there would be some parts of the circuit you would bypass. Instead of the filter circuit triggering an SCR, you would develop a control voltage and feed that to a servo. -- Brian Wesley Rich ------------------------------------------------- Visit my amateur science page. Chemicals, sample experiments, and good ideas! http://www.west.net/~science/ From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Mar 15 02:59:30 1997 Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 02:49:07 -0800 From: Brian Rich To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Motion Detectors Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Allan Clifford wrote: > > Hello Gang! > > I need some options on using motion detectors outdoors! I use about 20 > of them for different scenes and I am wanting to upgrade them this year! > Last year we used the Walmart specials (about $30 each) and they didn't > last and were VERY unreliable, I guess you get what you pay for. Since I > need so many I tryed the cheapest route! Does anyone have any > suggestions? > > Also, any ideals on setting up fog machines on motion detectors? > > Thanks, > > Allan > aclifford@ntr.net Has anyone tried floormat switches for this application? I believe Grainger sells 'em... -- Brian Wesley Rich ------------------------------------------------- Visit my amateur science page. Chemicals, sample experiments, and good ideas! http://www.west.net/~science/ From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Mar 15 13:00:24 1997 Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 12:54:48 -0500 From: Brer Bear To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Animatronics Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Helloooooo weenies! I have finally found my way to the list, and wanted to not only introduce myself, but also ask a few questions (okay, so who's counting?) and tap into the vast resource of your collective years of haunting. In truth I am what you could consider new to haunting. I may be 39, but haven't been able to be a part of halloween festivities untill last year. Our house turned out to be a real hit, and our costumes were also. However, I would like to do something much more outrageous this year, and have been working on the layout of this since last halloween. This is where your collective knowlege comes in. I need help animating my monsters. My werewolf just hangs there from a noose, bloody. I would like him to hiss warnings to my trick or treators, and perhaps his eyes could light up and glow red. I would like the warning to be motion-detect activated, as well as the eyes. Any ideas? I also would like to give some life to a life-sized satan-demon that will be guarding the entrance to my cave that leads up to the front door. He will be essentially lifeless without something to liven him up. This would be a cool item to play with, but I don't know where to access the items neccessary for this. I have a satan mask that has moving jaws, so if I found mechanized jaws for speaking, the mask would follow in animation. Any input? The DJ fogger I bought has its own pump, so I don't have to attach a separate blower to get the fog through tubing. What I would like to do with this is shoot fog out at the base of my front door, across the feet of the trick or treators (I answer the door in full Death-Lord regalia and hand out candy with a bloody chopped-off arm--ala "The Hand") and also follow a pvc pipe out to the front of my house 25 feet away to flow out the mouth and nostrils of a giant back-lit "skull" painted on a visqueen (s?) background in front of my garage opening. Do you think this will work? Also, has anyone out there got any ideas that would be more "grandios" than this for the garage of a house? I would like to make the entire front of my house an animated skull if I could figure this out, but so far, you've heard my best idea. I have read all of the archives on Betino's site, and am interested in the Axworthy Flying Ghost. Does anyone have any hot setups for making this easily? So far, I am still a bit unsure as to how this is supposed to look. If anyone has a picture of the finished product, or the parts of this, I would very much be interested in seeing them. The halloween store just 5 miles north of Disneyland didn't have a line in on VHS videos of halloween decorated homes, but they had heard of one. Have any of you seen this video? Or are there more than one of these? At any rate, does anyone know how to find one? I would love to get some hot ideas from the dedicated terror-mongers that I know exist in the larger cities such as L.A. and Hollywood. Last! I would love to visit home pages or archives of photos of haunts that could give me some really good ideas. I have spent weeks visiting the larger, easily-found haunts on the net so far, but haven't really come up with a lot of good, practical ideas for a personal haunt for halloween. I am buying an air compressor to do the "pop-up ghost" bit, but so far am very lost on how to automate this. I heard of using the dishwasher selenoid to operate the air flow, but truthfully, I still don't clearly understand the execution of this--(couldn't you just DIE from the underlying humor?) Does anyone have a hand-drawen diagram or photo of the air-operated "pop-up ghosts", "coffin-door-opener" and such? Or any info on how to execute (cool word huh?) the use of these through motion-detection? I would like momentary switching automated to these selenoids if possible, so that the unit works once upone tripping, not continuosly as long as the person stands there. Well, I better go before this becomes "War And Peace Volume Two", but you can bet I'll be asking a HELL of a lot more (just gets you in the mood for halloween, doesn't it? :~0 )questions in the near future! Happy haunting! Wil From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Mar 15 13:08:24 1997 Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 12:57:16 -0800 From: david c schwend To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: digital sampler -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com John Dolan wrote: > Can any of the experienced members of this list recommend a good book > for beginners on this subject (is there an Electronics for > Dummies?"). Any advice would be greatly appreciated. > JD Texas Instruments published a series of books titled "Understanding ..." The topics included basic solid state electronics, electricity, digital electronics, DC power, computer systems, etc. Radio Shark may have purchased the rights to these books since I last ran across them reprinted with Radio Shark covers. Used book stores with technical book sections often have a few of these titles on the shelves. they are all soft cover. Tab and Sams have, over the years, published many how to project books. Check out the used book stores. From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Mar 15 17:58:42 1997 From: Spookyfx@aol.com Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 19:16:56 -0500 (EST) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: sound to motion GIF (if you have a mac email me again please) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hi all I finally have the AC sound to motion schematic (GIF) on my web page, BUT.... It is a design I extrapolated from a more complicated circuit. I had never actual built the circuit because I could always find the dancing toy circuit at thrift store and novelette shops. I would simply add a relay to the contacts that would normally go to the motor. I Made and kept the AC sound to motion circuit in case I could not find the “toy” when I needed It. As I drew up the schematic in cadd ( it was a quickie so please excuse the crude layout ) I got curious about building it for real. Well it did not work! I don’t know yet if it is my design or I screwed up in the assembly phase. I am posting it on my web site (hidden at the bottom as I said I would in a earlier post, click on the littel face :-> ) and hopefully someone on the list can make it work. I am still trying myself, but if someone can find a engineering error on my schematic PLEASE tell me and I will correct the drawing and re-post it for everyone else. Here is a description of what is suppose to happen in the circuit: The circuit is based on a passive approach of capacitors and resistor for timing. An 8-ohm to 1-k transformer is used as an input source for incoming sounds. The 5-k pot controls the sensitivity to these sounds. The 47 200-volt capacitor determine what tones the circuit will respond to. The 47 capacitor looks for mid tones (vocal). ( Use 200 volt or more capacitors when handling AC current! ) When the sounds are detected the SCR ( 4 amp or more, general purpose SCR) switches on and off. The 120v-12.6v 300ma transformer reduces the output of the SCR. Pulses from the transfomer are half-wave rectified and charge a 47 uF capacitor. A pair of diodes isolate the capacitor. The uF capacitor triggers the solid state relay. The relay of coarse can than be used to control motors, lights, even other sounds for building a “logic” circuit. (Great if it had worked. I am sure it is a simple (stupid) error in the design. Can anyone figure this out? Yours ghouly Jerry - @ --'---,--',---@ --'---,--',---@ --'---,--',---@ --'---,--',---@ ^v^ Esoteric Toys ^v^ (No one ever got anywhere by being NORMAL!) Web page: http://members.aol.com/Spookyfx/index.html @ --'---,--',---@ --'---,--',---@ --'---,--',---@ --'---,--',---@ From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Mar 15 17:58:43 1997 Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 19:55:46 -0600 (CST) From: John Dolan To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Animatronics-reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Wil, here are some sites that may have some answers to your questions: Home Haunts: (did you see the pictures of the home haunts on Don's page a.k.a. the archives?).Here's another: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/2007/haunts.html For help on lighting the eyes of your hissing werewolf check out the electrical diagram on Doug's "Flying Crank Ghost".You can find this in the archives or at Doug's site: http://members.aol.com/phanmech/index.html (You can also find pictures of air/solenoid set up under "Trash Can Trauma" at these two sites) For pictures of a completed "Axworthy Flying Ghost" check our Bob Andrews homepage at: http://www.anaserve.com/~BoBandrews Bob also has pictures of his home haunt on this site with a cemetary set that beats just about any commercial haunt I've seen. As for your mechanized jaws question,that is part of a current thread that was started earlier in the week so stay tuned. Hope this is enough to get you started. JD jdolan@titan.iwu.edu ps- thanks David for the tips on the electronic books From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Mar 15 19:23:48 1997 Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 19:07:08 -0800 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Robert Bradvica Subject: Haunted Attraction Magazine Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com I just received my sample copy of Haunted Attraction Magazine today, and it is a great piece of work. Nice articles, great ads, even a piece by our own Doug Ferguson. Nice job Oliver. Thanks for the sample. Robert rbradvica@themall.net From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Mar 15 20:13:29 1997 Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 23:27:57 +0100 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: archival@li.com (kate carr/marc lougee) Subject: Re: animatronics Teddy Scare Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com >John Dolan wrote: >> >> As I mentioned in my last post I know nothing about electronics so this >> question/suggestion might be way off.Could a color organ be used to >> sychronize a servo that would be used to control the jaw movements in >> a skull prop? >> JD >> jdolan@titan.iwu.edu > >My guess is that there would be some parts of the circuit you would >bypass. Instead of the filter circuit triggering an SCR, you would >develop a control voltage and feed that to a servo. >-- >Brian Wesley Rich >------------------------------------------------- >Visit my amateur science page. >Chemicals, sample experiments, and good ideas! >http://www.west.net/~science/ J- I'm not a heavy hitter in the electronics dept. either, tho I know enough to make me dangerous... There is a "servo tester" driver card available from a few radio-control suppliers (check the rc mag's at the newstand, or e-mail me and I will dig up my source list). The driver cards are connected to a potentiometer which in turn controls the servo movement proportionately. This is a hardwire set-up, meaning basically you are connected directly from the potentiometer (voltage controller/ dimmer of sorts) to the driver card circuit and out to the servo itself (airplane type). The amount of proportional movement/ speed is directly related to the type of potentiometer used to control the servo, so once you have a driver card in hand, try experimenting with a few different pots with various trim settings-- a local RC Hobby shop can help with this, or look up a Radio Control plane/ car club... there is usually a resident rc control genius on hand to help out... Hope this wasn't completely confusing, and maybe even a little helpful--I've used this sort of "driver Card" in numerous RC controlled special effects puppet heads, "telemetry" suits (for lack of a better term), etc...A neat thing with the servos is that they can be "slaved" together, utilizing two of the same type of servo doing the same job-- this would enable you to move bigger jaws, etc. The type I mention here are the $17 specials, tho there are available much more sophisticated versions, with fairly precise control ability, running in the neighborhood of $85. I found the cheaper versions were fine for alot of applications, and with a good potentiometer were very handy. Marc Louge archival@l.i.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Mar 15 20:55:18 1997 From: matthew garza To: "'halloween-l@netcom.com'" Subject: RE: Halloween Carnival Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 22:38:29 -0500 Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com ------ =_NextPart_000_01BC3191.9B615F00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ---------- From: Michael Marcrum[SMTP:mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Sunday, February 23, 1997 9:25 PM To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Halloween Carnival Matt, PLease change the first part of that URL to http!!! As you can see I was not really good at typing the letters in proper order!!! Enjoy! I hope it helps. Kathy the new kid on the crypt mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com Yep! Got it! Thanks. I checked it out and it really has given me some = good ideas to get started with! 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Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com On Fri, 14 Mar 1997, Jason R wrote: > >> Boy that's at least 200 Messages to go thur each week.. Don we salute you!. > > > >I get that everyday..... > > > >and it is too much. > > > Don, ever heard of Eudora?. It has a thing called "Filters" it lets you > Filter your mail.. It works wonder's. I wouldnt trade my copy for > ANYTHING.. Okay, maybe a job at WDW, well maybe even just a lifetime pass > to WDW.. Heck, just send me a picture of Mickey!. I use procmail to filter all mail, it's still way too much. But thanks for suggestion. I just need to start unsubscribing to things.... :) don bertino@netcom.com ____/^\_____________________________________ Disney ascii art & / \ || FDC MCP || / \ animations are at <______\ [] [] [] || [] [] [] || [] [] [] /______> http://www.calweb.com \----------------||----------||----------------/=== /~bertino===============\______________||__________||______________/===== From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Mar 16 05:46:08 1997 Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 09:40:51 -0800 From: Dokktor To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Halloween Carnival Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Part 1.2 Type: application/ms-tnef Encoding: base64 I've got a question for everyone. I have received a message from the iist with an attached file. The writing and such looks in the download box looks like the above information. Netscape doesn't recognize ms-tnef so it doesn't know how to handle it. Any suggestions? From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Mar 16 07:49:53 1997 Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 07:44:34 -0800 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Greg Hope Subject: RE: Halloween Carnival Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hey, Matt, in your reply to Kathy there was a small attached file with the following name: RE Halloween Carnival1 We're all wondering if this is something fun we can look at. What is it? Greg T (619) 945-4424 F (619) 726-2804 E ghope@mailhost1.csusm.edu From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Mar 16 12:59:15 1997 Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 12:43:04 -0800 From: Spook To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Trade Show Meet - Final Call!!!! Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Good Afternoon, I'm putting together the final listing of those of us who are planning to meet at the Chicago Trade Show. If any of you newcomers didn't catch it, several of us are going to meet there. Let me know if you'd like to join in the fun. Also, for those of you who can't go... I'd be glad to pick-up any information I can if you have a certain "thing" you'd like to know about (for instance... the newest ground-fog machine, wall paneling, etc.) I can't make any guarantees, but I'll do the best I can. Mark Children of The Night From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Mar 16 13:33:48 1997 From: htraver@dreamsys.com Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 13:26:30 -0700 Subject: Trade Show Meet - Final Call!!!! To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Mark!!! Books!!! Music!!! Harry "if I can't find the music, I'll write my own!!!" Traver [ Sent From: Dreamscape Systems - dreamsys.com ] [ Location: Van Nuys, CA - (818) 781-7529 ] From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Mar 16 19:40:43 1997 From: SkinkSim@aol.com Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 22:30:48 -0500 (EST) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Trade Show Meet/ Booths Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Beyond attending, do any of "the regulars" have booths at the show? Denny, Mr. Scary, et al? From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Mar 16 20:19:14 1997 Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 20:14:37 -0800 From: Spook To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Trade Show Meet/ Booths Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com I work the Scarecrow booth. Mark From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Mar 17 04:32:34 1997 Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 07:31:05 +0000 From: Cliff Martin To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: digital sampler Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com htraver@dreamsys.com wrote: > ...big companies pay big money for big muscle to prevent such annoyances at trade shows... They can't even ship a body across three states - they can't be thaaat big... hmmm, what's that big car doing in my driveway? Cliff From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Mar 17 04:36:27 1997 Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 07:32:06 -0500 From: ROGER ALEXANDER To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: animatronics Teddy Scare -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com *snip* term), etc...A neat thing with the servos is that they can be "slaved" together, utilizing two of the same type of servo doing the same job-- this would enable you to move bigger jaws, etc. The type I mention here are the $17 specials, tho there are available much more sophisticated versions, with fairly precise control ability, running in the neighborhood of $85. I found the cheaper versions were fine for alot of applications, and with a good potentiometer were very handy. Marc Louge archival@l.i.com <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Gee! A subject I can jump in on! ;) Since I'm an old airplane R/Cer, I can throw something in here. Instead of tandem servos, there are also what we call in the hobby "giant scale" servos used for our "larger" planes (8 ft wings and bigger!). These are simply larger versions of the standard control server and have more power and torque for the larger control surfaces. They are more expensive, needless to say, but they help eliminate the extra hookup hardware and wiring and reduces mechanical complexity. (Good grief! I'm starting to sound like some of you other guys! :D ) These servos are available at any decent hobby store dealing with R/C equipment, or pick up a copy of R/C Modeler magazine and buy them mail order. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Roger Alexander Phone: 812-854-4748 Naval Surface Warfare Center Fax: 812-854-5657 Bldg 64 Code 111RA Crane, IN 47522 INTERNET: alexander_r@crane.navy.mil Supporting the Fleet through Supply! From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Mar 17 10:14:41 1997 Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 13:07:53 -0400 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Jason R Subject: Re: Trade Show Meet - Final Call!!!! Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com >Good Afternoon, > >I'm putting together the final listing of those of us who are planning >to meet at the Chicago Trade Show. If any of you newcomers didn't catch >it, several of us are going to meet there. Let me know if you'd like to >join in the fun. > >Also, for those of you who can't go... I'd be glad to pick-up any >information I can if you have a certain "thing" you'd like to know about >(for instance... the newest ground-fog machine, wall paneling, etc.) I >can't make any guarantees, but I'll do the best I can. > > Mark > Children of The Night Hi Mark, I cant get to the show. But if you could please look up some info on 2 things for me {If you get a chance} I would love it. 1. A Blacklight, that is Dimmable and Strobe's!. 2. A laser system, around 1000-2000 dollers, Hopefully Green colord, however Red is okay. If Amercan DJ supply is there, they have one of these that is Green. Please tell me how bright it is {I.E. is it bright enough to see in daylight..} Hope that isnt to much to ask. Thanks again Jay ------------------------------------------------------------- -- Jason Roland- Yes, I support Mac's!. -- -- Member FDC {Beach Club lighting tech} -- -- Webmaster of the VRC Homepage. All Disney, all the time. -- -- Http://www.vivanet.com/~thelazer -- -- "I told'em the truth, and they fell for it"-Harry Anderson -- ------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Mar 17 17:52:44 1997 Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 17:45:37 -0800 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Greg Hope Subject: Re: Cheap dungeon walls! Also, projectors, doors and Knotts Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 04:20 PM 3/4/97 +0000, you wrote: >Hi All! >Here's a great way to build durable, inexpensive rock or brick walls for >caverns or dungeons (my favorite places). Thanks and thanks again, Cliff. I'm gonna try my hand at this in weekend or two. Have you (or has anyone else) tried mixing some proportion of polystryrene beads into the plaster to add volume and cut weight? Does anyone know what a good price for these beads might be? The price I was given was $15 for a beanbag chair-sized bag. On another note, in my area (SoCal) a craft store named Michaels has chintzy projectors priced at $20 and is running a sale for 2 more days in which a coupon brings the price to $12. I tried one and it seems okay for a dim projection in a dark room. It's no wonder of the modern age, but what is nifty about it is that you can put almost anything in position beneath the mirror and project it (I sampled my car keys and a dead cricket). Seems like a fair rig for getting an image up onto a wall or ceiling, or down on the floor. I'll try it with a sheet of steam or humidifier vapor and report back. (Another possibility that comes to mind is a petri dish full of live bugs, as long as the heat from the bulb doesn't roast 'em!) Finally, does anyone have any experience with using doors (either swinging or rotating), moving walls or other effects to lengthen the walking circuit through a small HH? I'm toying with the idea and, so far, I've been able to extend the trip through my home HH by 1/3 using the above tricks. Of course, it's just on paper so far. I'll listen for comments before I start sawing lumber. Yo, Jeanni, Kathy, anyone! What's the latest on a group invasion of Knotts this year? Greg in Vista T (619) 945-4424 F (619) 726-2804 E ghope@mailhost1.csusm.edu From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Mar 17 18:29:04 1997 From: htraver@dreamsys.com Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 18:21:36 -0700 Subject: Re: Cheap dungeon walls! Also, projectors, doors a To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Greg, count me in for a Knotts invasion. When the schedule comes out, let's get it all going and with everyone in sight. I am inviting a friend form Florida, so I want him along with the group. We are planing two days worth. It lets us see so much more of everything. Even $50 is worth for all the haunted house entertainment you get there.... Harry [ Sent From: Dreamscape Systems - dreamsys.com ] [ Location: Van Nuys, CA - (818) 781-7529 ] From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Mar 17 18:29:10 1997 From: matthew garza To: "'halloween-l@netcom.com'" Subject: RE: Halloween Carnival Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 21:20:45 -0500 Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com ------ =_NextPart_000_01BC3310.56008820 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ---------- From: Greg Hope[SMTP:ghope@coyote.csusm.edu] Sent: Sunday, March 16, 1997 10:44 AM To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: RE: Halloween Carnival Hey, Matt, in your reply to Kathy there was a small attached file with the following name: RE Halloween Carnival1 We're all wondering if this is something fun we can look at. What is it? I have no idea! It was nothing that I put there! 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Also, projectors, doors a Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com htraver@dreamsys.com wrote: > > Greg, count me in for a Knotts invasion. When the schedule comes out, > let's get it all going and with everyone in sight. I am inviting a > friend form Florida, so I want him along with the group. We are planing > two days worth. It lets us see so much more of everything. Even $50 is > worth for all the haunted house entertainment you get there.... > > Harry > > [ Sent From: Dreamscape Systems - dreamsys.com ] > [ Location: Van Nuys, CA - (818) 781-7529 ] I realise I'm new to the L, but would be interested in joining you all any time for a trip to Knotts. It is just 3 hours from me, so I'm ready to go.....soon! From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Mar 17 19:56:11 1997 Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 23:18:37 +0100 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: archival@li.com (kate carr/marc lougee) Subject: RE: Halloween Carnival Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com >---------- >From: Greg Hope[SMTP:ghope@coyote.csusm.edu] >Sent: Sunday, March 16, 1997 10:44 AM >To: halloween-l@netcom.com >Subject: RE: Halloween Carnival > >Hey, Matt, in your reply to Kathy there was a small attached file with the >following name: > >RE Halloween Carnival1 > >We're all wondering if this is something fun we can look at. What is it? > >I have no idea! It was nothing that I put there! I just replied to her >saying thanks for the link! > >matt > >Content-Type: application/ms-tnef > >Attachment converted: Bomb in a Box:RE- Halloween Carnival 2 (????/----) >(00005638) Awwwww Geeee, and you had us all going there for awhile....! From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Mar 17 20:18:38 1997 Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 23:15:10 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: David Janoskie Subject: Re: attachment and magazine Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com >Hey, Matt, in your reply to Kathy there was a small attached file with the >following name: > >RE Halloween Carnival1 > >We're all wondering if this is something fun we can look at. What is it? > >I have no idea! It was nothing that I put there! I just replied to her saying thanks for the link! > >matt > >Attachment Converted: c:\eudorapro\attach\RE Halloween Carnival2 > ============================================================================ ========================== Most likely Matt has a email application that attaches the text as a file and then sends the file as a copy to whoever the addresee is. What happens then is the file is converted to text and stuck in the main body of the message. Some earlier versions of CC:Mail used to do this as well as some UNIX mailing apps. Nothing to worry about. Just delete the file where the attachment is located. On another subject, Oliver ... , just received my sample issue of HAUNTED ATTRACTIONS and already I'm drooling! Nice job and layout. Look for my check for the subscription in the mail. (No, this is NOT my excuse to the IRS...) ************************** David Janoskie djan@erols.com "There is no terror in a bang, only in the anticipation of it." Alfred Hitchcock From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Mar 17 20:26:41 1997 Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 23:24:39 -0500 From: Craig To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Hello Again! Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com It's been sometime since my last post here. Since Halloween I have been so busy working on a number of projects, but I have enjoyed reading the number of posts made here. One of the projects I have been working on is for the upcoming Halloween Show. If it wasn't that I have another project in the works, I would be going myself..... anyways.... Back last year a number of people stated an interest in a device to sync thunder to strobes. Well, it's done. Theatre Effects will be selling it. If you're going to the show, be sure to check it out. I will soon have a web page up do display that and other projects that will soon be available. Well.....back to the drawing board......lots to do in such a few months. Gee, maybe we should have a party for all of those who want to go the the Halloween Show and can't?? I'm hosting.... To those going....have fun! Craig From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Mar 17 21:31:45 1997 Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 00:29:32 -0500 (EST) To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: hauntedattr@pelican.net (Oliver Holler) Subject: Re: Magazine-Mahalo! Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hello All! Thanks so much for the encouraging words on the magazine. I would have gladly paid double postage for such motivational responses! :-) If anyone hasn't received their free copy yet, you should have. They went out early last week. It may be in your box tomorrow, or your e-mail request didn't reach me, or you didn't send one. Reguardless, there will be free Spring issues for everyone who would like a sample copy at the Transworld trade show, and if you're wondering what all this is about: e-mail me direct with your mailing information and phone #, and you'll get a copy of the magazine that deals with haunted attractions! Grim and Grinning Oliver Ps: If anyone has ideas for improvements (constructive criticism) send 'em along. If I did the magazine just to serve myself, I wouldn't need to publish it! ;-) hauntedattr@pelican.net http://www.pelican.net/hauntedmagazine From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Mar 18 00:25:00 1997 From: htraver@dreamsys.com Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 00:17:10 -0700 Subject: Re: Cheap dungeon walls! Also, projectors, doors a To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Well, if you are on the list, you are invited. We will all co-ordinate plans right here on the mailing list. Also, welcome to the list! Harry Traver [ Sent From: Dreamscape Systems - dreamsys.com ] [ Location: Van Nuys, CA - (818) 781-7529 ] From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Mar 18 08:53:22 1997 Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 11:27:19 -0500 From: ROGER ALEXANDER To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: attachment and magazine -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Ok! I can't stand it anymore! My curiosity has gotten the better of me (heard too many good things) and I've got to have a copy of the magazine too!! Oliver, please send a (free sample?) copy to: Roger Alexander 234 Blue Sky South Springville, IN 47462 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Roger Alexander Phone: 812-854-4748 Naval Surface Warfare Center Fax: 812-854-5657 Bldg 64 Code 111RA Crane, IN 47522 INTERNET: alexander_r@crane.navy.mil Supporting the Fleet through Supply! From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Mar 18 09:29:36 1997 Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 12:22:33 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Fiber Optic Subject: Re: attachment and magazine -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 11:27 AM 3/18/97 -0500, you wrote: >Ok! I can't stand it anymore! My curiosity has gotten the better of me (heard too many good things) >and I've got to have a copy of the magazine too!! > >Oliver, please send a (free sample?) copy to: > >Roger Alexander >234 Blue Sky South >Springville, IN 47462 > Same thing.. I'm practically Dead allready (with curosity & tons of blood..) May I have the sample too.. Thanx.. Kel Millionie 1707 B Crimson Tree Way Edgewood Maryland, 21040-1724 From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Mar 18 10:20:31 1997 Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 11:57:24 -0600 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Robyn Dochterman Subject: Re: attachment and magazine -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Oh, the peer pressure! Oliver, may I have a sample copy, also: Robyn Dochterman 5256 38th Ave S. Minneapolis MN 55417 Thanks! At 12:22 PM 3/18/97 -0500, you wrote: >At 11:27 AM 3/18/97 -0500, you wrote: >>Ok! I can't stand it anymore! My curiosity has gotten the better of me >(heard too many good things) >>and I've got to have a copy of the magazine too!! >> >>Oliver, please send a (free sample?) copy to: >> >>Roger Alexander >>234 Blue Sky South >>Springville, IN 47462 >> > >Same thing.. I'm practically Dead allready (with curosity & tons of blood..) >May I have the sample too.. Thanx.. > >Kel Millionie >1707 B Crimson Tree Way >Edgewood Maryland, 21040-1724 > Robyn Dochterman Interactive editor Star Tribune Online Robdoc@startribune.com http://www.startribune.com ----------------------------------------------------- "Creativity is ability led by imagination" --Doug Ferguson ----------------------------------------------------- From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Mar 18 10:31:51 1997 Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 13:22:35 -0500 (EST) To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: hauntedattr@pelican.net (Oliver Holler) Subject: Re: Sharing Scaring Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Y'all wrote: >>Ok! I can't stand it anymore! . . .please send a (free sample?) copy to: >Same thing.. I'm practically Dead allready (with curosity & tons of blood..) >May I have the sample too. You folks are cracking me up! Sure you can all have a free issue! (Looking back, maybe it just looks too suspicious to be offering something like this to everyone.) 'Could be a trap!', 'Might cause tooth loss!' etc. There's no catch, but if you don't subscribe, it lessens it's chances for survival! (There wouldn't be money to print it, or much need to print it, for that matter.) Here me now and listen to me later. I am pro-sharing. I think that sometimes haunt folk (not on this list) get too secretive and protective, and don't want to share much. We'll I think that's a bunch of Hoo-Hah. So there! ;-) I'm off to the trade show, so we should all prepare for the onslaught of frenzied electronic sharing when the 'list' representatives return from Chicago! Grim and Grinning, Oliver hauntedattr@pelican.net http://www.pelican.net/hauntedmagazine From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Mar 18 10:40:23 1997 Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 21:27:07 -0800 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Hello Again! Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hi Ghouls, If anyone going to the show would pick me up the information on the strobe sync board that Craig was talking about at Thearter Effects I will gladly send you a envelope to mail it to me in!!! I am really interested in that sort of thing. My hubby tried last year to make the strobe sync to the thunder tape and almost lost his mind!! If anyone would do that for me I would greatly appreciate it!! Thanks Kathy the new kid on the crypt mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Mar 18 11:52:56 1997 Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 14:45:25 -0500 From: Craig To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Hello Again! Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Michael Marcrum wrote: > > Hi Ghouls, > If anyone going to the show would pick me up the information on the > strobe sync board that Craig was talking about at Thearter Effects I > will gladly send you a envelope to mail it to me in!!! I am really I will do one better......I just sent it to your email via a JPG attachment. No prices there, but if you call Nathan when he gets back next week I'm sure he can help you. Craig From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Mar 18 13:33:40 1997 Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 16:25:48 -0500 From: ROGER ALEXANDER To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Hello Again! -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com >>> Craig 3/18/97 2:45 pm >>> Michael Marcrum wrote: > > Hi Ghouls, > If anyone going to the show would pick me up the information on the > strobe sync board that Craig was talking about at Thearter Effects I > will gladly send you a envelope to mail it to me in!!! I am really I will do one better......I just sent it to your email via a JPG attachment. No prices there, but if you call Nathan when he gets back next week I'm sure he can help you. Craig <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Me too! Me too!! Just make sure it's a uuencoded attachment or my SMTP gateway won't handle it. Thanx!! p.s. if this is a problem, tell me a web or ftp site I can pull it down from. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Roger Alexander Phone: 812-854-4748 Naval Surface Warfare Center Fax: 812-854-5657 Bldg 64 Code 111RA Crane, IN 47522 INTERNET: alexander_r@crane.navy.mil Supporting the Fleet through Supply! From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Mar 18 14:22:50 1997 From: milwiron@btprod.com Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 16:08:43 -0600 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Hello/Strobes & Lightning Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 09:27 PM 2/27/97 -0800, Kathy wrote: >Hi Ghouls, > My hubby tried last year to make the >strobe sync to the thunder tape and almost lost his mind!! Hey Kathy, I just wanted to mention that I used strobes sync'd to thunder for 4 or 5 years and was never happy with the light output even though my last strobe setup was two 75 watt units. For the last couple of years I've gone to using regular incandescent flood lights in sync with the thunder. The light is more yellow but the output is much more noticeable. Now, people never fail to comment on the "lightning". I think the main problem with strobes is caused from the duration of the flash being so short. Maybe with larger 750 and 1,500 watt strobes this wouldn't be a problem. ...and it's obvious a couple of $6.00 flood light bulbs are easier to have around than a couple of $75.00, 75 watt strobes. I did try halogen flood lights but found the warm-up time for the bulbs was too long for a decent flash. Denny B.T. Productions' Terror By Design Haunt Supplies & Scare Wares From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Mar 18 15:29:40 1997 Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 15:20:24 -0500 From: Brer Bear To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Thanks Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hi again 'weenies, it's me. I wanted to say thanks to everyone that responded to my letter to the list. I got some great ideas, and terrific spots to surf on the net for home haunts. I, of course, am always interetsted in more haunts to check out, along with the info on the video tape of the the great home haunts that I still have yet to locate though. I wanted to ask about the strobe light that is paired with the lightning sound effects that someone posted yesterday that is now available and will be at the show. I am really interested, and would greatly appreciate our ambassadors to also look into anything available for animating a skull or dummy prop head that would allow it to sync up to sound. Random sounds sync't to an animated jaw would just about make my halloween...... It that too much to ask? I ordered a catalog that is supposed to have a recordable sound device that is supposed to be motion-detect activated to replay the sound that would allow a vampire to make gurgling sounds when approached or the like. I will let everyone know how that goes as I recieve the catalog and this progresses. If anyone has any hot setup for a bitchen device like this that has been proven, please let me know. I am looking for contact lenses that would make my eyes bright red or black that doesn't cost many hundreds of dollars. This would really make my Death Lord mask stand up and dance, but so far the contacts I've found cost $250.00 to $400.00, and I don't know if I want to dance that bad. Anyone know of these available for say $75.00? Does anyone know of a more detailed photo or plans of the Axworthy Flying Ghost than is available on Bobs Halloween Page? I guess i'm a bit dense, but I don't know how it's supposed to work in an "L" layout. I need to learn a bit more about the Haunt that has been mentioned in the last day that is described as Knotts. I assumed that it was ' Berry Farm, but they don't have a real haunt that runs year 'round. What's this haunt anyway? Rest in Peace. Wil From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Mar 18 15:57:05 1997 Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 18:52:21 -0500 From: Craig To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Hello/Strobes & Lightning Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com milwiron@btprod.com wrote: > Hey Kathy, > I just wanted to mention that I used strobes sync'd to thunder for 4 or 5 > years and was never happy with the light output even though my last strobe > setup was two 75 watt units. Well, the last strobe I used outdoors was a Ness GT-88. It actually lit up the whole front of the house. Twice when on TV and a great many times from people who have visited have commented on the lightning. I feel a strobe light is the way to go. The light color is much more realistic (has the look of "electric"). With my device it looks pretty real. The only part that isn't real is the delay of an approaching storm. Of course, most people don't associate this realistic approach with a storm. Most people expect flash/boom. It has work so well here, I'm afraid to say more people jumped and more candy dropped with my lightning than other effects I had. Hopefully that will change with a few new products I'm working on for this Halloween. Craig From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Mar 18 16:01:49 1997 Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 16:05:10 -0700 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Rick Hill Subject: Re: Cheap dungeon walls! Also, projectors, doors a Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Us, too! Three of us went down last year from the Sacramento area. Great fun! We are already planning to go this year and I'd love to meet with some of the other folks on the list who will be going/live in the area. Rick Hill >Greg, count me in for a Knotts invasion. When the schedule comes out, >let's get it all going and with everyone in sight. I am inviting a >friend form Florida, so I want him along with the group. We are planing >two days worth. It lets us see so much more of everything. Even $50 is >worth for all the haunted house entertainment you get there.... > >Harry > >[ Sent From: Dreamscape Systems - dreamsys.com ] >[ Location: Van Nuys, CA - (818) 781-7529 ] From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Mar 18 16:37:55 1997 Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 16:34:55 -0800 From: Bob Andrews To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Cheap dungeon walls! Also, projectors, doors a Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Rick Hill wrote: > > Us, too! Three of us went down last year from the Sacramento area. Great > fun! We are already planning to go this year and I'd love to meet with > some of the other folks on the list who will be going/live in the area. > > Rick Hill > Hey Rick! I'm in Tracy! Hi Neighbor! -- Bob Andrews bandrews@inreach.com http://www.anaserve.com/~BoBandrews From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Mar 18 17:01:48 1997 Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 17:00:48 -0800 From: Spook To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Knotts??? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Good evening, What are the operating dates for the Knotts house? I'm usually sorta tied-up around Halloween, but can be flexible if it runs for the entire month. Its only about 3 hours from here. Mark From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Mar 18 17:38:59 1997 Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 17:41:37 -0700 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Rick Hill Subject: Re: Cheap dungeon walls! Also, projectors, doors a Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hi, Bob! Last year Kathy and Don (and friends) of list fame, came over to my place in Sept for a Halloween idea swapping/brainstorming afternoon (and evening). We sorta said we'll do it agin this (only earlier). What say you all? Rick >Rick Hill wrote: >> >> Us, too! Three of us went down last year from the Sacramento area. Great >> fun! We are already planning to go this year and I'd love to meet with >> some of the other folks on the list who will be going/live in the area. >> >> Rick Hill >> > >Hey Rick! I'm in Tracy! Hi Neighbor! >-- >Bob Andrews >bandrews@inreach.com >http://www.anaserve.com/~BoBandrews Richard Hill Information Systems Manager Office Phone: (916) 757-3002 UCD Bookstore FAX: (916) 757-3010 UC Davis E-Mail: rrhill@ucdavis.edu Until May 1997, I'm also Interim Computer Shop Manager Office Phone: (916) 752-6391 UCD Bookstore FAX: (916) 752-2206 UC Davis E-Mail: rrhill@ucdavis.edu From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Mar 18 18:08:24 1997 Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 18:07:48 -0800 From: Scott Axworthy To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Hello/Strobes & Lightning Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Kathy, Denny, and all: milwiron@btprod.com wrote: > > At 09:27 PM 2/27/97 -0800, Kathy wrote: > >Hi Ghouls, > > My hubby tried last year to make the > >strobe sync to the thunder tape and almost lost his mind!! > > Hey Kathy, > I just wanted to mention that I used strobes sync'd to thunder for 4 or 5 > years and was never happy with the light output even though my last strobe > setup was two 75 watt units. > For the last couple of years I've gone to using regular incandescent flood > lights in sync with the thunder. The light is more yellow but the output is > much more noticeable. Now, people never fail to comment on the "lightning". > I think the main problem with strobes is caused from the duration of the > flash being so short. Maybe with larger 750 and 1,500 watt strobes this > wouldn't be a problem. I found the same results that Denny did. The strobes just didn't cut it and did npt produce the "lightning look". I ended up using a combination of a strobe and two incandescent floods to get a much better look. The quick flash of the strobe, followed by the slower starting floods, produces a shifting effect of the lightning, it looks pretty good. The decay on the incandescents looks good as well. The only problem with the combination is the "whiteness" of the strobes vs. the "yellowishness" of the floods. I don't like the variations in color. I need to beef up my circuitry to handle a larger flood load as well, not enough power yet. > ...and it's obvious a couple of $6.00 flood light bulbs are easier to have > around than a couple of $75.00, 75 watt strobes. Very much cheaper. > I did try halogen flood lights but found the warm-up time for the bulbs > was too long for a decent flash. Halogens don't like turning on and off either, they prefer to run at the full duty cycle for the halogen bulb to do its thing. Anything less and the life of the bulb is reduced greatly. -Scott From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Mar 18 18:19:52 1997 From: Spookyfx@aol.com Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 21:16:48 -0500 (EST) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Thanks Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com In a message dated 97-03-18 19:11:40 EST, you write: << I am looking for contact lenses that would make my eyes bright red or black that doesn't cost many hundreds of dollars. This would really make my Death Lord mask stand up and dance, but so far the contacts I've found cost $250.00 to $400.00, and I don't know if I want to dance that bad. Anyone know of these available for say $75.00? >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------- I found a way to make CHEAP (about $20 )colored contact lens. But I would be at risk with the law if I help you with this. I have been told the laws on "practicing medicine without a license" is serious to the point that professional special effects technicians hire doctors to make such. Can anyone on the list give me reliable advice in this area? I would be pleased to share the information as it is one of my home brewed Ideas I am very proud of. But I don’t want to go to jail over a little showing off! :-) Yours ghouly Jerry - @ --'---,--',---@ --'---,--',---@ --'---,--',---@ --'---,--',---@ ^v^ Esoteric Toys ^v^ (No one ever got anywhere by being NORMAL!) Web page: http://members.aol.com/Spookyfx/index.html @ --'---,--',---@ --'---,--',---@ --'---,--',---@ --'---,--',---@ From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Tue Mar 18 18:25:29 1997 From: ZTBJAZZ@aol.com Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 21:16:47 -0500 (EST) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: attachment and magazine -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com I also would like a sample copy of the magazine oliver too. Thanks! Zach Behrens C/O Tom Behrens 1218 West Addison Chicago, IL 60613