modern browser to see this.) The parts list is as follows: 330 resistor 1/2 watt 5% 10k pot 0.1uF/250v AC capacitor 3010 optotriac 2n6075 or bt136-500d triac 110v relay if you are going to control heavy equipment, not needed if you control small AC devices like a light bulb. That's it! Yours ghouly Jerry - @ --'---,--',---@ --'---,--',---@ --'---,--',---@ --'---,--',---@ ^v^ Esoteric Toys ^v^ (No one ever got anywhere by being NORMAL!) Web page: http://members.aol.com/Spookyfx/index.html @ --'---,--',---@ --'---,--',---@ --'---,--',---@ --'---,--',---@ From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Apr 4 01:15:51 1997 Date: Fri, 04 Apr 1997 01:04:42 -0800 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Iowa Chapman Subject: Re: Cemetery gates Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 12:26 AM 4/4/97 -0500, you wrote: >It did it again, > >whenever I start to type a letter, it automatically gets sent. Don't ask >me!!!!!!!!! > >I will try it one more time.......... > >I was thinking about making some cemetery gates and I have already got a lot >of help from Bob Andrews. > >I just have a few questions about some things. > >Number 1- What kind of paint should I use for pillars? I think grey will >not have enough detail. > >Number 2- I think I want to use wooden dowel rods for the bars. Does >anybody know how much a 8' tall, half inch wide dowel rod will cost? > >Number 3- I have an extremely large yard and I need a cheap way to make >gates to go around the whole yard. Any ideas? > >Thank you and it worked this time. > >Mike > Here was the idea I had, as we too have a large yard.. get that black PVC pipe you will need lots as they are your vertical poles, to attach them all together you would use like 2 vertical ones and cut holes into where the verticals would lay in , you could use the pvc cement to hold it together and possibly some black wire in a x format.. /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || <-- pvc vertical --||--||--||--||--||--||--||--||--||--||--||--||--||--||-<--pvc horizontal -------------------------------------------------------- || || || || || || || || || || || || || || --||--||--||--||--||--||--||--||--||--||--||--||--||--||-- ----------------------------------------------------------- || || || || || || || || || || || || \| || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || ------------------------------------------- <- close up of horizontal { } { } <-holes for verticals with holes for vertiacls ------------------------------------------- hope this helps From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Apr 4 03:06:41 1997 Date: Fri, 04 Apr 1997 03:05:29 -0800 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Iowa Chapman Subject: my web page Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Ok folks, I have been really trying to get my web page at least ready for some folks to check out what I have so far.. now I will be adding a voting area, and lots of other stuff soon, but if you would like get your huanted house/show on my Huant list then get over there and fill it out now. Let me know what you think about my site so far, I know I need a guestbook, that is coming along with a counter and some other goodies, pictures of our haunted castle.. and so on. So please drop by and check it out... http://wwww.best.com/~iowac/ From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Apr 4 05:09:37 1997 Date: Fri, 04 Apr 1997 07:58:45 -0500 From: ROGER ALEXANDER To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re:hi -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com >>> Richard Gauger 4/3/97 10:19 am >>> Bob Andrews asked if I have a website- sorry, but no. Death Lord (cool name) wanted to know a little about my skeleton display. It is one of those skeleton "kits" you can buy from places like Halloween Outlet or Special Effects Supply that I have placed in an old rocking chair. When it is completed, a motion detector will set off a tape recorder that will control R/C servos that make his mouth move in sync with the talking, his head turns, his eyes move, and his arm goes up and down, all while the rocking chair is set in motion by a small gearmotor. The control of the servos is done by one of Effective Engineering's controllers. I might add that I had to rework all the moving joints in the skeleton kit with bushings so they would stand the abuse. It should make the kiddies take notice. Rich_Gauger@MSN.com <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Excellent!! Only 1 request: PLANS!! DETAILS!! DRAWINGS!! "HOW TO" DETAILS!! :) Ok! So it's more than one. But it's still the same idea! ;) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Roger Alexander Phone: 812-854-4748 Naval Surface Warfare Center Fax: 812-854-5657 Bldg 64 Code 111RA Crane, IN 47522 INTERNET: alexander_r@crane.navy.mil Supporting the Fleet through Supply! From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Apr 4 05:14:18 1997 Date: Fri, 04 Apr 1997 08:09:51 -0500 From: ROGER ALEXANDER To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Cemetery gates -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com >>> 4/4/97 12:26 am >>> *snip* Number 2- I think I want to use wooden dowel rods for the bars. Does anybody know how much a 8' tall, half inch wide dowel rod will cost? *snip* Mike <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Built a "cage" last year for my HH room and uses 1/2" electric conduit pipe. Looked great and rattled nice too! Didn't paint them though. was dark enough to use as is. For painting, sand them lightly and clean with a good stripper or cleaner to get the "coating" off and prime them before painting. Price is about comparible to wood dowel, the look is more realistic, and they're lighter. Plus you can reuse them for what they are later! ;) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Roger Alexander Phone: 812-854-4748 Naval Surface Warfare Center Fax: 812-854-5657 Bldg 64 Code 111RA Crane, IN 47522 INTERNET: alexander_r@crane.navy.mil Supporting the Fleet through Supply! From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Apr 4 05:24:43 1997 Date: Fri, 04 Apr 1997 08:14:29 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Gary Engle Subject: How is it done? Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com In the Haunted House at Disney they have pictures on the walls with eyes that follow you as you go by. How is this accomplished? What would it take to duplicate? Not only in pictures but any other prop with eyes. Is the circuit for this maybe already availabe somewhere. ...Gary From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Apr 4 05:27:41 1997 Date: Fri, 04 Apr 1997 08:21:33 -0500 From: ROGER ALEXANDER To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Cemetery gates -Reply Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Oh! Forgot something. The top and bottom of the cage "wall" (was attached to walls in a corner, 1 cage wall diagonally), was 2 - 2x4" with holes drilled in them just big enough to fit in the conduit pipes and just deep enough to hold them securely with no slip up and down. To open the cage, the holes in the top 2x4 for the 2 pipes closest to the wall were drilled deeper than the rest. That way the pipes would slip up into the holes far enough to insert them into the bottom 2x4. Had to be careful not to "rattle" those 2 very hard! And once I did by accident and one bar came out! Like to have given one lady a heart attack cause she thought I was gonna get loose and attack her!! >:) I hope this description helps!! --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Roger Alexander Phone: 812-854-4748 Naval Surface Warfare Center Fax: 812-854-5657 Bldg 64 Code 111RA Crane, IN 47522 INTERNET: alexander_r@crane.navy.mil Supporting the Fleet through Supply! From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Apr 4 05:40:22 1997 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: David Smith Subject: Re: Flaming Skulls - material option Date: Fri, 4 Apr 1997 13:32:27 +0000 Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Aneurysm: I love the thought of a row of Flaming Skulls! What a great mental image! As for material, have you considered cermics? I couple years ago I had a strange, desparate need to create some ceramic Halloween stuff (this was in the Spring when everyone else was making Easter stuff!!!). I'd never worked with ceramic so it was a whole new experience for me. Anyway, among other things, I made a very shiny, white skull. The mouth, nose, and eyes are open and there is a hole in the bottom. I think it was designed to be a coin bank (kewl!) but it wouldn't be hard to open the top to allow a flame to escape. If you've never worked with cermics there are 2 "stages" of a piece: "greenware" is when the piece is 1st cast. It is very soft (and fragile) but firms-up as it dries. This is the stage where the casting is "cleaned-up", ie mold seams are removed & smoothed and any imperfections in the surface(s) of the piece are touched-up. This is also when modifications can be made (like carving/cutting a hole in the top of a skull). When the piece is cleaned to your satisfaction, it goes into a kiln to be cooked at about 600 degrees for 8 - 12 hours. When removed and cooled, the piece is in the 2nd stage: bisque. It is now a hard, bright white piece ready to have whatever finish you want. To get the glossy, glass-like finish, the piece will need to be re-fired once your chosen finish is applied. The whole thing can be done in a couple of days, depending on your schedule. I was going to the ceramic shop once a week so my projects typically took 2 - 3 weeks. But I often had 2 or 3 pieces going at the same time. Now you got me thinkin'... Even a votiv-size candle inside the skull would look pretty good. Maybe half-a-dozen of 'em along the railing of the front porch deck... As a short tangent... My favorite piece that I did involved using a store-bought pumpkin-carving pattern and using it on a greenware pumpkin. The pattern is a bat in front of a full moon. The bat is similar in shape to the Bat Signal from the TV version (Adam West) of Bat Man. The pattern looked GREAT on a real pumpkin and in ceramic it will last forever, or at least until it gets dropped. I've got pictures of both versions but nowhere to post 'em. Anyway... I hope this is a useful suggestion. I think I may attempt it over the next few months, using either candle (easy) or the tiki-torch you mentioned (harder?). DcS From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Apr 4 05:53:26 1997 Date: Fri, 04 Apr 1997 06:49:46 -0600 From: Lauren Jones To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Haunts Listing Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com For those of you who sent Halloween listings to Willy Mammoth, they are getting through. His email isn't going out just now. For you new folks, the haunts listing isn't just for commercially run haunted houses: there's a special section up front for haunted private homes. So, check out http://www.geocities.com/heartland/2007/haunts.html and send your info in! As soon as there are a few more 1997 listings, the 1996 listing will be replaced, but it will give you an idea of what info to send. From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Apr 4 07:05:11 1997 Date: Fri, 04 Apr 1997 07:01:48 -0800 From: Bob Andrews To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Cemetery gates Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com BUSH134@aol.com wrote: > I just have a few questions about some things. > > Number 1- What kind of paint should I use for pillars? I think grey will > not have enough detail. I used a utility gray paint for the pillars for a mid-range color. Then I used light gray spraypaint ans a highlight and black spray paint as a shadow color. Here's a pic. http://www.anaserve.com/~BoBandrews/mygate5.jpg > > Number 2- I think I want to use wooden dowel rods for the bars. Does > anybody know how much a 8' tall, half inch wide dowel rod will cost? I used 3/4" x 3/4" x 4 ft redwood for the bars, and 1"x2" x 8ft firring strips as crossbars. I used wood screws to hold it together. Then I used flat black house paint. I saw a ad for Home Depot, a big home improvment store, they had 1/2" pvc conduit for 97 cents a 10 foot length. > > Number 3- I have an extremely large yard and I need a cheap way to make > gates to go around the whole yard. Any ideas? My fence is 60 feet long, and cost $500. So, no. -- Bob Andrews bandrews@inreach.com http://www.anaserve.com/~BoBandrews From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Apr 4 07:25:11 1997 Date: Fri, 04 Apr 1997 07:28:38 -0800 From: Death Lord To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Hey, A Few Questions.. Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com > 3) Is anyone else planning for next year?? :) > > Thanx Alot, > Fiber Opic I'm working everyday for next year and have been actively planning and scheaming since last Oct 31st! -- X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X Rest in Peace Death Lord http://www.silcom.com/~crafters/haloween.htm X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Apr 4 08:12:54 1997 Date: Fri, 04 Apr 1997 08:16:06 -0800 From: Death Lord To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: hi Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Richard Gauger wrote: When it is completed, a motion detector will set off a tape > recorder that will control R/C servos that make his mouth move in sync with > the talking, his head turns, his eyes move, and his arm goes up and down, all > while the rocking chair is set in motion by a small gearmotor. The control of > the servos is done by one of Effective Engineering's controllers. I might add > that I had to rework all the moving joints in the skeleton kit with bushings > so they would stand the abuse. It should make the kiddies take notice. > > Rich_Gauger@MSN.com We would greatly appreciate a photo play-by-play if this is at all possible. I found this invaluable while putting together the Trash Can Trauma. Once a person can see how you accomplish this highly unusual task, they can start to envision themselves doing it too. However, speaking on behalf of the thought impaired, without these and a few words of explanation, we are lost at sea. :~} I hope this isn't asking too much. I thank you for your reply and hope to see more of your animatronic extraordinare. -- X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X Rest in Peace Death Lord http://www.silcom.com/~crafters/haloween.htm X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Apr 4 09:09:25 1997 Date: Fri, 04 Apr 1997 08:55:28 -0800 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Greg Hope Subject: Re: my web page Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com So please drop by and check it out... > >http://wwww.best.com/~iowac/ > Iowa, you've done a fantastic job. Your image map is exactly what I've been looking for, so now I humbly ask for permission to copy it for a Halloween-L member list directory. I've been promising this to the rest of the group for a while and have been on the hunt for a good map graphic to put it all together. By the way, you have some really nifty animated graphics on your pages. If I weren't such a fuddy-duddy about page design, I'd be begging for those, too! Regards, Greg T (760) 945-4424 F (760) 726-2804 E ghope@mailhost1.csusm.edu From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Apr 4 10:24:03 1997 Date: Fri, 04 Apr 1997 10:15:37 -0800 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Greg Hope Subject: Last call for member list [and banter] Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hi, everyone. Thanks for your patience with these postings. Today (midnight, Friday, 4/4/97) is the deadline for submissions and changes for this version of the member list. Within a week (free time allowing) I'll solicit requests for copies. At that time, I'll also be asking for preferred wordprocessor formats, e.g., Wordperfect, MS Word, ASCII. I'm getting closer to putting up a web page. When that's done, I'll set up a form for sending info for the member list and, hopefully, will have a CGI for requesting a copy. Also, I'm getting closer to getting a graphic member map up. Again, thanks for everyone's patience. I haven't forgotten about any of these offers, I've just been short on time. Regards, Greg in Vista T (760) 945-4424 F (760) 726-2804 E ghope@mailhost1.csusm.edu From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Apr 4 10:51:59 1997 To: Halloween-L From: William E Rompala Date: 4 Apr 97 13:32:58 EDT Subject: [HAL] New Halloween Member Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Well, folks. I'm back- not that you've noticed my absence. ;-) The Newest member of the Halloween-l has entered the world: My daughter, Cassandra, was born on Thursday March 27th. I'll have to transcribe her words of wisdom on haunts until she can reach the keyboard. ;-) Yeah, this is banter, but you guys are like family. (or a support group for People Who Don't Wish To Recover From Halloweenism) ;-) -W William Rompala, Rompala Consulting http://www.rompalaconsulting.com/ Sleep Deprivation is a Creativity Booster: Try It. From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Apr 4 13:06:32 1997 Date: Fri, 04 Apr 1997 12:57:20 -0800 From: Death Lord To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Last call for member list [and banter] Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Greg Hope wrote: > > Hi, everyone. Thanks for your patience with these postings. > > Today (midnight, Friday, 4/4/97) is the deadline for submissions and changes > for this version of the member list. Please REPLACE my URL with the one below I submitted to you a while ago. This is the final location. Wil "The Death Lord" Santa Maria Ca. crafters@silcom.com http://www.silcom.com/~crafters/haloween.htm Furniture designer. Can help with ideas for construction of props that need to be lightweight yet strong. -- X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X Rest in Peace Death Lord http://www.silcom.com/~crafters/haloween.htm X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Apr 4 13:09:45 1997 Date: Fri, 04 Apr 1997 13:01:16 -0800 From: Death Lord To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: [HAL] New Halloween Member Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com William E Rompala wrote: The Newest member of the Halloween-l has entered the world: > My daughter, Cassandra, was born on Thursday March 27th. CONGRATS Willam. Spoil her good, not everyone gets to raise a girl. X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X Rest in Peace Death Lord http://www.silcom.com/~crafters/haloween.htm X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Apr 4 13:11:57 1997 Date: Fri, 04 Apr 1997 13:15:20 -0800 From: Death Lord To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Red Light District Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Kathy's page is really excellent. If you haven't checked it out yet, do so. It's got some great ideas, pics and links! Also, she mentions on the tips links about using a battery-operated flashing bicycle tail light tossed inside a pumkin to give it a flaming effect. This is a great idea, which also made me think about the large foam pumpkin I use that has a small light bulb in the bottom. What if I put a "Blinky' in line going to the pumkin and put in a red x-mas bulb--would it produce the relatively same effect? Anyway, if anyone has tried this, tell me what it looks like, and if its worth messing at all with. Wil -- X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X Rest in Peace Death Lord http://www.silcom.com/~crafters/haloween.htm X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Apr 4 15:41:14 1997 Date: Fri, 4 Apr 97 15:26:30 PST From: oliver@nemesis.saic.com (Thomas W Oliver) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: [HAL] New Halloween Member Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com > > The Newest member of the Halloween-l has entered the world: > My daughter, Cassandra, was born on Thursday March 27th. > Congratulations!!! B-) Have a virtual chocolate cigar! May her life be filled with wonder & merryment, and may she always find friends behind the masks! THomas THomas W Oliver |'Demons are a Ghoul's best fiend.' (TWO)" Network Security Officer | telephone: 619 458-2175 Science Applications International Corp.| fax: 619 535-7860 4110 Campus Point Court MS G2 | e-mail: oliver@nemesis.saic.com San Diego, CA 92121 | e-mail: Thomas.W.Oliver@saic.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Apr 4 15:57:35 1997 Date: Fri, 04 Apr 1997 14:53:45 -0800 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Iowa Chapman Subject: Re: my web page Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 08:55 AM 4/4/97 -0800, you wrote: >So please drop by and check it out... >> >>http://wwww.best.com/~iowac/ >> >Iowa, you've done a fantastic job. Your image map is exactly what I've been >looking for, so now I humbly ask for permission to copy it for a Halloween-L >member list directory. I've been promising this to the rest of the group for >a while and have been on the hunt for a good map graphic to put it all >together. By the way, you have some really nifty animated graphics on your >pages. If I weren't such a fuddy-duddy about page design, I'd be begging for >those, too! > >Regards, >Greg > >T (760) 945-4424 >F (760) 726-2804 >E ghope@mailhost1.csusm.edu > Yeah have at it.. you will find that I was not the orignal creator of the haunts list, or some of the graphix, the animation stuff I find all over from folks. I will be adding in a reference to the hautns list, she told me it was ok to use it, matter of fact she seemed to have forgotten she had it till I sent her the site address. I had to do ALOT of cleaning up on it, as things were big time just smashed together on long long long lines, instead of having returns and breaks.. it is pretty easy to set up now, as I have created a directory for the states as she had them all jumbled together. Now I give her thanks and praise for making it.. hehe just that it took me a bit of time to get it in a more presentable and easy to work with state. Thanks for the compliments .. I will be adding in more stuff.. so stay tuned.. From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Apr 4 16:29:07 1997 Date: Fri, 04 Apr 1997 16:23:13 -0800 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Iowa Chapman Subject: web site Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Can someone tell me where the site is where I can see past goodies... and stuff on projects that people have done... and information regarding past postings I think you folks called it the halloween archives.. or something of that nature.. thanks in advance.. From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Apr 4 16:32:22 1997 Date: Fri, 04 Apr 1997 18:26:18 -0600 From: Gertrude Smith To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: [HAL] New Halloween Member Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Death Lord wrote: > > William E Rompala wrote: > The Newest member of the Halloween-l has entered the world: > > My daughter, Cassandra, was born on Thursday March 27th. > > CONGRATS Willam. Spoil her good, not everyone gets to raise a girl. > > X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X > Rest in Peace > Death Lord > http://www.silcom.com/~crafters/haloween.htm > X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X Not to worry! We turn out JUST FINE! The Raptor From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Apr 4 17:59:36 1997 Date: Fri, 04 Apr 1997 17:58:57 -0800 From: Death Lord To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: EVENTS AND INFORMATION WEB SITES Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Iowa Chapman wrote: > > Can someone tell me where the site is where I can see past goodies... and > stuff on projects that people have done... and information regarding past > postings > > I think you folks called it the halloween archives.. or something of that > nature.. > > thanks in advance.. Here are some, hope they help. The Flying Crank Ghost is already on a web page. Have a look at: http://members.aol.com/phanmech/files.html Which will point you to Doug Ferguson's WONDERFUL illustrations of how to construct the mechanism, and how it looks in action. You will also find a text description of the ghost at: http://members.aol.com/phanmech/fcghost.txt Then there is the 94-96 archives at http://members.aol.com/phanmech/index.html Bob Andrews site for a number of items http://www.anaserve.com/~BoBandrews Finally check out the '97 archives at http://www.silcom.com/~crafters/haloween.htm -- X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X Rest in Peace Death Lord http://www.silcom.com/~crafters/haloween.htm X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Apr 4 18:17:58 1997 Date: Fri, 04 Apr 1997 21:14:14 -0500 From: "J. Bentley" To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: web site Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Iowa Chapman wrote: > > Can someone tell me where the site is where I can see past goodies... and > stuff on projects that people have done... and information regarding past > postings > > I think you folks called it the halloween archives.. or something of that > nature.. > > thanks in advance.. Here ya go... http://www.calweb.com/~bertino/halloween.html Jack B. -- CEO/Owner DesignMasters, Inc. - Woodstock, GA http://www.dmwc.com Helping you make your mark in the on-line World From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Apr 4 19:02:08 1997 From: htraver@dreamsys.com Date: Fri, 4 Apr 1997 18:56:58 -0700 Subject: How is it done? To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Gary, the pictures that follow with their eyes is a bizaare thick that is patented by them. It uses to electronics, except for lighting, but basically it is a NEGATIVE mold of a bust, backlit. There is a tiny 1/4 rim around the edge of the mold, masking the edge. The angle you view it at changes the way you look at it, so it appears to folow your eyes. That way it works for everyone who views it. Not that hard to build, either.... Harry [ Sent From: Dreamscape Systems - dreamsys.com ] [ Location: Van Nuys, CA - (818) 781-7529 ] From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Apr 4 19:11:54 1997 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Jim Kadel Subject: Fright Lite Date: Fri, 4 Apr 1997 20:08:21 -0700 Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com After viewing some of the tremendous Web pages from the members of Halloween-L, I'm almost embarrassed to ask everyone to peer in at the description of the 1st product of my corporate enterprise. Trying to get a business started has kept my Haunt Master Products, Inc. Web pages effort, so far, to a "function" before "form" priority. Anyway I think that you may be interested in reading FRIGHT LITE a product that should be available by May 15th. To those who have already visited the site - this info represents the latest update. |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| Jim Kadel (jimk@rica.net) Haunt Master Products, Inc http://members.aol.com/hmpi |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Apr 4 20:03:50 1997 Date: Fri, 04 Apr 1997 20:01:21 -0800 From: Bob Andrews To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Fright Lite Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Jim Kadel wrote: > Trying to get a business started has kept my Haunt Master Products, Inc. Jim, I'm interested in selling stuff, but I'm having dificulty finding an affordable product liability insurance carrier. Are you paying a reasonable amount for your product liability insurance, and would you recommend your carrier? -- Bob Andrews bandrews@inreach.com http://www.anaserve.com/~BoBandrews From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Apr 4 20:50:49 1997 Date: Fri, 4 Apr 1997 22:50:32 -0600 (CST) From: John Dolan To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Fire Codes (soapbox version) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com On Fri, 4 Apr 1997 Spookyfx@aol.com wrote: > ------------------------------------------------ > I worked in the FIRE ALARM and NURSE CALL SYSTEMS > industry for over 5 years. > I was speaking from that perceptive, not from my HH experience! > Your going to have to pull a rabbit out of your hat to > convince me the system dose NOT need to be improved! It was not my intention to convey that the codes as they are written are appropriate in every situation.In fact I wrote that the codes came as a result of an individual fire.I would argue that you need to follow every code written if your haunt is in a theme park and is made up of several semi-trailers linked together.But I doubt such a haunt even exists today (In fact in ILL only one haunt to my knowledge even uses the semi- trailer arrangement).As for the rest of us, I whole heartly believe that there is room for improvement.Every situation is different however.A HH that is 10,000 sq. feet,has 30 rooms and runs 1200 customers an hour is going to have much different safety requirements than a 900 sq.ft.,6 rm., HH that has only 100 patrons an hour.Presently there are no guidelines for such differences.Until there are it would be extremely beneficial for an haunt operator (especially new ones) to be able to work with their FI in order to decide on mutually exceptable safety requirements for their particular HH.Understanding the job requirements of a FI is the first step,IMHO,in building a professional working relationship. > And that the power to waive rules dose not make up for the > fact that the rules should be reasonable to adhere to > balanced with acceptable risk. Agreed.But in order to achieve agreed upon "acceptable safety standards" you need to work with your FI.Building mutual respect will require that you demonstrate that have considered safety concerns very thoroughly. I'm not trying to preach that every FI is a saint.Like any industry you will find all different personalities that you have to contend with. I just happen to believe that a respectfull approach will get you much further than an antagonistic one. > If I do not charge a dollar > for my HH the inspectors cant close me down. > WHY DOSE CHARGING A DOLLAR MAKE THE HH > MORE DANGEROUS? If the rule is justified to protect > people than it should applied whether you are profiting > or doing it for fun, or doing it for charity! > WHY SHOULD A CHARITY BE ALLOWED TO PUT > PEOPLE IN "DANGER"? I seriously doubt that your local authorities will stand by idely while some venue is putting their patons in danger.If they do, it is only a matter of time before some sue-happy participant is going to come by and take them to the bank.Now as to why you are held to different standards because you charge a fee,all I can say is CONSUMER PROTECTION. It doesn't matter if your a large corporation or a local hot dog vendor, if you are going to charge for any type of goods or services you must assume the liabilty of such.As far as HH go,liability means that you are going to provide a venue that is safe for all participants.This is not something to consider lightly. > NO matter what you say the rules are made by politics > and not for realistic concern.... Pick up a copy of the investigation of the fire I described in yesterdays post from your local fire department.The investigation is fairly detailed. Read it and then tell me where the "politics" were involved. This post is not intended to be a public "flame" but more of a public plea.As I stated yesterday FI have two main responsibilities,I'd like to amend that by stating that HH operators also have two responsibilities in terms of safety:first and above all to their patrons,and secondly to their fellow HH operators.If one operator screws up due to negligence we will all pay the price. JD jdolan@titan.iwu.edu From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Apr 4 21:59:30 1997 Date: Fri, 04 Apr 1997 22:39:12 -0800 From: jrbaas To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Hey, A Few Questions.. Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Fiber Optic wrote: > > I have a few questions for the group: > > 3) Is anyone else planning for next year?? :) > > Thanx Alot, > Fiber Opic Yes !! As the years and obsession) have progressed, we have spent more and more time preparing (or planning at least). Now it is a year long thing. We are even getting ready to plant our giant pumpkins soon!! Julie and Dwayne The crypt keepin' 2 From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Apr 4 22:02:38 1997 Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 00:56:56 -0500 From: Craig To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Fire Codes (soapbox version) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com John Dolan wrote: > > Pick up a copy of the investigation of the fire I described in yesterdays > post from your local fire department.The investigation is fairly detailed. > Read it and then tell me where the "politics" were involved. > This post is not intended to be a public "flame" but more of a public > plea.As I stated yesterday FI have two main responsibilities,I'd like > to amend that by stating that HH operators also have two responsibilities > in terms of safety:first and above all to their patrons,and secondly to > their fellow HH operators.If one operator screws up due to negligence we > will all pay the price. > JD > jdolan@titan.iwu.edu Politics won't be involved in every situation...but anybody who thinks that it doesn't play a part in some way for some houses across the US are just fooling themselves. I agree that is an operator "cuts" corners to save a buck, then sure, this person could make it bad for everyone. But in some small towns where they don't want you, that is just one easy way to get rid of you. Craig From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Apr 4 22:27:48 1997 From: Spookyfx@aol.com Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 01:25:04 -0500 (EST) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Fire Codes (soapbox version) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com In a message dated 97-04-05 00:30:38 EST, you write: << Pick up a copy of the investigation of the fire I described in yesterdays post from your local fire department. The investigation is fairly detailed. Read it and then tell me where the "politics" were involved. This post is not intended to be a public "flame" but more of a public plea.As I stated yesterday FI have two main responsibilities,I'd like to amend that by stating that HH >> ----------------------------------------- I agreed with most of what you said up to this point. KNEE jerk reactions to a few terrible accidents do NOT make good policy. This is how we got stuck with "3 strikes your out" which is causing more problems in California than it was intended to solve. If I told you I had an invention that would revolutionize the world but it would kill the same number of people each year that populate a city the size of San Francisco; would you want the invention? even if it would do great things? If you said NO! you would have taken the WHEEL away from the world! My point is that the rules are treating us (US citizens) like dummies that cant provide for ourselves and use PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. I mention how easy it was for me to develop my colored contact lens in New Zealand because they don’t treat their citizens in this manner. But New Zealand dose not have a alarming number of citizens going blind. Again I say that the rules are only politically motivated because if they were intended ONLY to protect people, they would be enforced, NOT WAIVED! NOT MANY OTHER LAWS CAN JUST BE WAIVED by the enforcing officers. This is what you get when laws are made by individuals who are NOT ELECTED, rather individuals who PAY to be in the association. Therefor small businesses that can not pay to have their own people in the association are NOT represented! Read wil’s post on his trip through the red tape zone over his small business. I is a good example of what I am talking about. I do believe in making a HH as safe as possible because of ETHICS and the liability. This is were the real power to control ANY careless business is! The same way I would be protected from your carelessness of driving a care while too sleepy. MANY more people die in car accidents than HH or any other business but all you have to do to get a drivers licenses is pass a written test to see if you understand safety. I think this is hypocritical and hypocrisy DOSE upset me even more than the fire codes. jerry (the radical, libertarian) time for another tea party.... }:~P From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Fri Apr 4 22:31:50 1997 Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 23:33:34 -0700 From: Death Lord To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: EVENTS AND INFORMATION WEB SITES Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Death Lord wrote: > > Here are some, hope they help. > > The Flying Crank Ghost is already on a web page. > Have a look at: > http://members.aol.com/phanmech/files.html > Which will point you to Doug Ferguson's WONDERFUL illustrations of how > to construct the mechanism, and how it looks in action. > > You will also find a text description of the ghost at: > http://members.aol.com/phanmech/fcghost.txt > > Then there is the 94-96 archives at > http://members.aol.com/phanmech/index.html OOpsss! This was the wrong url for the 94-96 archives. The correct one is : http://www.calweb.com/~bertino/halloween.html > Bob Andrews site for a number of items > http://www.anaserve.com/~BoBandrews > > Finally check out the '97 archives at > http://www.silcom.com/~crafters/haloween.htm > Wil -- X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X Rest in Peace. The Death Lord http://www.silcom.com/~crafters/haloween.htm X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Apr 5 00:57:22 1997 Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 00:42:26 -0800 From: Brian Rich To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: FX Supply Company Info Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Brian D. Oberquell wrote: > > Tri-Ess Sciences now has a website: > > http://www.4dreamland.com/tri-ess.html I just checked it out, and it is a brief list of products and a contact address. The catalog is $5.00 -- Brian Wesley Rich ------------------------------------------------- Visit my amateur science page. Chemicals, sample experiments, and good ideas! http://www.west.net/~science/ From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Apr 5 00:57:28 1997 Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 00:25:47 -0800 From: Brian Rich To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Magazines Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com BUSH134@aol.com wrote: > > Did the list ever get my magazine companies? Well, I for one got it. Thanks! -- Brian Wesley Rich ------------------------------------------------- Visit my amateur science page. Chemicals, sample experiments, and good ideas! http://www.west.net/~science/ From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Apr 5 05:57:03 1997 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Jim Kadel Subject: Re: Fright Lite Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 06:53:38 -0700 Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Bob, I don't think anything in the liability area is "affordable" !! What ever happened to people being RESPONSIBLE for their own fault, actions? Think I'm paying around $600 bucks a year for a million plus, liability. Anyway, I use an independent insurance broker who "shops around" for the best deals. I'm no expert as you can tell and so can't recommend a particular carrier. Jim >I'm interested in selling stuff, but I'm having dificulty finding an >affordable product liability insurance carrier. Are you paying a >reasonable amount for your product liability insurance, and would you >recommend your carrier? > >-- >Bob Andrews >bandrews@inreach.com >http://www.anaserve.com/~BoBandrews |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| Jim Kadel (jimk@rica.net) Haunt Master Products, Inc http://members.aol.com/hmpi |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Apr 5 06:37:33 1997 Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 06:35:53 -0800 From: Bob Andrews To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Fright Lite Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Jim Kadel wrote: > > Bob, > > I don't think anything in the liability area is "affordable" !! What ever > happened to > people being RESPONSIBLE for their own fault, actions? > > Think I'm paying around $600 bucks a year for a million plus, liability. > Anyway, I use an independent insurance broker who "shops around" for the > best deals. I'm no expert as you can tell and so can't recommend a > particular carrier. > > Jim Jim, I went to one guy who wanted to charge me $10,000 a year for a million liability. $600 sounds pretty affordable. -- Bob Andrews bandrews@inreach.com http://www.anaserve.com/~BoBandrews From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Apr 5 09:48:43 1997 Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 09:47:42 -0800 (PST) From: Don Bertino To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Event Control Timer Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com On Wed, 2 Apr 1997, Jim Kadel wrote: Hi Dave and Jim, > Good analysis, thanks! I've sent my original ECT.EXE to list members who > requested it today as they couldn't get it from the Archived (misnamed file). > > As your message to Halloween-L (above) will quickly fade from memory, I'd > opt for the 2nd of your alternative answers to be applied as soon as possible. > > Am sending a copy of this directly to Don Bertino and will ask him to > UUdecode the > Archive posted file and leave it named: ECT.EXE. Been there, done that... :) Thanks for the heads up. I have also split the archives up into 2mb chunks for people to read easier. don bertino@netcom.com ____/^\_____________________________________ Disney ascii art & / \ || FDC MCP || / \ animations are at <______\ [] [] [] || [] [] [] || [] [] [] /______> http://www.calweb.com \----------------||----------||----------------/=== /~bertino===============\______________||__________||______________/===== From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Apr 5 10:16:19 1997 Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 10:12:49 -0800 (PST) From: Don Bertino To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Cool stuff and a little help. Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com On Wed, 2 Apr 1997, Jason R wrote: > >Don't feel bad about being buried under a ton of e-mail! I just > >discovered this list in 4/97 NETGUIDE "365 Best Places to Hang Out" Too cool!!! (http://www.netguide.com I'll buy the catalog though... :) > Agh! That explans why there has been SOOO much traffic on this list latelty. > > Don.. It's really getting time for a diegest version. The place I was all set to move to just raised their prices 300%. If anyone has any ideas where we can get a digest version, please EMAIL ME DIRECTLY. Thanks don bertino@netcom.com ____/^\_____________________________________ Disney ascii art & / \ || FDC MCP || / \ animations are at <______\ [] [] [] || [] [] [] || [] [] [] /______> http://www.calweb.com \----------------||----------||----------------/=== /~bertino===============\______________||__________||______________/===== From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Apr 5 10:47:00 1997 Date: Thu, 03 Apr 1997 03:45:48 -0600 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Ysengrin Werewolf Subject: Re: Fire Codes and Myths Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com 99% of the fire marshals we've worked with are reasonable - considering their emphasis on public safety, not a bad thing IMHO - a couple have had to enforce 'overzealous' local codes, and only one allowed his personal feelings to result it trying to shut a haunt down. Religious concerns on his part? No - Lance (the owner) was dating his daughter and he didn't like that. The appeals process is long enough that - unless you've got a permanent haunt - you're stuck with whatever the local inspector says. The national fire codes are generally very well thought out and workable. A lot of local addendum to the code are _not_. A lot of the other regulations are _not_. And that's where the problem is. FYI - I recently found out that one of our local small towns bans 'seasonal walk-through attractions' totally. Ysengrin Werewolf (aka Silvermane) Member Verdun Manor pack http://www.webcom.com/verdun/verdun.html From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Apr 5 15:53:49 1997 Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 11:02:02 -0800 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Greg Hope Subject: It's ready and I need some marching orders... Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Okay, the updated member list is ready to "ship". Please send me a request by email to receive your copy and please specify if you want it formatted for Wordperfect (.WPD), MS Word (.DOC) or ASCII text (.TXT). ============================== PLEASE DO NO SEND YOUR REQUEST TO THE LISTSERV. PLEASE USE MY EMAIL ADDRESS: ghope@mailhost1.csusm.edu ============================== I also am on the brink of setting up my own humble Halloween web pages. In doing this, I went ahead and created a directory page and a member list page for each state. Without some kind of discussion in the group, I won't upload anything related to the member list onto the server. What I need is this: ----Should our member list simply be on the web, instead of an email attachment, should it be both or should it not be on the web? ----If we have our member list on the web, should it be password protected? I would really appreciate some comments about these topics. Consider these things too: ----I will be setting up a form for submitting your information for the member list. ----I have been qualifying people to receive a copy of the list by checking the majordomo for their names as current subscribers. Hypothetically, a person could subscribe for a month, request and receive the list, then unsubscribe. Is this much different from having the list on a web page? ----Finally, this is last time that I will supply a copy of the list to someone who has not shared some info about themselves. I've thought it over and it just doesn't seem fair. To this end, I have culled a large number of people who just replied "Gomer, from Arkansas" from the list. I know I've been saying that participation is voluntary, and it is, but getting a copy will depend on participating in building the list - being a part of it. As always, thanks for your patience with these postings. It's off topic, but it concerns privacy. Greg in Vista T (760) 945-4424 F (760) 726-2804 E ghope@mailhost1.csusm.edu From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Apr 5 18:19:31 1997 Date: Fri, 04 Apr 1997 18:53:05 -0800 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Hey, A Few Questions.. Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hi Ghouls, 1. I bought my flash supplies from Theatre Effects. they were very helpful and had good prices. I don't know it anyone on the list carries that sort of supplies. 2. NO 3. YES!! almost every minute of my waking hours!! Kathy the new kid on the crypt mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Apr 5 18:43:12 1997 Date: Fri, 04 Apr 1997 19:16:52 -0800 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: KATHY"S THEATER MAGIC and the burned out brain cells... Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Jerry, Well we took a small TV and our transfer projector. We opened up the projector and set the small TV in close to the mirror. Then we hung a white screen on the wall. We hooked the VCR up to the TV and played the movie. It showed on the TV, reflected on the mirror, and projected through the lens and onto the wall!! Instant projector!! We are working on the little details but we do have a great start. Kathy the new kid on the crypt mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sat Apr 5 21:06:10 1997 Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 00:04:56 -0500 From: Mike Sciascia To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Last call for member list [and banter] Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Greg Hope wrote: > > Hi, everyone. Thanks for your patience with these postings. > > Today (midnight, Friday, 4/4/97) is the deadline for submissions and changes > for this version of the member list. Greg Please include me on "The List": Mike Sciascia trooper@ptdprolog.net Easton, Pa. areas of interest Make up Handcrafting Wigs and Mustaches costuming esp. fur suits: 3 so far Chewbwcca Werewolf Yeti (under construction) /\/\ike Furry Code ver 1.22 FCeHlac A- C D++m P+++ R+ T+++ RLAT a++ C++ lnou d+ e+ f++ h-- i++ p++ Sms From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Apr 6 01:56:42 1997 From: Spookyfx@aol.com Date: Sun, 6 Apr 1997 05:52:15 -0400 (EDT) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: KATHY"S THEATER MAGIC and the burned out brain cells... Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com In a message dated 97-04-05 21:43:40 EST, you write: <> ------------------------------------------------- Isn’t it a wonderful feeling to create an effect with ingenuity instead of money! Cant always be done in the time you need it, but it happens often enough to be worth the try! Your creative application of my idea resulted in you saving some BIG\bucks. Good job to you both! Yours ghouly Jerry - @ --'---,--',---@ --'---,--',---@ --'---,--',---@ --'---,--',---@ ^v^ Esoteric Toys ^v^ (Creative, Not expensive solutions in special effects.) Web page: http://members.aol.com/Spookyfx/index.html @ --'---,--',---@ --'---,--',---@ --'---,--',---@ --'---,--',---@ From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Apr 6 03:00:23 1997 From: Spookyfx@aol.com Date: Sun, 6 Apr 1997 05:56:19 -0400 (EDT) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Last call for member list [and banter] Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com In a message dated 97-04-06 00:06:45 EST, you write: << Mike Sciascia trooper@ptdprolog.net Easton, Pa. areas of interest Make up Handcrafting Wigs and Mustaches costuming esp. fur suits: 3 so far Chewbwcca Werewolf Yeti (under construction) /\/\ike >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- Could you elaborate on your techniques. Fur and wig construction has been a headache for me. I Have thought about taking taxidermy classes. But such are hard to find in Southern California. jerry From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Apr 6 09:16:36 1997 Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 08:48:54 -0800 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Flaming Skulls - material option Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com OK Ghouls, I love the idea of flaming skulls, but every other post is about safety and fire dangers....I do a lot of ceramic work...So why not make the skull, put a flickering lightbulb in the bottom, and have a skull without the flame....I know it won't look at nice. I wish we could trust kids,and adults to stay where they belong and not touch the props, then we would not have most of these worries!!! Kathy the new kid on the crypt mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Apr 6 09:27:58 1997 Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 09:00:24 -0800 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: [HAL] New Halloween Member Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Well, > The Newest member of the Halloween-l has entered the world: > My daughter, Cassandra, was born on Thursday March 27th. > Are you the lucky ghoul!! And I do so love the name!! You did not plan on the future with this name did you!!! I can see her in 14 years, dressed as a witch with the long flowing hair !!! Congrats Dad!!! Enjoy her while she is young!! they grow so fast!! Kathy the new kid on the crypt mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Apr 6 10:17:17 1997 Date: Sun, 6 Apr 97 15:25:49 UT From: "Richard Gauger" To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re:Rocking Chair Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Gary Engle wanted to know how to make a rocking chair rock by itself. It's fairly easy, just mount a gearmotor (one with a fair amount of torque) to a piece of plywood. The one I used was about 20 RPM, if I remember right. Under load the thing looks about the right speed. To connect to the rocking chair, you must fabricate an arm to connect to the motor shaft which will provide up and down motion instead of rotary motion. This in turn was attached to a linkage consisting of two small spherical ball joints attached to either end of a 10-32 threaded rod. I bought the ball joints from Small Parts, Inc. out of Florida. The linkage attaches to the chair, down by the front rung and is adjustable in height by way of the threaded rod. The amount of up and down motion is adjustable by how long you make arm which connects to the motor itself. I also thought it would be a good idea to fasten two small boards to the plywood next to where the rocker travels to keep the chair from moving out of position and causing everything to get out of alignment. It's kind of hard to describe without a picture, but I hope you get the idea. Rich_Gauger@MSN.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Apr 6 10:22:29 1997 Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 09:50:51 -0800 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: my web page Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com HI Iowa, I have tried several times to get to your page and my computer won't let me...it says there is no entry info???? Could you please send me your URL again...maybe I copied it wrong.. thanks Kathy the new kid on the crypt mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Apr 6 10:26:00 1997 Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 09:53:59 -0800 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Fright Lite Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hey Jim, I like the start of your page!! And the picture of the fright light is not as bad as you make it sound. I have you bookmarked so I can watch you grow. Kathy the new kid on the crypt mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Apr 6 11:19:42 1997 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: bdosfx@wimsey.com (Brian D. Oberquell) Subject: Tri-Ess website-don't bother Date: Sun, 6 Apr 1997 11:18:02 -0700 Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com >> Tri-Ess Sciences now has a website: >> >> http://www.4dreamland.com/tri-ess.html > >I just checked it out, and it is a brief list of products and a contact >address. The catalog is $5.00 >-- >Brian Wesley Rich Yeah, I noticed; not really worth the price of admission; that'll teach me to recommend a website before I check it out! I hope they plan on expanding it in the future... BTW, their e-mail address is: TRI-ESS@worldnet.att.net And if you want to order a catalog, be sure and request the special effects catalog so you don't get the regular one... Brian ______________________________________________________________________________ Brian D. Oberquell The Wizard's Den SPFX Studio 210 Cornell Way Port Moody, B.C. CANADA V3H 3W2 Phone (604) 931-6298 Pager (604) 895-3721 Website: http://www.wp.com/FXWizard/ From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Apr 6 11:19:43 1997 Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 11:27:50 -0700 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Iowa Chapman Subject: Re: my web page Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 09:50 AM 4/5/97 -0800, you wrote: >HI Iowa, > I have tried several times to get to your page and my computer won't >let me...it says there is no entry info???? Could you please send me >your URL again...maybe I copied it wrong.. >thanks >Kathy >the new kid on the crypt >mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com > http://www.best.com/~iowac/ it will be hopefully by the end of the week http://www.kustomscares.com :) From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Apr 6 11:47:23 1997 Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 11:53:07 -0700 From: Wil To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: KATHY"S THEATER MAGIC and the burned out brain cells... Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Michael Marcrum wrote: > > Jerry, > Well we took a small TV and our transfer projector. We opened up the > projector and set the small TV in close to the mirror. Then we hung a > white screen on the wall. We hooked the VCR up to the TV and played the > movie. It showed on the TV, reflected on the mirror, and projected > through the lens and onto the wall!! Instant projector!! We are working > on the little details but we do have a great start. > Kathy > the new kid on the crypt > mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com Kathy, all your talk about movies gave me the notion for something similar. I thought how cool it would be on the approach to our door that there was an old black + white tv on the ground, askew, playing some old horror movie. So I went to the flea markets yesterday and today and bought a 13" B&W tv, and a VCR for a total of $55.00. They work great together, so the effect is there as soon as I get an old movie video. Pretty cool. And I wouldn't have had the idea without your input! However, now that I have this, I'm wondering how difficult it would be to set up this mirror / projector idea for projecting a large picture on our garage door. I was impressed with this idea. Can you tell me how well this works, and what type of a projector you wound up using? Thanks! Wil -- X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X Rest in Peace Death Lord http://www.silcom.com/~crafters/haloween.htm X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Apr 6 11:53:23 1997 Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 11:59:05 -0700 From: Wil To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: It's ready and I need some marching orders... Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Greg Hope wrote: > > ----Should our member list simply be on the web, instead of an email > attachment, should it be both or should it not be on the web? > > ----If we have our member list on the web, should it be password protected? > I list my vote as password protected IF on the web at all. Perhpas leaving this as email only wouldn't be a bad idea. -- X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X Rest in Peace Death Lord http://www.silcom.com/~crafters/haloween.htm X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Apr 6 13:15:00 1997 Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 13:20:21 -0700 From: Wil To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Rocking Chair Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Richard Gauger wrote: > > Gary Engle wanted to know how to make a rocking chair rock by itself. It's > to describe without a picture, but I hope you get the idea. > Rich_Gauger@MSN.com I can't. Can you show us a photo or other? -- X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X Rest in Peace Death Lord http://www.silcom.com/~crafters/haloween.htm X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Apr 6 13:25:17 1997 From: ZTBJAZZ@aol.com Date: Sun, 6 Apr 1997 16:23:01 -0400 (EDT) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: It's ready and I need some marching orders... Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com I list my vote that it should be password protected as well Zach From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Apr 6 13:34:11 1997 From: Spookyfx@aol.com Date: Sun, 6 Apr 1997 16:32:28 -0400 (EDT) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Rocking Chair Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com In a message dated 97-04-06 13:11:51 EDT, you write: << ball joints attached to either end of a 10-32 threaded rod. I bought the ball joints from Small Parts, Inc. out of Florida. The linkage attaches to the chair, down by the front rung and is adjustable in height by way of the threaded rod. The amount >> ----------------------------------------------------- Small Parts (sounds fun) please send me the phone number of this place so I can call for a catalog... thanks jerry From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Apr 6 13:46:42 1997 From: Spookyfx@aol.com Date: Sun, 6 Apr 1997 16:39:52 -0400 (EDT) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Flaming Skulls - material option Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com In a message dated 97-04-06 12:17:32 EDT, you write: << K Ghouls, I love the idea of flaming skulls, but every other post is about safety and fire dangers....I do a lot of ceramic work...So why not make the skull, put a flickering lightbulb in the bottom, and have a skull without the flame....I know it won't look at nice. I wish we could trust kids,and adults to stay where they belong and not touch the props, then we would not have most of these worries!!! Kathy the new kid on the crypt mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com ----------------------------------------------------- Actually there are MANY ways to simulate flames. The easiest is to use a flickering light (radioshak carries small flashing colored lights that when grouped in a combination of 3 yellow 1 red produce a very good/cheap fire light effect.) and a smoke source such as a fogger. As the fog gently rolls out (you must control the amount) the light refracts in the smoke. Yours ghouly Jerry - @ --'---,--',---@ --'---,--',---@ --'---,--',---@ --'---,--',---@ ^v^ Esoteric Toys ^v^ (Creative, Not expensive solutions in special effects.) Web page: http://members.aol.com/Spookyfx/index.html @ --'---,--',---@ --'---,--',---@ --'---,--',---@ --'---,--',---@ From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Apr 6 13:53:36 1997 Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 13:46:49 -0700 From: david c schwend To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: KATHY"S THEATER MAGIC and the burned out brain cells... Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com We had a room, two years ago, in the Oneonta Haunted House, that featured shelves lined with old TV sets. All were showing either old black and white monster movies, or plain old snow and hash. The audio coming from all those TV's was pretty disorienting. (We used 6 VCRs running simultaneously, each feeding several TVs, to create the kaos.) At the San Diego Campus Life "Scream in the Dark" Haunted Houses, we used old monster movies as entertainment for the crowds waiting in line. Occasionally, we would turn the sound off and a very creative individual, Craig McNair Wilson, would provide all the voices and sound effects instead. The last reel of the "Curse of the Mummy's Tomb" became "The Kleenex Monster" in 1974, and "The Son of the Blob" became "Jello 1975" a year later. Craig has since been involved with several theatre groups, Disney World, and Disney Imagineering. Last I heard from him he was in the San Francisco area working as a consultant teaching creative thinking techniques. From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Apr 6 14:35:52 1997 Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 17:04:30 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: "John P. Jeffries" Subject: Re: KATHY"S THEATER MAGIC and the burned out brain cells... Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 01:46 PM 4/6/97 -0700, you wrote: >We had a room, two years ago, in the Oneonta Haunted House, that >featured shelves lined with old TV sets. All were showing either old >black and white monster movies, or plain old snow and hash. The audio >coming from all those TV's was pretty disorienting. (We used 6 VCRs >running simultaneously, each feeding several TVs, to create the kaos.) Here's one some can relate to ;D (Monster in front of bashed up T.V showing nothing but snow...) "Uhhh, I want my MTV, I want my MTV"... John ********************************* * Mr.Scary Productions * * http://www.mrscary.com * * E-mail: mrscary@kiva.net * * 1-812-824-8935 * * FAX: 1-812-824-9960 * ********************************* From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Apr 6 14:48:27 1997 Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 17:15:31 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: "John P. Jeffries" Subject: Re: Rocking Chair Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 04:32 PM 4/6/97 -0400, you wrote: >In a message dated 97-04-06 13:11:51 EDT, you write: > ><< ball joints attached to either end > of a 10-32 threaded rod. I bought the ball joints from Small Parts, Inc. Parts like this can also be located at many hardware/variety stores. If they stock the 10-32 rod, ask for ball-joint rod ends, they should have them. Farm equipment stores would be another place to look. John ********************************* * Mr.Scary Productions * * http://www.mrscary.com * * E-mail: mrscary@kiva.net * * 1-812-824-8935 * * FAX: 1-812-824-9960 * ********************************* From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Apr 6 15:10:49 1997 Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 18:01:45 -0400 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Jim Kadel Subject: Possible Password Protection of List Members Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com >I list my vote that it should be password protected as well > >Zach All, I have already Emailed this thought to Greg: Suppose that your "password" is simply your Halloween-L Email address, and by entering it the system would search the List to be certain that you ARE a member before releasing List info? ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 0000,0000,8080 Jim Kadel (jimk@rica.net) ffff,0000,0000 Haunt Master Products, Inc 0000,0000,ffffhttp://members.aol.com/hmpi |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Apr 6 15:20:29 1997 Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 15:21:24 -0700 From: Wil To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: KATHY"S THEATER MAGIC and the burned out brain cells... Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com david c schwend wrote: > > We had a room, two years ago, in the Oneonta Haunted House, that > featured shelves lined with old TV sets. All were showing either old > black and white monster movies, or plain old snow and hash. The audio > coming from all those TV's was pretty disorienting. (We used 6 VCRs > running simultaneously, each feeding several TVs, to create the kaos.) Very nice. I hadn't seen it used before, but I haven't been around the Halloween world for much more than 1 year. I like the idea of perhaps projecting the picture large on the garage door for those waiting in line to see what's in my "Living Dead cave"(the walk leading to my door which will be enclosed for the most part). -- X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X Rest in Peace Death Lord http://www.silcom.com/~crafters/haloween.htm X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Apr 6 16:04:32 1997 From: htraver@dreamsys.com Date: Sun, 6 Apr 1997 15:00:06 -0700 Subject: Re: KATHY"S THEATER MAGIC and the burned out brain To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com The closest bit of old movie playing was one I remember Knotts using for their Baits Motel haunted house where they used a projection TV to a screen on top of the building playing the movie. I still bust up over one of the ushers "Move along! it's not that great a movie anyways! If you want to see the whole thing, rent it from your local video store!" Harry [ Sent From: Dreamscape Systems - dreamsys.com ] [ Location: Van Nuys, CA - (818) 781-7529 ] From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Apr 6 16:06:39 1997 Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 15:03:45 -0700 From: Greenrey To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Possible Password Protection of List Members Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Jim Kadel wrote: > I have already Emailed this thought to Greg: > Suppose that your "password" is simply your Halloween-L Email > address, and by entering it the system would search the List > to be certain that you ARE a member before releasing List info? So, supposing some weirdo actually takes an interest in this list, subscribes for a month, does a "who" command to get all of your email addresses, and then simply uses YOUR email address to gain access to the list - doesn't that entirely eliminate the usefullness of a password? In my opinion, if there is a password (and yes, I think it should be on the web), it should merely be emailed by Greg to those who are participants on the member list (id est, the password should not be posted to the forum at large.) Kevan (Aaron, Greenrey, whatever...) -- "When in danger or in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout." --Robert Heinlein greenrey@worldnet.att.net -or- awynnhi@kes.miracosta.cc.ca.us Visit Greenrey's Study at: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1982/ From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Apr 6 16:59:26 1997 Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 19:27:13 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: "John P. Jeffries" Subject: Making new look old...(furniture) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Here's a question for the furniture guy at large: (Wil) Many of us like to tinker and build our household props (i.e. coffins). In simple terms, I've seen a bazillion ways to make pine wood look old or faux antiquing. Some I have tried, some I have not. I'll be glad to share what I remember, maybe you could elaborate with more useful tips. Step one, (After spending hours constructing your piece.) Distress the wood. Using chains, ice-picks (termite holes) hatchets and whatever, give it a good thrashing and nick up the edges. (Close the door and tell the spouse your just [venting] :) 2) Sand everything back to a semi-smooth surface. Remove all the splinters and sharp edges. Here is where I have heard the many ways to "finish" it off. 3) -Using LYE, (careful, wear protection) coat the piece. (Works great on pine wood). The LYE will "age" the pine color. Wipe it all down once done w/clean water. -Make a cup of coffee, not to drink, but use the grounds and rub into all the deep depressions real good and then over (lightly) the rest. -Stain the piece with a walnut or cherry finish. Rub-out to desired color. --Ok, granted I'm no biggie on wood-finishing, but from the last piece I did, it worked out OK...(Darkness and dirt help out too:) The basic idea is to make the piece look old, in other words, speed up the abuse that would normally take 50 years...Some people char the wood, some use coffee, some use wood stain...Question is, has someone done a similar project with good results?? Many say there is no "wrong" way to do it...Beating up a helpless piece of wood does wonders for the nerves.. :) John ********************************* * Mr.Scary Productions * * http://www.mrscary.com * * E-mail: mrscary@kiva.net * * 1-812-824-8935 * * FAX: 1-812-824-9960 * ********************************* From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Apr 6 17:19:07 1997 Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 16:52:20 -0800 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: my web page Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hey Iowa, I like the title. The skulls peeping through the orange is great!! did you make that??? If so...will you tell me the secret!! Doing good!! Kathy the new kid on the crypt mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Apr 6 17:24:42 1997 Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 16:58:23 -0800 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: KATHY"S THEATER MAGIC and the burned out brain cells... Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Wil, Here is what we are using...Design Master Projector. We got this to copy artwork for painting backgrounds. The same sort of thing can be purchased at craft and hobby stores. The main thing to make it work is the brightness of the TV screen/monitor!! Images with high contrast work the best. We played with it for hours yesterday and we did pretty well. We used a white photobackdrop that I have from my studio and projected the image on that...worked well, not great yet...we are still working on it. I know micheal's has the hobbby projectors that you sit on a pattern and it projects it on the wall. They are fairly cheap and would work as long as the screen/monitor were bright enough. Hope this helps. The area that we got the best and sharpest projection from was about 4'x4'...so to make it look bigger I am going to sew some heavy drapes like the old thearters used to have around the sides and at the top. This will give the whole thing a bigger feeling. Kathy the new kid on the crypt mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Apr 6 17:42:49 1997 Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 17:15:26 -0800 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: KATHY"S THEATER MAGIC and the burned out brain Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Harry, We have been working on the banter that the ushers are going to use. I am making them the old 40's style theater costumes, with the little hats. They will carry flashlights and the whole thing. We were thinking of doing a line of chat like..." In tonights theater we will be prestenting the following movies" and as they say the names they enter the room with the different monsters...when someone screams they will be asked to keep it down others are tying to watch the film... Kathy the new kid on the crypt mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Apr 6 17:44:07 1997 Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 17:18:17 -0800 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: KATHY"S THEATER MAGIC and the burned out brain cells... Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hey Ghouls, Something we were thinking about is putting a large TV in one of the walls of the haunt and have the video camera set up somewhere else in the haunt. The scene that the camera would be taping would show on the other screen....so people couldn't see all that was happening, but just enough to make them worry about what was coming...!! Kathy the new kid on the crypt mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Apr 6 17:54:06 1997 Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 17:59:29 -0700 From: Wil To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Making new look old...(furniture) Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com John P. Jeffries wrote: > > Here's a question for the furniture guy at large: (Wil) > > Many of us like to tinker and build our household props (i.e. coffins). > > In simple terms, I've seen a bazillion ways to make pine wood look old or > faux antiquing. What you described is a terriffic (sp?) way to simulate an old, dug up coffin. In fact, I might even put fresh dirt hanging off corners of it and in the cracks, just to bring the idea home. I use tools that enable me to make my props have a new look nearly as easily as an old, haggard look. Therefore I am planning on making a full-blown casket like you'd buy for your Aunt Elma, with ruffled lining and a high-lustre finish.(In fact, this may sound freaked, but if I do it right, I may request to be buried in the thing--That is SICK, isn't it! Might as well dig my own hole too. Maybe in the back yard...) I think it would give the entire event a startlingly eerie and real effect to do this. But if I were going for the distressed look, I would myself follow your advice by using the coffee grounds and such. Good tips. Now I better get started on that coffin. Ya never know when ya gonna be byin' it! :~0 X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X Rest in Peace Death Lord http://www.silcom.com/~crafters/haloween.htm X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Apr 6 18:16:26 1997 Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 20:16:22 -0500 From: Gertrude Smith To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: KATHY"S THEATER MAGIC and the burned out brain Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com htraver@dreamsys.com wrote: > > The closest bit of old movie playing was one I remember Knotts using for > their Baits Motel haunted house where they used a projection TV to a > screen on top of the building playing the movie. I still bust up over > one of the ushers "Move along! it's not that great a movie anyways! If > you want to see the whole thing, rent it from your local video store!" > > Harry > > [ Sent From: Dreamscape Systems - dreamsys.com ] > [ Location: Van Nuys, CA - (818) 781-7529 ] Goes to show that your guides, ghost hosts, etc. can make or break a HH. And if you're just doing a scare in your front yard, a whole lot of atmosphere can be made with patter, even if you're lacking in the financial or mecha departments. The power of suggestion goes a long way, especially with the younger visitors! Too bad they detour around my house 3 months AFTER Halloween heading for the school bus stop at the corner! The Redneck Raptor From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Apr 6 18:27:19 1997 Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 18:32:40 -0700 From: Wil To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: KATHY"S THEATER MAGIC and the burned out brain cells... Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Michael Marcrum wrote: > > Wil, > Here is what we are using...Design Master Projector. We got this to > copy artwork for painting backgrounds. The same sort of thing can be > purchased at craft and hobby stores. The main thing to make it work is > the brightness of the TV screen/monitor!! Images with high contrast work > the best. We played with it for hours yesterday and we did pretty well. > We used a white photobackdrop that I have from my studio and projected > the image on that...worked well, not great yet...we are still working on > it. > I know micheal's has the hobbby projectors that you sit on a pattern > and it projects it on the wall. They are fairly cheap and would work as > long as the screen/monitor were bright enough. Hope this helps. > The area that we got the best and sharpest projection from was about > 4'x4'...so to make it look bigger I am going to sew some heavy drapes > like the old thearters used to have around the sides and at the top. > This will give the whole thing a bigger feeling. > Kathy > the new kid on the crypt > mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com How fun. The design master--where did you get yours? Used, or new? If new, what did it cost? Also, is the 4' image pretty nice? Thanks. BTW I linked your homepage to my new links page, along with Bobs, and some others' from the list. Hope its okay. Wil -- X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X Rest in Peace Death Lord http://www.silcom.com/~crafters/haloween.htm X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Apr 6 18:50:31 1997 Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 20:50:16 -0500 From: Gertrude Smith To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: KATHY"S THEATER MAGIC and the burned out brain Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Michael Marcrum wrote: > > Harry, > We have been working on the banter that the ushers are going to use. I > am making them the old 40's style theater costumes, with the little > hats. They will carry flashlights and the whole thing. We were thinking > of doing a line of chat like..." In tonights theater we will be > prestenting the following movies" and as they say the names they enter > the room with the different monsters...when someone screams they will be > asked to keep it down others are tying to watch the film... > Kathy > the new kid on the crypt > mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com NEATO! Are any of the ushers going to get done in by the "stars?" We did a coffin room where the vampire kills the guide, leaving the guests on their own for a minute or so before the "hero" professor runs in thru a side entrance and "stakes" the vampire. "I've been searching for him all night! Thanks for helping me find this fiend! Now if you'll follow me, we'll try to escape this horrible place." He guides them out to the hall of mummy cases and is strangled by the "corpse" in the open one who was real still until he starts making his move. Of course the guests are trying to warn the professor but he's rambling on about the curse of Ramses with his back to the case...Oh, well... This is a real roller-coaster ride for the guests, having two guides drop out. The rest of the route was self-guiding, with the monsters scaring the guests in the right direction and the group couldn't get separated. Gertrude Smith gsraptor@arkansas.net From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Apr 6 18:55:01 1997 Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 20:54:49 -0500 From: Gertrude Smith To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: KATHY"S THEATER MAGIC and the burned out brain cells... Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Michael Marcrum wrote: > > Hey Ghouls, > Something we were thinking about is putting a large TV in one of the > walls of the haunt and have the video camera set up somewhere else in > the haunt. The scene that the camera would be taping would show on the > other screen....so people couldn't see all that was happening, but just > enough to make them worry about what was coming...!! > Kathy > the new kid on the crypt > mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com Speakers also come in handy (even small cheap ones), sending the screams and sound effects from other rooms. Try piping the inside screams to your entrance for a little "free advertising"! From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Apr 6 19:46:01 1997 Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 21:40:21 -0700 From: Aneurysm To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: Flaming Skulls - material option Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Spookyfx@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 97-04-06 12:17:32 EDT, you write: > > << K Ghouls, > I love the idea of flaming skulls, but every other post is about > safety and fire dangers....I do a lot of ceramic work...So why not make > the skull, put a flickering lightbulb in the bottom, and have a skull > without the flame....I know it won't look at nice. I wish we could trust > kids,and adults to stay where they belong and not touch the props, then > we would not have most of these worries!!! > Kathy > the new kid on the crypt > mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com > ----------------------------------------------------- > > Actually there are MANY ways to simulate flames. > The easiest is to use a flickering light (radioshak carries > small flashing colored lights that when grouped in > a combination of 3 yellow 1 red > produce a very good/cheap fire light effect.) > and a smoke source such as a fogger. > As the fog gently rolls out (you must control > the amount) the light refracts in the smoke. > > Yours ghouly Jerry - I agree that using the light bilbs would be a good "safe" way of doing the effect but that way only the holes in the skull would be illuminated instead of the entire thing engulfed in flames.And I have about six skulls spread out about 10 feet apart and only 2 fog machines,and I have a zillion other places to put those instead of next to a skull a little bigger than a softballl. I understand Kathy's worries ,however in my case the skulls are atop a pillar Id say about 6 1/2 feet of the ground which is a pretty safe distance. Besides its the ultimate anti theft yard prop. Id like to see a kid grab a flaming skull and run with it-heheheheh HAVE A FLAMING DAY!!!!! ~ ~ @ @ ) \_____/ AnEuRySm From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Apr 6 21:13:10 1997 From: BUSH134@aol.com Date: Mon, 7 Apr 1997 00:11:30 -0400 (EDT) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re:haunted house props Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hey everyone, I just wanted to tell you that once I move into my house, I am thinking about starting to make masks, props, prosthetics, animated characters, costumes, ect. ect. to sell to the public. Not really a store, but just to people into Halloween. If anybody everybody ever wants to get a custom mask or prop, but doesn't have the skill or the time to make one, I might be able to help. Of course, half of the fun of doing a yard or a haunt is building everything. I just thought I might want to offer this to anyone who wants it. Mike Also, I need some ideas for my yard. I already know that I want some popping full body corpses form graves and a animated "dead" bride like the one in the Haunted Mansion. I need some more ideas. Think along the line of graveyards, swamps, werewolves, skeletons, live as well as animated characters, limited space. Please tell me your ideas. From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Apr 6 21:27:46 1997 From: htraver@dreamsys.com Date: Sun, 6 Apr 1997 20:23:30 -0700 Subject: Re: KATHY"S THEATER MAGIC and the burned out brain To: halloween-l@netcom.com Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Kathy: I love it! the one thing is to entertain, and a cynical sense of humor that is also off the wall is quite helpful. if you have some truly zany actors, let them ad lib and write up the lines to work with. Keep them laughing and scared at the same time. PS: for those who have seen the Hanging, there is no ad-libbing in it at all..... Harry [ Sent From: Dreamscape Systems - dreamsys.com ] [ Location: Van Nuys, CA - (818) 781-7529 ] From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Apr 6 21:33:53 1997 Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 23:28:21 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Ysengrin Werewolf Subject: Re: KATHY"S THEATER MAGIC and the burned out brain cells... Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 05:18 PM 4/5/97 -0800, kathy wrote: >Hey Ghouls, > Something we were thinking about is putting a large TV in one of the >walls of the haunt and have the video camera set up somewhere else in >the haunt. The scene that the camera would be taping would show on the >other screen....so people couldn't see all that was happening, but just >enough to make them worry about what was coming...!! Lance was doing that at the old location in Arlington (Verdun-o-Vision), with the TV being for those waiting outside; it was good for keeping the guests entertained and just a bit edgy. Just be careful not to show _what_ the scare is, or enough of the scene for it to be recognized. Hiding the camera in the ceiling, and pointing backwards to the path, seemed to work best, as did B&W instead of color. Make sure you have the standard "Your image may be used . . ." disclaimer on the ticket backs and/or posted. If nothing else, you get some good highlights footage for the cast party. We kept threatening to put it back in after we moved, but ran out of time (or space) every year. The new lower-light cameras will be a lot easier to work with, too. Hope this helps. Ysengrin Werewolf (aka Silvermane) Member Verdun Manor pack http://www.webcom.com/verdun/verdun.html From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Apr 6 21:34:52 1997 Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 23:28:23 -0500 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Ysengrin Werewolf Subject: Re:hi Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 03:19 PM 4/3/97 UT, Rich Gauger wrote: > . . .The control of >the servos is done by one of Effective Engineering's controllers. I love those - we use 'em on all sorts of animations when we use servos. We just got through using them in a walk-about costume; try a web search for CF8 and Mufasa to find pix of it. I want to go back and retrofit all our 'fresh' corpses and decapiated heads with his look-alives so the eyes move . . . it's just a bit pricy to do so. We use PC's and relay-driver cards for running complex pneumatic animations; the simpler ones are run off of several cams on a single motor with microswitches. Ysengrin Werewolf (aka Silvermane) Member Verdun Manor pack http://www.webcom.com/verdun/verdun.html From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Apr 6 22:59:15 1997 Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 22:32:52 -0800 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: KATHY"S THEATER MAGIC and the burned out brain cells... Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Wil, No problem with linking my page! I consider it a honor. As for the projector a friend of ours gave it to me as a thank you gift for making his kids halloween costumes for two years. I think he purchased it from the wood workers book. Kathy the new kid on the crypt mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Apr 6 23:02:02 1997 Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 22:35:24 -0800 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: KATHY"S THEATER MAGIC and the burned out brain Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Hi Gertrude, We are thinking about having the werewolf at the end ripping the ushers throat open, and a door opening to the outside about the same time. Run them out screaming!! Kathy the new kid on the crypt mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Sun Apr 6 23:06:09 1997 Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 22:39:54 -0800 From: Michael Marcrum To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: KATHY"S THEATER MAGIC and the burned out brain cells... Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com Ysengrin Werewolf, thanks for the note on the movie idea. We don't charge, so the tickets will only be for us to keep count. And we will make sure to set them up so the faces don't show. Kathy the new kid on the crypt mmarcrum@ix.netcom.com From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Apr 7 00:46:43 1997 From: Spookyfx@aol.com Date: Mon, 7 Apr 1997 03:44:45 -0400 (EDT) To: halloween-l@netcom.com Subject: Re: KATHY"S THEATER MAGIC and the burned out brain cells... Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com In a message dated 97-04-06 16:54:10 EDT, you write: << At the San Diego Campus Life "Scream in the Dark" Haunted Houses, we used old monster movies as entertainment for the crowds waiting in line. Occasionally, we would turn the sound off and a very creative individual, Craig McNair Wilson, would provide all the voices and sound effects i >> ------------------------------------------ Why is using movies in this way legal but using music is a copyright infringement. Or is video taped movies NOT legal to use? jerry From owner-halloween-l@majordomo.netcom.com Mon Apr 7 02:45:19 1997 Date: Mon, 07 Apr 1997 02:50:44 -0700 To: halloween-l@netcom.com From: Iowa Chapman Subject: Re: Rocking Chair Reply-To: halloween-l@netcom.com At 05:15 PM 4/6/97 -0500, you wrote: >At 04:32 PM 4/6/97 -0400, you wrote: >>In a message dated 97-04-06 13:11:51 EDT, you write: >> >><< ball joints attached to either end >> of a 10-32 threaded rod. I bought the ball joints from Small Parts, Inc. > Im going to try to draw a picture on how i think someone could do a rocking wheelchair.. should be very very very simple... I just thought of this..