Subject: Re: Message for Jim Kadel Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Brer Bear wrote: > > Jim Kadel responded to my questions on the air operated scare device he > assembled last year, and offered info on creating this event. In the > response was reference to an "ECT" (Event Control Timer)that he made > himself to control how long power went to the selenoid switch (1 second) > to cause the skeleton to pop up and then retract. I need to attain an > ECT for this and the "Trash Can Trauma" (from Bertino's archive site)to > fully automate this. Could Jim or anyone else that has info on such a > device let me know how to aquire one? Buying is better than making for > the electronically challeged such as myself. The do-it-yourself approach would be to go to Radio Shack and purchase an integrated circuit called a 555 timer. Make sure the data sheet is attached to the blister pack. The data sheet shows what other components you need (resistors and capacitors) you need to make it into what's called an "intervalometer", an adjustable event timer. The 555 can directly power a relay, which can switch the 120VAC to the solenoid valve. -- ---------------------------------------- Brian W. Rich SBIR Stuff: http://www.sbir.com My Stuff: http://www.west.net/~science From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Thu Mar 20 08:02:33 1997 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Jim Kadel Subject: Haunt Master Products, Inc. Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 08:54:47 -0700 Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Yesterday Wil wrote: >Jim Kadel responded to my questions on the air operated scare device he >assembled last year, and offered info on creating this event. In the >response was reference to an "ECT" (Event Control Timer)that he made >himself to control how long power went to the selenoid switch (1 second) >to cause the skeleton to pop up and then retract. I need to attain an >ECT for this Today an ECT must be constructed from commercially available timers, it cost me $73.00 to put one together last year. For any haunt not controlled totally by computer, the ECT is a must. It's main purpose is to prevent the inadvertent or willful re-firing of a scare effect (event) by a past victim/s. This as you know can ruin the effect, by exposing it prematurely, to the next victim/s. At this point I'll mention that I'm starting a small Internet based business soon (will definitely announce it on this List), called: "Haunt Master Products, Inc" Products offered are special use HAUNT items. I am developing my own line of products that hopefully will be considered "needful things" by most of you, including those operating commercial haunts. Included in product development is a much lower cost version of the ECT; however, the initial product to be offered is called SPOOK LITE and is something of interest to many of you. SPOOK LITE is an incandescent light control (up to 1000 watts) having a fixed cycle of WEIRD light fluctuations; it simply has to be seen to be appreciated. I've used one on my house spot lights to announce Halloween haunt "is open" for years. It never fails to initiate questions like: "how'd you do that?" or "what's wrong with your lights?". [ There are MANY other haunt uses :] More later. ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| Jim Kadel (jimk@rica.net) Haunt Master Products, Inc ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Thu Mar 20 08:28:56 1997 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Jim Kadel Subject: Re: Message for Jim Kadel -Banter Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 09:20:37 -0700 Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 09:37 AM 3/20/97 -0600, Dave writes: (snipidy snip) > > Well, now the house lights pulsate in the evening giving the house >(as viewed from the outside) a very "Damien meets Freddie Krueger" >kind of look. Sometimes a newcomer to the area sees this and asks >a neighbor "What's up with that house?" To which the neighbors usually >respond, "Oh that?? That's just the Preacher's house!" I wouldn't be >surprised if some of them thought he was performing exorcisms in there. Now (actually not available yet), with a SPOOK LITE (mentioned in my earlier post), anyone can give their house this look. ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| Jim Kadel (jimk@rica.net) Haunt Master Products, Inc. ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Thu Mar 20 08:35:44 1997 From: "Jim Baggett" To: Subject: Voodoo Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 11:25:06 -0500 Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hi all, I don't remember if I shared this site before so thought I would do so now. I'm sure this group will really enjoy it. You go there and you can stick pins in a voodoo doll and email it. You have to have a java capable browser in order for it to work and the person you send it to does also. Each time a pin is stuck in it it screams. You can also burn it or cut it. Unfortunately now I can't get there it says it is forbidden to me. If anyone has any idea why that is please let me know. Here is the addy http://www.virtual-design.com/cgi-bin/Voodoo.pl Have fun, Charmaine From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Thu Mar 20 09:31:56 1997 Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 09:23:10 -0800 From: david c schwend To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Message for Jim Kadel Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com David Zinkus wrote: > > Lawrence H. Lund claims ... > *> > *> 120VAC is 120 Volts Alternating Current, it is what you get when you plug a > *> toaster in. > *> > > I don't want to start a banter about this, or by any means gain the perception > of flaming someone, but.......120 volts is not necessarily what you get > out of a wall. It can varry from about 105-125 or so. Depends how close > your house is to the pole transformer. In theory, the electric Co. likes > to ride the lower end. That way it requires more current to meet the > power requirement demands of devices you plug in. The elec Cos. charge > for current. $$$$ in their pocket. > > dmz I'm a telecommunications engineer for a large invester owned electric utility. Actually, my company charges for "kilowatt-hours". Watts are the product of volts times amps (current). If the voltage is high, current is low. If the voltage is low, current is high. Watts stay the same. Watts are an instantaneous measure, taken at a point in time, so electric companies charge for the number of hours they provide them for your use. Voltage (electrical pressure in the wire) will vary depending on how many watts you are using at your end of the wire (and by how many watts your neighbors are using). There is resistance in those big copper wires, and the more electricity you try to force through them, at any point in time, the larger the voltage drop in the wires (lost as heat from the wires). Since your meter is at your end of the wire, those losses are the electric companies problem. We would prefer to not lose any voltage this way, but physics keeps getting in the way. As for David Kiihne's parent's problem ... irregular lights since the big lightning show (I wonder how many strobes/floods he used) ... It sounds like they have a load/phase problem, maybe in the pole transformer connections or at a neighbors house. They need to get their electric utility involved. The resistance has changed (carbon from the lightning strike?) and that is causing the the voltage to vary widely as demand changes (refridgerator motors turning on and off, heating fans and elements turning on and off, etc.) I've also heard of strange things happening when house loses one leg of its 120/240 service or its neutral connection. Needless to say, things aren't working the way they were designed, and that can be dangerous (fires, shock hazards, ...). David Schwend From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Thu Mar 20 09:44:01 1997 Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 12:39:49 -0400 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Jason R Subject: Placeing Orders {Advertisement from me} Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hello all. Well hopefully that subject line was enough so that I don't get anyone mad at me for sending advertisements to the list. I am selling Tombstones this year for all us "Haunt Crazy People" There made out of foam, so that if someone happens to fall on one, it will bend and not break or cause any cuts or stuff like that. There painted then, finshed so as to be able to be left outside, thur Rain,Snow whathave you. You may paint onto them whatever message you like, or use Letteing kits like you get for House Numbers also. I will have a space on my Website soon for this so there will be pictures there, and will send out a mailing about that. For everyone on the Halloween list, I will give you the complete plans for FREE just for asking {Since that is pretty much what the list is about} but if you want to save time. I will still sell completed versions of them to you. Price as follows Tombstone 20$, includes shipping Plans 10$ FREE for all Halloween-l members. Jay ------------------------------------------------------------- -- Jason Roland- Yes, I support Mac's!. -- -- Member FDC {Beach Club lighting tech} -- -- Webmaster of the VRC Homepage. All Disney, all the time. -- -- Http://www.vivanet.com/~thelazer -- -- "I told'em the truth, and they fell for it"-Harry Anderson -- ------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Thu Mar 20 12:28:18 1997 From: allconen@btigate.com Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 13:23:07 -0800 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Hello/Strobes & Lightning Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Denny wrote: > > But... my wife has just reminded me that we sell strobes in our catalog > not flood lights. I can now see the error of my ways and agree that > only theatrical, 75 watt, strobe lights, (our catalog number ST 75, > Visa and Mastercard accepted) should be used for lightning. Good woman, your wife. Marketing genius, too. You oughta keep her. Debbie From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Thu Mar 20 12:32:08 1997 Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 14:29:59 -0600 From: David Kiihne To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Message for Jim Kadel -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com >>> david c schwend 03/20/97 11:23am >>> >As for David Kiihne's parent's problem ... irregular lights since the >big lightning show (I wonder how many strobes/floods he used) ... It >sounds like they have a load/phase problem, maybe in the pole >transformer connections or at a neighbors house. They need to get their >electric utility involved. The resistance has changed (carbon from the >lightning strike?) and that is causing the the voltage to vary widely as >demand changes (refridgerator motors turning on and off, heating fans >and elements turning on and off, etc.) I've also heard of strange things >happening when house loses one leg of its 120/240 service or its neutral >connection. Needless to say, things aren't working the way they were >designed, and that can be dangerous (fires, shock hazards, ...). Your technical advice is appreciated and I agree completely. What I didn't mention in my original message was that the electricians WERE from the electric utility. They "examined" the transformer and the wiring (in and outside the house) and pronounced everything normal. They apparently ignored the pulsing lights which happened while they were there! (Note: I was not there to hear what they said and see what they examined so - legally, speaking - this is all hearsay evidence.) I also agree with your safety concerns. The strike itself sparked a fire which caused much damage but, fortunately, no personal injuries. (Although I did lose a substantial portion of my magic props/books/memorabilia collection. *sniffle* I'm still in mourning.) To this day I fear for their safety regarding the risk of a second fire caused by the damaged (but somehow still "normal") wiring. Numerous discussions/arguments with the power company have yielded little and left us feeling rather powerless. (No pun intended) I'll also make a note of your suggestion regarding possible other sources of the anomalies. (Losing a circuit leg or ground) Maybe asking a few more questions will get them to think about some aspect of the situation they might have missed the first time. BTW, in fairness I should also mention - to anyone who may be taking notes for a law suit :) - that this case has been the exception rather than the rule regarding the service (electrical and customer) from this utility. In our experience, they have done a good job in many other areas; we just can't seem to get them to fire on all cylinders in fixing this one particular problem. Thanks again for the technical insights. Dave - daveki@nebfef.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Thu Mar 20 13:28:35 1997 From: milwiron@btprod.com Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 15:23:35 -0600 To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Banter/Hello/Strobes & Lightning Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 01:23 PM 3/20/97 -0800, you wrote: >Denny wrote: >> >> But... my wife has just reminded me that we sell strobes in our catalog >> not flood lights. I can now see the error of my ways and agree that >> only theatrical, 75 watt, strobe lights, (our catalog number ST 75, >> Visa and Mastercard accepted) should be used for lightning. > >Good woman, your wife. Marketing genius, too. You oughta keep her. > >Debbie > Marketing genius? She's not so smart, look who she married. Denny B.T. Productions' Terror By Design Haunt Supplies & Scare Wares From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Thu Mar 20 15:03:50 1997 Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 15:05:09 +0100 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: makeup@earthlink.net (Tad Peters) Subject: Re: Knotts??? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com I can almost garuntee thier answer will be no. #1 thier policy is that guests can not participate in the tom foolery (being made up or costumed) and then there is sewage!! Liability, as employees, Workers Comp, ect, ect... >Hey Bill, > I was thinking about getting hold of Knotts and seeing if, as a >halloween group, they would let us get dressed up and help haunt. Do you >think your fiancee would give you the info on who I could talk to?? I >think it would be fun to watch them make up their monsters and see some >backlot things....Thanks for the help! >Kathy >the new kid on the crypt >mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com Tad Peters A. Harlequin Costume makeup@earthlink.net 9589 Foothill Blvd tpeters@webbwerks.com Rancho Cucamonga, CA 91730 www.costumemagic.com <=- Web Page (909) 948-2950 From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Thu Mar 20 15:03:52 1997 Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 15:05:03 +0100 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: makeup@earthlink.net (Tad Peters) Subject: Re: Thanks Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com If any one cares, my personal reccomendation for anything in this line: Dr. Morton Greenspoon 14607 Ventura Blvd. Sherman Oaks, CA 91403 818/ 789-3311 I have used him in the past for plays and other things. Only thing though... spend someone else's money. From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Thu Mar 20 15:08:34 1997 Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 15:04:47 +0100 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: makeup@earthlink.net (Tad Peters) Subject: NEW COSTUMES FOR 1997 Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN STOCK NEW RUBIES COSTUMES. PLEASE VIEW: http://www.costumemagic.com in the next few days for pictures and descriptions of NEW costumes for 97!!! Remember just 225 days till Halloween 1997!! Tad Peters A. Harlequin Costume makeup@earthlink.net 9589 Foothill Blvd tpeters@webbwerks.com Rancho Cucamonga, CA 91730 www.costumemagic.com <=- Web Page (909) 948-2950 From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Thu Mar 20 16:09:00 1997 From: The Youngs To: "halloween-l@netcom.com" , "'milwiron@btprod.com'" Subject: RE: Banter/Hello/Strobes & Lightning Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 19:05:44 -0500 Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com > >Good woman, your wife. Marketing genius, too. You oughta keep her. > >Debbie > Marketing genius? She's not so smart, look who she married. Denny Yeah, but she's not trying to market you....or is she????? Jacqui From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Thu Mar 20 16:09:58 1997 Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 16:10:04 -0500 From: Brer Bear To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Message for Jim Kadel Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Brian Rich wrote: > > Brer Bear wrote: > > > > Jim Kadel responded to my questions on the air operated scare device he > > assembled last year, and offered info on creating this event. In the > > response was reference to an "ECT" (Event Control Timer)that he made > > himself to control how long power went to the selenoid switch (1 second) > > to cause the skeleton to pop up and then retract. I need to attain an > > ECT for this and the "Trash Can Trauma" (from Bertino's archive site)to > > fully automate this. Could Jim or anyone else that has info on such a > > device let me know how to aquire one? Buying is better than making for > > the electronically challeged such as myself. > > The do-it-yourself approach would be to go to Radio Shack and purchase > an integrated circuit called a 555 timer. Make sure the data sheet is > attached to the blister pack. The data sheet shows what other components > you need (resistors and capacitors) you need to make it into what's > called an "intervalometer", an adjustable event timer. The 555 can > directly power a relay, which can switch the 120VAC to the solenoid > valve. > > -- > ---------------------------------------- > Brian W. Rich > SBIR Stuff: http://www.sbir.com > My Stuff: http://www.west.net/~science Thanks for the info. All of this is helpfull! From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Thu Mar 20 18:03:21 1997 From: htraver@dreamsys.com Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 18:05:18 -0700 Subject: Re: Knotts??? To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Funny, am doing Vegas in 2 weeks or so for the coaster conference :) Harry [ Sent From: Dreamscape Systems - dreamsys.com ] [ Location: Van Nuys, CA - (818) 781-7529 ] From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Thu Mar 20 18:37:40 1997 From: Spookyfx@aol.com Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 21:34:46 -0500 (EST) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Message for Jim Kadel -Banter Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com In a message dated 97-03-20 10:39:20 EST, you write: << BTW, yes, my father really is a minister. And yes, that means that the minister's house was struck by lightning. I guess sometimes God has a taste for irony. :) >> ------------------------------------------------------- I am interested in how you work Halloween into you religious beliefs. I know of coarse the Halloween is NOT satanic but most do not know and I would think you must be confronted on this? I myself use to be an agnostic (I am a prove it to me sort of guy...) but without going into detail I had a "spiritual" experience that finally did prove it to me. I now believe in god but I do not believe in religions. because I am NOT superstitious, well....not much. (god made man, but man made religion...) I know that my love and talent for the macabre is something that god programmed into me, why I don’t know yet... I have had to deal with "over zealous" religious protesters at some of my HH and it is not fun! :~( But you must have a very interesting perspective that I would really like to know! Do you have advice for dealing with such protests? (It was great publicity but hard on my nerves and my "volunteers".) From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Thu Mar 20 18:58:12 1997 From: Spookyfx@aol.com Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 21:55:40 -0500 (EST) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Haunt Master Products, Inc. Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com you write: << Today an ECT must be constructed from commercially available timers, it cost me $73.00 to put one together last year. For any haunt not controlled totally by computer, the ECT is a must. It's main purpose is to prevent the inadvertent or willful re-firing of a scare effect (event) by a past victim/s. This as you know can ruin the effect, by exposing it prematurely, to the next victim/s. >> --------------------------------------- A cheap alternative is a sound switch connected to a relay. The PIR sets of the sound effect, the stereo sound uses one track for the audio, and the other track to operate the sound switch. The second track would have a recording of a load buzzer for the duration and at whatever intervals you like. I use this and simple relay logic circuits to control all my automation A good sound editing program will give you everything needed to create, manage and record the buzzer sounds at the perfect required frequency. A less complicated but slightly more expensive way to go is timer relays that can be set for a half second up to several minutes. These can be bought as delay on or delay off. again a simple relay logic circuit will allow the effect to come on for as long as needed than shut off until triggered again. these relays cost about $30. I have also be wondering if there is a market for me to construct simple electrical circuits from kits for those who would like the use of , but do not want to build the circuit. I have been working on my sound to motion circuit problem and in my research I have bought a variety of kits ( soundswitches , color organs, and such ). I have discovred that the kits are vary cost effective and would lend themselves to mass production. I would have to charge what I pay for the kits plus my labor to build the kits and shipping. Dose this interest anyone? Buy the way one of the kits for sound to motion was so good I will be posting the schematic and trashing my old design. (I discovered one of my problems with that old circuit was a bad experimenters board.; which I am taking back to Radio shake tonight!) Yours ghouly Jerry - @ --'---,--',---@ --'---,--',---@ --'---,--',---@ --'---,--',---@ ^v^ Esoteric Toys ^v^ (Creative, Not expensive solutions in special effects.) Web page: http://members.aol.com/Spookyfx/index.html @ --'---,--',---@ --'---,--',---@ --'---,--',---@ --'---,--',---@ From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Thu Mar 20 19:13:35 1997 From: Spookyfx@aol.com Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 22:09:07 -0500 (EST) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Placeing Orders {Advertisement from me} Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com In a message dated 97-03-20 12:41:19 EST, you write: << I will have a space on my Website soon for this so there will be pictures there, and will send out a mailing about that. For everyone on the Halloween list, I will give you the complete plans for FREE just for asking {Since that is pretty much what the list is about} but if you want to save time. I will still sell completed versions of them to you. >> --------------------------------- I really think this could be a great thing all of us on the list. If we all provided services in our areas of expertise to each other for things we just don’t want to or cant do ourselves. For instance if I wanted a emergency relay shut off system to cut off all the power to my effects form the circuit box. I would rather someone on the list who has a license for high voltage wiring design and assemble the darn thing. or if I wanted custom made software to run a x-10 system I could pay a programmer on the list to do it rather than struggle along in visual basic.... This would free me up to do the things I am good at and enjoy more. (is this going too far?) jerry From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Thu Mar 20 20:06:20 1997 Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 20:06:52 -0800 From: Bob Andrews To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Placeing Orders {Advertisement from me} Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Spookyfx@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 97-03-20 12:41:19 EST, you write: > > << > I will have a space on my Website soon for this so there will be pictures > there, and will send out a mailing about that. > > For everyone on the Halloween list, I will give you the complete plans for > FREE just for asking {Since that is pretty much what the list is about} but > if you want to save time. I will still sell completed versions of them to > you. >> > --------------------------------- > > I really think this could be a great thing all of us on the list. If we all > provided services in our areas of expertise to each other for things we just > don’t want to or cant do ourselves. > > For instance if I wanted a emergency relay shut off system to cut off all the > power to my effects form the circuit box. I would rather someone on the list > who has a license > for high voltage wiring design and assemble the darn thing. > or if I wanted custom made software to run a x-10 system I could pay a > programmer on the list to do it rather than struggle along in visual > basic.... > This would free me up to do the things I am good at and enjoy more. > > (is this going too far?) > > jerry It sounds good. I'm a programmer on the list who's writing software to control a CP290 x-10 system for my halloween display. Small world. -- Bob Andrews bandrews@inreach.com http://www.anaserve.com/~BoBandrews From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Thu Mar 20 20:20:02 1997 Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 20:11:58 -0800 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Greg Hope Subject: Re: Knotts??? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 06:05 PM 3/20/97 -0700, you wrote: >Funny, am doing Vegas in 2 weeks or so for the coaster conference :) >Harry How 'bout that! I didn't even know they had conferences for those! I like the cork ones best - the plastic ones always stick to the bottom of the glass, then fall off when you take a drink! Greg T (619) 945-4424 F (619) 726-2804 E ghope@mailhost1.csusm.edu From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Thu Mar 20 21:11:41 1997 Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 21:08:31 -0800 From: Brer Bear To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Haunt Master Products, Inc. Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Spookyfx@aol.com wrote: > > you write: > > << Today an ECT must be constructed from commercially available timers, it > cost me $73.00 to put one together last year. For any haunt not controlled > totally by computer, the ECT is a must. It's main purpose is to prevent > the inadvertent or willful re-firing of a scare effect (event) by a past > victim/s. This as you know can ruin the effect, by exposing it prematurely, > to the next victim/s. >> > --------------------------------------- > > A cheap alternative is a sound switch connected to a relay. The PIR sets of > the sound effect, the stereo sound uses one track for the audio, and the > other track to operate the sound switch. The second track would have a > recording of a load buzzer for the duration and at whatever intervals you > like. I use this and simple relay logic circuits to control all my automation > A good sound editing program will give you everything needed to create, > manage and record the buzzer sounds at the perfect required frequency. > > A less complicated but slightly more expensive way to go is timer relays that > can be > set for a half second up to several minutes. These can be bought as delay on > or delay off. again a simple relay logic circuit will allow the effect to > come on for as long as needed than shut off until triggered again. these > relays cost about $30. > > I have also be wondering if there is a market for me to construct simple > electrical circuits from kits for those who would like the use of , but do > not want to build the circuit. I have been working on my sound to motion > circuit problem and in my research I have bought a variety of kits > ( soundswitches , color organs, and such ). I have discovred that the kits > are vary cost effective and would lend themselves to mass production. I > would have to charge what I pay for the kits plus my labor to build the kits > and shipping. Dose this interest anyone? > Yes, it does. Please send me info on all of these goodies you can, since I am the "plug it in and watch it work" kind of guy! From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Thu Mar 20 21:28:21 1997 Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 21:24:59 -0800 From: Brer Bear To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Placeing Orders {Advertisement from me} Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Spookyfx@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 97-03-20 12:41:19 EST, you write: > > << > I will have a space on my Website soon for this so there will be pictures > there, and will send out a mailing about that. > > For everyone on the Halloween list, I will give you the complete plans for > FREE just for asking {Since that is pretty much what the list is about} but > if you want to save time. I will still sell completed versions of them to > you. >> > --------------------------------- > > I really think this could be a great thing all of us on the list. If we all > provided services in our areas of expertise to each other for things we just > don’t want to or cant do ourselves. > > For instance if I wanted a emergency relay shut off system to cut off all the > power to my effects form the circuit box. I would rather someone on the list > who has a license > for high voltage wiring design and assemble the darn thing. > or if I wanted custom made software to run a x-10 system I could pay a > programmer on the list to do it rather than struggle along in visual > basic.... > This would free me up to do the things I am good at and enjoy more. > > (is this going too far?) > > jerry I cannot agree more with jerry. I am an expert furniture designer and manufacturer. IF anyone on the list wanted to build a prop piece of furniture that was sturdy, but not neccesarily massively build as in 2 x 4's, then they could come to me for the construction methodology. Likewise I really would need to lean on someone for a copy of the software that would run the X-10 for me instead of spending the next 5 years learning computer programming. It only took me 15 years to become versed to this point in furniture, and I'm sure its taken that long for the X-10 programmers to really perfect their use as well. Why would we want reinvent the wheel all day every day for each and every one of us? I would pay for help, just as I'm sure others on the list would. Those of you that are really well versed at these gadgets that turn stuff on and off and sync up sound to motion etc. would do well as a side interest by making a few of these and offering them to the list for sale to us woodworkers and sales managers and pipe layers and landscapers. Rest in Peace. Wil From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Thu Mar 20 22:10:04 1997 Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 21:56:57 -0800 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Greg Hope Subject: Special skills Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Okay, I see where this is headed. It seems that it's time for Member List II. I'll do a subscription head count and get out surveys to those missed before as soon as possible. Meantime, I need some comments. Shall we add a column for special skills that is separate from (the column for) Halloween interests? Ths might be the right place to turn in a search for specialists in furniture design, electrical and mechanical design, drafting, programming, etc. In fact, I'll entertain suggestions of all kinds for the list. Spring break at the U. just began for me, so I'll be trying to get this update over within a week, if humanly possible. Greg T (619) 945-4424 F (619) 726-2804 E ghope@mailhost1.csusm.edu From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Thu Mar 20 22:49:48 1997 Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 22:46:39 -0800 From: Brer Bear To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: MIRC Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Has anyone looked into the MIRC chat client? And is there much inerest in our having a regular chat Saturdays from 4:pm to say 10:pm PST? If so I would be up for this. I am excited by how much ground could be covered in a short time on the live chat. Rest in Peace Wil From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Thu Mar 20 23:51:43 1997 From: htraver@dreamsys.com Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 23:50:46 -0700 Subject: Re: Placeing Orders {Advertisement from me} To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Jerry, that is one heck of an interesting idea. My problemn with myself is lack of time for many things I do want. I deal with electronics and computers every single day (arcade game design/repair), and I also compose game music (listen to the Castle Wolfenstein page on www.logicware.com for a sample in a QT movie). I hope to be able to compose haunted soundtracks for our haunt when the time comes. got all the equipment, just don't have the TIME yet :( Harry (Tony) [ Sent From: Dreamscape Systems - dreamsys.com ] [ Location: Van Nuys, CA - (818) 781-7529 ] From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Thu Mar 20 23:57:13 1997 From: htraver@dreamsys.com Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 23:56:48 -0700 Subject: Re: Knotts??? To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com uh Greg, not THAT kind of coaster, but the one that runs on rails :) kind of stoked, us having the world's first 100 mile per hour rollercoaster an hour away from me :) now, to get the money together to travel to Holiday World in Indiana to discover their new Halloween themed rollercoaster THE RAVEN... Other fun rollercoasters with Halloween themings: England: The Rat, Tower of Terror, Alien Invasion, Nemesis USA: the Raven,. the Beast, the Terror, Nightmare Mine, the Demon, the Vampire, the Bat (defunct), AlpineGeist.... and the one time locally ewhen they redid Psyclone with all the spiderwebs inside of the tunnel. Great fun, considering you rode it backwards at the time... Harry [ Sent From: Dreamscape Systems - dreamsys.com ] [ Location: Van Nuys, CA - (818) 781-7529 ] From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 21 02:50:32 1997 Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 05:43:28 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Fiber Optic Subject: Re: MIRC Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 10:46 PM 3/22/97 -0800, you wrote: >Has anyone looked into the MIRC chat client? And is there much inerest >in our having a regular chat Saturdays from 4:pm to say 10:pm PST? If so >I would be up for this. I am excited by how much ground could be covered >in a short time on the live chat. > That sounds great, I'm allways on Mirc. What does everyone else think?? From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 21 03:21:56 1997 From: Spookyfx@aol.com Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 06:14:52 -0500 (EST) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Placeing Orders {Advertisement from me} Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com In a message dated 97-03-20 23:06:06 EST, you write: << It sounds good. I'm a programmer on the list who's writing software to control a CP290 x-10 system for my halloween display. Small world. -- Bob Andrews bandrews@inreach.com http://www.anaserve.com/~BoBandrew >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------- Wow! I need to ask you a few questions! I have never used the X-10 stuff. I have used more crude but effective methods. I just started looking at the system but the sales people cant answer my questions satisfactory. (there was a time when a merchant knew their product....oh well!) 1. What is the smallest time loop the system will allow. can I for instance turn on a device for a 1/10 of a second, turn it of for 1 second than turn it on fore 10 seconds, than of for 2 seconds ETC. 2. I see that there are input devices such as a door contact. How many separate input devices can input different information at the same time. I would like to use multiple input devices with say PIR or floor mats to manipulate the system but it will be useless to me if I cant at least have 30 different input devices that can be triggered at different rates and times. The system needs to be able to handle at lest that much separate channels of input. 3. If the power is out on the system for longer than 24 hours will the programmed circuits loose its programming? 4. .as I understand it the “brain” of the system dose not need to be connected to my computer after it has been programmed is this correct? I would be able to program the controlling circuits then disconnect it from the computer and take it to my HH site to plug it in to the on site system? 5. How is the system effected by inductance from other radio, electrical and magnetic systems? Would an intercom system that uses the ac wires to communicate still work or must the lines be dedicated to the x10 system? 7. Can all 200 plus “events” operate at the same time or do they happen one after the other? I really need these questions addressed be for I sink my money and efforts into what looks like something that is to good to be true! -jerry From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 21 03:34:25 1997 From: Spookyfx@aol.com Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 06:28:39 -0500 (EST) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Placeing Orders {Advertisement from me} Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com In a message dated 97-03-21 02:51:43 EST, you write: << Jerry, that is one heck of an interesting idea. My problemn with myself is lack of time for many things I do want. I deal with electronics and computers every single day (arcade game design/repair), and I also compose game music (listen to the Castle Wolfenstein page on www.logicware.com for a sample in a QT movie). I hope to be able to compose haunted soundtracks for our haunt when the time comes. got all the equipment, just don't have the TIME yet :( Harry (Tony) >> ------------------------------------------------- Your the perfict person for me to ask this question..... What is the law and the then the reality of using copywriten music in a HH for both charity and/or profit? Is the "fair use" clause applicable to this kind of situation? The customers are not paying to hear the music but the music is playing while they are in the HH. What is your take on this? jerry- From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 21 04:25:11 1997 From: Spookyfx@aol.com Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 07:13:07 -0500 (EST) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: DANGEROUS Le "say" ons...and on and on.. Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com In a message dated 97-03-20 18:02:04 EST, you write: << I am interested, I wear extended wear contacts, so IF I were to expirience any discomfort from your method, I could just get another pair out. Thanks tad. >> well.... I have had some stiff warnings on advising anyone on this subject. If I can find a way to "explain" the method ( a way I am 100% sure will protect me) without opening myself up to a law suit or goverment intervention, I will post the information. I wish this nation of laws was not so sue happy. We are "stunted" in our ability to try things and many other countries surpass us in new product “use” because we have almost no avenue to allow people who want to take a risk to do so.... I would like the government to provide approvals and warnings on products such as drugs and foods or even medical devices etc. If I chose to ignore the warnings it should be my choice. Customers could choose to do business with government inspected and approved businesses or choose NOT to. ALL the pit falls and disadvantages we have in our PRESENT system would be in this system, but if I wanted to I should be allowed to take the risk. The law should be set up to penalize for NOT giving a customer complete information on the "product", but It should not treat me as if I cant make up my own mind! New Zealand is like this! I was able to do my “research” on the contact lens using information and people's services in that country to perfect my method. ( Insurance in that country is CHEAP! ) NOT to sell the contacts, but just to use them for myself. But if a car driving, war draftable, voting, tax paying, life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness citizen like Tad wants to do something that only hurts himself, what is the difference between that and choosing a paying for a dangerous sport, or choosing to buy a home in a flood zone that people die in every rainy season? From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 21 06:15:26 1997 From: sao@mit.edu To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Placeing Orders {Advertisement from me} -> X10 Stuff Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 09:06:38 EST Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com (Replying to the list, because I think this is of general interest...) Spookyfx@aol.com, Fri, 21 Mar 1997 06:14:52 -0500 (EST): >Wow! I need to ask you a few questions! [Questions 1,2,3,4,5,7 deleted...] I'm a big X10 fan, and use it all around my house to control lights, fans, radios, etcetra. Technically, it transmitts its control codes at the zero crossings of the 60hz cycle in your house current....And since each control code is something like 24 bits, this limits it to roughly two actions per second. (Order of magnitude approximations here) Each appliance plugs into a little beige box set to listen for control commands on a specific house and module setting. You can get controller boards for just about any sort of computer and run X10 modules under automatic control. Or, as I do, just use little control pads scattered around the house in place of light switches. Instead of filling the list with lots of detailed answers, which may not be of interest to all readers, and are thus more appropriate for private email, let me just refer you to the "Home Automation Systems" online catalog at: http://www.techmall.com/smarthome/index.html Also, they have a section on the basics of X10 at: http://www.techmall.com/smarthome/aboutx10.html Andy Oakland sao@mit.edu http://mit.edu/sao/www/ From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 21 06:53:44 1997 From: htraver@dreamsys.com Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 06:48:18 -0700 Subject: Re: Placeing Orders {Advertisement from me} To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com I go by the wisdom of JB Corn, public performance would include using music in an HH, and could constitute a copyright violation. Certain songs are public domain, such as Bach's works. I am not exactly sure how an individual's interpretation of the song would be copyright protected, but his music itself is public domain. The basic rulle of thumb would be: if your HH charges an admission, then the fair use doctrine does not apply. If it's a backyard thing, I don't see a problem, since no admission is being charged. Did you realize that Disneyland is laughing all the way to the bank since Knotts gains permission to use the Disney name in the Hanging each year? Or that Disney once sued Magic Mounta for 50 grand for using 7 seconds of the Fantasmic theme in the dolphin show (and it wasn't even a well known part of that soundtrack!).... Jerry, my take on it all? are you a fellow clone? :) Harry "in the jungle" Traver [ Sent From: Dreamscape Systems - dreamsys.com ] [ Location: Van Nuys, CA - (818) 781-7529 ] From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 21 07:37:13 1997 Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 08:18:51 -0700 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Haunted River Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com One of the best haunted theme rides was the Haunted River at Kings Dominion. Basically a log flume, it ran through a number of beautifully appointed rooms inside the volcano: cemetery, ancient Egypt, a pirate ship, etc. At the end, you had the usual splashdown. A lot of fun! I hear they've torn it down. Damn! From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 21 07:38:44 1997 Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 08:09:20 -0700 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Haunts Listing--1997 Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hi, folks! I guess it's time to start updating the haunts listing for 1997. Take a look at http://www.geocities.com/heartland/2007/haunts.html which has 1996's listing for an idea of the kind of info I need. This isn't just for commercial haunts; the first section is dedicated to folks who decorate their own homes. Send me some listings! From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 21 07:41:52 1997 Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 07:26:14 -0800 From: Bob Andrews To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: MIRC Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Brer Bear wrote: > > Has anyone looked into the MIRC chat client? And is there much inerest > in our having a regular chat Saturdays from 4:pm to say 10:pm PST? If so > I would be up for this. I am excited by how much ground could be covered > in a short time on the live chat. > > Rest in Peace > > Wil That would be cool, except you'll find out what a slow typist I am! It's kinda scary considering it's my livelihood! -- Bob Andrews bandrews@inreach.com http://www.anaserve.com/~BoBandrews From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 21 08:09:04 1997 Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 11:29:40 -0800 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Placeing Orders {Advertisement from me} Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hi Ghouls, I don't do anything tech!! wiring and stuff like that is beyond me, but I can sew anything!!!! So if someone needs a costume, or a prop outfit...I will help!!! Need a body, I will make one!! That is my area. I also take photographs for a living...have something that you want a picture taken of for your page or catalog... those are my fields and I will be glad to help!! Kathy the new kid on the crypt mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 21 08:30:02 1997 Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 08:15:44 -0800 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Greg Hope Subject: Re: Haunts Listing--1997 Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 08:09 AM 3/21/97 -0700, you wrote: >Hi, folks! > >I guess it's time to start updating the >haunts listing for 1997. Take a look at Lauren, if this is all your work, it's fantastic! Quite an endeavor! I don't have any submissions for you yet, but will definitely do some scouting. This is kind of like a fall travel itinerary for the people in this group. Kudos, Greg T (619) 945-4424 F (619) 726-2804 E ghope@mailhost1.csusm.edu From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 21 08:50:32 1997 Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 08:34:02 -0800 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Greg Hope Subject: Re: Placeing Orders {Advertisement from me} Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 11:29 AM 3/20/97 -0800, you wrote: Need a body, I will make one!! That is my area. >I also take photographs for a living...have something that you want a >picture taken of for your page or catalog... > those are my fields and I will be glad to help!! >Kathy For one, I wish you could make a cadaver out of the teenager down the block, then do a photoessay that I could post as a warning to his commerades, but patience is a virtue and forgiveness is divine (I guess). Greg T (619) 945-4424 F (619) 726-2804 E ghope@mailhost1.csusm.edu From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 21 08:59:05 1997 Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 08:53:15 -0800 From: Bill Douglas To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Knotts??? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com I agree with Tad, Knotts is not a "show you behind the scenes" kind of place. My fiancee was a temp just for the Haunt and dosen't know anyone who could pull those kind of strings, she describes the preperation as being pretty chaotic. When I went I noticed most of the "monsters" are in latex masks, very few people were in makeup and fewer still of those had prosthetics. The Haunt is a big deal for Knotts, the rumor I heard is they make about 1/3 of their annul profit off the Haunt. Tad is right no makeup and no costumes for the customers probably for security, there was a stabbing last year and fights are fairly common. Lots of the visitors (esp. 11 to 15 year old males) get bored around midnight and amuse themselves by punching, kicking and tripping the monsters -- they bought a ticket and that gives them the right to abuse the employees I guess. I was told stories about guys trying to beat up the "monsters" for frighting their girlfriends. I'm still going back though. Tad Peters wrote: > > I can almost garuntee thier answer will be no. #1 thier policy is that > guests can not participate in the tom foolery (being made up or costumed) > and then there is sewage!! Liability, as employees, Workers Comp, ect, > ect... > > >Hey Bill, > > I was thinking about getting hold of Knotts and seeing if, as a > >halloween group, they would let us get dressed up and help haunt. Do you > >think your fiancee would give you the info on who I could talk to?? I > >think it would be fun to watch them make up their monsters and see some > >backlot things....Thanks for the help! > >Kathy > >the new kid on the crypt > >mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com > > Tad Peters A. Harlequin Costume > makeup@earthlink.net 9589 Foothill Blvd > tpeters@webbwerks.com Rancho Cucamonga, CA 91730 > www.costumemagic.com <=- Web Page (909) 948-2950 Bill -- ----------------------------------------- Don't bother sending me your theory on the creation of the Cosmos, I'm only the electronics engineer. ----------------------------------------- From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 21 09:12:22 1997 Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 08:56:24 -0800 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Greg Hope Subject: Re: Special skills Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 11:37 AM 3/20/97 -0800, you wrote: >Greg, > If I hear you right you are going to make a page with our special >areas...I like the idea. So if I need to get help with wiring I will >know who to ask, and if somebody is in need of making a costume with two >head openings they can ask me!! I like it!! >Good Idea!!! >Kathy So far, I'm just thinking of this as an addition to the trusty member list (the file you and others received by email). I've been pretty lazy about getting a web page up with my own stuff and have some reservations regarding posting member info a www page. I'd really like to hear some more comments about this. A safe compromise might be setting up a table on Don's page with name, email, state (or region, i.e., N,S,E,W), interests and skills. It might be kind of neat to be able to search the list for a skill, interest or locality, then click to email the person. Greg T (619) 945-4424 F (619) 726-2804 E ghope@mailhost1.csusm.edu From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 21 09:35:01 1997 Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 11:37:11 -0800 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Special skills Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Greg, If I hear you right you are going to make a page with our special areas...I like the idea. So if I need to get help with wiring I will know who to ask, and if somebody is in need of making a costume with two head openings they can ask me!! I like it!! Good Idea!!! Kathy the new kid on the crypt mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 21 09:35:26 1997 Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 13:08:34 -0800 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Placeing Orders {Advertisement from me} Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hey Greg, this is no lie,,,,two years ago halloween some punk kids came screaming around the corner almost taking out a family that was going around the area. Well the father yelled at the punks and they slammed on the brakes and came at the dad. Of course I yelled for our guys and out came 5 big guys with axes and hammers ( one dressed as the grim reaper) Well the jerks got back in the car and took off, but not before I took the camera and got a picture of them, the car, and the liscense number!!!! Wasn't hard to tell the cops about them!!! So give me the kids address!! You never know... Kathy the new kid on the crypt mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 21 09:42:42 1997 Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 13:11:43 -0800 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Knotts??? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com OK Ghouls, I can see that this idea is not a good one!! So I guess we will just have to go as us....that might be scary enough!! Kathy the new kid on the crypt mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 21 09:50:54 1997 Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 09:43:42 -0800 From: Bill Douglas To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: How do the big haunts control things? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com What kind of a control system do peole use to control the effects in their haunts, PLCs, X10s, PCs, Macs, small embedded controller boards, six guys flipping switches for 2 weeks? I'd like to know a friend asked me for some help on a charity haunted house and I don't want to reinvent the wheel. Thanks Bill -- ----------------------------------------- Don't bother sending me your theory on the creation of the Cosmos, I'm only the electronics engineer. ----------------------------------------- From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 21 10:02:44 1997 Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 09:56:54 -0500 From: Brer Bear To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Placeing Orders {Advertisement from me} -> X10 Stuff Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com sao@mit.edu wrote: > > (Replying to the list, because I think this is of general interest...) > > Spookyfx@aol.com, Fri, 21 Mar 1997 06:14:52 -0500 (EST): > >Wow! I need to ask you a few questions! > [Questions 1,2,3,4,5,7 deleted...] > > I'm a big X10 fan, and use it all around my house to control lights, > fans, radios, etcetra. Technically, it transmitts its control codes > at the zero crossings of the 60hz cycle in your house current....And since > each control code is something like 24 bits, this limits it to roughly > two actions per second. (Order of magnitude approximations here) > Each appliance plugs into a little beige box set to listen for control > commands on a specific house and module setting. > > You can get controller boards for just about any sort of computer and > run X10 modules under automatic control. Or, as I do, just use little > control pads scattered around the house in place of light switches. > > Instead of filling the list with lots of detailed answers, which may > not be of interest to all readers, and are thus more appropriate for > private email, let me just refer you to the "Home Automation Systems" > online catalog at: > > http://www.techmall.com/smarthome/index.html > > Also, they have a section on the basics of X10 at: > > http://www.techmall.com/smarthome/aboutx10.html > > Andy Oakland > sao@mit.edu > http://mit.edu/sao/www/ > I take it that software interface for computer use is in it's infancy on the x10? On the first URL reference you give, the price for a software package is $589.95. Is this right? Wil From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 21 10:12:30 1997 Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 10:11:39 -0500 From: Brer Bear To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Special skills Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Michael Marcrum wrote: > > Greg, > If I hear you right you are going to make a page with our special > areas...I like the idea. So if I need to get help with wiring I will > know who to ask, and if somebody is in need of making a costume with two > head openings they can ask me!! I like it!! > Good Idea!!! > Kathy > the new kid on the crypt > mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com This was a good idea. Our own barter list. What would we DO without the internet? From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 21 10:54:12 1997 From: sao@mit.edu To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: X10 Stuff Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 13:50:04 EST Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com crafters@silcom.com, Fri, 21 Mar 1997 09:56:54 -0500: [~30 lines of included text deleted] >I take it that software interface for computer use is in it's infancy on >the x10? On the first URL reference you give, the price for a software >package is $589.95. Is this right? Actually, X10 control boards for computers have been around since at least the days of the 286. A friend of mine just purchased one, new, for his Pentium, for $35. I'm not sure where you saw the $589.95 price. Look at http://www.techmall.com/smarthome/1610.html (Which is accessable off the "computer control" link from the first page I sent to the list) and you'll find packages including software for Windows 95 starting at $50. Voice recognition is an extra $150 or so. Andy Oakland sao@mit.edu http://mit.edu/sao/www/ From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 21 11:50:38 1997 Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 11:43:21 -0500 From: Death Lord To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: X10 Stuff Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com sao@mit.edu wrote: > > crafters@silcom.com, Fri, 21 Mar 1997 09:56:54 -0500: > [~30 lines of included text deleted] > >I take it that software interface for computer use is in it's infancy on > >the x10? On the first URL reference you give, the price for a software > >package is $589.95. Is this right? > > Actually, X10 control boards for computers have been around since at > least the days of the 286. A friend of mine just purchased one, new, > for his Pentium, for $35. > > I'm not sure where you saw the $589.95 price. Look at > http://www.techmall.com/smarthome/1610.html (Which is accessable off > the "computer control" link from the first page I sent to the list) > and you'll find packages including software for Windows 95 starting at $50. > Voice recognition is an extra $150 or so. > > Andy Oakland > sao@mit.edu > http://mit.edu/sao/www/ > Cool. Thanks for the info Andy! -- X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X Rest in Peace Death Lord http://www.silcom.com/~crafters/playgate.htm X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 21 12:07:36 1997 Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 12:07:21 -0500 From: Death Lord To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Hello Again! -Reply -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com ROGER ALEXANDER wrote: > > Great idea. In fact I was going to suggest that we have one standard night each week that everyone > could go to meet. May I suggest > DALnet:igc.dal.net(USA) on #Halloween each Saturday from 3pm to 10pm > PST? > > Let me know. > Wil > <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > > *sigh* If it's on the weekend, I can't play! Have INTERNET access only at work. Could do it during > lunch time 1100-1200 M-F EST. Still haven't convinced Susan on the monthly cost of access from > home yet. Maybe some day... > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Roger Alexander Phone: 812-854-4748 > Naval Surface Warfare Center Fax: 812-854-5657 > Bldg 64 Code 111RA > Crane, IN 47522 > > INTERNET: alexander_r@crane.navy.mil > > Supporting the Fleet through Supply! Roger, I understand your dilemma. However. The internet link at home is probably the best thing I've ever added to mine. I got a brand new spa last year that cost $4000.00 and would trade it in a heartbeat if I had to to retain my internet link at home. If you spend the $20.00 a month for the net two things are likely to happen; 1) You'll never notice the $20.00 out of your pocket.(This is a FACT. I quit smoking, and I NEVER located the $60.00 a month I was supposed to save.) and 2) You and your wife will more than likely spend so much time on the net for fun and adventure, you'll probably save more than $20.00 on less rented videos and entertainment! As close as I can figure, it would save you so much money per month on entertaniment, you should enroll me in a cheese of the month club just for turning you on to it! ;~) Besides, we plan on only unveiling our greatest ideas during the live chat on the weekends rather than on the list. SO LINK UP! Wil -- X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X Rest in Peace Death Lord http://www.silcom.com/~crafters/playgate.htm X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 21 12:10:31 1997 Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 12:27:15 -0500 From: Craig To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Placeing Orders {Advertisement from me} Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Spookyfx@aol.com wrote: > What is the law and the then the reality of using copywriten music in a > HH for both charity and/or profit? > > Is the "fair use" clause applicable to this kind of situation? The > customers > are not paying to hear the music but the music is playing while they are in > the HH. I might be able to answer some of this. I have just went through a bunch of this with a local CBS afil. Copyrighten music is under Copyright, no matter who or what you are...except the owner. Now, I could be wrong here, but I don't think so...., "Fair Use" only works if you pay a blanket fee to ASCAP, BMI, SESAC, etc... That blanket fee covers incidental use of music. In our news, it allows us to use 2 15 second cuts of a piece. They have to be 2 diff. 15 sec. cut too, not sequential. If we use over 15 sec. then we have to pay something on that whole show. Now a public performance will be somewhat diff., but I bet you will run into the same problem....you're not paying a blanket fee. Even though people aren't going to the HH to hear the music, you are using it to enhance your HH, which in turn will make you more money (you hope). ASCAP (and others) base your fee on your gross receipts. It is VERY expensive to do...even for a NFP group. ASCAP don't care much...they want their money. You might get some type of break, but don't count on it. Of course, there is the other choice....what they don't hear won't hurt them. You take a chance here. Usually if you're caught you will get a letter to quit using the music or else. From there it is up to you. Craig From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 21 12:19:33 1997 Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 12:08:07 -0800 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Greg Hope Subject: Sound insulation Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com New topic. Since I'm dealing with small area again (garage), I'm interested in any experience others have had with controlling the transmission of sound from one side of a haunt to another. I'm planning a maze and I know that this, in itself, helps. However, are there any cheap materials that anyone has had especially good luck with? I've tried water heater insulation, but it only comes in white. I don't mind loose material, but hope that there's something good and inexpensive that comes in sheets or rolls or ??? I've looked into authentic sound insulation and it's big bucks, so that's out. Greg T (619) 945-4424 F (619) 726-2804 E ghope@mailhost1.csusm.edu From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 21 12:20:17 1997 From: "Jim Baggett" To: Subject: Re: MIRC Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 15:15:28 -0500 Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Microsoft has "Comic Chat" which can be downloaded. It makes IRC chat much more interesting. Instead of just lines of chat it looks like a comic in the newspaper with the chat in the balloons. They have an extra character pac that can also be downloaded so you have more characters to work with. It is very easy to use. Charmaine From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 21 12:20:52 1997 Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 12:08:09 -0800 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Greg Hope Subject: Questions on dungeon walls Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Asking again if anyone's had experience with mixing polystyrene beads (like those used to stuff beanbag chairs) into plaster to decrease the weight of fabricated dungeon walls. Cliff Martin posted great plans that I intend to follow, but I'm really shooting for the least weight possible (I might end up storing these things above the cars in the garage off season). Are there any other alternatives to the beads for adding volume without weight? Shredded paycheck stubs or junk mail? Should I try adding yeast and letting it rise? Greg T (619) 945-4424 F (619) 726-2804 E ghope@mailhost1.csusm.edu From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 21 12:51:25 1997 From: sao@mit.edu To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: X10 Stuff Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 15:43:13 EST Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Someone wrote: [25 lines of repeated text deleted] >Cool. Thanks for the info Andy! [7 line sig deleted] Folks, I'm going to sound like an old fart here. I'm glad that this reader appreciated my pointers to X10 resources, but it wasn't necessary to send the one line "thanks" message to the entire mailing list. And it certainly wasn't necessary to include the entire message along with a one-line addition. Please, please, think before you email. Ask yourself, "Is everybody interested in what I have to say, or just this one person?" And if it's just the one person, it's best to send private email directly to him or her, NOT the list. (Note that a reply to a posting to the Halloween-l list is sent to the entire list. To send a message just to one person, you have to send a new email message instead of replying.) And it's never necessary to include the entire prior message in your reply. Edit it down so there's just enough left so that people can read your reply in context. Thanks for your help in keeping traffic down to a dull roar... Andy Oakland sao@mit.edu http://mit.edu/sao/www/ From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 21 13:20:32 1997 Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 13:15:35 -0500 From: Death Lord To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: MIRC Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Jim Baggett wrote: > > Microsoft has "Comic Chat" which can be downloaded. It makes IRC chat > much more interesting. Instead of just lines of chat it looks like a comic > in the newspaper with the chat in the balloons. They have an extra > character pac that can also be downloaded so you have more characters to > work with. It is very easy to use. > Charmaine Coooool. Where? -- X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X Rest in Peace Death Lord http://www.silcom.com/~crafters/playgate.htm X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 21 13:59:31 1997 Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 15:56:33 -0600 From: David Kiihne To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Halloween and Religion (was Re: Message for Jim Kadel -Banter) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Warning: Extremely long-winded post containing little useful information, rambling points (if you're lucky), and possibly inflammatory opinions. Proceed with caution, common sense, and good humor. (Because mine usually isn't) >>> 03/20/97 08:34pm >>> >I am interested in how you work Halloween into you religious beliefs. >I know of coarse the Halloween is NOT satanic but most do not know and I >would think you must be confronted on this? Actually, I don't have a problem with it at all. Of course that may not necessarily mean that I'm correct, perhaps just that I'm damned for all eternity... :) (Gee, an admission that I my eternal soul may be damned... followed immediately by a "smiley face." This does not bode well for the rest of this post, does it?) To be honest, I'm quite familiar with the holiday's historical origins. I'm well aware of the Celtic/Druid agricultural celebrations that originated the costuming, door-to-door bartering, and supernatural symbolism. I am ALSO well aware of Gregory IV's 5th Century "conversion" of the holiday into the Christian celebration of All Saint's Day. It should (but won't) go without saying that I celebrate the Christian variation of the holiday. Whenever I decorate or design anything (illusion, special effect, prop, whatever), I make every effort to avoid any pagan or demonic symbols. (No circled pentagrams, inverted crosses, etc. Some are quite obvious; others require a little research.) To the best of my knowledge, I have been successful in this self-censorship. I also have no problem with the modern form of trick-or-treating. For 99 percent of the kids (completely non-scientific and unsupported statistic there), I'm sure they know virtually nothing of the holiday beyond "Get dressed up, Get scared (maybe), Get candy,... Have candy, Have tummy ache, Have nap." I don't get worked up over this commercialized form of the holiday. (Although, being a complete hypocrite, I bitch and moan each year about the commercialization and "de-God-ifying" of Christmas. Sure, it's a blatant double standard, but it's MY blatant double standard and I like it. :) ) >I have had to deal with "over zealous" religious protesters at some of my HH >and it is not fun! :~( >But you must have a very interesting perspective that I would really like to >know! I ALWAYS have a very interesting perspective... At least from MY perspective, anyway. :) (Couldn't resist.) I haven't had to deal with too many zealots yet. And the most major instance turned out to be a (minor) contributing factor to my late-teen brush with suicide. ...Not exactly my top choice for a standard method to handle the situation. :) Besides, I don't run a HH, I just decorate my home and sometimes design illusions/effects for HHs in the area. In my opinion (and that's what all of this is... my OPINION. Disagree or disregard as you see fit.), if I have been true to my intentions and excluded any "anti-Christian" symbolism, I wouldn't think they should have a problem with it. If they do, I try to present them with polite disagreement. Something like "I understand your opinion. I don't agree with it, but I understand it." Don't do anything to fuel their fire and brimstone. If they become too bothersome, you should have the right to ask them to leave your establishment; the typical "We have the right to refuse service..." situation. If they persist or even interfere with potential patrons' access to your business, you may be legally-entitled to take further action. (Do NOT trust my statements, though. Consult an informed/educated legal-type person who is knowledgeable of the legislation in your area.) >Do you have advice for dealing with such protests? >(It was great publicity but hard on my nerves and my "volunteers".) Advice? Well, like I said, I'm no expert in running HHs, but to reiterate some of my points.... Know your rights in dealing with protesters. Know your attraction and its contents and whether or not the protesters have any basis for a legitimate complaint. And, most importantly, know that what you're doing provides fun and enjoyable entertainment for many, many people who appreciate your efforts. Keep that fact in mind when dealing with the "statistically insignificant" protestors. Illegitimi non carborundum! (I hope it's) Latin for: "Don't let the bastards get you down!" :) Dave - daveki@nebfef.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 21 13:59:45 1997 From: The Youngs To: "'Brer Bear'" , "halloween-l@netcom.com" Subject: RE: MIRC Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 16:51:08 -0500 Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com IRC is okay as long as everybody can get on the same NODE and a channel is established, I've had problems in the past, but then once again I'm up here in Canada, and I think they must hate Halloween, because all the cool stuff is in the states. Well except me and all the other frozen Canadians :) Still if you want to try I'll try to be there. Jacqui From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 21 14:08:37 1997 From: The Youngs To: "halloween-l@netcom.com" Subject: OT- Possible assistance Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 17:06:47 -0500 Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Well I'm not really techie either, at least not with anything electrical. I do just about any kind of craft, but that's usually a little cutsie for this list. I'm a programmer byprofession, but lately it's been mostly PC support and Database work. Still if you have questions or there's anything I can help with I'm here. Jacqui From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 21 15:02:06 1997 Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 17:56:04 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Fiber Optic Subject: What I'm good at.. Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Well my speciality is spfx lighting and mood lighting. I have done lots of interesting things with light for my outdoor/indoor haunts. And yes, I am the 16 year old on the list.. (the youngist I think..) Cya.. From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 21 15:04:23 1997 Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 18:01:59 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Fiber Optic Subject: Ideas about sound (Was Sound Insulation) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 12:08 PM 3/21/97 -0800, you wrote: >New topic. Since I'm dealing with small area again (garage), I'm interested >in any experience others have had with controlling the transmission of sound >from one side of a haunt to another. I'm planning a maze and I know that >this, in itself, helps. However, are there any cheap materials that anyone >has had especially good luck with? I've tried water heater insulation, but >it only comes in white. I don't mind loose material, but hope that there's >something good and inexpensive that comes in sheets or rolls or ??? I've >looked into authentic sound insulation and it's big bucks, so that's out. Hey Greg: This is an Idea for ya!! A really good sound insulation that I've used for a bunch of haunts is the thick whool army blankets. The green and grey/brown ones. I have about 100 of these from when My dad was a marine, he got them on surplus. I just tack them up and duct tape them togeather. The only problem is they hold heat REALLY well, so don't use to much lighting around them or you might have a fire (yes I have fireproofed mine). You also might want to check your loacal stage rental place. The place next to me (that I rent ALL my foggers/lighting/sound equp. from) stocks sound blankets, about 20 of these and their 2 dollers a week. I've even used those and they work ALOT better then the army blankets. Hope this helps. From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 21 15:11:01 1997 Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 18:09:15 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Fiber Optic Subject: Halloween and Religion NOTE: about wiccanism and paganism.. Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Accualy I'm glad this post came up! I am a Witch !!(one who practices forms of witchcraft/wiccanism/paganism) BTW: 'witch' is a uni-sexual term.. Halloween dates back WAY befor Jesus even came into the picture (please don't flame me on this, I have my references. :-) ) I am not an anti-christ. I believe their is a christian god, I just don't worship him/her (depending on who you talk to..) Information about Wiccanism/Paganism: Wiccanists and Paganists believe in MANY gods and goddesses. But their are 2 main "figures" a God and a Goddess. (simply termed as GOD and GODDESS) Many witches (such as myself) are VERY!!! intune with nature. (eg. we plant trees and cut our grass while singing !! :) not really!) But being into whith mother earth and nature is easy for anyone. If your interested in more information.. Do a search on the web for "The Witches Leage For Public Awareness" their you'll find TONZ of info on witchcraft. Oh: Halloween or Samhain (pronounced So-horne) is a night of the Witches New Year, January 1'st is not the new year for us.. Hope this Helps and Clears up/Informs everyone.. PLEASE DON'T FLAME ME!!! Fiber Optic-16 From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 21 15:56:11 1997 Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 17:50:05 -0600 From: James Brandt To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: MIRC Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com hiya folks I will admit that Kelly and i are IRC addicts...we have a java based chat on our homepage that we can use for these chats...or on the undernet there is a channel called #graveyard...It was started by a fellow hearse enthusiast, but he is also a lover of halloween...let me know wich Jimmy BTW I type slower than anyone :) -- "Morty's Mortuary, you stab 'em, we slab 'em" ____________________________ _|_ _ / ___/~~~ /------|------\ | ___|___ _|_/_______________|______|____\__\__|________,_ / R.I.P.\ \ _________________|____-_|-______|_____________) | The | <____// \|______|______|_______|_// \)_____> | Brandts | \___/ \___/ |_________| http://www.tecinfo.com/~ofm From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 21 16:06:24 1997 Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 18:03:09 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: John Wohlers Subject: Re: MIRC Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 10:46 PM 3/22/97 -0800, you wrote: >Has anyone looked into the MIRC chat client? And is there much inerest >in our having a regular chat Saturdays from 4:pm to say 10:pm PST? If so >I would be up for this. I am excited by how much ground could be covered >in a short time on the live chat. > >Rest in Peace > >Wil > I am quite familliar with the mIRC client. I spend considerable time on DALnet so if you have any questions you want to ask me, feel free to contact me there. My nick is "cap". To message me while there (and while using mIRC) just type "/msg cap " just replace the part with what ever you want to say and I'll get back to you if I'm around. John "cap" Wohlers ************************************************************* * We are star stuff. - Delenn (B5) * * John Wohlers O- * * johnwohlers@prairienet.com * * http://www.prairienet.com/jwohlers * ************************************************************* From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 21 16:12:03 1997 Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 18:10:17 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: John Wohlers Subject: Re: X10 Stuff Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 01:50 PM 3/21/97 EST, you wrote: > >I'm not sure where you saw the $589.95 price. Look at >http://www.techmall.com/smarthome/1610.html (Which is accessable off That sounds like the price of the JDS Timecommander, a self contained control system for X-10 and other devices... It is also available from HAS... >the "computer control" link from the first page I sent to the list) John ************************************************************* * We are star stuff. - Delenn (B5) * * John Wohlers O- * * johnwohlers@prairienet.com * * http://www.prairienet.com/jwohlers * ************************************************************* From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 21 16:18:42 1997 Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 16:19:23 -0500 From: Death Lord To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Official Halloween List Talent Pool Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Okay. All interested in listing their talents available for barter, trade or downright sale, send me your info just as you would like it to be read. Be sure to mention what your services are available for--i.e. cash or trade or free. I would like to keep these listing fairly short, say 75 words or less (If you have many talents to offer, use as much space as needed). Be sure to include an accurate e mail address. (If the address is wrong, it won't do anyone much good.) I will list these on my home page as the Official Halloween List Talent Pool for access by all who are looking for certain tips, goods or services. Telephone numbers are certainly welcome, but please remember your email. *****Please try to use the below templates so these can be uniform***** (note the MAIN topic of your abilities, even if you're great at gobs of stuff--for those that are simply a finished product, just list under "All Knowing") ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MAKE UP goulguy@grimreaper.com BLOOD WORKS Inc. Morty "The Mortician" Morrison Many years of experience mixing, applying and design of theatrical makeup. Also versed in latex moulding of body parts and other figures. Open to consultation per hourly basis or also time trades. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- LIGHTING lizzy@departed.com Lizzy "One is Never Enough" Borden Some experience working with specialty lighting, esp. HH. Have access to many theatrical suppliers for gels, lamps and all related items. Can suggest catalogs and offer phone no. of extensive list. Open to time trades and offer free ideas and reference for suppliers. Mail anytime. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PLEASE; Keep your MAIN TOPIC all in CAPITALS. Double check your email address spelling so it may be used directly. List a contact name and business name if applicable. Give enough info on your talents to identify your potential service or help. Clarify what your services are available for; money, time trade or free. The list will be located off my Dungeon page at; http://www.silcom.com/~crafters/playgate.htm Keep this url handy in your email "Keeper List" so you can reference it any time. Thanks guys and gouls. See you on the L. Wil -- X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X Rest in Peace. The Death Lord X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 21 17:18:47 1997 Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 17:10:58 -0800 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Greg Hope Subject: Re: Official Halloween List Talent Pool Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 04:19 PM 3/21/97 -0500, you wrote: >Okay. All interested in listing their talents available for barter, >trade or downright sale, send me your info just as you would like it to be >read. Thanks for the offer Wil! As long as there are no objections from the group, I'd be grateful for you to take over the talents/skills listing and I'll leave it out of the list for now. (whew!) Okay, everyone? Greg T (619) 945-4424 F (619) 726-2804 E ghope@mailhost1.csusm.edu From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 21 17:56:32 1997 Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 21:19:47 +0100 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: archival@li.com (kate carr/marc lougee) Subject: Re: Questions on dungeon walls Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com embedded mess. below: >Asking again if anyone's had experience with mixing polystyrene beads (like >those used to stuff beanbag chairs) into plaster to decrease the weight of >fabricated dungeon walls. Cliff Martin posted great plans that I intend to >follow, but I'm really shooting for the least weight possible (I might end >up storing these things above the cars in the garage off season). Are there >any other alternatives to the beads for adding volume without weight? >Shredded paycheck stubs or junk mail? Should I try adding yeast and letting >it rise? > >Greg > >T (619) 945-4424 >F (619) 726-2804 >E ghope@mailhost1.csusm.edu Greg, There are actually a number of inexpensive, easily gotten materials to use in place of the polystyrene beads for reducing the weight of plaster, especially useful for applications requiring a vertical surface. Some things I've used: vermiculite (found in a hardware store, Kmart, gardening supply store, etc.), sawdust,peanut shells, ground closed cell styrofoam (the type that is "beady"when broken up), dried peat (used to mix into top soil to "lighten" it for better aeration- found int the aforementioned places in big bags), ground cork, strofoam chunks, etc. This stuff all has excellent filler qualities, is cheap, and will add a bit of texture to plaster wall details... Good Luck! Marc archival@l.i.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 21 17:59:31 1997 Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 20:55:42 -0500 From: "J. Bentley" To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Special skills Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Greg Hope wrote: > > So far, I'm just thinking of this as an addition to the trusty member list > (the file you and others received by email). I've been pretty lazy about > getting a web page up with my own stuff and have some reservations regarding > posting member info a www page. I'd really like to hear some more comments > about this. A safe compromise might be setting up a table on Don's page > with name, email, state (or region, i.e., N,S,E,W), interests and skills. > It might be kind of neat to be able to search the list for a skill, interest > or locality, then click to email the person. Hey Greg. I understand the concern of posting information for all to see. I have a solution. I have created a directory under my business site which is password protected. The username and password can be sent to those who are on the list and request it. The information would then be rather secure. I can also assist in creating the page/pages and moving the information from the list to the page. Jack "O'Lantern" B. -- CEO/Owner DesignMasters, Inc. - Woodstock, GA http://www.dmwc.com Helping you make your mark in the on-line World From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 21 17:59:40 1997 Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 18:01:02 -0500 From: Death Lord To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Official Halloween List Talent Pool Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > MAKE UP goulguy@grimreaper.com BLOOD WORKS Inc. Morty "The > Mortician" Morrison > Many years of experience mixing, applying and design of > theatrical > makeup. Also versed in latex moulding of body parts and other > figures. > Open to consultation per hourly basis or also time trades. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > LIGHTING lizzy@departed.com Lizzy "One is Never Enough" Borden Some > experience > working with specialty lighting, esp. HH. Have access to many > theatrical > suppliers for gels, lamps and all related items. Can suggest > catalogs and > offer phone no. of extensive list. Open to time trades and > offer free > ideas and reference for suppliers. Mail anytime. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Obviously my email was destroyed by the phantoms of the internet, so let me just say here that the idea was to have a HEADING and then a few spaces later the email, then a few spaces later the referance name of the person offering the services. Then, the body of the message. So if anyone wants to see how it should REALLY look, please go to where all of these will be kept at; http://www.silcom.com/~crafters/talentpl.htm (This will be gated through a highly-traveled homepage I set up specifically for traffic-building at http://www.silcom.com/~crafters/playgate.htm) Wil -- X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X Rest in Peace. The Death Lord http://www.silcom.com/~crafters/playgate.htm X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 21 18:49:37 1997 From: Spookyfx@aol.com Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 21:42:38 -0500 (EST) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: I'm singing HH the blues.... Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com In a message dated 97-03-21 09:51:06 EST, you write: << Did you realize that Disneyland is laughing all the way to the bank since Knotts gains permission to use the Disney name in the Hanging each year? Or that Disney once sued Magic Mounta for 50 grand for using 7 seconds of the Fantasmic theme in the dolphin show (and it wasn't even a well known part of that soundtrack!).... Jerry, my take on it all? are you a fellow clone? :) >> ------------------------------------ I know I am being a little slow &~( but I did not understand the sentence: Did you realize that Disneyland is laughing all the way to the bank since Knotts gains permission to use the Disney name in the Hanging each year? Did Knotts get permission or were they sued for using the name? Jerry, my take on it all? are you a fellow clone? :) This was a joke I'm sure (but I did not get it...) did you mean that using canned music is not being different from other HH. If you did you have a point, but I am not musically inclined... I am not trying to be a jerk ( no, really). I just really want to understand what you meant. This Email thing gets me confused sometimes without a person’s face to help direct my thoughts..... sorry... Jerry {:~{ P.S. This dose bring up a subject about a NO music HH. I LIKE MUSIC in my HH but I went to a HH (best one in many many years called nightscares ) that did not use it and there were some great advantages to this. It created a fantastic foreboding feeling. Every little creak was spooky and when something did happen It scared my socks off! If I decide to go this route I have a lot of redesigning to do. The music helped cover many of my noisy devices. But the more I think about how really eerie (nay, TRULY SCARY) the no music atmosphere was, I don’t know......Something to think about.... Jerry (again) From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 21 18:51:43 1997 From: Spookyfx@aol.com Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 21:49:03 -0500 (EST) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Official Halloween List Talent Pool Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com In a message dated 97-03-21 20:59:49 EST, you write: << > Many years of experience mixing, applying and design of > theatrical > makeup. Also versed in latex moulding of body parts and other > figures. > Open to consultation per hourly basis or also time trades. >> ------------------------------- OOOOOOOOHHHHHH BARTER! I LIKE THAT IDEA! jerry From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 21 19:32:20 1997 Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 23:05:38 -0800 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Questions on dungeon walls Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Greg, Just remember I am the techno dummy of the 90's so if this is way off the wall let me know!! Why not use latex on the mold and then attach it to a very thin piece of plywood. Then you could just take it off the wood, put them in a box, lay the plywood over the cars and put the box in a corner. It would be light weight and easy to store. Just a thought. Go ahead tell me how far off I am !!! Kathy the new kid on the crypt mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 21 20:50:44 1997 From: Spookyfx@aol.com Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 23:47:59 -0500 (EST) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Hello Again! -Reply -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com In a message dated 97-03-21 15:07:13 EST, you write: << Besides, we plan on only unveiling our greatest ideas during the live chat on the weekends rather than on the list. SO LINK UP! Wil -- X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X Rest in Peace Death Lord http://www.silcom.com/~crafters/playgate.htm X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X >> UM...this kind of bothers me a little, I could understand holding back completely on some ideas for personal or proprietary reasons, but why would you do this to the other CONTRIBUTING list members. I Think I have added and or stirred up some very good information for all on the list, why hold out on those who cannot join you on the chat thing? I for one am just learning how to email..... jerry {:~[ From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 21 20:55:31 1997 From: Spookyfx@aol.com Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 23:53:24 -0500 (EST) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Sound insulation Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com In a message dated 97-03-21 15:17:14 EST, you write: << this, in itself, helps. However, are there any cheap materials that anyone has had especially good luck with? I've tried water heater insulation, but it only comes in white. I don't mind loose material, but hope that there's something good and inexpensive that comes in sheets or rolls or ??? I've looked into authentic sound insulation and it's big bucks, so that's out >> ----------------------------------- My first sound studio (when I was a teenager) was made with HANGING moving pads. It worked. You may be able to use thrift store quilts. From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 21 21:42:38 1997 From: htraver@dreamsys.com Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 20:54:18 -0700 Subject: Halloween and Religion (was Re: Message for Jim Ka To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Dave, if you want to read something really scary, there is this website selling a book "mommy, why don't we celebrate Halloween?" and it details "the truth" about the holiday and what to say to nonbeleivers. I'd be scared to read that book! [ Sent From: Dreamscape Systems - dreamsys.com ] [ Location: Van Nuys, CA - (818) 781-7529 ] From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 21 21:44:38 1997 From: htraver@dreamsys.com Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 20:52:18 -0700 Subject: RE: MIRC To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com The other thing with using an IRC channel would be avilability and what equipment is bein used. For example, I cannot access any form of MIRC to use in irc and instead use a basic term program. It works great for text mode. When you beign to get caught up in technological self gratification, you start cutting out more and more people who the channel is aimed for, and instead cater to a select group... Harry [ Sent From: Dreamscape Systems - dreamsys.com ] [ Location: Van Nuys, CA - (818) 781-7529 ] From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Mar 21 21:52:36 1997 Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 21:53:43 -0800 From: Death Lord To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Hello Again! -Reply -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com > UM...this kind of bothers me a little, I could understand holding back > completely > on some ideas for personal or proprietary reasons, but why would you do this > to the other CONTRIBUTING list members. > I Think I have added and or stirred up some very good information for all on > the list, > why hold out on those who cannot join you on the chat thing? > I for one am just learning how to email..... > > jerry {:~[